Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

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Dear Deepak ji,

 

Okay Now I understood what you are trying to say. You have got me

confused uptil now completely and I did not re-question you for the fear

that every one will jump at me that Bhaskar is arguing with everyone.

 

You are talking of aspect-dhristhti actually. And square aspect. But

this square aspect is only for 1 planet in Hindu astrology. Which is

Mars. In Western this would be applicable though. Another point is if we

consider Rahu's all aspects then it is 5, 7 and 9. And suppose Mars is

conjunct with Rahu then 4 and 8 too will be aspected by Rahu. otherwise

not. Same with Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Saturn conjunct Rahu. But these

are for 100% aspects. If you consider 3/4th aspect which actually hindu

astrology considers too, then many other houses get to be aspected by

almost all planets.

 

I have not read the latter parts of your mail, so not commenting on

same.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech wrote:

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> Dear Gopu Ji,

> Â

> Thanks ton for your kind reply and putting a queries on this analysis.

> Reposting below my earlier mail in Italics -Â

____

> Â Below is my opinion about Rahu in 10th -

> Rahu in tenth makes the native ambitous. If the degree of rahu is

> close to the degree of Ascendant, then native may use unethical

> practices for professional upliftment. Such person is a liar.

> ___________

> Â

> Now you provided the below data †"

> 20th October 1960, 10:08 AM, Dharwar (Karnataka)

> ·        This gives Scorpio

Ascendant. The Ascendant degree is 24.14.

> ·        Degree of Rahu in tenth is

21.26

> ·        Hence, the degree of rahu

is close to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees)

> ·        So, I said native used

unethical practices for professional upliftment in this case based on my

earlier comment.

> ·        The above statement is well

supported by the debilitation and bad placement of Sun in 12th house.

Sun, being dispositor of rahu here.

> ·        Reason for not getting job

since long is the weak Sun ruling house of profession (10th) and also a

signficator for Employment. Jupiter in this case is strong - ruling &

placed in the house of status (2nd) + aspecting the house of profession

(10th).Â

> ·        As Sun is also the

significator for Medical Profession, so downfall in this field is well

indicated.

> ·        You rightly said that rahu

in 10th for Scorpio ascendant would also act like Sun. But power of Sun

is to be observed in the Chart and the general good qualities of Lord

Surya which is highly disciplined can not be applied to the charts where

Sun is so much weak.

>

> You are most welcomed to post any further doubt or query.

> Â

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

> --- On Thu, 11/26/09, K Gopu kgopu_24 wrote:

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> K Gopu kgopu_24

> Re: Re: Short or tall person ?

12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

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> Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:13 PM

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Dear sri deepak sharma,

> U state that rahu in the 10th house will be closer to the ascendant.

It is bit confusing

> because Rahu in 12th, lagna, 2nd house are much closer to lagna than

rahu in

> 10th house. Moreover Rahu can act like its dispositor. So for scorpio

lagna,

> rahu in the 10th can give the qualities of sun. Lord surya is highly

discplined

> so where is the question of rahu in leo for a scorpio lagna to make

him

> resort to  unethical practices in the profession. So what u state

may not apply

> verbatim.

> Â

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chiranjiv ji,

 

// Forget about robbing somebody, i do not even deal with people who i

suspect of robbing.//

 

Good one. This made me smile and laugh (You know in Bombay we dont laugh

loud, we laugh sophisticatedly - a silent laugh)

 

I was reading a book and your other statement about a Mafia Don made me

remember something from that book. (Just like it is in rare cases that

Dons are born. ) In same way the author of this book suggests that those

who commit suicides must not be considered as cowards because they have

guts to die, and how many have the guts to die in this world. It is just

that they are unable to co-relate with the troubles, circumstances and

people around them which were all not favourable, and since cannot

reverse the troubles, or change the people or circumstances, they choose

to die. (These words were not written exactly as I mentioned them but

meaning same).

 

Anyways....

 

Luv n regards,

 

bhaskar.

 

 

, chiranjiv mehta

<vchiranjiv wrote:

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> When Rahu is in 10th house, Ketu is in 4th house. So the question of

being too greedy is checked by Ketu.

> Yes Rahu is expansive - thus it is said he wants more.

