This will make You Proud (Non Astrological Post)

December 12, 2009

Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how? It's really amazing.(1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about which he actually did not know.He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is alawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only like a simple stone.But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.And he saw a bright ray of light.He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its security.It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.India can buy virtually 7 developing nations. One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India in Installment if it wishes to do so. India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way 'nature changes'.Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it. Otherwise right now we have no problems.You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.The Hindu with its half page article in it.After that it was censored as classified.(2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil andNatural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.And moreover it can export it to other counties.It's incredible!! But true. (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory of Relativity'.Shocked? Read on...Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of Relativity'.In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel faster than light. The international physics community is shocked by this discovery. Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigationmounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke down.Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.We should all be very proud of these boys.

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar jigot this additional information from the netThis email is being widely circulated on websites and chat rooms in

India. TruthOrFiction.com has found no evidence of this individual, his

brother, or his discovery. No article has appeared in the India Times.

There is no Carl Uppsala associated with the Nobel Prizes (he is named

in the email). There is not a Dr. Massimo Martelli (also named in the

email) who is president of "The International Physics Community." Most

of all, there is no such thing as an "IQ meter." Thanks and regardsGirish --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish This will make You Proud (Non Astrological Post) Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 3:08 AM

Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how? It's really amazing.(1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about which he actually did not know.He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is alawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only like a simple stone.But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.And he saw a bright ray of

light.He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its security.It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.India can buy virtually 7 developing nations. One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.And the World Bank has proposed the

Indian Govt. that it can pay India in Installment if it wishes to do so. India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way 'nature changes'.Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it. Otherwise right now we have no problems.You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.The Hindu with its half page article in it.After that it was censored as classified.(2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil andNatural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.And moreover it can export it to other counties.It's incredible!! But true. (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory of Relativity'.Shocked? Read on...Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of Relativity'.In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel faster than light. The international physics community is shocked by this discovery. Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigationmounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke down.Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.We should all be very proud of these boys.

December 12, 2009

Yes.

The mention of 'IQ Meter' was really GREAT.......

I enjoyed the mail.

regards

Chakraborty

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December 12, 2009

I remembered the practical joke!! about Many (not all) Andra S/w professional

guys in the US

A US guy was telling us in Bangalore at my previous Co. Even a New Born baby has

a 3 Years Experience in JAVA.....!!!...hahah apparently making remarks on how

many Andra guys faking!!their experinence certificates..

But honestly i do not know about Reddys mentioned in this article

Chandu2Chill

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Yes.

>

> The mention of 'IQ Meter' was really GREAT.......

>

> I enjoyed the mail.

>

> regards

>

> Chakraborty

>

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>

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December 12, 2009

Dear Girish ji,

// There is no Carl Uppsala associated with the Nobel Prizes (he is named in

the email)//King Carl XVI Gustaf of Swedan presented the noble prize in

Chemistry to Dr. Venkatram Raman during the Noble prize ceremony in Stockholm,

Swedan on Thursday December 10-12-2009, i mean just 2 days ago.

Regards

Kulbir.

>

> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> This will make You Proud (Non Astrological

Post)

>

> Saturday, December 12, 2009, 3:08 AM

>

Â

>

Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how? It's

really amazing.

>

> (1) Â It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about which he

actually did not know.

>

> He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

>

> For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his house.But

nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he took the

stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only like a

simple stone.

> But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> And he saw a bright ray of light.

> He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when he

cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

>

> He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its security.

> It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

>

> Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

>

> One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

>

> One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India in

Installment if it wishes to do so.

>

> India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

>

> Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

'nature changes'.

>

> Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

>

> He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it. Otherwise

right now we have no problems.

>

> You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

>

> Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

>

> The Hindu with its half page article in it.

>

> After that it was censored as classified.

>

> (2) Â Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil and

> Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

>

> India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> It's incredible!! But true.

>

> (3) Â An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory of

Relativity'.

> Shocked? Read on...

>

> Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of Relativity'.

>

> In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced Physics

(IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence of a class of

sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel faster than light.

> The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

>

> Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the paper

submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical analysis, I can

confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show tremendous leap in our

understanding of physics. His investigation

> mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of Einstein

and others in the field of relativity.'

