Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 kerala_vedic_astrology , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: Dear Girish, The explanation provided by Sreenadh is absolutely correct. The word " Maraka " means one who kills. However, a Maraka planet, need not always kill (cause death or severe physical affliction), it is stand alone or has benefic association / aspect etc. It becomes more potent when it is associated with Saturn ( karaka for 6/8/12) houses, Gulika, Planets having Kendradipathya dosha, if its is Mrithyu Bhaga, In Dina Mrithyu(Muhurtha term) and a few other factors as well. Further, the transit etc should also concide with the timming. It is like shift of gears in a motor vehicle. The Gear falls into the correct gear when all the small gears fall into the right place. Even if one of them is out of sinch, the gear will not fall correctly. Just to clarify the matter further, Saravali provides two simple verses about the dasas that give good & bad results saraavali. Good results svocchasvaraashinijabhaagasuhR^id{}gR^ihasthaaH saMpuurNaviiryaruchiraa balinaH svakaale mitrocchabhaagasahitaaH shubhadR^iShTiyuktaaH shreShTaaM dashaaM vidadhati svavayaHsu kheTaaH.. a) Planet in Exaltation b) Planet in Own sign c) Planet in own navamsa d) planet in friends house E) Planet having full rays f) Planets having strength g) Planets having kalabhala h) Planet in Ucha navamsa i) Planet in friends navamsa j) planet aspected by benefic planets k) planet with benefic planets Bad results giving dasa viichashatrugR^ihaM praaptaaH shatrunimnaaMshasuuryagaaH vivarNaa paapasaMbandhaa kuryurashobhanaam.. a) Planet in debilation b) planet in enemies house c) planet in enemies navamsa d) planet in debilation navamsa f) planet having maudya g) planet without rays h) planet aspected by malefic j) planet planet with malefic planet Note: The " swavayasu " should be interpreted as own age, indicating the nisarga age given for planet, implying the Nisarga dasa of the planet. It should be noted that nowhere its is given that kendradhipathya dosha should be accounted for normal assessment of the dasa other than in situations earlier discussed. In addition to this the planets in the Kendra should also be assertained. chapter - 6 svarkshatrikoNatu~Ngasthaa yadi kendreShu saMsthitaaH anyonyaM kaarakaaste syuH kendreShveva harermatam.. tu~NgasuhR^itsvagR^ihaaMshe sthitaa grahaaH kaarakaaH samaakhyaataaH meShuuraNe cha raviriti visheShato vakti chaaNakyaH.. lagnasthaaH sukhasaMsthaa dashamasthaashcaapi kaarakaaK sarve ekaadashe.api kechid{}vaa~nChanti ca tanmataM muniindraaNaam.. As per the above Jupiter in exaltation is Karaka for Mars also(6th Lord). So it is natural that Jupiter gives financial problems attributed to the 6th lord. Hope this clarifies that matter further.   A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ sreesog <sreesog kerala_vedic_astrology Mon, November 30, 2009 1:04:32 PM [kerala_vedic_astrology] Re: Kendradhipathi dosha  Dear Girish ji, Kendradhipati dosha is applicable in Death period determination ONLY and not in other places as per the original text that mentions this dosha - i.e. Jataka Chandrika (alias Laghu Parasari alias Udu daya pradeepa)written by Venkateswara Dikshitar (Son of Yagnya Narayana) who lived in 9th or 10th century AD. Jataka Chandrika states - " Marakatwepi cha tayor maraka stana samthiti.... ... bhavettadanu tadvidha " etc. Due to their marakatva (death inflicting effect) they cause death in their dasa antara especially if placed in maraka houses such as 2nd or 7th. Therefore except while trying to locate the vimsottari dasa-antara period which may cause death to the native we SHOULD NOT consider or use this concept. Application of this unique concept (told with a specific purpose) everywhere may undermine the basic intend of this tool itself. The application of Kendradhipati dosha would for example - the 8th lord's dasa 7th lords antara (or vice versa) can cause death or death like hazards (very bad period). Possibly we should not associate Kendradhipati dosha with the general good/bad results of the dasa. Suresh ji may explain further from that specific chart's perspective. Love and regards, Sreenadh kerala_vedic_ astrology, " Girish " <horamag@ > wrote: > > Respected sureshji > A doubt regarding kendradhipathi dosha. > As i understand for gemini and virgo natives Jupiter if posted in 1 4 7 or 10 will have KP dosha. Sir to what extend will this dosha affect the native.I have a chart of my friend who is undergoing Jupiter dasha and he has Ju in ucham in rasi as well as navamsa. So his dasha should be excellent for him.But it is only average .is it because of KP dosha > POB:April 3 1967 > TOB:12:30 pm > POB:Kottayam > His guru dasha started from approx 2004 > Yr 2004 till 2005 was extremely bad for him(He said he struggled for 5 rs also) with regards to finance and relationship. > He had a accident on oct 2 2007 he had to put steel rod on his legs. > From 2008 onwards he says there is improvement. > But as a beginner if i look at the chart i would have predicted good time which is not so. Is it because of KP dosha or mandi is in conjunction with jupiter or Ju degree is 1:17 or the dipositor moon is in 8th. I am keen to know with regards to KP dosha. > Thanks and regards > Girish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 kerala_vedic_astrology , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: Dear Suresh Babu ji, According to my understanding the kD is aaplicable only when planet is in kendra from lagna as follow Kendradhipati Dosha has classical sanction. You may refer to Atha yogakarakaadhyayah of BPHS on this and form your own understanding rather than reading what others have to say about this somewhat complex issue. Shloka 2 Kendradhipatayah saumya na dishanti shubham phalam Kroora na eva ashubham kuryuhu shubhadaha cha trikonapaha A benefic owning kendras will not give auspicious results. Malefic owning kendras do not remain inauspicious. The lord