Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

[Guest guest]

Dear colleauges,

 

1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

 

Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

 

Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give results

of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

 

Similiar combinations for those interested.

 

2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

 

3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

 

Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2

occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskarji,

 

I would put my bet on the owner of the house. Practically speaking if I and staying in a house owned by me I would have greater influence in the working of the house and people staying in my house.

 

If my father is staying with me ( say the exalted planet) he shall get respect and priority but he may not take a decision however he can advice and his advice may be respected and acted upon but the decision would be mine.

 

D. D. Trivedi--- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Who is more stronger to give the house results ? Date: Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 4:52 PM

Dear colleauges,1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give resultsof that particular house where this combination is placed ?Similiar combinations for those interested.2) Sun and Mars in Aries.3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember abasic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than theowner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.regards/Bhaskar.

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[Guest guest]

dear sri bhaskar,

Owner of the house will always have a steady approach and its effect

will be steady whereas friendly planets coming to houses where they

get exalted show more powers so naturally they are powerful than

the owner of the house. It is like a President of the country visiting ur

house, his visit will attract lot of attention and once he moves out of ur

house that attraction wanes away slowly.

jupiter will be more powerful in Punarpoosam star and then of course

to lesser extent in Poosam and to lesser extent in Ayiliyam compared

to poosam.

sun will be more powerful in kritikka then in venus and then in aswini.

mars will be more powerful in avittam, uthradam and then in Sravanam.

 

Looking forward to ur expertise on this area.

 

regards,

k.gopu--- On Sat, 12/5/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Who is more stronger to give the house results ? Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM

Dear colleauges,1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give resultsof that particular house where this combination is placed ?Similiar combinations for those interested.2) Sun and Mars in Aries.3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember abasic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than theowner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.regards/Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Gopu ji and Shri Dushyant ji,

 

Thanks for your views. I have been taught by My Guru to treat the

Exalted planet as the more stronger planet to induce results of the

house which it occupies.

 

But Shri Dushyant jis explanations also sound convincing. Here we can

probably counter the argument by saying that I may be the owner of my

house, but if My Maternal Uncle whom I respect very much and who is also

very well placed wordly wise and a very successful person, if he comes

to stay at my place and suggests remedies to be done in my house, like

replacing my old Oven with a Microwave one, or my normal TV with a LCD ,

or removing some furniture or replacing some other object, or shifting

some objects etc,etc, I will have to listen to him out of respect and

love for him. In other words he would be more powerful to dictate to me

in my own House and I may be subserveint to him.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24

wrote:

>

> dear sri bhaskar,

> Owner of the house will always have a steady approach and its

effect

> will be steady whereas friendly planets coming to houses where they

> get exalted show more powers so naturally they are powerful than

> the owner of the house. It is like a President of the country visiting

ur

> house, his visit will attract lot of attention and once he moves out

of ur

> house that attraction wanes away slowly.

> jupiter will be more powerful in Punarpoosam star and then of course

> to lesser extent in Poosam and to lesser extent in Ayiliyam compared

> to poosam.

> sun will be more powerful in kritikka then in venus and then in

aswini.

> mars will be more powerful in avittam, uthradam and then in Sravanam.

> Â

> Looking forward to ur expertise on this area.

> Â

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

> --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Who is more stronger to give the

house results ?

>

> Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

> Dear colleauges,

>

> 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

results

> of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2

> occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

owner.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted" state BUT is not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and relax.

 

So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give "stronger" results, those results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.

 

However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question is "which planet will give stonger results for that particular house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its own house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

Dear colleauges,1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give resultsof that particular house where this combination is placed ?Similiar combinations for those interested.2) Sun and Mars in Aries.3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember abasic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than theowner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.regards/Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,With due respect to all the views given by respected members,I present below my humble opinion :JUPITER AND MOON IN CANCER Results of Jupiter will ALSO depend upon the Strength of Moon. Moon being dispositor of Jupiter in this case.E.g - If Moon is weak, this will weaken Jupiter also.However, Moon in such a case is not dependent on the strength of Jupiter.Best Regards,Deepak SharmaBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 10:24:44 PM Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

Dear Shri Gopu ji and Shri Dushyant ji,

 

Thanks for your views. I have been taught by My Guru to treat the

Exalted planet as the more stronger planet to induce results of the

house which it occupies.

 

But Shri Dushyant jis explanations also sound convincing. Here we can

probably counter the argument by saying that I may be the owner of my

house, but if My Maternal Uncle whom I respect very much and who is also

very well placed wordly wise and a very successful person, if he comes

to stay at my place and suggests remedies to be done in my house, like

replacing my old Oven with a Microwave one, or my normal TV with a LCD ,

or removing some furniture or replacing some other object, or shifting

some objects etc,etc, I will have to listen to him out of respect and

love for him. In other words he would be more powerful to dictate to me

in my own House and I may be subserveint to him.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .>

wrote:

>

> dear sri bhaskar,

> Owner of the house will always have a steady approach and its

effect

> will be steady whereas friendly planets coming to houses where they

> get exalted show more powers so naturally they are powerful than

> the owner of the house. It is like a President of the country visiting

ur

> house, his visit will attract lot of attention and once he moves out

of ur

> house that attraction wanes away slowly.

> jupiter will be more powerful in Punarpoosam star and then of course

> to lesser extent in Poosam and to lesser extent in Ayiliyam compared

> to poosam.

> sun will be more powerful in kritikka then in venus and then in

aswini.

> mars will be more powerful in avittam, uthradam and then in Sravanam.

> Â

> Looking forward to ur expertise on this area.

> Â

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

> --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give the

house results ?

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

> Dear colleauges,

>

> 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

results

> of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2

> occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

owner.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Manoj ji,

 

I must agree with you.

 

At the same time,will also put further views on this.

 

I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having some

arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no money and learnt

driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not have any money on him,

managed to stay for few months away from home. Of course during this time he was

looked after by me to some extent whatever was possible from me as a

teenager.His father knowing that I was his fast friend, called upon me at my

residence from where he got a good verbal whacking from my father and left

disheartened. I then decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with

his father, his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if

they could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they stayed

happily together for n number of years.

 

That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago, hisbfather

again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to seperate and move to

another office , and let his son be in the old one. This was done.

 

I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as well as

Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28 years or so.

 

Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was just a

hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in Bombay. He is my good

friend today too. His father yill he was alive loved me like a son, was ever

ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when he was alive and when i was looking

for a small office near my house and sort of deposit money. They have loved me

and respected me all the way. He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party

with, MAKE SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

 

So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status there and

can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views aloud.

 

They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends father was

just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and wise man.

 

They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and supplying to all

carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private Corporates and PSU's and

govt sectors.

 

Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of communication and

adjustment with their father, and so had I .

 

Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail). during

last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver Rotis to gau Mata

and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near my friends house, and I

remembered and called him on his cell, and asked him whether did he do the

necessary customary rituals on his fathers shradha, and he said " No I forgot.