> When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's IQ with

an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke down.

> Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz kid

who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> We should all be very proud of these boys.

> Â

>

December 12, 2009

Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously wants

to convey some message.

Regards

Kulbir.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> It's really amazing.

>

> (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> which he actually did not know.

>

> He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

>

> For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> like a simple stone.

> But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> And he saw a bright ray of light.

> He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

>

> He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> security.

> It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

>

> Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

>

> One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

>

> One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> in Installment if it wishes to do so.

>

> India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

>

> Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

> 'nature changes'.

>

> Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

>

> He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> Otherwise right now we have no problems.

>

> You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

>

> Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

>

> The Hindu with its half page article in it.

>

> After that it was censored as classified.

>

> (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> and

> Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

>

> India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> It's incredible!! But true.

>

> (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> of Relativity'.

> Shocked? Read on...

>

> Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

> challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> Relativity'.

>

> In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> faster than light.

> The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

>

> Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

> down.

> Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

> kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> We should all be very proud of these boys.

>

December 12, 2009

Dear KulbirjiI was little confused regarding the IQ meter breaking downCan you please give some information regarding IQ meter because i have heard about IQ test. That is the reason i searched the net regarding IQ meter and i found information regarding this post which i posted.Thanks and regardsGirish--- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains Re: This will make You Proud (Non Astrological Post) Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 6:43 AM

Dear members: please find the best answer at // http://relativecons tant.blogspot. com/2009/ 07/hoaxes- and-what- people-will- believe.html //

Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously wants to convey some message.

Regards

Kulbir.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> It's really amazing.

>

> (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> which he actually did not know.

>

> He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

>

> For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> like a simple stone.

> But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> And he saw a bright ray of light.

> He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

>

> He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> security.

> It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

>

> Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

>

> One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

>

> One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> in Installment if it wishes to do so.

>

> India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

>

> Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

> 'nature changes'.

>

> Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

>

> He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> Otherwise right now we have no problems.

>

> You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

>

> Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

>

> The Hindu with its half page article in it.

>

> After that it was censored as classified.

>

> (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> and

> Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

>

> India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> It's incredible!! But true.

>

> (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> of Relativity'.

> Shocked? Read on...

>

> Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

> challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> Relativity'.

>

> In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> faster than light.

> The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

>

> Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

> down.

> Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

> kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> We should all be very proud of these boys.

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Girishi ji; please read message no. 29943.

Regards

Kulbir

, Girish menon <horamag

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbirji

> I was little confused regarding the IQ meter breaking down

> Can you please give some information regarding IQ meter because i have heard

about IQ test. That is the reason i searched the net regarding IQ meter and i

found information regarding this post which i posted.

> Thanks and regards

> Girish

>

> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> kulbir <kulbirbains

> Re: This will make You Proud (Non

Astrological Post)

>

> Saturday, December 12, 2009, 6:43 AM

>

Â

>

Dear members: please find the best answer at // http://relativecons

tant.blogspot. com/2009/ 07/hoaxes- and-what- people-will- believe.html //

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously

wants to convey some message.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

>

> > It's really amazing.

>

> >

>

> > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

>

> > which he actually did not know.

>

> >

>

> > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

>

> >

>

> > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

>

> > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

>

> > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

>

> > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

>

> > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

>

> > like a simple stone.

>

> > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

>

> > And he saw a bright ray of light.

>

> > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

>

> > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

>

> > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

>

> >

>

> > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

>

> > security.

>

> > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

>

> > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

>

> >

>

> > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

>

> > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

>

> >

>

> > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

>

> >

>

> > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

>

> > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

>

> > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

>

> >

>

> > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

>

> >

>

> > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

>

> > 'nature changes'.

>

> >

>

> > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

>

> >

>

> > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

>

> > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

>

> >

>

> > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

>

> >

>

> > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

>

> >

>

> > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

>

> >

>

> > After that it was censored as classified.

>

> >

>

> > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

>

> > and

>

> > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

>

> >

>

> > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

>

> > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

>

> > It's incredible!! But true.

>

> >

>

> > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

>

> > of Relativity'.

>

> > Shocked? Read on...

>

> >

>

> > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

>

> > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

>

> > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

>

> > Relativity'.