> Rahu has a tendency so does Ketu. But all others also have tendency.

> All when looking at the same direction will create these typical

results of --- Rahu in 10th house being Mafia Don.

> After all when God gives ability, he rarely gives intent to the same

person. It is in rare cases that Dons are born.

> I speak from experience. I have Rahu in 10th and Ketu in 4th.

> Forget about robbing somebody, i do not even deal with people who i

suspect of robbing.

> Â

> Thanks & Regards

>

> Chiranjiv Mehta

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> --- On Wed, 25/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

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> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Short or tall person ? 12th

lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

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> Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 5:50 PM

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> Dear Deepak ji,

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> My ascendant is Leo 15 degrees and Rahu is in Leo 6 degrees. is this

known as being close? But I have never till date used any unethical

practises for professional upliftments and hate lying.

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> regards/Bhaskar.

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> ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

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> > Dear Rajesh Ji,

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> > Below is my opinion about Rahu in 10th -

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> > Rahu in tenth makes the native ambitous. If the degree of rahu is

> > close to the degree of Ascendant, then native may use unethical

> > practices for professional upliftment. Such person is a liar.

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> > Best Regards,

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> > Deepak Sharma

> > --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Dreams Unlimiteds <dreams_unlimiteds@ ...>

wrote:

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> > Dreams Unlimiteds <dreams_unlimiteds@ ...>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ?

12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

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> > contribute my bit, as a person with rahu in 10th house, I must say

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> > my personality is quite contrary to what BV Raman ji said. I am

> > certainly not a power hungry person, yes I do aspire to do well in

life

> > and career but am sure since BV Raman ji have mentioned " power

hungry "

> > he must have meant in some kinda hunger of power, which is beyond

> > normal. In fact, on the contrary I am someone who prefer a more

success

> > and happiness in personal life than professional life.ÂÂ

> > And yes, I have a Jupiter in my first house (Kumbh lagna). and my

height is 5 feet 8 inches.ÂÂ

> > thanks & regardsrajeshÂÂ

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> > --- On Wed, 11/25/09, sivagnanalingam

> > <sarasalai_siva@ hotmail.com> wrote:

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> > sivagnanalingam <sarasalai_siva@ hotmail.com>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ? 12th

lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 2:33 PM

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> > || Jaya Jagannatha ||

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> > When rahu in the 10 H native is too power hungry . (In BV Raman

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> > When unafflicted Rahu as chara AK , native will become as Sanyasi

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type con.( PVR ).

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> > Per KP when rahu comes as lagna cuspsal sub lord , then native will

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> > IN Sanjay Rath's chart, Rahu in the 4 H- mercurian gemini.

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[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

End numbers of re-questions are welcomed from your side.

 

But I did not talk about aspect or drishti in the below horoscope provided by Gopu Ji.

 

After your mail, I checked couple of times if I’ve used any confusing / ambiguous words or statements. However I did not notice any.

 

Hence, I request you to spare couple of valuable minutes and go through the mail again. The point I tried to convey is so simple and reliable too.

 

Adding a bit about third point in the mail -

Hence, the degree of rahu placed in the tenth house is close to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees). Difference of 24.14 degree (Ascendant Degree) and 21.26 degree (Rahu Degree) is 2.88 degree. Please note – No aspect is considered here.

Degree of Ascendant is taken as the most effective point of influence for all houses. So, effective point of 10th house is 24.14 degrees and Rahu is at a difference of 2.88 degrees from the effective point of tenth house. Such an influence is close one.

 

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:09 PM

Dear Deepak ji,Okay Now I understood what you are trying to say. You have got meconfused uptil now completely and I did not re-question you for the fearthat every one will jump at me that Bhaskar is arguing with everyone.You are talking of aspect-dhristhti actually. And square aspect. Butthis square aspect is only for 1 planet in Hindu astrology. Which isMars. In Western this would be applicable though. Another point is if weconsider Rahu's all aspects then it is 5, 7 and 9. And suppose Mars isconjunct with Rahu then 4 and 8 too will be aspected by Rahu. otherwisenot. Same with Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Saturn conjunct Rahu. But theseare for 100% aspects. If you consider 3/4th aspect which actually hinduastrology considers too, then many other houses get to be aspected byalmost all planets.I have not read the latter parts of your mail, so not commenting

onsame.regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma<deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Gopu Ji,> Â> Thanks ton for your kind reply and putting a queries on this analysis.> Reposting below my earlier mail in Italics -Â ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______> Â Below is my opinion about Rahu in 10th -> Rahu in tenth makes the native ambitous. If the degree of rahu is> close to the degree of Ascendant, then native may use unethical> practices for professional upliftment. Such person is a liar.> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Â> Now you provided the below data