His date of death is over.Now its too late I feel so bad about this " I asked

him about the date of his fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and

luckily it was the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed

this to him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

 

In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father place.

 

But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

 

Love and regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted " state BUT is not at home. It

is like this: When we go to a party that is very exciting and enthralling, we

are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a

Graha that is at home, is at peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the

chair and relax.

>

> So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house rather than an

exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should not be afflicted or else

we have a double whammy). So in conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give

" stronger " results, those results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A

planet in its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.

>

> However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted planet is

indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in his own house.

So in this specific case, we can expect the exalted planet to indeed give

strong results, however, if the question is  " which planet will give stonger

results for that particular house " , then I would have to say it is the planet

in its own house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> Who is more stronger to give the house

results ?

>

>  

>

> Dear colleauges,

>

> 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give results

> of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2

> occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Deepak ji,

 

On what basis and grounds can the Moon become weak here. Please explain.

this will be a good learning for all of us.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> With due respect to all the views given by respected members,

> I present below my humble opinion :

> JUPITER AND MOON IN CANCER

> Results of Jupiter will ALSO depend upon the Strength of Moon.

> Moon being dispositor of Jupiter in this case.

> E.g - If Moon is weak, this will weaken Jupiter also.

> However, Moon in such a case is not dependent on the strength of

Jupiter.

>

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Sat, December 5, 2009 10:24:44 PM

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

>

>

> Dear Shri Gopu ji and Shri Dushyant ji,

>

> Thanks for your views. I have been taught by My Guru to treat the

> Exalted planet as the more stronger planet to induce results of the

> house which it occupies.

>

> But Shri Dushyant jis explanations also sound convincing. Here we can

> probably counter the argument by saying that I may be the owner of my

> house, but if My Maternal Uncle whom I respect very much and who is

also

> very well placed wordly wise and a very successful person, if he comes

> to stay at my place and suggests remedies to be done in my house, like

> replacing my old Oven with a Microwave one, or my normal TV with a LCD

,

> or removing some furniture or replacing some other object, or shifting

> some objects etc,etc, I will have to listen to him out of respect and

> love for him. In other words he would be more powerful to dictate to

me

> in my own House and I may be subserveint to him.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu kgopu_24@

..>

> wrote:

> >

> > dear sri bhaskar,

> > Owner of the house will always have a steady approach and its

> effect

> > will be steady whereas friendly planets coming to houses where they

> > get exalted show more powers so naturally they are powerful than

> > the owner of the house. It is like a President of the country

visiting

> ur

> > house, his visit will attract lot of attention and once he moves out

> of ur

> > house that attraction wanes away slowly.

> > jupiter will be more powerful in Punarpoosam star and then of course

> > to lesser extent in Poosam and to lesser extent in Ayiliyam compared

> > to poosam.

> > sun will be more powerful in kritikka then in venus and then in

> aswini.

> > mars will be more powerful in avittam, uthradam and then in

Sravanam.

> > Â

> > Looking forward to ur expertise on this area.

> > Â

> > regards,

> > k.gopu

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

the

> house results ?

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> >

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> results

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

2

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

> owner.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,Such a Moon may be-combust (even if Sun is placed in other house)not bright (if not combust)in infancy or old ageafflicted by other malefics / nodesLoosing power in NavamsaBest Regards,Deepak SharmaBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 10:55:28 PM Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

Dear Deepak ji,

 

On what basis and grounds can the Moon become weak here. Please explain.

this will be a good learning for all of us.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> With due respect to all the views given by respected members,

> I present below my humble opinion :

> JUPITER AND MOON IN CANCER

> Results of Jupiter will ALSO depend upon the Strength of Moon.

> Moon being dispositor of Jupiter in this case.

> E.g - If Moon is weak, this will weaken Jupiter also.

> However, Moon in such a case is not dependent on the strength of

Jupiter.

>

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sat, December 5, 2009 10:24:44 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

>

>

> Dear Shri Gopu ji and Shri Dushyant ji,

>

> Thanks for your views. I have been taught by My Guru to treat the

> Exalted planet as the more stronger planet to induce results of the

> house which it occupies.

>

> But Shri Dushyant jis explanations also sound convincing. Here we can

> probably counter the argument by saying that I may be the owner of my

> house, but if My Maternal Uncle whom I respect very much and who is

also

> very well placed wordly wise and a very successful person, if he comes

> to stay at my place and suggests remedies to be done in my house, like

> replacing my old Oven with a Microwave one, or my normal TV with a LCD

,

> or removing some furniture or replacing some other object, or shifting

> some objects etc,etc, I will have to listen to him out of respect and

> love for him. In other words he would be more powerful to dictate to

me

> in my own House and I may be subserveint to him.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu kgopu_24@

..>

> wrote:

> >

> > dear sri bhaskar,

> > Owner of the house will always have a steady approach and its

> effect

> > will be steady whereas friendly planets coming to houses where they

> > get exalted show more powers so naturally they are powerful than

> > the owner of the house. It is like a President of the country

visiting

> ur

> > house, his visit will attract lot of attention and once he moves out

> of ur

> > house that attraction wanes away slowly.

> > jupiter will be more powerful in Punarpoosam star and then of course

> > to lesser extent in Poosam and to lesser extent in Ayiliyam compared

> > to poosam.

> > sun will be more powerful in kritikka then in venus and then in

> aswini.

> > mars will be more powerful in avittam, uthradam and then in

Sravanam.

> > Â

> > Looking forward to ur expertise on this area.

> > Â

> > regards,

> > k.gopu

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

the

> house results ?

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> >

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> results

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

2

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

> owner.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Deepak ji,

 

Thank You for this. This will help many.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

, deepak sharma

<deepak_rptech wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> Such a Moon may be-

> * combust (even if Sun is placed in other house)

> * not bright (if not combust)

>

> * in infancy or old age

> * afflicted by other malefics / nodes

> * Loosing power in Navamsa

> Best Regards,

> Deepak Sharma

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Sat, December 5, 2009 10:55:28 PM

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

>

>

> Dear Deepak ji,

>

> On what basis and grounds can the Moon become weak here. Please

explain.

> this will be a good learning for all of us.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, deepak sharma

> <deepak_rptech@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > With due respect to all the views given by respected members,

> > I present below my humble opinion :

> > JUPITER AND MOON IN CANCER

> > Results of Jupiter will ALSO depend upon the Strength of Moon.

> > Moon being dispositor of Jupiter in this case.

> > E.g - If Moon is weak, this will weaken Jupiter also.

> > However, Moon in such a case is not dependent on the strength of

> Jupiter.

> >

> > Best Regards,

> > Deepak Sharma

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 10:24:44 PM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to

give

> the house results ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Gopu ji and Shri Dushyant ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your views. I have been taught by My Guru to treat the

> > Exalted planet as the more stronger planet to induce results of the

> > house which it occupies.