>

> >

>

> > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

>

> > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

>

> > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

>

> > faster than light.

>

> > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

>

> >

>

> > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

>

> > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

>

> > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

>

> > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

>

> > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

>

> > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

>

> > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

>

> > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

>

> > down.

>

> > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

>

> > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

>

> > We should all be very proud of these boys.

>

> >

>

December 12, 2009

The IQ meter breaking down is actually a way of expressing something.

Like " He has reached the heights of stardom " . Here one does not climb some

moutain to reach any heights.

OR

" He is the pinnacle of humility " . This means that the person is very humble but

does not mean that he is never un-humble.

OR

" Japan is land of the Rising Sun " . Here actually the Sun was not lying down, to

rise after a nights sleep in the morning.

So on and so forth....

Bhai usko padhlo aur anand le lo.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Girish menon <horamag

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbirji

> I was little confused regarding the IQ meter breaking down

> Can you please give some information regarding IQ meter because i have heard

about IQ test. That is the reason i searched the net regarding IQ meter and i

found information regarding this post which i posted.

> Thanks and regards

> Girish

>

> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> kulbir <kulbirbains

> Re: This will make You Proud (Non

Astrological Post)

>

> Saturday, December 12, 2009, 6:43 AM

>

Â

>

Dear members: please find the best answer at // http://relativecons

tant.blogspot. com/2009/ 07/hoaxes- and-what- people-will- believe.html //

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously

wants to convey some message.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

>

> > It's really amazing.

>

> >

>

> > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

>

> > which he actually did not know.

>

> >

>

> > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

>

> >

>

> > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

>

> > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

>

> > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

>

> > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

>

> > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

>

> > like a simple stone.

>

> > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

>

> > And he saw a bright ray of light.

>

> > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

>

> > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

>

> > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

>

> >

>

> > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

>

> > security.

>

> > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

>

> > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

>

> >

>

> > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

>

> > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

>

> >

>

> > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

>

> >

>

> > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

>

> > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

>

> > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

>

> >

>

> > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

>

> >

>

> > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

>

> > 'nature changes'.

>

> >

>

> > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

>

> >

>

> > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

>

> > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

>

> >

>

> > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

>

> >

>

> > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

>

> >

>

> > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

>

> >

>

> > After that it was censored as classified.

>

> >

>

> > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

>

> > and

>

> > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

>

> >

>

> > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

>

> > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

>

> > It's incredible!! But true.

>

> >

>

> > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

>

> > of Relativity'.

>

> > Shocked? Read on...

>

> >

>

> > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

>

> > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

>

> > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

>

> > Relativity'.

>

> >

>

> > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

>

> > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

>

> > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

>

> > faster than light.

>

> > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

>

> >

>

> > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

>

> > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

>

> > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

>

> > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

>

> > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

>

> > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

>

> > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

>

> > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

>

> > down.

>

> > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

>

> > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

>

> > We should all be very proud of these boys.

>

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri Kulbirji,

but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more contemplations and

issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail further exchange on

this.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously

wants to convey some message.

> Regards

> Kulbir.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > It's really amazing.

> >

> > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > which he actually did not know.

> >

> > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> >

> > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> > like a simple stone.

> > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> >

> > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > security.

> > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> >

> > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> >

> > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> >

> > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> >

> > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> >

> > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

> > 'nature changes'.

> >

> > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> >

> > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> >

> > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

> >

> > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> >

> > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> >

> > After that it was censored as classified.

> >

> > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> > and

> > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

> >

> > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > It's incredible!! But true.

> >

> > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> > of Relativity'.

> > Shocked? Read on...

> >

> > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

> > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > Relativity'.

> >

> > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > faster than light.

> > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> >

> > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

> > down.

> > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

> > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason alone;

members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to predict

within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees received

from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/

because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who

claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of

launch of this course only.

Am I Right.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously

wants to convey some message.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > > It's really amazing.

> > >

> > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > > which he actually did not know.

> > >

> > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > >

> > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> > > like a simple stone.

> > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > >

> > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > security.

> > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > >

> > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > >

> > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > >

> > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > >

> > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > >

> > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

> > > 'nature changes'.

