Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Thank you Bhaskarji for the nice piece with a still nicer message. But the actual figure should have been 99 as Yuyutsu defected to the Pandava side at the last moment and he survived that war.--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 9:28 AM Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons When Dhritrashtra lost his 100 sons and he himself died, he met God. he asked God " Prabhu I dont remember having done any apradh in this janma or last xxx janams, so why did I have to bear the burden of having to undergo pain of a 100 sons dead, till I was alive ?" God replied. "yes you have not done any wrong, but xxx janams before you were a king and liked tasty food. One day your regular cook was on leave and the new cook who came in place knew that if he did not serve you tasty food he would be given punishment and kicked out. Not knowing how to make you satisfied he killed a baby swan and cooked it . You ate it and relished it very much. So from next day onwards the cook went on killing baby swans and cooking them for you till the number reached 100 and when the old cook came back. You had to bear the karma of those 100 baby swans being killed and eaten by You ". Dhritrashtra - "But Prabhu if I did it in xxx janams before, then why bear the fruits of it in this janam ? Why was I not given the punishment in that same janam itself ? " Prabhu " Because you had to take as many janams and do as much punya so as to be eligible to give birth to 100 sons ". Now dear freinds, above story is ture or not, but teaches us that any karma has to bear fruit, good or evil, and the fruits will be reserved for us till we get ready to be eligible for them, today, or tomorrow or in future. Above story is true or not, dont ask me please. I dont know. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Shri Sunil ji, Sir I do not know exactly. Whatever I know I remember from memory only, and for details, unless somebody argues with me, I dont go and read. You know am not a historian. But I do remember this deflection part having heard or read about it some years ago. I believe you. thanks for putting this and setting the record straight. regards/Bhaskar. , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Thank you Bhaskarji for the nice piece with a still nicer message. But the actual figure should have been 99 as Yuyutsu defected to the Pandava side at the last moment and he survived that war. > > --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > Sunday, November 29, 2009, 9:28 AM >  > > > Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons >  > When Dhritrashtra lost his 100 sons and he himself died, he met God. > he asked God " Prabhu I dont remember having done any apradh in > this janma or last xxx janams, so why did I have to bear the burden of > having to undergo pain of a 100 sons dead, till I was alive ? "   >  > God replied. " yes you have not done any wrong, but xxx janams before > you were a king and liked tasty food. One day your regular cook was > on leave and the new cook who came in place knew that if he did not > serve you tasty food he would be given punishment and kicked out. > Not knowing how to make you satisfied he killed a baby swan and > cooked it . You ate it and relished it very much. So from next day > onwards the cook went on killing baby swans and cooking them for > you  till the number reached 100 and when the old cook came back. > You had to bear the karma of those 100 baby swans being killed and > eaten by You " . >  > Dhritrashtra - " But Prabhu if I did it in xxx janams before, then why > bear the fruits of it in this janam ? Why was I not given the punishment > in that same janam itself ? " >  > Prabhu " Because you had to take as many janams and do as much > punya so as to be eligible to give birth to 100 sons " . >  > Now dear freinds, above story is ture or not, but teaches us that any > karma has to bear fruit, good or evil, and the fruits will be reserved > for us till we get ready to be eligible for them, today, or tomorrow or > in future. >  > Above story is true or not, dont ask me please. I dont know. >  > regards/Bhaskar.    > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Bhattacharya ji; i think you forgetting Dhirtrashtra's daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; that makes the count 100. Regards Kulbir , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Thank you Bhaskarji for the nice piece with a still nicer message. But the actual figure should have been 99 as Yuyutsu defected to the Pandava side at the last moment and he survived that war. > > --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > Sunday, November 29, 2009, 9:28 AM >  > > > Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons >  > When Dhritrashtra lost his 100 sons and he himself died, he met God. > he asked God " Prabhu I dont remember having done any apradh in > this janma or last xxx janams, so why did I have to bear the burden of > having to undergo pain of a 100 sons dead, till I was alive ? "   >  > God replied. " yes you have not done any wrong, but xxx janams before > you were a king and liked tasty food. One day your regular cook was > on leave and the new cook who came in place knew that if he did not > serve you tasty food he would be given punishment