> >

> > But Shri Dushyant jis explanations also sound convincing. Here we

can

> > probably counter the argument by saying that I may be the owner of

my

> > house, but if My Maternal Uncle whom I respect very much and who is

> also

> > very well placed wordly wise and a very successful person, if he

comes

> > to stay at my place and suggests remedies to be done in my house,

like

> > replacing my old Oven with a Microwave one, or my normal TV with a

LCD

> ,

> > or removing some furniture or replacing some other object, or

shifting

> > some objects etc,etc, I will have to listen to him out of respect

and

> > love for him. In other words he would be more powerful to dictate to

> me

> > in my own House and I may be subserveint to him.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu kgopu_24@

> .>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > dear sri bhaskar,

> > > Owner of the house will always have a steady approach

and its

> > effect

> > > will be steady whereas friendly planets coming to houses where

they

> > > get exalted show more powers so naturally they are powerful than

> > > the owner of the house. It is like a President of the country

> visiting

> > ur

> > > house, his visit will attract lot of attention and once he moves

out

> > of ur

> > > house that attraction wanes away slowly.

> > > jupiter will be more powerful in Punarpoosam star and then of

course

> > > to lesser extent in Poosam and to lesser extent in Ayiliyam

compared

> > > to poosam.

> > > sun will be more powerful in kritikka then in venus and then in

> > aswini.

> > > mars will be more powerful in avittam, uthradam and then in

> Sravanam.

> > > Â

> > > Looking forward to ur expertise on this area.

> > > Â

> > > regards,

> > > k.gopu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 12/5/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

> the

> > house results ?

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Saturday, December 5, 2009, 4:52 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear colleauges,

> > >

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> > >

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> > >

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> > results

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> > >

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> > >

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> > >

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> > >

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember

a

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

> 2

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

> > owner.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

And Yes, now for some humour and seriousness mixed. Those who remain my

friends always achieve a high and wealthy status in Life. My 11th house

is Gemini with Mercury (retro and combust) in it and Sun in close

degreecal conjunction. So thats the reason.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

> I must agree with you.

>

> At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

> I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having

some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not

have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of

course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a

good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father,

his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

> That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one.

This was done.

>

> I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

years or so.

>

> Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when

he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and

sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way.

He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

>

> So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

aloud.

>

> They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and

wise man.

>

> They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

> Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

> Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail).

during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near

my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked

him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

>

> In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father

place.

>

> But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

> Love and regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran

chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted " state BUT is not

at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very

exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are

not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace,

is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and relax.

> >

> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should

not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion,

while an Exalted planet might give " stronger " results, those results may

not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in its own house

gives a more consistent benificial results that is long standing. But

this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.

> >

> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the

exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

is " which planet will give stonger results for that particular

house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own house.

Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> >

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> > Who is more stronger to give the

house results ?

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> >

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

results

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

2

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

owner.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yes, you are correct, there are exceptions as you have rightly pointed out. This is why in astrology experience matters a lot and the fact your teacher told you that exalted planet will dominate may have practical truth which he may have found over the years.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 10:23:39 AM Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

Dear Shri Manoj ji,I must agree with you. At the same time,will also put further views on this.I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father, his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they stayed

happily together for n number of years.That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago, hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one. This was done. I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28 years or so. Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way. He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented

with immediately without a word.So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views aloud. They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and wise man. They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors. Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail). during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked him whether did he do

the necessary customary rituals on his fathers shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its too late I feel so bad about this" I asked him about the date of his fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers name,going to temple etc. In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father place.But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,Love and regards,Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted"

state BUT is not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and relax.> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give "stronger" results, those results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very

strong in his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question is "which planet will give stonger results for that particular house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its own house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give the house results ?> >  > > Dear colleauges,>

> 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give results> of that particular house where this combination is placed ?> > Similiar combinations for those interested.> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a> basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the> owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2> occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.> > regards/Bhaskar.>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best combination of all. As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father, 3) 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st house. Why ?Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ? Date: Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

 

 

Dear Shri Manoj ji,

 

I must agree with you.

 

At the same time,will also put further views on this.

 

I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father, his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they stayed happily together for n number of years.

 

That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago, hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one. This was done.

 

I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28 years or so.

 

Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way. He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately without a word.

 

So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views aloud.

 

They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and wise man.

 

They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

 

Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

 

Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail). during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its too late I feel so bad about this" I asked him about the date of his fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers name,going to temple etc.

 

In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father place.

 

But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

 

Love and regards,

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted" state BUT is not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and relax.

>

> So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give "stronger" results, those results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.

>

> However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question is "which planet will give stonger results for that particular house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its own house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> Â

> Regards,

> Â -Manoj

> Â

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

>

> Â

>

> Dear colleauges,

>

> 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give results

> of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2

> occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

 

 

 

 

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

[Guest guest]

Bhaskarji Namaskar,

Your experience almost confirms the Puranic story I read in the first

astrological book as to why planets are allocated particular houses and why they

get exalted in particular houses.

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yes, you are correct, there are

exceptions as you have rightly pointed out. This is why in astrology experience

matters a lot and the fact your teacher told you that exalted planet will

dominate may have practical truth which he may have found over the years.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Sat, December 5, 2009 10:23:39 AM

> Re: Who is more stronger to give the house

results ?

>

>  

> Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

> I must agree with you.

>

> At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

> I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having some

arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no money and learnt

driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not have any money on him,

managed to stay for few months away from home. Of course during this time he was

looked after by me to some extent whatever was possible from me as a

teenager.His father knowing that I was his fast friend, called upon me at my

residence from where he got a good verbal whacking from my father and left

disheartened. I then decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with

his father, his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if

they could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they stayed

happily together for n number of years.

>

> That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago, hisbfather

again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to seperate and move to

another office , and let his son be in the old one. This was done.

>

> I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as well as

Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28 years or so.

>

> Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was just a

hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in Bombay. He is my good

friend today too. His father yill he was alive loved me like a son, was ever

ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when he was alive and when i was looking

for a small office near my house and sort of deposit money. They have loved me

and respected me all the way. He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party

with, MAKE SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

>

> So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status there and

can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views aloud.

>

> They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends father was

just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and wise man.

>

> They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and supplying to

all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private Corporates and PSU's and

govt sectors.

>

> Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of communication and

adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

> Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail). during

last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver Rotis to gau Mata

and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near my friends house, and I

remembered and called him on his cell, and asked him whether did he do the

necessary customary rituals on his fathers shradha, and he said " No I forgot.

His date of death is over.Now its too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him

about the date of his fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and

luckily it was the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed

this to him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

>

> In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father place.

>

> But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

> Love and regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted " state BUT is not at

home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very exciting and

enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are not at home and

peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace, is going to lift its

legs, put them on the chair and relax.

> >

> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house rather than

an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should not be afflicted or

else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion, while an Exalted planet

might give " stronger " results, those results may not be sustainable over

the long haul. A planet in its own house gives a more consistent benificial

results that is long standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted

and Swa rashi planets.

> >

> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted planet is

indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in his own house.

So in this specific case, we can expect the exalted planet to indeed give

strong results, however, if the question is  " which planet will give stonger

results for that particular house " , then I would have to say it is the planet

in its own house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give the house

results ?