> > >

> > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > >

> > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > >

> > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

> > >

> > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > >

> > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > >

> > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > >

> > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> > > and

> > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

> > >

> > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > >

> > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> > > of Relativity'.

> > > Shocked? Read on...

> > >

> > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

> > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > Relativity'.

> > >

> > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > > faster than light.

> > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > >

> > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

> > > down.

> > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

> > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back with the

call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more member. Got

it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000 (Advance

part payment).

I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

1) Faith in ones own Karma.

2) Faith in God,

3) faith in astrology.

I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order of

importance.

another point-

One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each and every

action before he begins it.

another point -

Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and check

before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

another point -

Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of their ills

but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in same. Karma

is the main Dharma.

regards/Bhaskar.

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason alone;

members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to predict

within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees received

from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/

because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who

claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of

launch of this course only.

> Am I Right.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously

wants to convey some message.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > > > It's really amazing.

> > > >

> > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > >

> > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > > >

> > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > >

> > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > > security.

> > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > >

> > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > >

> > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > >

> > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > >

> > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > >

> > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

> > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > >

> > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > >

> > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > >

> > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

> > > >

> > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > > >

> > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > >

> > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > >

> > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> > > > and

> > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

> > > >

> > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > >

> > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > >

> > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

> > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > > Relativity'.

> > > >

> > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > > > faster than light.

> > > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > > >

> > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

> > > > down.

> > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

> > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

dear KulbirjiI am still confused probably my meter is down

Dear Girishi ji; please read message no. 29943.

Regards

Kulbir

Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific

reason, he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir

Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one

reason alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn

to predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

Am I Right.

RegardsKulbir Bains.

--- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains Re: This will make You Proud (Non Astrological Post) Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 7:40 AM

Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of launch of this course only.

Am I Right.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail further exchange on this.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, "kulbir" <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear members: please find the best answer at // http://relativecons tant.blogspot. com/2009/ 07/hoaxes- and-what- people-will- believe.html //

> > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > > It's really amazing.

> > >

> > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > > which he actually did not know.

> > >

> > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > >

> > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

> > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> > > like a simple stone.

> > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > >

> > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > security.

> > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > >

> > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > >

> > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > >

> > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > >

> > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > >

> > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

> > > 'nature changes'.

> > >

> > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > >

> > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > >

> > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

> > >

> > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > >

> > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > >

> > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > >

> > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> > > and

> > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

> > >

> > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > >

> > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> > > of Relativity'.

> > > Shocked? Read on...

> > >

> > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

> > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > Relativity'.

> > >

> > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > > faster than light.

> > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > >

> > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

> > > down.

> > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

> > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Girish Ji; It is established; it is just a hoax; there is no thing like I.

Q. meter. There are only I.Q. tests.

Regards

Kulbir

, Girish menon <horamag

wrote:

>

> dear Kulbirji

> I am still confused

> probably my meter is down

>

> Dear Girishi ji; please read message no. 29943.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir

>

> Â

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific

> reason, he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > Regards

>

> > > Kulbir

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one

> reason alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax.

Learn

> to predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back

fees

> received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

> Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

> person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

> outcome of launch of this course only.

>

> Am I Right.

>

> RegardsKulbir Bains.

>

--- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> kulbir <kulbirbains

> Re: This will make You Proud (Non

Astrological Post)

>

> Saturday, December 12, 2009, 7:40 AM

>

Â

>

Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason

alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to

predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

>

> Am I Right.

>

> Regards

>

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear members: please find the best answer at // http://relativecons

tant.blogspot. com/2009/ 07/hoaxes- and-what- people-will- believe.html //

>

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he obviously

wants to convey some message.

>

> > > Regards

>

> > > Kulbir.

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

>

> > > > It's really amazing.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

>

> > > > which he actually did not know.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

>

> > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is a

>

> > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

>

> > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

>

> > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

>

> > > > like a simple stone.

>

> > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

>

> > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

>

> > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

>

> > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

>

> > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

>

> > > > security.

>

> > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

>

> > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

>

> > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

>

> > > >

>

> > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

>

> > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

>

> > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the way

>

> > > > 'nature changes'.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

>

> > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week ago.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > After that it was censored as classified.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

>

> > > > and

>

> > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its stomach.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

>

> > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

>

> > > > It's incredible!! But true.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's 'Theory

>

> > > > of Relativity'.