and kicked out. > Not knowing how to make you satisfied he killed a baby swan and > cooked it . You ate it and relished it very much. So from next day > onwards the cook went on killing baby swans and cooking them for > you  till the number reached 100 and when the old cook came back. > You had to bear the karma of those 100 baby swans being killed and > eaten by You " . >  > Dhritrashtra - " But Prabhu if I did it in xxx janams before, then why > bear the fruits of it in this janam ? Why was I not given the punishment > in that same janam itself ? " >  > Prabhu " Because you had to take as many janams and do as much > punya so as to be eligible to give birth to 100 sons " . >  > Now dear freinds, above story is ture or not, but teaches us that any > karma has to bear fruit, good or evil, and the fruits will be reserved > for us till we get ready to be eligible for them, today, or tomorrow or > in future. >  > Above story is true or not, dont ask me please. I dont know. >  > regards/Bhaskar.    > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Bhattacharya ji; i think you are forgetting Dhritrashtra's daughter Dushala and her Husband Jyadaratha. that makes the count 100. regards kulbir , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Thank you Bhaskarji for the nice piece with a still nicer message. But the actual figure should have been 99 as Yuyutsu defected to the Pandava side at the last moment and he survived that war. > > --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > Sunday, November 29, 2009, 9:28 AM >  > > > Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons >  > When Dhritrashtra lost his 100 sons and he himself died, he met God. > he asked God " Prabhu I dont remember having done any apradh in > this janma or last xxx janams, so why did I have to bear the burden of > having to undergo pain of a 100 sons dead, till I was alive ? "   >  > God replied. " yes you have not done any wrong, but xxx janams before > you were a king and liked tasty food. One day your regular cook was > on leave and the new cook who came in place knew that if he did not > serve you tasty food he would be given punishment and kicked out. > Not knowing how to make you satisfied he killed a baby swan and > cooked it . You ate it and relished it very much. So from next day > onwards the cook went on killing baby swans and cooking them for > you  till the number reached 100 and when the old cook came back. > You had to bear the karma of those 100 baby swans being killed and > eaten by You " . >  > Dhritrashtra - " But Prabhu if I did it in xxx janams before, then why > bear the fruits of it in this janam ? Why was I not given the punishment > in that same janam itself ? " >  > Prabhu " Because you had to take as many janams and do as much > punya so as to be eligible to give birth to 100 sons " . >  > Now dear freinds, above story is ture or not, but teaches us that any > karma has to bear fruit, good or evil, and the fruits will be reserved > for us till we get ready to be eligible for them, today, or tomorrow or > in future. >  > Above story is true or not, dont ask me please. I dont know. >  > regards/Bhaskar.    > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dussala is also outside the hundred - Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. Shankarkulbir <kulbirbains Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Bhattacharya ji; i think you forgetting Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; that makes the count 100. Regards Kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Shankar ji, Thanks for putting the record straight. Regards Kulbir , ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj wrote: > > Dussala is also outside the hundred - > > Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. > > Shankar > > > > ________________________________ > kulbir <kulbirbains > > Mon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM > Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > > Bhattacharya ji; > > i think you forgetting > > Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; > > that makes the count 100. > Regards > Kulbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Are you sure Gandhari had 100 sons? Was that really possible? I understand Gandhari had only 14 sons of her own and the others were her adpted sons. Yuyutsu was a maharathi and he was the son of dhritarashtra from his vaishya maid. Visakha. Of course Duhshala is out of the reckoning as she was a daughter..--- On Mon, 11/30/09, ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj wrote:ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:08 AM Dussala is also outside the hundred - Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. Shankarkulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Bhattacharya ji; i think you forgetting Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; that makes the count 100. Regards Kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Bhattacharya ji; What fate do you think of a widow in those times? regards Kulbir , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Are you sure Gandhari had 100 sons? Was that really possible? I understand Gandhari had only 14 sons of her own and the others were her adpted sons. Yuyutsu was a maharathi and he was the son of dhritarashtra from his vaishya