â€"> 20th October 1960, 10:08 AM, Dharwar (Karnataka)> ·        This gives ScorpioAscendant. The Ascendant degree is 24.14.> ·        Degree of Rahu in tenth is21.26> ·        Hence, the degree of rahuis close to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees)> ·        So, I said native usedunethical practices for professional upliftment in this case based on myearlier comment.> ·        The above statement is wellsupported by the debilitation and bad placement of Sun in 12th house.Sun, being dispositor of rahu here.> ·        Reason for not getting jobsince long is the weak Sun ruling house of profession (10th) and also asignficator for Employment. Jupiter in this case is strong - ruling & placed in the house of status (2nd) + aspecting the house

of profession(10th).Â> ·        As Sun is also thesignificator for Medical Profession, so downfall in this field is wellindicated.> ·        You rightly said that rahuin 10th for Scorpio ascendant would also act like Sun. But power of Sunis to be observed in the Chart and the general good qualities of LordSurya which is highly disciplined can not be applied to the charts whereSun is so much weak.>> You are most welcomed to post any further doubt or query.> Â> Best Regards,> Deepak Sharma> --- On Thu, 11/26/09, K Gopu kgopu_24 wrote:>>> K Gopu kgopu_24 Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ?12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:13 PM>>> Â>>>>>>>>> Dear sri deepak sharma,> U state that rahu in the 10th house will be closer to the ascendant.It is bit confusing> because Rahu in 12th, lagna, 2nd house are much closer to lagna thanrahu in> 10th house. Moreover Rahu can act like its dispositor. So for scorpiolagna,> rahu in the 10th can give the qualities of sun. Lord surya is highlydiscplined> so where is the question of rahu in leo for a scorpio lagna to makehim> resort to  unethical practices in the profession. So what u statemay not apply> verbatim.> Â> regards,>

k.gopu>

[Guest guest]

Dear deepak ji,

 

I am still confused then.

 

I am not yet able to understand if you are not talking of dhristi-

aspect, then hiow can you connect degrees of the ascendant with the

degrees of the planet in the 10th.

 

Please pardon my ignorance. It takes time for me to understand. I have a

combusted and retrograde Mercury alongwith Sun who is aspected by the

Moon, so my buddhi is limited and takes time to open up.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> Â

> End numbers of re-questions are welcomed from your side.

>

> But I did not talk about aspect or drishti in the below horoscope

provided by Gopu Ji.

>

> After your mail, I checked couple of times if I’ve used any

confusing / ambiguous words or statements. However I did not notice any.

>

> Hence, I request you to spare couple of valuable minutes and go

through the mail again. The point I tried to convey is so simple and

reliable too.

> Â

> Adding a bit about third point in the mail -

> Hence, the degree of rahu placed in the tenth house is close

to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees). Difference of 24.14

degree (Ascendant Degree) and 21.26 degree (Rahu Degree) is 2.88 degree.

Please note †" No aspect is considered here.

> Degree of Ascendant is taken as the most effective point of

influence for all houses. So, effective point of 10th house isÂ

24.14 degrees and Rahu is at a difference of 2.88 degrees from the

effective point of tenth house. Such an influence is close one.

> Â

> Best Regards,

> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Deepak

Sharma

>

> --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Short or tall person ? 12th

lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

>

> Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:09 PM

>

>

> Â

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>

> Dear Deepak ji,

>

> Okay Now I understood what you are trying to say. You have got me

> confused uptil now completely and I did not re-question you for the

fear

> that every one will jump at me that Bhaskar is arguing with everyone.

