Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Dear Learned Members,In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage partner- husband/wife? If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani.Vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Vidya ji, First please define and bring out the differences between " soul mate " and " marriage partner " . Also mention whether they are same or not. Please do not bring in Exalted personalities of Godhead like Lord Krishna in these time-pass discussions. And how is it going to make difference to us who was His soulmate ? Are we supposed to sit for a Exam in Vaikuntha or Goloka ? Why the need to bring this out when in a previous mail you mentioned that astrologers do not know anything. Bhaskar. , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > Dear Learned Members, > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your > marriage partner- husband/wife? > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > Vidya > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Ms Vidya, Jyotish does not differentiate. It only deals with the "spouse" and "others". If you are referring the the western/new age concept of Soul Mate, then there is no vedic reference to the same. By the way, a "soulmate", even in New Age definition, does not have to be a "mate", it could be a child or friend or parent etc. But then that is not Jyotish. Bhaskar Ji does have a point about Lord Krishna. Honestly we do not know if those Puranas were literal or symbolic. So it is best to leave Deities out of the equation. Regarding predicting earthquakes, Tsunami etc, that is the science of "mundane" astrology, which is a separate field and personally does not interest me. So others who might be interested in this can comment. People who get affected by such tragedies will also have that reflected in the birth chart, so nothing happens by "accident". If it is not a tsunami, it will be a terrorist bomb, if not then a car accident, else a fall from the stair etc. Events of such magnitude cannot be stopped ( in my humble opinion). Regarding you comment on "astrologers claim", you may not have meant it that way, but it is no "claim", but real. Please read through some of the messages/quizes in this forum dealing with prediction and you can tell that it IS possible to predict quite accurately. It takes practice, sincerity and the Grace of God and Guru and good karma of the client to get a good accurate reading. Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 12:38:13 PM Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology Dear Learned Members,In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage partner- husband/wife? If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani.Vidya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Manoj ji,//Regarding you comment on "astrologers claim", you may not have meant it that way, but it is no "claim", but real. Please read through some of the messages/quizes in this forum dealing with prediction and you can tell that it IS possible to predict quite accurately. It takes practice, sincerity and the Grace of God and Guru and good karma of the client to get a good accurate reading.//fantastic.....Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Ms Vidya,> > Jyotish does not differentiate. It only deals with the "spouse" and "others". If you are referring the the western/new age concept of Soul Mate, then there is no vedic reference to the same. By the way, a "soulmate", even in New Age definition, does not have to be a "mate", it could be a child or friend or parent etc. But then that is not Jyotish.> > Bhaskar Ji does have a point about Lord Krishna. Honestly we do not know if those Puranas were literal or symbolic. So it is best to leave Deities out of the equation.> > Regarding predicting earthquakes, Tsunami etc, that is the science of "mundane" astrology, which is a separate field and personally does not interest me. So others who might be interested in this can comment. People who get affected by such tragedies will also have that reflected in the birth chart, so nothing happens by "accident". If it is not a tsunami, it will be a terrorist bomb, if not then a car accident, else a fall from the stair etc. Events of such magnitude cannot be stopped ( in my humble opinion).> > Regarding you comment on "astrologers claim", you may not have meant it that way, but it is no "claim", but real. Please read through some of the messages/quizes in this forum dealing with prediction and you can tell that it IS possible to predict quite accurately. It takes practice, sincerity and the Grace of God and Guru and good karma of the client to get a good accurate reading.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ________________________________> Vidya vidyakmr > Thu, December 3, 2009 12:38:13 PM> Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology> >  > Dear Learned Members,> > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage partner- husband/wife? > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani.> > Vidya> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Vidya, Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna never had 16108 wives. Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic representations. I don’t remember the details. Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him. Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc were the 8 bhavas merged into one. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Vidya Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM Subject: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology Dear Learned Members, In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage partner- husband/wife? If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. Vidya Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release 12/04/09 01:06:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, Whether Lord Krishna had so many wives or not, the puranas say so. Its upto us to believe them or not. As regards to symbolic, the tangible is always there primarily, and the secondary becomes a symybol. For instance the Rose is always there, then secondairy its considered as a symbol of Love when a boy presents this to a girl on Valentines day. the 16k + wives symbolically represent the 16k + Nadis in our astral body, just like Ganga Yamuna represent the Ida, Pingal, and Radha represents the Sushumna. regards/Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Vidya, > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna > never had 16108 wives. > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him. > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Vidya > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage > partner- husband/wife? > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > Vidya > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: 12/04/09 > 01:06:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Bhaskar ji; i read somewhere; RaDha is symbolic opposite of DhaRa; dhara symbolises flow away from source;downstream current. and; radha symbolizes flow/journey towards the source.upstream current. Regards Kulbir. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > Whether Lord Krishna had so many wives or not, the puranas say so. Its > upto us to believe them or not. > > As regards to symbolic, the tangible is always there primarily, and the > secondary becomes a symybol. For instance the Rose is always there, > then secondairy its considered as a symbol of Love when a boy presents > this to a girl on Valentines day. > > the 16k + wives symbolically represent the 16k + Nadis in our astral > body, just like Ganga Yamuna represent the Ida, Pingal, and Radha > represents the Sushumna. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Santhosh " > <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vidya, > > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord > Krishna > > never had 16108 wives. > > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in > this > > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned > person on > > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord > did not > > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only > symbolic > > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna > saved > > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with > him. > > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama > etc > > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Vidya > > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your > marriage > > partner- husband/wife? > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been > his > > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas > are > > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: > 12/04/09 > > 01:06:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji, Sir I dont know. I still dont have any Radha in my Life, and also searching for my Dhara. Both ways a failure. regards/Bhaskar. , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Bhaskar ji; > > i read somewhere; RaDha is symbolic opposite of DhaRa; > dhara symbolises flow away from source;downstream current. > and; > radha symbolizes flow/journey towards the source.upstream current. > > Regards > Kulbir. > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > Whether Lord Krishna had so many wives or not, the puranas say so. Its > > upto us to believe them or not. > > > > As regards to symbolic, the tangible is always there primarily, and the > > secondary becomes a symybol. For instance the Rose is always there, > > then secondairy its considered as a symbol of Love when a boy presents > > this to a girl on Valentines day. > > > > the 16k + wives symbolically represent the 16k + Nadis in our astral > > body, just like Ganga Yamuna represent the Ida, Pingal, and Radha > > represents the Sushumna. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " > > <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vidya, > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord > > Krishna > > > never had 16108 wives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in > > this > > > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned > > person on > > > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord > > did not > > > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only > > symbolic > > > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna > > saved > > > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with > > him. > > > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama > > etc > > > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Vidya > > > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > > > > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > > > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your > > marriage > > > partner- husband/wife? > > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been > > his > > > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas > > are > > > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: > > 12/04/09 > > > 01:06:00 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Members, This is what I have learned so far about Radha and Krisha..Vishnav community consider " Radha " to be the queen of heaven, also incarnation of Shri Laxshmi, and Krishna to be Shri Narayan. Radha was krishna's internal companion and loved him with complete and utter faith. There was no one like Radha her love was unique one with complete devotion..While the gopis demanded his physical presence Radha sent him on a mission for " Vishwa Parivartan " . She undertood the world needed him more then her. -Vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > Sir I dont know. I still dont have any Radha in my Life, and also > searching for my Dhara. Both ways a failure. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > , " kulbir " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji; > > > > i read somewhere; RaDha is symbolic opposite of DhaRa; > > dhara symbolises flow away from source;downstream current. > > and; > > radha symbolizes flow/journey towards the source.upstream current. > > > > Regards > > Kulbir. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > Whether Lord Krishna had so many wives or not, the puranas say so. > Its > > > upto us to believe them or not. > > > > > > As regards to symbolic, the tangible is always there primarily, and > the > > > secondary becomes a symybol. For instance the Rose is always there, > > > then secondairy its considered as a symbol of Love when a boy > presents > > > this to a girl on Valentines day. > > > > > > the 16k + wives symbolically represent the 16k + Nadis in our astral > > > body, just like Ganga Yamuna represent the Ida, Pingal, and Radha > > > represents the Sushumna. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " > > > <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vidya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord > > > Krishna > > > > never had 16108 wives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed > in > > > this > > > > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned > > > person on > > > > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the > lord > > > did not > > > > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only > > > symbolic > > > > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that > Krishna > > > saved > > > > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live > with > > > him. > > > > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini > satyabhama > > > etc > > > > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > Vidya > > > > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > > > > > > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your > > > marriage > > > > partner- husband/wife? > > > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have > been > > > his > > > > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and > Gopiyas > > > are > > > > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: > > > 12/04/09 > > > > 01:06:00 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Vidya ji, Thank you so much for this great information and learning you have given us today. Krishna was incarnation of shri Narayan is a good knowledge you have discovered and given us. I was not aware of this fact. But one thing please help me to understand. If Radha was Krishnas internal companion, then who was his external companion. And what is the actual meaning of internal companionship please. thanks once again for discovery of these facts and imparting knowledge to us. regards/Bhaskar. , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > Dear Members, > > This is what I have learned so far about Radha and Krisha..Vishnav community consider " Radha " to be the queen of heaven, also incarnation of Shri Laxshmi, and Krishna to be Shri Narayan. > Radha was krishna's internal companion and loved him with complete and utter faith. There was no one like Radha her love was unique one with complete devotion..While the gopis demanded his physical presence Radha sent him on a mission for " Vishwa Parivartan " . She undertood the world needed him more then her. > > -Vidya > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > Sir I dont know. I still dont have any Radha in my Life, and also > > searching for my Dhara. Both ways a failure. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " kulbir " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji; > > > > > > i read somewhere; RaDha is symbolic opposite of DhaRa; > > > dhara symbolises flow away from source;downstream current. > > > and; > > > radha symbolizes flow/journey towards the source.upstream current. > > > > > > Regards > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > Whether Lord Krishna had so many wives or not, the puranas say so. > > Its > > > > upto us to believe them or not. > > > > > > > > As regards to symbolic, the tangible is always there primarily, and > > the > > > > secondary becomes a symybol. For instance the Rose is always there, > > > > then secondairy its considered as a symbol of Love when a boy > > presents > > > > this to a girl on Valentines day. > > > > > > > > the 16k + wives symbolically represent the 16k + Nadis in our astral > > > > body, just like Ganga Yamuna represent the Ida, Pingal, and Radha > > > > represents the Sushumna. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Santhosh " > > > > <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vidya, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord > > > > Krishna > > > > > never had 16108 wives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed > > in > > > > this > > > > > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned > > > > person on > > > > > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the > > lord > > > > did not > > > > > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only > > > > symbolic > > > > > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that > > Krishna > > > > saved > > > > > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live > > with > > > > him. > > > > > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini > > satyabhama > > > > etc > > > > > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Vidya > > > > > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic > > astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > > > > > > > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your > > > > marriage > > > > > partner- husband/wife? > > > > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have > > been > > > > his > > > > > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and > > Gopiyas > > > > are > > > > > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release Date: > > > > 12/04/09 > > > > > 01:06:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear Santosh Ji, Are you saying the scriptures are a lie and what your Guru said is the truth? In that case even the origins or vedic/ hindu astrology goes back to the scriptures. Do you have faith in that. The scriptures as well as many people like me believe there were 16,108 gopis. The entire Bhagavt is about the relationship with Gopis and the Lord himself. Vidya , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Vidya, > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna > never had 16108 wives. > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him. > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Vidya > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage > partner- husband/wife? > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > Vidya > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release 12/04/09 > 01:06:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Guru? My guru never said anything to me about wives of krishna. What are you talking about. Scriptures are never wrong.There can be only wrong interpretation of scriptures.Have a good nights sleep. Everything will be clear.SanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Vidya" <vidyakmrFri, 04 Dec 2009 15:57:22 -0000 Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology Dear Santosh Ji,Are you saying the scriptures are a lie and what your Guru said is the truth? In that case even the origins or vedic/ hindu astrology goes back to the scriptures. Do you have faith in that.The scriptures as well as many people like me believe there were 16,108 gopis. The entire Bhagavt is about the relationship with Gopis and the Lord himself. Vidya , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Vidya,> > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna> never had 16108 wives.> > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this> forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on> Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not> actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic> representations. I don't remember the details.> > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved> from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him.> Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc> were the 8 bhavas merged into one.> > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Vidya> Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM> > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology> > > > > > Dear Learned Members,> > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage> partner- husband/wife? > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his> soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are> always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani.> > Vidya > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release 12/04/09> 01:06:00> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I apologize I must have misunderstood your statement. Please forgive me..Yes I agree our interpretation always changes the meaning of things. There is a saying in hindi and it goes like this. " jasi dhristi wasi shristi " . So our perception is the key. By the way it's morning at my place. -Vidya , santhosh wrote: > > Guru? My guru never said anything to me about wives of krishna. What are you talking about. > Scriptures are never wrong. > There can be only wrong interpretation of scriptures. > Have a good nights sleep. Everything will be clear. > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr > Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:57:22 > > Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology > > > > Dear Santosh Ji, > > Are you saying the scriptures are a lie and what your Guru said is the truth? In that case even the origins or vedic/ hindu astrology goes back to the scriptures. Do you have faith in that. > The scriptures as well as many people like me believe there were 16,108 gopis. The entire Bhagavt is about the relationship with Gopis and the Lord himself. > > Vidya > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vidya, > > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna > > never had 16108 wives. > > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this > > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on > > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not > > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic > > representations. I don't remember the details. > > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved > > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him. > > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc > > were the 8 bhavas merged into one. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Vidya > > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM > > > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members, > > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage > > partner- husband/wife? > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his > > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are > > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani. > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release 12/04/09 > > 01:06:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Dear vidya,It is alright.You seem to be in the receiving end of many people in the last 24 hours.Yes perceptions and interpretations are important. At the same time context also becomes important and it can alter meanings drastically. Trying to intrerpret out of context is dangerous. One mistake we all do is to interpret our scriptures in our context instead of getting into the minds of people who created it and understanding why they left this legacy for us.GoodmorningSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Vidya" <vidyakmrFri, 04 Dec 2009 16:30:15 -0000 Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology I apologize I must have misunderstood your statement. Please forgive me..Yes I agree our interpretation always changes the meaning of things. There is a saying in hindi and it goes like this. " jasi dhristi wasi shristi " . So our perception is the key. By the way it's morning at my place.-Vidya , santhosh wrote:>> Guru? My guru never said anything to me about wives of krishna. What are you talking about. > Scriptures are never wrong.> There can be only wrong interpretation of scriptures.> Have a good nights sleep. Everything will be clear.> Santhosh> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel> > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr> Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:57:22 > > Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology> > > > Dear Santosh Ji,> > Are you saying the scriptures are a lie and what your Guru said is the truth? In that case even the origins or vedic/ hindu astrology goes back to the scriptures. Do you have faith in that.> The scriptures as well as many people like me believe there were 16,108 gopis. The entire Bhagavt is about the relationship with Gopis and the Lord himself. > > Vidya> > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vidya,> > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna> > never had 16108 wives.> > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this> > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on> > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not> > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic> > representations. I don't remember the details.> > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved> > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him.> > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc> > were the 8 bhavas merged into one.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Vidya> > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM> > > > Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members,> > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage> > partner- husband/wife? > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his> > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are> > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani.> > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release 12/04/09> > 01:06:00> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 The soulmate of the soul is actually the body the soul resides in. It is the body's hunger and other wants that the soul identifies with unless the soul is exalated. The other mates who come along are other bodies who satisfy or have come to satisfy the needs of the respective bodies. So in effect there are no soul mates and it may be erronus on the part of the soul to identify with the body. Best to see things individually.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Fri, 4/12/09, santhosh <santhosh wrote: santhosh <santhoshRe: Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 10:13 PM Dear vidya,It is alright.You seem to be in the receiving end of many people in the last 24 hours.Yes perceptions and interpretations are important. At the same time context also becomes important and it can alter meanings drastically. Trying to intrerpret out of context is dangerous. One mistake we all do is to interpret our scriptures in our context instead of getting into the minds of people who created it and understanding why they left this legacy for us.GoodmorningSanthosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Vidya" <vidyakmr > Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:30:15 -0000 <ancient_indian_ astrology> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology I apologize I must have misunderstood your statement. Please forgive me..Yes I agree our interpretation always changes the meaning of things. There is a saying in hindi and it goes like this. "jasi dhristi wasi shristi". So our perception is the key. By the way it's morning at my place.-Vidyaancient_indian_ astrology, santhosh wrote:>> Guru? My guru never said anything to me about wives of krishna. What are you talking about. > Scriptures are never wrong.> There can be only wrong interpretation of scriptures.> Have a good nights sleep. Everything will be clear.> Santhosh> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel> > > "Vidya" <vidyakmr@.. .>> Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:57:22 > <ancient_indian_ astrology>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology> > > > Dear Santosh Ji,> > Are you saying the scriptures are a lie and what your Guru said is the truth? In that case even the origins or vedic/ hindu astrology goes back to the scriptures. Do you have faith in that.> The scriptures as well as many people like me believe there were 16,108 gopis. The entire Bhagavt is about the relationship with Gopis and the Lord himself. > > Vidya> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vidya,> > > > > > > > Although I am not a Learned member, let me make a statement. Lord Krishna> > never had 16108 wives.> > > > > > > > Yes you have heard to the contrary and the same has been discussed in this> > forum itself. But once I was listening to a discourse by a learned person on> > Bhagvat Gita and he touched upon this subject. He said that the lord did not> > actually have so many wives in physical form and they were only symbolic> > representations. I don't remember the details.> > > > > > > > Further according to the puranas, 16100 wives were fgirls that Krishna saved> > from narakasura who refused to leave Krishna and wanted to live with him.> > Krishna continued to protect them. The eight wives rukmini satyabhama etc> > were the 8 bhavas merged into one.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya> > Friday, December 04, 2009 1:08 AM> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Soulmate in Hindu/ Vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Members,> > > > In vedic astrology are soul mates seen or treated the same as your marriage> > partner- husband/wife? > > If that's the case than Lord Krishna's wife Rukhmani would have been his> > soulmate and not Radha or any of 16,108 gopiya's. Radha and Gopiyas are> > always seen with Krishna and rarely with Rukhmani.> > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.91/2541 - Release 12/04/09> > 01:06:00> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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