> >

> >  

> >

> > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> >

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give results

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you 2

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the owner.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Anita ji,

 

Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

son.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Anita R <ash.rsh55

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

combination of all.

> As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father, 3)

9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

house. Why ?

> Regards,

> Anita

>

> --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

> Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

>

Â

>

>

>

Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

>

>

> I must agree with you.

>

>

>

> At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

>

>

> I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having

some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not

have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of

course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a

good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father,

his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

>

>

> That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one.

This was done.

>

>

>

> I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

years or so.

>

>

>

> Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when

he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and

sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way.

He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

>

>

>

> So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

aloud.

>

>

>

> They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and

wise man.

>

>

>

> They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

>

>

> Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

>

>

> Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail).

during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near

my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked

him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

>

>

>

> In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father

place.

>

>

>

> But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

>

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> >

>

> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted " state BUT is

not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT

we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at

peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

relax.

>

> >

>

> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give " stronger " results, those

results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi

planets.

>

> >

>

> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the

exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

is " which planet will give stonger results for that particular

house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Regards,

>

> >  -Manoj

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

> >

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > Dear colleauges,

>

> >

>

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> >

>

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> >

>

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

results

>

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> >

>

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> >

>

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> >

>

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> >

>

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

>

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

>

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

2

>

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

owner.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the additional info. Always welcome. I understood the logic behind this but why retro saturn causes problems with father? Regards,Anita--- On Sun, 6/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ? Date: Sunday, 6 December, 2009, 6:47 AM

 

 

 

Dear Anita ji,

 

Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

son.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

combination of all.

> As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father, 3)

9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

house. Why ?

> Regards,

> Anita

>

> --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

>

Â

>

>

>

Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

>

>

> I must agree with you.

>

>

>

> At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

>

>

> I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having

some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not

have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of

course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a

good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father,

his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

>

>

> That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one.

This was done.

>

>

>

> I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

years or so.

>

>

>

> Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when

he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and

sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way.

He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

>

>

>

> So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

aloud.

>

>

>

> They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and

wise man.

>

>

>

> They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

>

>

> Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

>

>

> Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail).

during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near

my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked

him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

too late I feel so bad about this" I asked him about the date of his

fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

>

>

>

> In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father

place.

>

>

>

> But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

>

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> >

>

> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted" state BUT is

not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT

we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at

peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

relax.

>

> >

>

> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give "stronger" results, those

results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi

planets.

>

> >

>

> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the

exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

is "which planet will give stonger results for that particular

house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Regards,

>

> >  -Manoj

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

> >

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > Dear colleauges,

>

> >

>

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> >

>

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> >

>

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

results

>

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> >

>

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> >

>

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> >

>

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> >

>

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

>

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

>

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

2

>

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

owner.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

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>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Anita ji,

 

Theres a very good book from an English writer on this, not available in

india. Being away from Bombay I cannot give you the name of the same. It

explains very well the why of the same. I may not be able to do it. But

it was a perfect ditto experience of my own Life and relations with my

own Father, when I read it, and it played the story as a reel from a

movie.

 

I will give you the name of the book when I reach Bombay.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

, Anita R <ash.rsh55

wrote:

>

> Thanks for the additional info. Always welcome. I understood the logic

behind this but why retro saturn causes problems with father?

> Regards,

> Anita

>

> --- On Sun, 6/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

> Sunday, 6 December, 2009, 6:47 AM

>

Â

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Anita ji,

>

>

>

> Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

>

> badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

>

> contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

>

> son.

>

>

>

> best wishes,

>

>

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@

...>

>

> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> > very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

>

> combination of all.

>

> > As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

>

> with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father,

3)

>

> 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

>

> combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

>

> person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

>

> house. Why ?

>

> > Regards,

>

> > Anita

>

> >

>

> > --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to

give

>

> the house results ?

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I must agree with you.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

>

> some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

>

> money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did

not

>

> have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home.

Of

>

> course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

>

> whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

>

> was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got

a

>

> good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

>

> decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his

father,

>

> his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

>

> could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and

the

>

> boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

>

> stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

>

> hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

>

> seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old

one.

>

> This was done.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

>

> well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

>

> years or so.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

>

> just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

>

> Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

>

> loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me

when

>

> he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house

and

>

> sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the

way.

>

> He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

>

> SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

>

> without a word.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

>

> there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

>

> aloud.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

>

> father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest

and

>

> wise man.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

>

> supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

>

> Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

>

> communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

>

> during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

>

> Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was

near

>

> my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and

asked

>

> him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

>

> shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

>

> too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

>

> fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

>

> the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

>

> him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

>

> name,going to temple etc.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

>

> place.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Love and regards,

>

> >

>

> > Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

>

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted "

state BUT is

>

> not at home. It is like this: When we go

to a party that

>

> is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing,

BUT

>

> we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is

at

>

> peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair

and

>

> relax.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

>

> rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa

Graha

>

> should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So

inÂÂ

>

> conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give " stronger " results,

those

>

> results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A

planet in

>

> its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

>

> standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa

rashi

>

> planets.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

>

> planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

>

> his own house. So in this specific case,

we can expect the

>

> exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

>

> is " which planet will give stonger results for that

particular

>

> house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its

own

>

> house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

>

> >

>

> > > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > > Regards,

>

> >

>

> > >  -Manoj

>

> >

>

> > > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> >

>

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

>

> >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> >

>

> > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

>

> >

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

>

> the house results ?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Dear colleauges,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

>

> results

>

> >

>

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember

a

>

> >

>

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

>

> >

>

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

>

> 2

>

> >

>

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

>

> owner.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

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Thanks Bhaskar ji,It is the same case with me. that is why I asked. If you don;t send me the name within a couple of months, I will remind you.Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 6/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ? Date: Sunday, 6 December, 2009, 7:03 AM

 

 

 

Dear Anita ji,

 

Theres a very good book from an English writer on this, not available in

india. Being away from Bombay I cannot give you the name of the same. It

explains very well the why of the same. I may not be able to do it. But

it was a perfect ditto experience of my own Life and relations with my

own Father, when I read it, and it played the story as a reel from a

movie.

 

I will give you the name of the book when I reach Bombay.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Thanks for the additional info. Always welcome. I understood the logic

behind this but why retro saturn causes problems with father?

> Regards,

> Anita

>

> --- On Sun, 6/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sunday, 6 December, 2009, 6:47 AM

>

Â

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Anita ji,

>

>

>

> Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

>

> badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

>

> contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

>

> son.

>

>

>

> best wishes,

>

>

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R ash.rsh55@

...>

>

> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> > very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

>

> combination of all.

>

> > As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

>

> with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father,

3)

>

> 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

>

> combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

>

> person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

>

> house. Why ?

>

> > Regards,

>

> > Anita

>

> >

>

> > --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to

give

>

> the house results ?

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I must agree with you.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

>

> some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

>

> money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did

not

>

> have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home.

