Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 kerala_vedic_astrology , " Vishnu " <vishnumohanalj wrote: Dear sureshji I felt a thread is important for clearing all the doubts we have about navamsa chart as we are going to deal with it daily. So i thought its time to start one I was reading the clasic " stri Jataka " and i could not understand few things which had something to do with navamsa.To get a clearer understanding i am posting it here. I have the english version of it,i do not know whether it came out in sanskrit. From page 10-ebook 1.''If Sukra and Sani occupy each other's navamsas in any rasi, if they aspect each other in the navamsas,the girl becomes extremely passionate'' Does this mean Sukra or sani from rasi chart aspecting sukra or sani in navamsa chart? Or the author is telling about aspects between planets in navamsha chart? page 10 2.''If Kuja navamsa rises in the 7th bhava and has the aspect of Sani, the woman will have a diseased sexual organ.'' ''If a beneficial navamsa rises in the 7th bhava or has beneficial conjunction, she will have a fine sexual organ and beautiful buttocks and will be loved by her husband'' What does the author mean by kuja navamsa rising in the 7th bhava? Does he mean lagna should be thula or vrishaba or does he mean the navamsa lagna should be thula or vrishaba? 3.''If the 7th falls in Makara or Kumbha or those navamsas rise in the 7th bhava her husband will be an old and stubborn fellow'' Does he also take into consideration the 7th from navamsa lagna for this condition? Kindly clarify. Thanks and best wishes Vishnu --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 || Jaya Jaganatha || My dear Vishnu , Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ? Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108. LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root ). sarasalai_siva , " sreesog " <sreesog wrote: > > kerala_vedic_astrology , " Vishnu " <vishnumohanalj@> wrote: > > Dear sureshji > > > > I felt a thread is important for clearing all the doubts we have about navamsa chart as we are going to deal with it daily. > > > > So i thought its time to start one > > > > I was reading the clasic " stri Jataka " and i could not understand few things which had something to do with navamsa.To get a clearer understanding i am posting it here. > > > > I have the english version of it,i do not know whether it came out in sanskrit. > > > > > From page 10-ebook > > > > 1.''If Sukra and Sani occupy each other's navamsas in any rasi, if they aspect each other in the navamsas,the girl becomes extremely passionate'' > > > > > Does this mean Sukra or sani from rasi chart aspecting sukra or sani in navamsa chart? Or the author is telling about aspects between planets in navamsha chart? > > > > > page 10 > > > > 2.''If Kuja navamsa rises in the 7th bhava and has the aspect of Sani, the woman will have a diseased sexual organ.'' > > > > > ''If a beneficial navamsa rises in the 7th bhava or has beneficial conjunction, she will have a fine sexual organ and beautiful buttocks and will be loved by her husband'' > > > > > What does the author mean by kuja navamsa rising in the 7th bhava? > > > > Does he mean lagna should be thula or vrishaba or does he mean the navamsa lagna should be thula or vrishaba? 3.''If the 7th falls in Makara or Kumbha or those navamsas rise in the 7th bhava her husband will be an old and stubborn fellow'' > > > > Does he also take into consideration the 7th from navamsa lagna for this condition? > > > > Kindly clarify. > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > Vishnu > > --- End forwarded message --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Bhai Dear Siva ji, What about the other 16000 odd wives ? what charans do they stand for. If you cannot answer then ask me i will answer it for you. regards/Bhaskar. , " sivagnanalingam " <sarasalai_siva wrote: > > || Jaya Jaganatha || > > My dear Vishnu , > > Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ? > Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108. > LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root ). > > sarasalai_siva > > > > , " sreesog " sreesog@ wrote: > > > > kerala_vedic_astrology , " Vishnu " <vishnumohanalj@> wrote: > > > > Dear sureshji > > > > > > > > I felt a thread is important for clearing all the doubts we have about navamsa chart as we are going to deal with it daily. > > > > > > > > So i thought its time to start one > > > > > > > > I was reading the clasic " stri Jataka " and i could not understand few things which had something to do with navamsa.To get a clearer understanding i am posting it here. > > > > > > > > I have the english version of it,i do not know whether it came out in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > From page 10-ebook > > > > > > > > 1.''If Sukra and Sani occupy each other's navamsas in any rasi, if they aspect each other in the navamsas,the girl becomes extremely passionate'' > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean Sukra or sani from rasi chart aspecting sukra or sani in navamsa chart? Or the author is telling about aspects between planets in navamsha chart? > > > > > > > > > > page 10 > > > > > > > > 2.''If Kuja navamsa rises in the 7th bhava and has the aspect of Sani, the woman will have a diseased sexual organ.'' > > > > > > > > > > ''If a beneficial navamsa rises in the 7th bhava or has beneficial conjunction, she will have a fine sexual organ and beautiful buttocks and will be loved by her husband'' > > > > > > > > > > What does the author mean by kuja navamsa rising in the 7th bhava? > > > > > > > > Does he mean lagna should be thula or vrishaba or does he mean the navamsa lagna should be thula or vrishaba? