Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjyaRe: [VRI] Criteria for Mahashivaratrivedic_research_institute Cc: , vedic astrology , USBrahmins Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 2:23 AM Dear friends,Om Namo Bhagavate VasudevayaSamazdaroke liye ishaaraahi kafi hai lekin kauljike liye nahi.You may be aware that Magha and Phalguna are Sidereal months and not seasonal months. So those, who advocate the use of the Seasonal calendar only and want to derecognise the Sidereal calendar, in reality they will not have any date for Shivaratri as the ancient shastras have not given any seasonal criterion for the date of Mahashivaratri, ie. not mentioned any seasonal month (like Tapas ot Tapasya) for Mahashivaratri. Then what seasonal criterion will they choose?The calendar of Darshaneyji, as forwarded by Sivaramanji, gives the date of the coming Shivaratri festival as 12 Tapasya without any sashtric sanction. They will also have to explain how then in the Kaushitaki Brahmana there is mention of the Magha New Moon (this decides the time for the Mahashivaratri ) on the Winter Solstice day, which is a criterion for the Seasonal calendar. Those who are giving the date for Shivaratri in terms of the seasonal months are actually stealing the sidereal data and expressing in terms of the Seasonal data and performing Shivaratri according to the Sidereal date. Their outward non-recognition of the Soli-Lunar months such as Magha and Phalguna cannot fool anybody but themselves. Let the injunctions of the shastras prevail.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 11/23/09, jyotirved <jyotirved (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:jyotirved <jyotirved (AT) sify (DOT) com>[VRI] Criteria for MahashivaratriCc: hinducalendar, vedic_research_ institute, usbrahmins@gro ups.com, "'subash razdan'" <subashrazdan@ >Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:58 AM Shri Raj ji, Jai Shri Ram! Following are the criteria for Mahashivaratri: 1. Page 100 of Saha Calendar Reform Committee Report says: Mahashivaratri: In some opinion it is to be observed on nisheetha and in some opinion on pradosha Krishna Chaturdashi of Magha (Gauna Phalguna). If occurs on two successive nisheethas then according to Hemadri it is to be observed on the first day and according to Madhava, to be observed on the second day. 2. More or less a similar criterion has been given by L. D. Swami Kannu Pillai in his Introduction of his Ephemeris. 3. Monier-Williams Sanskrit-English Dictionary: (Maha-)shivaratri :A popular fast and festival kept in honour of Shiva (Kept on the 14th of the dark half of the month Magha or January-February with many solemn ceremonies… 4. Shabdakalpadrumah: Maghamasasya sheshe ya prathme phalgunasya chai krishna chaturdashi saa tu shivaratrih prakeertyete….(skande nagara khandam) Meaning, “Krishna paksha chaturdashi of mukhya Magha or Guana Phalguna is said to be Shivaratri as per Nagara khanda of Skanda Purana) 5. It says further: maghe Krishna chaturdashyam aadi devo mahanishi, shivalingatayodbhoo tah koti soorya samaprabhah Tat kaala vyapini graahya shivaratri vrate tithih, ardha ratrav adhashchordvam yukta yatra chaturdashi vyapta sa drishyate yasyam tasyam kuryat vratam narah Meaning, “(as per Ishana Samhita) On the midnight of Magha Krishna Chaturdashi, Shiva manifested Himself as a Linga, refulgent like billions of suns put together. As such, chaturdashi prevailing at midnight should be taken for Shivaratri fast. It (chaturdashi) should (preferably) be prevailing before and after midnight alsoâ€. I hope this clarification will put paid to those “Hindus†who claim that Maha-Shivaratri is to be celebrated on the Winter Solstice Day. Besides, all the solar as well as lunar months, including Mesha etc. Rashis, of the puranas and sidhantas were linked to Equinoxes and Solstices and thus seasons and not to some imaginary Lahiri or Raman or Muladhara zodiac, which “Vedic astrologers†call sidereal zodiac, only to make a fool of a common man! This has been clearly demonstrated by me by quoting relevant shlokas from Tantrtaloka of Acharya Abhinavagupta of tenth century AD, and his commentator Jayaratha of 12th century AD, in BVB6 etc. documents that all the Shaiva Shastras also talk of nothing but seasonal solar as well as lunar months and not Lahiri or Raman etc, nor even “co-ordinated (sic!)†months. Jai Shri Ram! A K Kaul --- In , "jyotishi" <raj wrote: > Dear Sir, Thanks. As you know, I am struggling to put together the astronomical, cultural and religious basis for celebrating each festival. Shivratri Vrata is on the top of my list. I looked up several translations of the Shiv Purana (consisting of 24000 shlokas), but could not find any reference to the date when Shivratri Vrata is to be celebrated (although the Vrata is mentioned - and there are other Astronomical details like the definition of Lokas, Manvantaras etc.) Could you please help me point out? As you know, the Shiv Purana has six parts, if you just point me to the right section, I will look up the relevant sanskrit text. regards, raj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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