maid. Visakha. Of course Duhshala is out of the reckoning as she was a daughter.. > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj wrote: > > ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj > Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:08 AM >  > > > Dussala is also outside the hundred - > > Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. > > Shankar > kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Mon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > >  Bhattacharya ji; > > > > i think you forgetting > > > > Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; > > > > that makes the count 100. > > Regards > > Kulbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Dear Sunil ji,Yes Gandhari had a hundred sons, at least that is what MBH tells us. The story is that when Yudhistira was born Gandhari wept out of envy and punched her fetus, and it was stored in parts in hundred containers - out of which the hundred sons came. This is from Adi Parva, section CXV:""Vaisampayana said, 'One day Gandhari entertained with respectful attention the great Dwaipayana who came to her abode, exhausted with hunger and fatigue. Gratified with Gandhari's hospitality, the Rishi gave her the boon she asked for, viz., that she should have a century of sons each equal unto her lord in strength and accomplishments. Some time after Gandhari conceived and she bore the burden in her womb for two long years without being delivered. And she was greatly afflicted at this. It was then that she heard that Kunti had brought forth a son whose splendour was like unto the morning sun. Impatient of the period of gestation which had prolonged so long, and deprived of reason by grief, she struck her womb with great violence without the knowledge of her husband. And thereupon came out of her womb, after two years' growth, a hard mass of flesh like unto an iron ball. When she was about to throw it away, Dwaipayana, learning everything by his spiritual powers, promptly came there, and that first of ascetics beholding that ball of flesh, addressed the daughter of Suvala thus, 'What hast thou done?' Gandhari, without endeavouring to disguise her feelings, addressed the Rishi and said, 'Having heard that Kunti had brought forth a son like unto Surya in splendour, I struck in grief at my womb. Thou hadst, O Rishi, granted me the boon that I should have a hundred sons, but here is only a ball of flesh for those hundred sons!' Vyasa then said, 'Daughter of Suvala, it is even so. But my words can never be futile. I have not spoken an untruth even in jest. I need not speak of other occasions. Let a hundred pots full of clarified butter be brought instantly, and let them be placed at a concealed spot. In the meantime, let cool water be sprinkled over this ball of flesh.' "Vaisampayana continued, 'That ball of flesh then, sprinkled over with p. 242 water, became, in time, divided into a hundred and one parts, each about the size of the thumb. These were then put into those pots full of clarified butter that had been placed at a concealed spot and were watched with care. The illustrious Vyasa then said unto the daughter of Suvala that she should open the covers of the pots after full two years. And having said this and made these arrangements, the wise Dwaipayana went to the Himavat mountains for devoting himself to asceticism. "Then in time, king Duryodhana was born from among those pieces of the ball of flesh that had been deposited in those pots. According to the order of birth, king Yudhishthira was the oldest. The news of Duryodhana's birth was carried to Bhishma and the wise Vidura. The day that the haughty Duryodhana was born was also the birth-day of Bhima of mighty arms and great prowess. "As soon as Duryodhana was born, he began to cry and bray like an ass. And hearing that sound, the asses, vultures, jackals and crows uttered their respective cries responsively. Violent winds began to blow, and there were fires in various directions. Then king Dhritarashtra in great fear, summoning Bhishma and Vidura and other well-wishers and all the Kurus, and numberless Brahmanas, addressed them and said, 'The oldest of those princes, Yudhishthira, is the perpetuator of our line. By virtue of his birth he hath acquired the kingdom. We have nothing to say to this. But shall this my son born after him become king? Tell me truly what is lawful and right under these circumstances.' As soon as these words were spoken, O Bharata, jackals and other carnivorous animals began to howl ominously And marking those frightful omens all around, the assembled Brahmanas and the wise Vidura replied, 'O king, O bull among men, when these frightful omens are noticeable at the birth of thy eldest son, it is evident that he shall be the exterminator of thy race. The prosperity of all dependeth on his abandonment. Calamity there must be in keeping him. O king, if thou abandonest him, there remain yet thy nine and ninety sons. If thou desirest the good of thy race, abandon him, O Bharata! O king, do good to the world and thy own race by casting off this one child of thine. It hath been said that an individual should be cast off for the sake of the family; that a family should be cast off for the sake of a village; that a village may be abandoned for the sake of the whole country; and that the earth itself