>

> > > > Shocked? Read on...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

>

> > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light, thereby

>

> > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

>

> > > > Relativity'.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

>

> > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

>

> > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

>

> > > > faster than light.

>

> > > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

>

> > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

>

> > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

>

> > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

>

> > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

>

> > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

>

> > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

>

> > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter broke

>

> > > > down.

>

> > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian whiz

>

> > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

>

> > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many

persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?// NEVER;

because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too seriously.

Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

>

> The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back with the

call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more member. Got

it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000 (Advance

part payment).

>

> I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

>

> 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> 2) Faith in God,

> 3) faith in astrology.

>

> I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order of

importance.

>

> another point-

> One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each and

every action before he begins it.

>

> another point -

> Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and check

before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

>

> another point -

> Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of their

ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

>

> Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in same. Karma

is the main Dharma.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason alone;

members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to predict

within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees received

from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/

because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who

claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of

launch of this course only.

> > Am I Right.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he

obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > >

> > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > >

> > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > > > >

> > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who is

a

> > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house, he

> > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked only

> > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed when

> > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > >

> > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > > > security.

> > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > >

> > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > >

> > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > >

> > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay India

> > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > >

> > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the

way

> > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > >

> > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week

ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > >

> > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of Oil

> > > > > and

> > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its

stomach.

> > > > >

> > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > >

> > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's

'Theory

> > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > >

> > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a sub-atomic

> > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light,

thereby

> > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > >

> > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the existence

> > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > > > >

> > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers show

> > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work of

> > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure Sudarshan's

> > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter

broke

> > > > > down.

> > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian

whiz

> > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

This is good. How do you manage to bring in my posts which were written some

time back, and quote from them. I wonder. This is a honour for me. I hope you

are not collecting my other type of mails where I write nonsense stuff ?

Love and regards,

Bhaskar.

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many

persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?// NEVER;

because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too seriously.

Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> >

> > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back with

the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more member.

Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000

(Advance part payment).

> >

> > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> >

> > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > 2) Faith in God,

> > 3) faith in astrology.

> >

> > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order of

importance.

> >

> > another point-

> > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each and

every action before he begins it.

> >

> > another point -

> > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and check

before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

> >

> > another point -

> > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of their

ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> >

> > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in same.

Karma is the main Dharma.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason alone;

members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to predict

within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees received

from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/

because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who

claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of

launch of this course only.

> > > Am I Right.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he

obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who

is a

> > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house,

he

> > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked

only

> > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed

when

> > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > > > > security.

> > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay

India

> > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the

way

> > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week

ago.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of

Oil

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its

stomach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's

'Theory

> > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a

sub-atomic

> > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light,

thereby

> > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the

existence

> > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers

show

> > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work

of

> > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter

broke

> > > > > > down.

> > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian

whiz

> > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

//Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of above with your reply ?

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many

persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?// NEVER;

because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too seriously.

Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> >

> > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back with

the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more member.

Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000

(Advance part payment).

> >

> > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> >

> > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > 2) Faith in God,

> > 3) faith in astrology.

> >

> > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order of

importance.

> >

> > another point-

> > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each and

every action before he begins it.

> >

> > another point -

> > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and check

before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

> >

> > another point -

> > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of their

ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> >

> > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in same.

Karma is the main Dharma.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason alone;

members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to predict

within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees received

from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/

because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who

claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of

launch of this course only.

> > > Am I Right.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he

obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering how?

> > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth, about

> > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who

is a

> > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house,

he

> > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked

only

> > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed

when

> > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > > > > security.

> > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay

India

> > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is the

way

> > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week

ago.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of

Oil

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its

stomach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's

'Theory

> > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a

sub-atomic

> > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light,

thereby

> > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of Advanced

> > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the

existence

> > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can travel

> > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about the

> > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers

show

> > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work

of

> > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter

broke

> > > > > > down.

> > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian

whiz

> > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft Windows.

> > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message no. 29954 dated

12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on

this.//

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

>

> Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of above with your reply

?