Of

>

> course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

>

> whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

>

> was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got

a

>

> good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

>

> decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his

father,

>

> his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

>

> could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and

the

>

> boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

>

> stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

>

> hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

>

> seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old

one.

>

> This was done.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

>

> well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

>

> years or so.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

>

> just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

>

> Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

>

> loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me

when

>

> he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house

and

>

> sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the

way.

>

> He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

>

> SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

>

> without a word.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

>

> there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

>

> aloud.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

>

> father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest

and

>

> wise man.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

>

> supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

>

> Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

>

> communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

>

> during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

>

> Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was

near

>

> my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and

asked

>

> him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

>

> shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

>

> too late I feel so bad about this" I asked him about the date of his

>

> fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

>

> the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

>

> him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

>

> name,going to temple etc.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

>

> place.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Love and regards,

>

> >

>

> > Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

>

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted"

state BUT is

>

> not at home. It is like this: When we go

to a party that

>

> is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing,

BUT

>

> we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is

at

>

> peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair

and

>

> relax.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

>

> rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa

Graha

>

> should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So

inÂÂ

>

> conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give "stronger" results,

those

>

> results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A

planet in

>

> its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

>

> standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa

rashi

>

> planets.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

>

> planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

>

> his own house. So in this specific case,

we can expect the

>

> exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

>

> is "which planet will give stonger results for that

particular

>

> house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its

own

>

> house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

>

> >

>

> > > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > > Regards,

>

> >

>

> > >  -Manoj

>

> >

>

> > > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> >

>

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

>

> >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> >

>

> > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

>

> >

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

>

> the house results ?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Dear colleauges,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

>

> results

>

> >

>

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember

a

>

> >

>

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

>

> >

>

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

>

> 2

>

> >

>

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

>

> owner.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

>

> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

>

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskarji,

 

In my chart, I have retrograde Saturn in 9th

house for cancer lagna and sun in lagna. My relationship with my father has

been excellent.

I have Combust Jupiter + Mercury also in

lagna and Jupiter is aspecting 9th house. Could this be the reason

according to you?

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Sunday, December 06, 2009

12:18 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Anita ji,

 

Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

son.

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

,

Anita R <ash.rsh55

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

combination of all.

> As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father, 3)

9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

house. Why ?

> Regards,

> Anita

>

> --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

> Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

>

Â

>

>

>

Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

>

>

> I must agree with you.

>

>

>

> At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

>

>

> I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having

some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not

have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of

course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a

good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father,

his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

>

>

> That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one.

This was done.

>

>

>

> I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

years or so.

>

>

>

> Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

Bombay. He is

my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when

he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and

sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way.

He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

>

>

>

> So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

aloud.

>

>

>

> They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay

for last 40 years. My friends

father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and

wise man.

>

>

>

> They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

>

>

> Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

>

>

> Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail).

during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near

my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked

him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

>

>

>

> In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father

place.

>

>

>

> But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

>

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> >

>

> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted "

state BUT is

not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT

we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at

peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

relax.

>

> >

>

> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give " stronger " results,

those

results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi

planets.

>

> >

>

> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the

exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

is " which planet will give stonger results for that particular

house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> > Regards,

>

> >  -Manoj

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

the house results ?

>

> >

>

> > ÂÂ

>

> >

>

> > Dear colleauges,

>

> >

>

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

>

> >

>

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

>

> >

>

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

results

>

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

>

> >

>

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

>

> >

>

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

>

> >

>

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

>

> >

>

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

>

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

>

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

2

>

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

owner.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Santosh ji,

 

You have got one of the finest combknations one could hope for with

regards to Jupiter and the Sun.

 

Relationships with father may not exactly be seen in light of actual

meaning of the word. This may also mean that one could not have received

what was expected from father, in full as per expectations. It may also

manifest in father and Son staying away from each other. It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. Such matters are not easy for one to disclose, so

mostly we do not have these facts in the open, for a Saturn retrograde.

 

You may have felt any of these in lesser measures or not felt at all

probably (You know better), due to Jupiter exalted as the 9th Lord and

also aspecting the 9th, and with the Sun, imparting sattvic Guna to the

Lagna as well as the karaka for father- the Sun.

 

regards,'

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Santhosh "

<santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

>

>

> In my chart, I have retrograde Saturn in 9th house for cancer lagna

and sun

> in lagna. My relationship with my father has been excellent.

>

> I have Combust Jupiter + Mercury also in lagna and Jupiter is

aspecting 9th

> house. Could this be the reason according to you?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:18 PM

>

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the

> house results ?

Dear Anita ji,

>

> Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

> badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

> contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

> son.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology , Anita R ash.rsh55@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

> combination of all.

> > As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

> with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father,

3)

> 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

> combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

> person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

> house. Why ?

> > Regards,

> > Anita

> >

> > --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > Re: Who is more stronger to give

> the house results ?

> > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology

> > Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I must agree with you.

> >

> >

> >

> > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

> some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

> money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did

not

> have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home.

Of

> course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

> whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

> was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got

a

> good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

> decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his

father,

> his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

> could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and

the

> boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

> stayed happily together for n number of years.

> >

> >

> >

> > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

> hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

> seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old

one.

> This was done.

> >

> >

> >

> > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

> well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

> years or so.

> >

> >

> >

> > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

> just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

> Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

> loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me

when

> he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house

and

> sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the

way.

> He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

> SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

> without a word.

> >

> >

> >

> > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

> there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

> aloud.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

> father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest

and

> wise man.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

> supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

> Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

> >

> >

> >

> > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

> communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

> >

> >

> >

> > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

> during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

> Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was

near

> my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and

asked

> him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

> shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

> too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

> fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

> the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

> him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

> name,going to temple etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

> place.

> >

> >

> >

> > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted " state BUT

is

> not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

> is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing,

BUT

> we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is

at

> peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

> relax.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

> rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

> should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

> conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give " stronger " results,

those

> results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

> its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

> standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa

rashi

> planets.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

> planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

> his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect

the

> exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

> is " which planet will give stonger results for that particular

> house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

> house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > >  -Manoj

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to give

> the house results ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> results

> >

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember

a

> >

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

> >

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

> 2

> >

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

> owner.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. <http://in./> com/

> >

>

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Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Thanks for going through. Yes having sun

and Jupiter in cancer rashi is very good provided it is not with any other

blemishes. My Jupiter is Neecha (Capri) in

Navamsha and it is just one degree from sun making it severely combust.

 

During my Ju Dasa, which is going on now

and will last till 2014, the first half was very good, though not without

struggles. The second half has given me lots of name and taken away all my

wealth.

 

//It may also manifest in father and Son staying away from each other.

It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. //

 

When I was a child, school days, my father was a strict disciplinarian

and was very particular about my performance in school, courtesy Me+ Ju in

Cancer Lagna and Me in Virgo in Navamsha, I was able to satisfy my father.