may be abandoned for the sake of the soul.' When Vidura and those Brahmanas had stated so, king Dhritarashtra out of affection for his son had not the heart to follow that advice. Then, O king, within a month, were born a full hundred sons unto Dhritarashtra and a daughter also in excess of this hundred. And during the time when Gandhari was in a state of advanced pregnancy, there was a maid servant of the Vaisya class who used to attend on Dhritarashtra. During that year, O king, was begotten upon her by the illustrious Dhritarashtra a son endued with great intelligence who was afterwards named Yuvutsu. "ShankarSunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 4:09:08 PMRe: Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Are you sure Gandhari had 100 sons? Was that really possible? I understand Gandhari had only 14 sons of her own and the others were her adpted sons. Yuyutsu was a maharathi and he was the son of dhritarashtra from his vaishya maid. Visakha. Of course Duhshala is out of the reckoning as she was a daughter..--- On Mon, 11/30/09, ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ > wrote:ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sonsancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, November 30, 2009, 1:08 AM Dussala is also outside the hundred - Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. Shankarkulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Bhattacharya ji; i think you forgetting Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; that makes the count 100. Regards Kulbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Kulbirji,In the Mahabharata times the Smritis by Sankha and Likhita were followed. You will have to read any of these two books. In those days the widows were taken care of properly. Widow remarriage was not sanctioned in those days till Parashar relaxed that at a later date. Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya--- On Mon, 11/30/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:47 AM Bhattacharya ji; What fate do you think of a widow in those times? regards Kulbir ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > Are you sure Gandhari had 100 sons? Was that really possible? I understand Gandhari had only 14 sons of her own and the others were her adpted sons. Yuyutsu was a maharathi and he was the son of dhritarashtra from his vaishya maid. Visakha. Of course Duhshala is out of the reckoning as she was a daughter.. > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ ...> wrote: > > ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > ancient_indian_ astrology > Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:08 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dussala is also outside the hundred - > > Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. > > Shankar > kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Mon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Bhattacharya ji; > > > > i think you forgetting > > > > Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; > > > > that makes the count 100. > > Regards > > Kulbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Bhattacharya ji; King Vijaya, son of Jayadratha, from his wife Sambh & #363;ti; ascended the throne after Jayadrartha's death. Sambhuti has this mention after the death of her husband. is there any mention of Dushala.? Regards Kulbir , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Kulbirji, > > In the Mahabharata times the Smritis by Sankha and Likhita were followed. You will have to read any of these two books. In those days the widows were taken care of properly. Widow remarriage was not sanctioned in those days till Parashar relaxed that at a later date. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote: > > kulbir <kulbirbains > Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:47 AM > > > Bhattacharya ji; > > What fate do you think of a widow in those times? > > regards > > Kulbir > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > > > > > Are you sure Gandhari had 100 sons? Was that really possible? I understand Gandhari had only 14 sons of her own and the others were her adpted sons. Yuyutsu was a maharathi and he was the son of dhritarashtra from his vaishya maid. Visakha. Of course Duhshala is out of the reckoning as she was a daughter.. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ ...> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, November 30, 2009, 1:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dussala is also outside the hundred - > > > > > > Gandhari has a hundred sons and a daughter, and Yuyutsu is born to a dasi. All the hundred sons were killed by Bhimasena in the great war. > > > > > > Shankar > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Mon, November 30, 2009 2:12:36 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Dhritrashtra and his 100 sons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhattacharya ji; > > > > > > > > > > > > i think you forgetting > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirtrashtra' s daughter;- Dushala and her husband Jayadratha; > > > > > > > > > > > > that makes the count 100. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Kulbir > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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