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured

many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?// NEVER;

because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too seriously.

Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > >

> > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back with

the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more member.

Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000

(Advance part payment).

> > >

> > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > >

> > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > >

> > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order of

importance.

> > >

> > > another point-

> > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each and

every action before he begins it.

> > >

> > > another point -

> > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and check

before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

> > >

> > > another point -

> > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of

their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > >

> > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in same.

Karma is the main Dharma.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason

alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to

predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

> > > > Am I Right.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by Shri

Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he

obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering

how?

> > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth,

about

> > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in his

> > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person, who

is a

> > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his house,

he

> > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked

only

> > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was amazed

when

> > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay

India

> > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is

the way

> > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a week

ago.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit of

Oil

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its

stomach.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30 years.

> > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's

'Theory

> > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a

sub-atomic

> > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light,

thereby

> > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of

Advanced

> > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the

existence

> > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can

travel

> > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this discovery.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about

the

> > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers

show

> > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His investigation

> > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the work

of

> > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the meter

broke

> > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the Indian

whiz

> > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft

Windows.

> > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

Now you are playing games. My previous assertion of not giving reasons, does not

demand a requisition for you to demand me a reply for my not having mentioned

reasons.

But I am completely justified in asking you the same, since you have addressed

the mail personally to me and as well as the remarks too. In Your case if you

are hinting at some insiniuations where the intent of the content is not

bonafide probably but malafide, then one must be clear and out with the actual

intent, so that the other person

has the chance to answer or counter reply the allegations made if any.

Hre we are not even sure whether you are making any allegations or what.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message no. 29954 dated

12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on

> this.//

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> >

> > Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of above with your

reply ?

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured

many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?// NEVER;

because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too seriously.

Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > >

> > > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > > >

> > > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back

with the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more

member. Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 +

10000 (Advance part payment).

> > > >

> > > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > > >

> > > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > > >

> > > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order of

importance.

> > > >

> > > > another point-

> > > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each

and every action before he begins it.

> > > >

> > > > another point -

> > > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and

check before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

> > > >

> > > > another point -

> > > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of

their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > > >

> > > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in same.

Karma is the main Dharma.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason

alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to

predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

> > > > > Am I Right.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by

Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he

obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world! Wondering

how?

> > > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth,

about

> > > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore district.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in

his

> > > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person,

who is a

> > > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his

house, he

> > > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it looked

only

> > > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was cleansed.

> > > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was

amazed when

> > > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with its

> > > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can pay

India

> > > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that is

the way

> > > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need it.

> > > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a

week ago.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days ago.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit

of Oil

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in its

stomach.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30

years.

> > > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved Einstein's

'Theory

> > > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a

sub-atomic

> > > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of light,

thereby

> > > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory of

> > > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of

Advanced

> > > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the

existence

> > > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can

travel

> > > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this

discovery.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say about

the

> > > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and critical

> > > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research papers

show

> > > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His

investigation

> > > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the

work of

> > > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the

meter broke

> > > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the

Indian whiz

> > > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft

Windows.

> > > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar ji, yes you are absolutely justified; i may be wrong but i thought

it highly inappropriate of a person of your caliber quoting Ramkrishna

Paramhansa's example in that mail.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> Now you are playing games. My previous assertion of not giving reasons, does

not demand a requisition for you to demand me a reply for my not having

mentioned reasons.

>

> But I am completely justified in asking you the same, since you have addressed

the mail personally to me and as well as the remarks too. In Your case if you

are hinting at some insiniuations where the intent of the content is not

bonafide probably but malafide, then one must be clear and out with the actual

intent, so that the other person

> has the chance to answer or counter reply the allegations made if any.

>

> Hre we are not even sure whether you are making any allegations or what.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message no. 29954

dated 12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on

> > this.//

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > >

> > > Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of above with your

reply ?

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured

many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?// NEVER;

because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too seriously.

Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > > > >

> > > > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came back

with the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more

member. Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 +

10000 (Advance part payment).

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my order

of importance.

> > > > >

> > > > > another point-

> > > > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for each

and every action before he begins it.