However, later on as I grew bigger, he would leave everything to my

like, and ofcourse I have not disappointed him and he doesn’t try to

enforce his wishes and in any ways is much meeker than how he was initially. So

no comparison there. But yes, we have mostly stayed away as when he was

working, he was away on work during a major part and later when I got job I have

always worked away from home, that way staying away from mother also.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Monday, December 07, 2009

4:10 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

You have got one of the finest combknations one could hope for with

regards to Jupiter and the Sun.

 

Relationships with father may not exactly be seen in light of actual

meaning of the word. This may also mean that one could not have received

what was expected from father, in full as per expectations. It may also

manifest in father and Son staying away from each other. It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. Such matters are not easy for one to disclose, so

mostly we do not have these facts in the open, for a Saturn retrograde.

 

You may have felt any of these in lesser measures or not felt at all

probably (You know better), due to Jupiter exalted as the 9th Lord and

also aspecting the 9th, and with the Sun, imparting sattvic Guna to the

Lagna as well as the karaka for father- the Sun.

 

regards,'

 

Bhaskar.

 

,

" Santhosh "

<santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

>

>

> In my chart, I have retrograde Saturn in 9th house for cancer lagna

and sun

> in lagna. My relationship with my father has been excellent.

>

> I have Combust Jupiter + Mercury also in lagna and Jupiter is

aspecting 9th

> house. Could this be the reason according to you?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:18 PM

>

> Re: Who is more stronger to give

the

> house results ?

Dear Anita ji,

>

> Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

> badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

> contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

> son.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology ,

Anita R ash.rsh55@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

> combination of all.

> > As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

> with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father,

3)

> 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

> combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

> person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

> house. Why ?

> > Regards,

> > Anita

> >

> > --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > Re: Who is more stronger to

give

> the house results ?

> > ancient_indian_

<%40>

> astrology

> > Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I must agree with you.

> >

> >

> >

> > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

> some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

> money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did

not

> have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home.

Of

> course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

> whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

> was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got

a

> good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

> decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his

father,

> his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

> could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and

the

> boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

> stayed happily together for n number of years.

> >

> >

> >

> > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

> hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

> seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old

one.

> This was done.

> >

> >

> >

> > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

> well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

> years or so.

> >

> >

> >

> > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

> just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

> Bombay. He

is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

> loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me

when

> he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house

and

> sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the

way.

> He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

> SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

> without a word.

> >

> >

> >

> > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

> there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

> aloud.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay

for last 40 years. My friends

> father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest

and

> wise man.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

> supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

> Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

> >

> >

> >

> > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

> communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

> >

> >

> >

> > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

> during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

> Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was

near

> my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and

asked

> him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

> shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

> too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

> fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

> the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

> him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

> name,going to temple etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

> place.

> >

> >

> >

> > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted "

state BUT

is

> not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

> is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing,

BUT

> we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is

at

> peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

> relax.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

> rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

> should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

> conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give " stronger "

results,

those

> results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

> its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

> standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa

rashi

> planets.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

> planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

> his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect

the

> exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

> is " which planet will give stonger results for that

particular

> house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

> house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > >  -Manoj

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to

give

> the house results ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any

horoscope.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> results

> >

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and

remember

a

> >

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

> >

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

> 2

> >

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is

the

> owner.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. <http://in./> com/

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Santhosh Ji,Such a jupiter (even if exalted in Natal) may adversely effect family life /wealth / status of native during its dasha.Though other factors should also be considered. Thank you.Best Regards,Deepak SharmaSanthosh <santhosh Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 6:09:41 PMRE: Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar Ji, Thanks for going through. Yes having sun

and Jupiter in cancer rashi is very good provided it is not with any other

blemishes. My Jupiter is Neecha ( Capri ) in

Navamsha and it is just one degree from sun making it severely combust. During my Ju Dasa, which is going on now

and will last till 2014, the first half was very good, though not without

struggles. The second half has given me lots of name and taken away all my

wealth. //It may also manifest in father and Son staying away from each other.

It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. // When I was a child, school days, my father was a strict disciplinarian

and was very particular about my performance in school, courtesy Me+ Ju in

Cancer Lagna and Me in Virgo in Navamsha, I was able to satisfy my father. However, later on as I grew bigger, he would leave everything to my

like, and ofcourse I have not disappointed him and he doesn’t try to

enforce his wishes and in any ways is much meeker than how he was initially. So

no comparison there. But yes, we have mostly stayed away as when he was

working, he was away on work during a major part and later when I got job I have

always worked away from home, that way staying away from mother also. Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Monday, December 07, 2009

4:10 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

You have got one of the finest combknations one could hope for with

regards to Jupiter and the Sun.

 

Relationships with father may not exactly be seen in light of actual

meaning of the word. This may also mean that one could not have received

what was expected from father, in full as per expectations. It may also

manifest in father and Son staying away from each other. It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. Such matters are not easy for one to disclose, so

mostly we do not have these facts in the open, for a Saturn retrograde.

 

You may have felt any of these in lesser measures or not felt at all

probably (You know better), due to Jupiter exalted as the 9th Lord and

also aspecting the 9th, and with the Sun, imparting sattvic Guna to the

Lagna as well as the karaka for father- the Sun.

 

regards,'

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology,

"Santhosh"

<santhosh@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

>

>

> In my chart, I have retrograde Saturn in 9th house for cancer lagna

and sun

> in lagna. My relationship with my father has been excellent.

>

> I have Combust Jupiter + Mercury also in lagna and Jupiter is

aspecting 9th

> house. Could this be the reason according to you?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology]

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:18 PM

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give

the

> house results ?

Dear Anita ji,

>

> Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

> badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

> contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

> son.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com,

Anita R ash.rsh55@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

> combination of all.

> > As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

> with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father,

3)

> 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

> combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

> person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

> house. Why ?

> > Regards,

> > Anita

> >

> > --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to

give

> the house results ?

> > ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com

> > Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I must agree with you.

> >

> >

> >

> > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

> some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

> money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did

not

> have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home.

Of

> course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

> whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

> was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got

a

> good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

> decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his

father,

> his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

> could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and

the

> boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

> stayed happily together for n number of years.

> >

> >

> >

> > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

> hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

> seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old

one.

> This was done.

> >

> >

> >

> > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

> well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

> years or so.

> >

> >

> >

> > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

> just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

> Bombay . He

is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

> loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me

when

> he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house

and

> sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the

way.

> He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

> SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

> without a word.

> >

> >

> >

> > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

> there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

> aloud.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

> father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest

and

> wise man.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

> supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

> Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

> >

> >

> >

> > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

> communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

> >

> >

> >

> > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

> during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

> Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was

near

> my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and

asked

> him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

> shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

> too late I feel so bad about this" I asked him about the date of his

> fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

> the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

> him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

> name,going to temple etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

> place.