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.''If the 7th falls in Makara or Kumbha or those navamsas rise in the 7th bhava her husband will be an old and stubborn fellow'' > > > > > > > > Does he also take into consideration the 7th from navamsa lagna for this condition? > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify. > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Dear Siva ji, Vishnu do not need solace and questions, but a clear answer with explanation (based on classic quotes) and examples. He is a well knowledgeable asto scholar, and not a beginner. Please try to see to whom you are talking with and then speak with understanding. 108 wives of Krishna is not an answer to his question; it won't be even if a 1000 more wives comes in. So please leave stories aside and try give a to-the-point clear answer, or leave to other to give an answer, if they can/know how to give an answer to such a mail from a knowledgeable individual. Hope this helps. The epic or puranic stories of Chandra Vamsa and Surya Vamsa has nothing to do with Vishnu ji's question about 'application of Navamsa' and 'question on better understanding of some of the Stri Jataka quotes'. Just wait and listen to see and learn how others answer this question and how much informative and authentic such discussions can become. Please don't talk as if you are sitting in some roof top; the individuals like Vishnu ji is as knowledgeable as any of us; and NOT a student sitting below with a begging bowl saying 'please teach me'. His is NOT your (or our) student, but a decent, equal, well-learned, FRIEND who is participating in discussions here; both taking and giving knowledge. We are NOT above him; and please don't 'act' as if your knowledge base and understanding is above him. If it is - try always to give a to-the-point, authentic answer; putting enough effort. Otherwise just leave it, listen, try to learn from the conversations, improve understanding. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " sivagnanalingam " <sarasalai_siva wrote: > > || Jaya Jaganatha || > > My dear Vishnu , > > Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ? > Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108. > LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root ). > > sarasalai_siva > > > > , " sreesog " <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > kerala_vedic_astrology , " Vishnu " <vishnumohanalj@> wrote: > > > > Dear sureshji > > > > > > > > I felt a thread is important for clearing all the doubts we have about navamsa chart as we are going to deal with it daily. > > > > > > > > So i thought its time to start one > > > > > > > > I was reading the clasic " stri Jataka " and i could not understand few things which had something to do with navamsa.To get a clearer understanding i am posting it here. > > > > > > > > I have the english version of it,i do not know whether it came out in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > From page 10-ebook > > > > > > > > 1.''If Sukra and Sani occupy each other's navamsas in any rasi, if they aspect each other in the navamsas,the girl becomes extremely passionate'' > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean Sukra or sani from rasi chart aspecting sukra or sani in navamsa chart? Or the author is telling about aspects between planets in navamsha chart? > > > > > > > > > > page 10 > > > > > > > > 2.''If Kuja navamsa rises in the 7th bhava and has the aspect of Sani, the woman will have a diseased sexual organ.'' > > > > > > > > > > ''If a beneficial navamsa rises in the 7th bhava or has beneficial conjunction, she will have a fine sexual organ and beautiful buttocks and will be loved by her husband'' > > > > > > > > > > What does the author mean by kuja navamsa rising in the 7th bhava? > > > > > > > > Does he mean lagna should be thula or vrishaba or does he mean the navamsa lagna should be thula or vrishaba? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.''If the 7th falls in Makara or Kumbha or those navamsas rise in the 7th bhava her husband will be an old and stubborn fellow'' > > > > > > > > Does he also take into consideration the 7th from navamsa lagna for this condition? > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify. > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Dear SreenadhjiThanks for speaking in my support.I appreciate your help .I am humbled to learn a scholar like you who brings out knowledge hidden in ancient texts has followed some of my posts.My job has become easier to reply to Mr.Saralai Siva. Dear Mr.Saralai Sivai appreciate your initiative to share information and i will be happy to learn from you,in future.I also understand that astrology has its 'roots' from '"creator of universe''' -The same ''jagannatha'' you had mentioned in the beginning of your mail .You wrote only 3 sentences.I have very basic doubts in them itself.please clarify them.1.///Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ?///I didnt know that Lord krishna had 108 wifes.Can you name them?Is chandra the proud father -in law of Krishna with 108 daughters?Can you please let me know from where did you get this information?It is very new to me.Any info regarding this will be welcomed.According to the ''only Vishnu Purana' i know of and other puranas, I had learnt that Krishna had 16108 wifes.All vaishnavite sections namely 1.Rudra vaishnava sampradaya2.Brahma vaishnava sampradaya3.Sri vaisnava sampradaya4.Kumara vaisnava sampradayaagree unanimously that krishna had 16108 wifes.2.//Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108.///This is an astrological truth taken from classics.I learnt this in my first day of Jyotish school.I am happy that i am able to remember it till today.///LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root ).///This is a fact every hindu knows which is as follows -Lord Rama belonged to surya vamsa and Lord krishna belonged to Chandra vamsha.But i want to ask you one thing as you seem to have good knowledge of puranas.Why people called Rama with the name "Ramachandra '' instead of Ramasurya or Suryaraman?logically ,the name chandra should be affixed with krishna?is it not?But i have never heard of the name Krishna chandran or Chandrakrishnan?My humble request,puranas when created were already lengthy.Please do not add new information as vedavyasa may not like it.Please spare ''vishnu'' or '' krishna' ' , ''the real jagannatha '' when explaining astrological facts .Dont pull krishna for each and every thing in astrology escpecially when you come from a parampara called '' jagannatha''Thanks and best wishesvishnu --- On Fri, 11/27/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:sreesog <sreesog Re: Fwd: How to read Navamsa chart? Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 10:15 AM Dear Siva ji, Vishnu do not need solace and questions, but a clear answer with explanation (based on classic quotes) and examples. He is a well knowledgeable asto scholar, and not a beginner. Please try to see to whom you are talking with and then speak with understanding. 108 wives of Krishna is not an answer to his question; it won't be even if a 1000 more wives comes in. So please leave stories aside and try give a to-the-point clear answer, or leave to other to give an answer, if they can/know how to give an answer to such a mail from a knowledgeable individual. Hope this helps. The epic or puranic stories of Chandra Vamsa and Surya Vamsa has nothing to do with Vishnu ji's question about 'application of Navamsa' and 'question on better understanding of some of the Stri Jataka quotes'. Just wait and listen to see and learn how others answer this question and how much informative and authentic such discussions can become. Please don't talk as if you are sitting in some roof top; the individuals like Vishnu ji is as knowledgeable as any of us; and NOT a student sitting below with a begging bowl saying 'please teach me'. His is NOT your (or our) student, but a decent, equal, well-learned, FRIEND who is participating in discussions here; both taking and giving knowledge. We are NOT above him; and please don't 'act' as if your knowledge base and understanding is above him. If it is - try always to give a to-the-point, authentic answer; putting enough effort. Otherwise just leave it, listen, try to learn from the conversations, improve understanding. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, "sivagnanalingam" <sarasalai_siva@ ...> wrote: > > || Jaya Jaganatha || > > My dear Vishnu , > > Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ? > Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108. > LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root ). > > sarasalai_siva > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreesog" <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > kerala_vedic_ astrology, "Vishnu" <vishnumohanalj@ > wrote: > > > > Dear sureshji > > > > > > > > I felt a thread is important for clearing all the doubts we have about navamsa chart as we are going to deal with it daily. > > > > > > > > So i thought its time to start one > > > > > > > > I was reading the clasic " stri Jataka" and i could not understand few things which had something to do with navamsa.To get a clearer understanding i am posting it here. > > > > > > > > I have the english version of it,i do not know whether it came out in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > From page 10-ebook > > > > > > > > 