> > > > >

> > > > > another point -

> > > > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and

check before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

> > > > >

> > > > > another point -

> > > > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons of

their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in

same. Karma is the main Dharma.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one reason

alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn to

predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

> > > > > > Am I Right.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said by

Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason, he

obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world!

Wondering how?

> > > > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his wealth,

about

> > > > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore

district.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped in

his

> > > > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this person,

who is a

> > > > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his

house, he

> > > > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it

looked only

> > > > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was

cleansed.

> > > > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was

amazed when

> > > > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with

its

> > > > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can

pay India

> > > > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so that

is the way

> > > > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need

it.

> > > > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it a

week ago.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days

ago.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a deposit

of Oil

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in

its stomach.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30

years.

> > > > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved

Einstein's 'Theory

> > > > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a

sub-atomic

> > > > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of

light, thereby

> > > > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory

of

> > > > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of

Advanced

> > > > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the

existence

> > > > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which can

travel

> > > > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this

discovery.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say

about the

> > > > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and

critical

> > > > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research

papers show

> > > > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His

investigation

> > > > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on the

work of

> > > > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the

meter broke

> > > > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the

Indian whiz

> > > > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft

Windows.

> > > > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

That example was given with reference to the context and to stress home a point

that a person who may be healing others may not necessarily be using his Divine

powers on himself.

The above example came with reference and in reply to your remarks on why I did

not know what would be the outcome of the course before issuing an offer for the

same. I do not use astrology for small matters as the one in question. Unless I

am going to invest some good amount of money in some new project which is not a

part of my daily profession, I will not go into such type of checking.

But the lines you reproduced from my own mails, still does not justify any

co-relation for writing those.

I again hope that you will still come out clear with what you exactly want to

say, so that your heart becomes clear.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji, yes you are absolutely justified; i may be wrong but i

thought it highly inappropriate of a person of your caliber quoting Ramkrishna

Paramhansa's example in that mail.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Now you are playing games. My previous assertion of not giving reasons, does

not demand a requisition for you to demand me a reply for my not having

mentioned reasons.

> >

> > But I am completely justified in asking you the same, since you have

addressed the mail personally to me and as well as the remarks too. In Your case

if you are hinting at some insiniuations where the intent of the content is not

bonafide probably but malafide, then one must be clear and out with the actual

intent, so that the other person

> > has the chance to answer or counter reply the allegations made if any.

> >

> > Hre we are not even sure whether you are making any allegations or what.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message no. 29954

dated 12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on

> > > this.//

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > >

> > > > //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big shots

(Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system. Do You

know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar

which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > >

> > > > Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of above with your

reply ?

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa

cured many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?//

NEVER; because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too

seriously. Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big

shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system.

Do You know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of

cigar which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came

back with the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more

member. Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 +

10000 (Advance part payment).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > > > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > > > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my

order of importance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another point-

> > > > > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for

each and every action before he begins it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart and

check before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons

of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in

same. Karma is the main Dharma.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one

reason alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn

to predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

> > > > > > > Am I Right.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said

by Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason,

he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world!

Wondering how?

> > > > > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his

wealth, about

> > > > > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore

district.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped

in his

> > > > > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this

person, who is a

> > > > > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in his

house, he

> > > > > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it

looked only

> > > > > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was

cleansed.

> > > > > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was

amazed when

> > > > > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with light.

> > > > > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats each.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored with

its

> > > > > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India .

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it can

pay India

> > > > > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so

that is the way

> > > > > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we need

it.

> > > > > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on it

a week ago.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15 days

ago.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a

deposit of Oil

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has in

its stomach.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30

years.

> > > > > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved

Einstein's 'Theory

> > > > > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of a

sub-atomic

> > > > > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of

light, thereby

> > > > > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the 'Theory

of

> > > > > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of

Advanced

> > > > > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved the

existence

> > > > > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which

can travel

> > > > > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this

discovery.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say

about the

> > > > > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and

critical

> > > > > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research

papers show

> > > > > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His

investigation

> > > > > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on

the work of

> > > > > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ), the

meter broke

> > > > > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy, the

Indian whiz

> > > > > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to Microsoft

Windows.

> > > > > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar Ji; Rest Assured. My heart is absolutely clear. You only said Big

names should not be quoted and yourself did so. Hence this confusion. I got your

point.