> >

> >

> >

> > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted"

state BUT

is

> not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

> is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing,

BUT

> we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is

at

> peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

> relax.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

> rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

> should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

> conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give "stronger"

results,

those

> results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

> its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

> standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa

rashi

> planets.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

> planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

> his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect

the

> exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

> is "which planet will give stonger results for that

particular

> house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

> house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > >  -Manoj

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to

give

> the house results ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any

horoscope.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> results

> >

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and

remember

a

> >

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

> >

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

> 2

> >

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is

the

> owner.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. <http://in.. com/> com/

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You are right Deepak Ji, except status of

native. It takes you to great height. The Jupiter in Natal is exalted and with sun. Hence

externally you give out an image of extreme well being even materially. But the

truth is revealed by the Navamsha position of Jupiter which is debilitated. Another

way of looking at it is, success will always be at arms length. It will always

look like you are going to get it. But then it will move away.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of deepak sharma

Monday, December 07, 2009

6:27 PM

 

Re:

Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santhosh Ji,

Such a jupiter (even if exalted in Natal)

may adversely effect family life /

wealth / status of native during its dasha.

Though other factors should also be considered. Thank you.

Best Regards,

Deepak Sharma

 

 

 

 

Santhosh <santhosh (AT) sudhamayi (DOT) com>

 

Mon, December 7, 2009

6:09:41 PM

RE:

Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

Thanks for going through. Yes having sun and Jupiter in cancer

rashi is very good provided it is not with any other blemishes. My Jupiter is

Neecha ( Capri ) in Navamsha and it is just

one degree from sun making it severely combust.

 

During my Ju Dasa, which is going on now and will last till 2014,

the first half was very good, though not without struggles. The second half has

given me lots of name and taken away all my wealth.

 

//It may also

manifest in father and Son staying away from each other. It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. //

 

When I was a

child, school days, my father was a strict disciplinarian and was very

particular about my performance in school, courtesy Me+ Ju in Cancer Lagna and

Me in Virgo in Navamsha, I was able to satisfy my father.

However, later on

as I grew bigger, he would leave everything to my like, and ofcourse I have not

disappointed him and he doesn’t try to enforce his wishes and in any ways is

much meeker than how he was initially. So no comparison there. But yes, we have

mostly stayed away as when he was working, he was away on work during a major

part and later when I got job I have always worked away from home, that way

staying away from mother also.

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology

[ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Monday, December 07, 2009

4:10 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

[ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give the house results ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

You have got one of the finest combknations one could hope for with

regards to Jupiter and the Sun.

 

Relationships with father may not exactly be seen in light of actual

meaning of the word. This may also mean that one could not have received

what was expected from father, in full as per expectations. It may also

manifest in father and Son staying away from each other. It may manifest

ina strict disciplarian father, or a drunkard Father. It could also

mean that the Father could not confirm to the standars of what a stereo

type Father could be. Such matters are not easy for one to disclose, so

mostly we do not have these facts in the open, for a Saturn retrograde.

 

You may have felt any of these in lesser measures or not felt at all

probably (You know better), due to Jupiter exalted as the 9th Lord and

also aspecting the 9th, and with the Sun, imparting sattvic Guna to the

Lagna as well as the karaka for father- the Sun.

 

regards,'

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_

astrology, " Santhosh "

<santhosh@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji,

>

>

>

> In my chart, I have retrograde Saturn in 9th house for cancer lagna

and sun

> in lagna. My relationship with my father has been excellent.

>

> I have Combust Jupiter + Mercury also in lagna and Jupiter is

aspecting 9th

> house. Could this be the reason according to you?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> ancient_indian_

astrology

> [ancient_indian_

astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:18 PM

> ancient_indian_

astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give

the

> house results ?

Dear Anita ji,

>

> Saturn retrograde, 9th house afflicted, The Sun afflicted, 9th house a

> badhaksthana, Rahu in Leo, Rahu with the Sun, may be the other factors

> contributing to adjustment and relationship issues between father and

> son.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com,

Anita R ash.rsh55@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > very interesting mail. Hard work and sincerity are the best

> combination of all.

> > As far as my information goes, 1)Sun with a malefic causes problems

> with the father, 2) malefics in 9th might cause problems with father,

3)

> 9th lord in 12th / 8th/6th might cause problems . Any other

> combinations, I would like to know. But I have seen people asking a

> person if their father is alive when the horoscope has Sun in the 1st

> house. Why ?

> > Regards,

> > Anita

> >

> > --- On Sat, 5/12/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Who is more stronger to give

> the house results ?

> > ancient_indian_

<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com

> > Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 5:23 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I must agree with you.

> >

> >

> >

> > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

> some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

> money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did

not

> have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home.

Of

> course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

> whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

> was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got

a

> good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

> decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his

father,

> his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

> could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and

the

> boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

> stayed happily together for n number of years.

> >

> >

> >

> > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

> hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

> seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old

one.

> This was done.

> >

> >

> >

> > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

> well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

> years or so.

> >

> >

> >

> > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

> just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

> Bombay .

He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

> loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me

when

> he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house

and

> sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the

way.

> He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

> SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

> without a word.

> >

> >

> >

> > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

> there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

> aloud.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay

for last 40 years. My friends

> father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest

and

> wise man.

> >

> >

> >

> > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

> supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

> Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

> >

> >

> >

> > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

> communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

> >

> >

> >

> > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

> during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

> Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was

near

> my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and

asked

> him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

> shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

> too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

> fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

> the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

> him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

> name,going to temple etc.

> >

> >

> >

> > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

> place.

> >

> >

> >

> > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

> <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted "

state BUT

is

> not at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that

> is very exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing,

BUT

> we are not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is

at

> peace, is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and

> relax.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

> rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha

> should not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So inÂÂ

> conclusion, while an Exalted planet might give " stronger "

results,

those

> results may not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in

> its own house gives a more consistent benificial results that is long

> standing. But this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa

rashi

> planets.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

> planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

> his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect

the

> exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

> is " which planet will give stonger results for that particular

> house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own

> house. Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > >  -Manoj

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Who is more stronger to

give

> the house results ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ÂÂ

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> results

> >

> > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and

remember

a

> >

> > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than

the

> >

> > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving

you

> 2

> >

> > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is

the

> owner.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in.. <http://in.. com/> com/

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Bhaskar Ji,

 

To chaliye aaj se ham bhi aapke mitra......ek naam aur add karlijiye

marne se pahle ke list mai.

 

Take care.

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

Bhaskar wrote:

 

 

 

And Yes, now for some humour and seriousness mixed. Those who remain my

friends always achieve a high and wealthy status in Life. My 11th house

is Gemini with Mercury (retro and combust) in it and Sun in close

degreecal conjunction. So thats the reason.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

,

"Bhaskar"

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Manoj ji,

>

> I must agree with you.

>

> At the same time,will also put further views on this.

>

> I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who

having

some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not

have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of

course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a

good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father,

his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

stayed happily together for n number of years.

>

> That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one.

This was done.

>

> I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

years or so.

>

> Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when

he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and

sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way.

He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

without a word.

>

> So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

aloud.

>

> They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and

wise man.