>

> You are talking of aspect-dhristhti actually. And square aspect. But

> this square aspect is only for 1 planet in Hindu astrology. Which is

> Mars. In Western this would be applicable though. Another point is if

we

> consider Rahu's all aspects then it is 5, 7 and 9. And suppose Mars is

> conjunct with Rahu then 4 and 8 too will be aspected by Rahu.

otherwise

> not. Same with Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Saturn conjunct Rahu. But

these

> are for 100% aspects. If you consider 3/4th aspect which actually

hindu

> astrology considers too, then many other houses get to be aspected by

> almost all planets.

>

> I have not read the latter parts of your mail, so not commenting on

> same.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma

> <deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopu Ji,

> > Â

> > Thanks ton for your kind reply and putting a queries on this

analysis.

> > Reposting below my earlier mail in Italics -Â

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______

> > Â Below is my opinion about Rahu in 10th -

> > Rahu in tenth makes the native ambitous. If the degree of rahu is

> > close to the degree of Ascendant, then native may use unethical

> > practices for professional upliftment. Such person is a liar.

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > Â

> > Now you provided the below data †"

> > 20th October 1960, 10:08 AM, Dharwar (Karnataka)

> > ·        This

gives Scorpio

> Ascendant. The Ascendant degree is 24.14.

> > ·        Degree

of Rahu in tenth is

> 21.26

> > ·        Hence,

the degree of rahu

> is close to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees)

> > ·        So, I

said native used

> unethical practices for professional upliftment in this case based on

my

> earlier comment.

> > ·        The

above statement is well

> supported by the debilitation and bad placement of Sun in 12th house.

> Sun, being dispositor of rahu here.

> > ·        Reason

for not getting job

> since long is the weak Sun ruling house of profession (10th) and also

a

> signficator for Employment. Jupiter in this case is strong - ruling &

> placed in the house of status (2nd) + aspecting the house of

profession

> (10th).Â

> > ·        As Sun

is also the

> significator for Medical Profession, so downfall in this field is well

> indicated.

> > ·        You

rightly said that rahu

> in 10th for Scorpio ascendant would also act like Sun. But power of

Sun

> is to be observed in the Chart and the general good qualities of Lord

> Surya which is highly disciplined can not be applied to the charts

where

> Sun is so much weak.

> >

> > You are most welcomed to post any further doubt or query.

> > Â

> > Best Regards,

> > Deepak Sharma

> > --- On Thu, 11/26/09, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > K Gopu kgopu_24@

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ?

> 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:13 PM

> >

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> > Dear sri deepak sharma,

> > U state that rahu in the 10th house will be closer to the ascendant.

> It is bit confusing

> > because Rahu in 12th, lagna, 2nd house are much closer to lagna than

> rahu in

> > 10th house. Moreover Rahu can act like its dispositor. So for

scorpio

> lagna,

> > rahu in the 10th can give the qualities of sun. Lord surya is highly

> discplined

> > so where is the question of rahu in leo for a scorpio lagna to make

> him

> > resort to  unethical practices in the profession. So what u

state

> may not apply

> > verbatim.

> > Â

> > regards,

> > k.gopu

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

Thanks for your mail again. My pleasure to make you understand.You may or may not be convinced with the concept. But my purpose here is to make you understand what message I'm trying to convey- So, If ascendant degree is 24.14 degree,Then the MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF INFLUENCE of -I house is 24.14 degreesII house is 24.14 degreesIII house is 24.14 degrees.................................X house is 24.14 degrees...........XII house is also 24.14 degrees

Now if the degree of Rahu in tenth house is 21.36 degrees. Then Rahu is 2.78 degrees (24.14-21.36 degrees)away from the MOST EFFECTIVE POINT (24.14 degrees) of tenth house.I hope you've got my message now. If not, you're welcome to revert back.By the way, how can a Leo Ascendant Person with the influence of Lord Surya in his NAME itself can have limited buddhi :-) I'll later check my planetory combinations why the right message could not be conveyed during the first attempt :-)