of the trines gives auspicious effects Shloka 3 lagnam kendra trikonatvat viseshana shubhapadam Panchamam navamam cha eva visesha dhanam uchyate Lagna is a trine and an angle simultaneously, hence the lord of lagna is auspicious. The 5th and the 9th houses are especially for wealth Shloka 10 kendradhipataydoshayoho shubhanam kathito hi sah Chandra gya guru shukranam prabalaha cha uttarottaram The kendradhipati dosha is thus about the benefics. Moon, mercury, Jupiter and venus is the order of significance Shloka 14 kendrashatvena papanam ya prokta shubhakarita Sa trikona adhipatye api na kendreshatva matratah Malefics having lordship of kendras become shubh, only if it simultaneously also owns a kona, and not by mere ownership of Kendra As per these 4 shlokas, this dosha applies to Jupiter for Gemini and virgo ascendants, and Mercury for Sagitarius and Pisces ascendants when they are placed in angles. However, they cease to be benefics, and do not become malefics as per this dictum. Moon as 4L may be covered under this dosha, if it is benefic. So all these shloka refers to kendra from lagna. Please guide. Regards --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Sirs As per sloka 2 , jup is placed in pisces for sagitarius lagna is kp dosha?Senthil --- On Mon, 30/11/09, sreesog <sreesog wrote:sreesog <sreesog Fwd: Re: [kerala_vedic_astrology] Re: Kendradhipathi dosha Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 11:35 PM kerala_vedic_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@. ..> wrote: Dear Suresh Babu ji, According to my understanding the kD is aaplicable only when planet is in kendra from lagna as follow Kendradhipati Dosha has classical sanction. You may refer to Atha yogakarakaadhyayah of BPHS on this and form your own understanding rather than reading what others have to say about this somewhat complex issue. Shloka 2 Kendradhipatayah saumya na dishanti shubham phalam Kroora na eva ashubham kuryuhu shubhadaha cha trikonapaha A benefic owning kendras will not give auspicious results. Malefic owning kendras do not remain inauspicious. The lord of the trines gives auspicious effects Shloka 3 lagnam kendra trikonatvat viseshana shubhapadam Panchamam navamam cha eva visesha dhanam uchyate Lagna is a trine and an angle simultaneously, hence the lord of lagna is auspicious. The 5th and the 9th houses are especially for wealth Shloka 10 kendradhipataydosha yoho shubhanam kathito hi sah Chandra gya guru shukranam prabalaha cha uttarottaram The kendradhipati dosha is thus about the benefics. Moon, mercury, Jupiter and venus is the order of significance Shloka 14 kendrashatvena papanam ya prokta shubhakarita Sa trikona adhipatye api na kendreshatva matratah Malefics having lordship of kendras become shubh, only if it simultaneously also owns a kona, and not by mere ownership of Kendra As per these 4 shlokas, this dosha applies to Jupiter for Gemini and virgo ascendants, and Mercury for Sagitarius and Pisces ascendants when they are placed in angles. However, they cease to be benefics, and do not become malefics as per this dictum. Moon as 4L may be covered under this dosha, if it is benefic. So all these shloka refers to kendra from lagna. Please guide. Regards --- End forwarded message --- The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dear Senthilji, KP dosha is not based on placement. It is based on ownership of kendras. But yes for Dhanur lagna, Guru is the owner of 4th house and hence a mild KP dosha applies. KP dosha is enhanced when the benific owns more than one Kendra. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of senthil nathan Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:41 AM Re: Fwd: Re: [kerala_vedic_astrology] Re: Kendradhipathi dosha Sirs As per sloka 2 , jup is placed in pisces for sagitarius lagna is kp dosha? Senthil --- On Mon, 30/11/09, sreesog <sreesog > wrote: sreesog <sreesog > Fwd: Re: [kerala_vedic_astrology] Re: Kendradhipathi dosha Monday, 30 November, 2009, 11:35 PM kerala_vedic_ astrology@ . com, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija@. ..> wrote: Dear Suresh Babu ji, According to my understanding the kD is aaplicable only when planet is in kendra from lagna as follow Kendradhipati Dosha has classical sanction. You may refer to Atha yogakarakaadhyayah of BPHS on this and form your own understanding rather than reading what others have to say about this somewhat complex issue. Shloka 2 Kendradhipatayah saumya na dishanti shubham phalam Kroora na eva ashubham kuryuhu shubhadaha cha trikonapaha A benefic owning kendras will not give auspicious results. Malefic owning kendras do not remain inauspicious. The lord of the trines gives auspicious effects Shloka 3 lagnam kendra trikonatvat viseshana shubhapadam Panchamam navamam cha eva visesha dhanam uchyate Lagna is a trine and an angle simultaneously, hence the lord of lagna is auspicious. The 5th and the 9th houses are especially for wealth Shloka 10 kendradhipataydosha yoho shubhanam kathito hi sah Chandra gya guru shukranam prabalaha cha uttarottaram The kendradhipati dosha is thus about the benefics. Moon, mercury, Jupiter and venus is the order of significance Shloka 14 kendrashatvena papanam ya prokta shubhakarita Sa trikona adhipatye api na kendreshatva matratah Malefics having lordship of kendras become shubh, only if it simultaneously also owns a kona, and not by mere ownership of Kendra As per these 4 shlokas, this dosha applies to Jupiter for Gemini and virgo ascendants, and Mercury for Sagitarius and Pisces ascendants when they are placed in angles. However, they cease to be benefics, and do not become malefics as per this dictum. Moon as 4L may be covered under this dosha, if it is benefic. So all these shloka refers to kendra from lagna. Please guide. Regards --- End forwarded message --- The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release 11/30/09 13:01:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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