>

> They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

>

> Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

>

> Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a

mail).

during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near

my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked

him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

too late I feel so bad about this" I asked him about the date of his

fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

name,going to temple etc.

>

> In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis

father

place.

>

> But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

>

> Love and regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> ,

Manoj Chandran

chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > Exalted visitor to the house is in an "exalted" state BUT is

not

at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very

exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are

not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace,

is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and relax.

> >

> > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own

house

rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should

not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion,

while an Exalted planet might give "stronger" results, those results may

not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in its own house

gives a more consistent benificial results that is long standing. But

this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.

> >

> > However, in the specific example you have given, such an

exalted

planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the

exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

is "which planet will give stonger results for that particular

house", then I would have to say it is the planet in its own house.

Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> > Â

> > Regards,

> > Â -Manoj

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> >

> > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> > Who is more stronger

to give the

house results ?

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Dear colleauges,

> >

> > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> >

> > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any

horoscope.

> >

> > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to

give

results

> > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> >

> > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> >

> > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> >

> > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> >

> > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and

remember a

> > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful

than the

> > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am

giving you

2

> > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is

the

owner.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Devisingh ji,

 

Bhai marne ke pahle ki List mein hi sirf kyon ?

 

Yahan bhi aur wahan bhi mitra rahenge. Nahin Mitra nahin rahenge. Param mitra

rahenge.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, devisigh <devisingh.rajput

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> To chaliye aaj se ham bhi aapke mitra......ek naam aur add karlijiye

> marne se pahle ke list mai.

>

> Take care.

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

> Bhaskar wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > And Yes, now for some humour and seriousness mixed. Those who remain my

> > friends always achieve a high and wealthy status in Life. My 11th house

> > is Gemini with Mercury (retro and combust) in it and Sun in close

> > degreecal conjunction. So thats the reason.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > <%40>, " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Manoj ji,

> > >

> > > I must agree with you.

> > >

> > > At the same time,will also put further views on this.

> > >

> > > I will take my personal example. I had a friend in college who having

> > some arguments with his father, left his business, home and took no

> > money and learnt driving etc. so that he could work, and though did not

> > have any money on him, managed to stay for few months away from home. Of

> > course during this time he was looked after by me to some extent

> > whatever was possible from me as a teenager.His father knowing that I

> > was his fast friend, called upon me at my residence from where he got a

> > good verbal whacking from my father and left disheartened. I then

> > decided to take some bold steps and arranged a meeting with his father,

> > his Uncle and informed them that I knew where the boy was and if they

> > could listen to him, i could make them meet. well this was done and the

> > boyw as welcomed back to the fold, his ordinary demands met, and they

> > stayed happily together for n number of years.

> > >

> > > That was the distant past. In recent past that was 10 years ago,

> > hisbfather again had begun problems with his son. I asked him to

> > seperate and move to another office , and let his son be in the old one.

> > This was done.

> > >

> > > I Have been their Vastu Consultant as well as Financier advisor, as

> > well as Pooja advisor, as well as friends to both of them for last 28

> > years or so.

> > >

> > > Today the son is about 40 Crores party (During college days he was

> > just a hajaarpati), has just purchased a Flat costing 5 Crores in

> > Bombay. He is my good friend today too. His father yill he was alive

> > loved me like a son, was ever ready to even spend 8-10 lakhs on me when

> > he was alive and when i was looking for a small office near my house and

> > sort of deposit money. They have loved me and respected me all the way.

> > He has two sons whom I can reprimand, abuse ,party with, MAKE

> > SUGGESTIONS which will be complied and implemented with immediately

> > without a word.

> > >

> > > So though they are owners of 50 Crores yet I have an Exalted status

> > there and can make things and matters move just by mouthing my views

> > aloud.

> > >

> > > They are UP Bhaiyyas living in Bombay for last 40 years. My friends

> > father was just a angutha chaap, but a very hard worker and a honest and

> > wise man.

> > >

> > > They are in carpet business and importing from Germany etc, and

> > supplying to all carpet dealers and contracts with the major Private

> > Corporates and PSU's and govt sectors.

> > >

> > > Incidentally almost all my friends in life had a problem of

> > communication and adjustment with their father, and so had I .

> > >

> > > Another interesting incident (Sorry this is growing too long a mail).

> > during last Shradha paksha on one of the days I had gone to deliver

> > Rotis to gau Mata and some food for Brahmin to the temple which was near

> > my friends house, and I remembered and called him on his cell, and asked

> > him whether did he do the necessary customary rituals on his fathers

> > shradha, and he said " No I forgot. His date of death is over.Now its

> > too late I feel so bad about this " I asked him about the date of his

> > fathers death and went home to check the Panchanga and luckily it was

> > the next day for his fathers Shradha as per tithi. I informed this to

> > him and we spent half of the day in feeding the poor in his fathers

> > name,going to temple etc.

> > >

> > > In same manner even a son in law gets an Exalted status at bhis father

> > place.

> > >

> > > But your views have got some logic and I do respect them,

> > >

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > <%40>, Manoj Chandran

> > chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Exalted visitor to the house is in an " exalted " state BUT is not

> > at home. It is like this: When we go to a party that is very

> > exciting and enthralling, we are very excited and outgoing, BUT we are

> > not at home and peaceful. Whereas a Graha that is at home, is at peace,

> > is going to lift its legs, put them on the chair and relax.

> > > >

> > > > So, my personal preference is to have a planet in its own house

> > rather than an exalted planet. (only caveat is that Swa Graha should

> > not be afflicted or else we have a double whammy). So in conclusion,

> > while an Exalted planet might give " stronger " results, those results may

> > not be sustainable over the long haul. A planet in its own house

> > gives a more consistent benificial results that is long standing. But

> > this is a generic comment comparing exalted and Swa rashi planets.

> > > >

> > > > However, in the specific example you have given, such an exalted

> > planet is indeed very powerful, since its dispositor is very strong in

> > his own house. So in this specific case, we can expect the

> > exalted planet to indeed give strong results, however, if the question

> > is " which planet will give stonger results for that particular

> > house " , then I would have to say it is the planet in its own house.

> > Karaka nature needs to be considered too.

> > > > Â

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Â -Manoj

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > Sat, December 5, 2009 4:22:06 AM

> > > > Who is more stronger to give the

> > house results ?

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > Dear colleauges,

> > > >

> > > > 1) Jupiter and Moon in Cancer.

> > > >

> > > > Suppose above combination is placed in any house in any horoscope.

> > > >

> > > > Then which planet will be more effective among the two, to give

> > results

> > > > of that particular house where this combination is placed ?

> > > >

> > > > Similiar combinations for those interested.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Sun and Mars in Aries.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Mars and saturn in Capricorn.

> > > >

> > > > Your views invited.We will keep the ascendants aside and remember a

> > > > basic rule that the occupant of any house is more powerful than the

> > > > owner to give results of the house in question. Here I am giving you

> > 2

> > > > occupants in each house where one is Exalted and the other is the

> > owner.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>