Best Regards,Deepak Sharma , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear deepak ji,> > I am still confused then.> > I am not yet able to understand if you are not talking of dhristi-> aspect, then hiow can you connect degrees of the ascendant with the> degrees of the planet in the 10th.> > Please pardon my ignorance. It takes time for me to understand. I have a> combusted and retrograde Mercury alongwith Sun who is aspected by the> Moon, so my buddhi is limited and takes time to open up.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > , deepak sharma> deepak_rptech@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > Â> > End numbers of re-questions are welcomed from your side.> >> > But I did not talk about aspect or drishti in the below horoscope> provided by Gopu Ji.> >> > After your mail, I checked couple of times if I’ve used any> confusing / ambiguous words or statements. However I did not notice any.> >> > Hence, I request you to spare couple of valuable minutes and go> through the mail again. The point I tried to convey is so simple and> reliable too.> > Â> > Adding a bit about third point in the mail -> > Hence, the degree of rahu placed in the tenth house is close> to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees). Difference of 24.14> degree (Ascendant Degree) and 21.26 degree (Rahu Degree) is 2.88 degree.> Please note â€" No aspect is considered here.> > Degree of Ascendant is taken as the most effective point of> influence for all houses. So, effective point of 10th house isÂ> 24.14 degrees and Rahu is at a difference of 2.88 degrees from the> effective point of tenth house. Such an influence is close one.> > Â> > Best Regards,> >             Deepak> Sharma> >> > --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re: Short or tall person ? 12th> lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house> > > > Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:09 PM> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> > Dear Deepak ji,> >> > Okay Now I understood what you are trying to say. You have got me> > confused uptil now completely and I did not re-question you for the> fear> > that every one will jump at me that Bhaskar is arguing with everyone.> >> > You are talking of aspect-dhristhti actually. And square aspect. But> > this square aspect is only for 1 planet in Hindu astrology. Which is> > Mars. In Western this would be applicable though. Another point is if> we> > consider Rahu's all aspects then it is 5, 7 and 9. And suppose Mars is> > conjunct with Rahu then 4 and 8 too will be aspected by Rahu.> otherwise> > not. Same with Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Saturn conjunct Rahu. But> these> > are for 100% aspects. If you consider 3/4th aspect which actually> hindu> > astrology considers too, then many other houses get to be aspected by> > almost all planets.> >> > I have not read the latter parts of your mail, so not commenting on> > same.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma> > <deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gopu Ji,> > > Â> > > Thanks ton for your kind reply and putting a queries on this> analysis.> > > Reposting below my earlier mail in Italics -Â> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______> > >  Below is my opinion about Rahu in 10th -> > > Rahu in tenth makes the native ambitous. If the degree of rahu is> > > close to the degree of Ascendant, then native may use unethical> > > practices for professional upliftment. Such person is a liar.> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > Â> > > Now you provided the below data â€"> > > 20th October 1960, 10:08 AM, Dharwar (Karnataka)> > > ·Â        This> gives Scorpio> > Ascendant. The Ascendant degree is 24.14.> > > ·Â        Degree> of Rahu in tenth is> > 21.26> > > ·Â        Hence,> the degree of rahu> > is close to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees)> > > ·Â        So, I> said native used> > unethical practices for professional upliftment in this case based on> my> > earlier comment.> > > ·Â        The> above statement is well> > supported by the debilitation and bad placement of Sun in 12th house.> > Sun, being dispositor of rahu here.> > > ·Â        Reason> for not getting job> > since long is the weak Sun ruling house of profession (10th) and also> a> > signficator for Employment. Jupiter in this case is strong - ruling & > > placed in the house of status (2nd) + aspecting the house of> profession> > (10th).Â> > > ·Â        As Sun> is also the> > significator for Medical Profession, so downfall in this field is well> > indicated.> > > ·Â        You> rightly said that rahu> > in 10th for Scorpio ascendant would also act like Sun. But power of> Sun> > is to be observed in the Chart and the general good qualities of Lord> > Surya which is highly disciplined can not be applied to the charts> where> > Sun is so much weak.> > >> > > You are most welcomed to post any further doubt or query.> > > Â> > > Best Regards,> > > Deepak Sharma> > > --- On Thu, 11/26/09, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > K Gopu kgopu_24@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ?> > 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:13 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear sri deepak sharma,> > > U state that rahu in the 10th house will be closer to the ascendant.> > It is bit confusing> > > because Rahu in 12th, lagna, 2nd house are much closer to lagna than> > rahu in> > > 10th house. Moreover Rahu can act like its dispositor. So for> scorpio> > lagna,> > > rahu in the 10th can give the qualities of sun. Lord surya is highly> > discplined> > > so where is the question of rahu in leo for a scorpio lagna to make> > him> > > resort to  unethical practices in the profession. So what u> state> > may not apply> > > verbatim.> > > Â> > > regards,> > > k.gopu> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Deepak ji,

 

I understood the point in the first mail itself, but was actually asking you the

logic for the derivations, on the why this effect could manifest.