1.''If Sukra and Sani occupy each other's navamsas in any rasi, if they aspect each other in the navamsas,the girl becomes extremely passionate'' > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean Sukra or sani from rasi chart aspecting sukra or sani in navamsa chart? Or the author is telling about aspects between planets in navamsha chart? > > > > > > > > > > page 10 > > > > > > > > 2.''If Kuja navamsa rises in the 7th bhava and has the aspect of Sani, the woman will have a diseased sexual organ.'' > > > > > > > > > > ''If a beneficial navamsa rises in the 7th bhava or has beneficial conjunction, she will have a fine sexual organ and beautiful buttocks and will be loved by her husband'' > > > > > > > > > > What does the author mean by kuja navamsa rising in the 7th bhava? > > > > > > > > Does he mean lagna should be thula or vrishaba or does he mean the navamsa lagna should be thula or vrishaba? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.''If the 7th falls in Makara or Kumbha or those navamsas rise in the 7th bhava her husband will be an old and stubborn fellow'' > > > > > > > > Does he also take into consideration the 7th from navamsa lagna for this condition? > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify. > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 || Hare Rama Krishna || Namaskar Vishnu, My knowledge in Puranas is only 5 percent. One day a boy asked me Why rahu and kethu r bad ? Then I asked the boy why Visnu cut off the snake into two pieces. Then these two pieces became rahu and kethu. Under these circumtances I recall few Puranic stories. Really I am not expert in Puranic stories. My english language skill also very poor. You might have observed it. regards. sarasalai_siva , Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji > > > Thanks for speaking in my support.I appreciate your help .I am humbled to learn a scholar like you  who brings out knowledge hidden in ancient texts has followed some of my posts. > > > My job has become easier to reply to Mr.Saralai Siva. > > > Dear Mr.Saralai Siva > > i appreciate your initiative to share information and i will be happy to learn from you,in future. > > I also understand that astrology has its 'roots'  from  ' " creator of universe''' -The same ''jagannatha'' you had mentioned in the beginning of your  mail . > > > You wrote only 3 sentences.I have very basic doubts in them itself.please clarify them. > > > 1.///Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ?/// > > > I didnt know that Lord krishna had 108 wifes.Can you name them? > > Is chandra the proud father -in law of Krishna with 108 daughters? > > Can you please let me know from where did you get this information?It is very new to me.Any info regarding this will be welcomed. > > According to the ''only Vishnu Purana'  i know of and other puranas, I had learnt that  Krishna had  16108 wifes. > > All vaishnavite sections namely > > 1.Rudra vaishnava sampradaya > 2.Brahma vaishnava sampradaya > 3.Sri vaisnava sampradaya > 4.Kumara vaisnava sampradaya > > agree unanimously that krishna had 16108 wifes. > > > > 2.//Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108./// > > This is an astrological truth taken from classics.I learnt this in my first day of Jyotish school.I am happy that i am able to remember it till today. > > > > ///LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root )./// > > This is a fact every hindu knows which is as follows -Lord Rama belonged to surya vamsa and Lord krishna belonged to Chandra vamsha. > > > But i want to ask you one thing as you seem to have good knowledge of puranas. > > > > Why people called Rama with the name  " Ramachandra ''  instead of Ramasurya or Suryaraman? > > > logically ,the name chandra  should be affixed with krishna?is it not?But i have never heard of the name Krishna chandran or Chandrakrishnan? > > > > My humble request, > > > puranas when created were already lengthy.Please do not add new information as vedavyasa may not like it. > > > Please spare  ''vishnu'' or  '' krishna' ' , ''the real jagannatha '' when explaining astrological facts .Dont pull krishna for each and every thing  in astrology escpecially when you come from a parampara called  '' jagannatha'' > > > Thanks and best wishes > > vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   > > > --- On Fri, 11/27/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote: > > sreesog <sreesog > Re: Fwd: How to read Navamsa chart? > > Friday, November 27, 2009, 10:15 AM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Siva ji, > > Vishnu do not need solace and questions, but a clear answer with explanation (based on classic quotes) and examples. He is a well knowledgeable asto scholar, and not a beginner. Please try to see to whom you are talking with and then speak with understanding. 