 

Love n regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " deepak " <deepak_rptech

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Thanks for your mail again. My pleasure to make you understand.

> You may or may not be convinced with the concept. But my purpose here is

> to make you understand what message I'm trying to convey-

> So, If ascendant degree is 24.14 degree,

> Then the MOST EFFECTIVE POINT OF INFLUENCE of -

> I house is 24.14 degrees

> II house is 24.14 degrees

> III house is 24.14 degrees

> ...........

> ...........

> ...........

> X house is 24.14 degrees

> ...........

> XII house is also 24.14 degrees

>

> Now if the degree of Rahu in tenth house is 21.36 degrees. Then Rahu is

> 2.78 degrees (24.14-21.36 degrees)away from the MOST EFFECTIVE POINT

> (24.14 degrees) of tenth house.

> I hope you've got my message now. If not, you're welcome to revert back.

> By the way, how can a Leo Ascendant Person with the influence of Lord

> Surya in his NAME itself can have limited buddhi :-) I'll later check my

> planetory combinations why the right message could not be conveyed

> during the first attempt :-)

>

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

> , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear deepak ji,

> >

> > I am still confused then.

> >

> > I am not yet able to understand if you are not talking of dhristi-

> > aspect, then hiow can you connect degrees of the ascendant with the

> > degrees of the planet in the 10th.

> >

> > Please pardon my ignorance. It takes time for me to understand. I have

> a

> > combusted and retrograde Mercury alongwith Sun who is aspected by the

> > Moon, so my buddhi is limited and takes time to open up.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , deepak sharma

> > deepak_rptech@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > Â

> > > End numbers of re-questions are welcomed from your side.

> > >

> > > But I did not talk about aspect or drishti in the below horoscope

> > provided by Gopu Ji.

> > >

> > > After your mail, I checked couple of times if I’ve used any

> > confusing / ambiguous words or statements. However I did not notice

> any.

> > >

> > > Hence, I request you to spare couple of valuable minutes and go

> > through the mail again. The point I tried to convey is so simple and

> > reliable too.

> > > Â

> > > Adding a bit about third point in the mail -

> > > Hence, the degree of rahu placed in the tenth house is close

> > to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees). Difference of 24.14

> > degree (Ascendant Degree) and 21.26 degree (Rahu Degree) is 2.88

> degree.

> > Please note †" No aspect is considered here.

> > > Degree of Ascendant is taken as the most effective point of

> > influence for all houses. So, effective point of 10th house isÂ

> > 24.14 degrees and Rahu is at a difference of 2.88 degrees from the

> > effective point of tenth house. Such an influence is close one.

> > > Â

> > > Best Regards,

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Deepak

> > Sharma

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > Re: Short or tall person ? 12th

> > lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

> > >

> > > Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:09 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Deepak ji,

> > >

> > > Okay Now I understood what you are trying to say. You have got me

> > > confused uptil now completely and I did not re-question you for the

> > fear

> > > that every one will jump at me that Bhaskar is arguing with

> everyone.

> > >

> > > You are talking of aspect-dhristhti actually. And square aspect. But

> > > this square aspect is only for 1 planet in Hindu astrology. Which is

> > > Mars. In Western this would be applicable though. Another point is

> if

> > we

> > > consider Rahu's all aspects then it is 5, 7 and 9. And suppose Mars

> is

> > > conjunct with Rahu then 4 and 8 too will be aspected by Rahu.

> > otherwise

> > > not. Same with Jupiter conjunct Rahu or Saturn conjunct Rahu. But

> > these

> > > are for 100% aspects. If you consider 3/4th aspect which actually

> > hindu

> > > astrology considers too, then many other houses get to be aspected

> by

> > > almost all planets.

> > >

> > > I have not read the latter parts of your mail, so not commenting on

> > > same.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma

> > > <deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopu Ji,

> > > > Â

> > > > Thanks ton for your kind reply and putting a queries on this

> > analysis.

> > > > Reposting below my earlier mail in Italics -Â

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ______

> > > > Â Below is my opinion about Rahu in 10th -

> > > > Rahu in tenth makes the native ambitous. If the degree of rahu is

> > > > close to the degree of Ascendant, then native may use unethical

> > > > practices for professional upliftment. Such person is a liar.

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > Â

> > > > Now you provided the below data †"

> > > > 20th October 1960, 10:08 AM, Dharwar (Karnataka)

> > > > ·        This

> > gives Scorpio

> > > Ascendant. The Ascendant degree is 24.14.

> > > > ·       Â

> Degree

> > of Rahu in tenth is

> > > 21.26

> > > > ·       Â

> Hence,

> > the degree of rahu

> > > is close to the degree of Ascendant (less than 3 degrees)

> > > > ·        So, I

> > said native used

> > > unethical practices for professional upliftment in this case based

> on

> > my

> > > earlier comment.

> > > > ·        The

> > above statement is well

> > > supported by the debilitation and bad placement of Sun in 12th

> house.

> > > Sun, being dispositor of rahu here.

> > > > ·       Â

> Reason

> > for not getting job

> > > since long is the weak Sun ruling house of profession (10th) and

> also

> > a

> > > signficator for Employment. Jupiter in this case is strong - ruling

> &

> > > placed in the house of status (2nd) + aspecting the house of

> > profession

> > > (10th).Â

> > > > ·        As

> Sun

> > is also the

> > > significator for Medical Profession, so downfall in this field is

> well

> > > indicated.

> > > > ·        You

> > rightly said that rahu

> > > in 10th for Scorpio ascendant would also act like Sun. But power of

> > Sun

> > > is to be observed in the Chart and the general good qualities of

> Lord

> > > Surya which is highly disciplined can not be applied to the charts

> > where

> > > Sun is so much weak.

> > > >

> > > > You are most welcomed to post any further doubt or query.

> > > > Â

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > Deepak Sharma

> > > > --- On Thu, 11/26/09, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person

> ?

> > > 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Thursday, November 26, 2009, 4:13 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear sri deepak sharma,

> > > > U state that rahu in the 10th house will be closer to the

> ascendant.

> > > It is bit confusing

> > > > because Rahu in 12th, lagna, 2nd house are much closer to lagna

> than

> > > rahu in

> > > > 10th house. Moreover Rahu can act like its dispositor. So for

> > scorpio

> > > lagna,

> > > > rahu in the 10th can give the qualities of sun. Lord surya is

> highly

> > > discplined

> > > > so where is the question of rahu in leo for a scorpio lagna to

> make

> > > him

> > > > resort to  unethical practices in the profession. So what u

> > state

> > > may not apply

> > > > verbatim.

> > > > Â

> > > > regards,

> > > > k.gopu

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear sudhirji,

The native had a good reaping during Jup mahadasa and once saturn

mahadasa started, the benefits started declining and put him to

lot of hardships. It is basically Jup's aspect of the 10th house which

could see him thro success and saturn being lord of 3rd and 4th

in the 2nd started giving him negative results in professional front

as well as family. His only son had to undergo a major surgery

of the pancreas which costed him a few lakhs. for scorpio lagna

and kanya rasi saturn in 2nd and 4th respectively will be challenging dasa for

the native.

 

regards,

k.gopu--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote:

Sudhir <taurus.sudhir Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:53 PM

 Dear Gopu,

 

His rise in career is due to his Jupiter and Saturn in his 2nd house.

Job related developments is possible during January.

 

Regards

Sudhir

 

 

 

-

K Gopu

ancient_indian_ astrology

Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:58 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

 

 

 

 

 

Dear shri bhaskar and other learned members,

I am giving u the chart details of a native who has rahu in 10th. He went upto the

level of Vice president in a big pharma company and in the year 2006 he was

asked to leave without assigning any reasons. till date he is without a job

and trying for a job without success.

His rahu dasa was over during his education period and it had given him

a good education. He rose to peak during Jupiter dasa and during saturn

mahadasa venus antara and rahu pratyantar (june 2006) he lost his job.

rahu's dispositor sun is debilitated. So rahu can go to the peak and also

drop down with the same speed.