108 wives of Krishna is not an answer to his question; it won't be even if a 1000 more wives comes in. > > So please leave stories aside and try give a to-the-point clear answer, or leave to other to give an answer, if they can/know how to give an answer to such a mail from a knowledgeable individual. > > Hope this helps. The epic or puranic stories of Chandra Vamsa and Surya Vamsa has nothing to do with Vishnu ji's question about 'application of Navamsa' and 'question on better understanding of some of the Stri Jataka quotes'. Just wait and listen to see and learn how others answer this question and how much informative and authentic such discussions can become. > > Please don't talk as if you are sitting in some roof top; the individuals like Vishnu ji is as knowledgeable as any of us; and NOT a student sitting below with a begging bowl saying 'please teach me'. His is NOT your (or our) student, but a decent, equal, well-learned, FRIEND who is participating in discussions here; both taking and giving knowledge. We are NOT above him; and please don't 'act' as if your knowledge base and understanding is above him. If it is - try always to give a to-the-point, authentic answer; putting enough effort. Otherwise just leave it, listen, try to learn from the conversations, improve understanding. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sivagnanalingam " <sarasalai_siva@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > || Jaya Jaganatha || > > > > > > My dear Vishnu , > > > > > > Don't worry abou Navamsa. When I have time I will try to explain about Navamsa. Do you Know Lord Krishna had 108 wifes ? > > > Each nakshthira has ROUR Pads . There are 27 stars . 4x27 = 108. > > > LOrd Krishna belongs Chandra Vamsa ( root ). > > > > > > sarasalai_siva > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreesog " <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > kerala_vedic_ astrology, " Vishnu " <vishnumohanalj@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear sureshji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I felt a thread is important for clearing all the doubts we have about navamsa chart as we are going to deal with it daily. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i thought its time to start one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading the clasic " stri Jataka " and i could not understand few things which had something to do with navamsa.To get a clearer understanding i am posting it here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the english version of it,i do not know whether it came out in sanskrit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From page 10-ebook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.''If Sukra and Sani occupy each other's navamsas in any rasi, if they aspect each other in the navamsas,the girl becomes extremely passionate'' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean Sukra or sani from rasi chart aspecting sukra or sani in navamsa chart? Or the author is telling about aspects between planets in navamsha chart? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > page 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.''If Kuja navamsa rises in the 7th bhava and has the aspect of Sani, the woman will have a diseased sexual organ.'' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ''If a beneficial navamsa rises in the 7th bhava or has beneficial conjunction, she will have a fine sexual organ and beautiful buttocks and will be loved by her husband'' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does the author mean by kuja navamsa rising in the 7th bhava? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does he mean lagna should be thula or vrishaba or does he mean the navamsa lagna should be thula or vrishaba? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.''If the 7th falls in Makara or Kumbha or those navamsas rise in the 7th bhava her husband will be an old and stubborn fellow'' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does he also take into consideration the 7th from navamsa lagna for this condition? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 There are two portions in Navamsa Kundali. 1. One is used to idendify the star position with reference to Rasi, where palnets are clubed into one group of 9 padas ( spreading over 3 stars); The learned astrolger will easily idendify the pada in which the planet is placed with reference to the Navamsa position. 2. The second is to give prediction/ based on the position ;sometimes with the help of Rasi position and sometimes independently in the Navamsa position. 3. Long back, in the Astrological Magazine of Sri BV Raman, serial artilces were published in the tile of Prognostication through Navamsa. 4. In any case, the position of planets in the Raasi is more important and the position in the Navamsa gives a precision to the decision. 5. In the KP system,where the position of planets in Raasi is linked to the house, star on which it is placed, and the 9 segments of star is also linked to define the planets. Under such circumstances taking the navamsa position is easy to go to the roots. Madhavan Parthasarathy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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