 

DOB; 20th oct 1960

tob 10.08 am

place : Dharwar (karnataka)

 

regards,

k.gopu

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopuji,

I am just a leanrer so please bear with me. His 7th lord in Lagna hence we can

use Dwisaptati Sama dasa (as per BPHS). He started Rahu dasa in nov-2000. As

Rahu is in 12th in Dasamsa, 8th in Navamsa so he should have lost his Job and

kind of retired?

Am I on right path?

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

>

> dear sudhirji,

> The native had a good reaping during Jup mahadasa and once saturn

> mahadasa started, the benefits started declining and put him to

> lot of hardships. It is basically Jup's aspect of the 10th house which

> could see him thro success and saturn being lord of 3rd and 4th

> in the 2nd started giving him negative results in professional front

> as well as family. His only son had to undergo  a major surgery

> of the pancreas which costed him a few lakhs. for scorpio lagna

> and kanya rasi saturn in 2nd and 4th  respectively will be challenging dasa

for

> the native.

>  

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

> --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir wrote:

>

>

> Sudhir <taurus.sudhir

> Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord

afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

>

> Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:53 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> 

> Dear Gopu,

>  

> His rise in career is due to his Jupiter and Saturn in his 2nd house.

> Job related developments is possible during January.

>  

> Regards

> Sudhir

>

>

>  

>

> -

> K Gopu

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:58 PM

> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord

afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

>

>  

Dear shri bhaskar and other learned members,

> I am giving u the chart details of a native who has rahu in 10th. He went upto

the

> level of Vice president in a big pharma company and in the year 2006 he was

> asked to leave without assigning any reasons. till date he is without a job

> and trying for  a job without success.

> His rahu dasa was over during his education period and it had given him

> a good education. He rose to peak during Jupiter dasa and during saturn

> mahadasa venus antara and rahu pratyantar (june 2006) he lost his job.

> rahu's dispositor sun is debilitated. So rahu can go to the peak and also

> drop down with the same speed.

>  

> DOB; 20th oct 1960

> tob 10.08 am

> place  : Dharwar (karnataka)

>  

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gopu,

 

Thanks for your reply. He is unable to hold on to his position due to weakness of debilitated Sun in 12th.

I want to know if he is corrupt beacuse his strong Jupiter would not allow him.

 

Best regards

Sudhir.

 

 

 

 

 

-

K Gopu

Friday, November 27, 2009 4:39 PM

Re: Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

 

 

 

 

 

dear sudhirji,

The native had a good reaping during Jup mahadasa and once saturn

mahadasa started, the benefits started declining and put him to

lot of hardships. It is basically Jup's aspect of the 10th house which

could see him thro success and saturn being lord of 3rd and 4th

in the 2nd started giving him negative results in professional front

as well as family. His only son had to undergo a major surgery

of the pancreas which costed him a few lakhs. for scorpio lagna

and kanya rasi saturn in 2nd and 4th respectively will be challenging dasa for

the native.

 

regards,

k.gopu--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Sudhir <taurus.sudhir > wrote:

Sudhir <taurus.sudhir > Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:53 PM

 Dear Gopu,

 

His rise in career is due to his Jupiter and Saturn in his 2nd house.

Job related developments is possible during January.

 

Regards

Sudhir

 

 

 

-

K Gopu

ancient_indian_ astrology

Thursday, November 26, 2009 12:58 PM

Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Short or tall person ? 12th lord afflicting lagna, Rahu afflicting 4th house

 

 

 

 

 

Dear shri bhaskar and other learned members,

I am giving u the chart details of a native who has rahu in 10th. He went upto the

level of Vice president in a big pharma company and in the year 2006 he was

asked to leave without assigning any reasons. till date he is without a job

and trying for a job without success.

His rahu dasa was over during his education period and it had given him

a good education. He rose to peak during Jupiter dasa and during saturn

mahadasa venus antara and rahu pratyantar (june 2006) he lost his job.

rahu's dispositor sun is debilitated. So rahu can go to the peak and also

drop down with the same speed.

 

DOB; 20th oct 1960

tob 10.08 am

place : Dharwar (karnataka)

 

regards,

k.gopu