Regards

Kulbir.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> That example was given with reference to the context and to stress home a

point that a person who may be healing others may not necessarily be using his

Divine powers on himself.

>

> The above example came with reference and in reply to your remarks on why I

did not know what would be the outcome of the course before issuing an offer for

the same. I do not use astrology for small matters as the one in question.

Unless I am going to invest some good amount of money in some new project which

is not a part of my daily profession, I will not go into such type of checking.

>

> But the lines you reproduced from my own mails, still does not justify any

co-relation for writing those.

>

> I again hope that you will still come out clear with what you exactly want to

say, so that your heart becomes clear.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji, yes you are absolutely justified; i may be wrong but i

thought it highly inappropriate of a person of your caliber quoting Ramkrishna

Paramhansa's example in that mail.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > Now you are playing games. My previous assertion of not giving reasons,

does not demand a requisition for you to demand me a reply for my not having

mentioned reasons.

> > >

> > > But I am completely justified in asking you the same, since you have

addressed the mail personally to me and as well as the remarks too. In Your case

if you are hinting at some insiniuations where the intent of the content is not

bonafide probably but malafide, then one must be clear and out with the actual

intent, so that the other person

> > > has the chance to answer or counter reply the allegations made if any.

> > >

> > > Hre we are not even sure whether you are making any allegations or what.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message no. 29954

dated 12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on

> > > > this.//

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big

shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system.

Do You know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of

cigar which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > >

> > > > > Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of above with

your reply ?

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa

cured many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?//

NEVER; because i take lessons from learned people like your goodself too

seriously. Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take some Big

shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also follow his system.

Do You know why ? This creates impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of

cigar which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the time I came

back with the call for closure of the course, I had received money from one more

member. Got it Sir ? That made the total to Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 +

10000 (Advance part payment).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > > > > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > > > > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes last in my

order of importance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > another point-

> > > > > > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right Muhurtha for

each and every action before he begins it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make a chart

and check before having sex with his wife, that this will give him child or not

?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured many persons

of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not indulge in

same. Karma is the main Dharma.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because of one

reason alone; members were not able to see through your own original hoax. Learn

to predict within one minute course; you canceled the course and paid back fees

received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/. now how does fee of 3 student become

Rs.55,000/ because fees of one student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the

person who claimed to teach how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the

outcome of launch of this course only.

> > > > > > > > Am I Right.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as rightly said

by Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we will have some more

contemplations and issues to begin with,for discussions, so I will just curtail

further exchange on this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will-believe\

..html //

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some specific reason,

he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the world!

Wondering how?

> > > > > > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all his

wealth, about

> > > > > > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from Mysore

district.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were worshipped

in his

> > > > > > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was, except this

person, who is a

> > > > > > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was nobody in

his house, he

> > > > > > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they worship.

> > > > > > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many years, it

looked only

> > > > > > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the stone was

cleansed.

> > > > > > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention. And he was

amazed when

> > > > > > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled with

light.

> > > > > > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600 carats

each.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is censored

with its

> > > > > > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of USA + UK .

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to buy it.

> > > > > > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank over India

..

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt. that it

can pay India

> > > > > > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars approximate so

that is the way

> > > > > > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit when we

need it.

> > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small column on

it a week ago.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it about 15

days ago.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of Thar a

deposit of Oil

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what Kuwait has

in its stomach.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with another 30

years.

> > > > > > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has disproved

Einstein's 'Theory

> > > > > > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the existence of

a sub-atomic

> > > > > > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than that of

light, thereby

> > > > > > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of the

'Theory of

> > > > > > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the Institute of

Advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan has proved

the existence

> > > > > > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called leptons', which

can travel

> > > > > > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked by this

discovery.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has this to say

about the

> > > > > > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long, careful and

critical

> > > > > > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's research

papers show

> > > > > > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics. His

investigation

> > > > > > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds substantially on

the work of

> > > > > > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried to measure

Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in Delhi ),

the meter broke

> > > > > > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu Reddy,

the Indian whiz

> > > > > > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior to

Microsoft Windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

I have said that, but in what context ? You must not remove a few ,lines

from the part of the whole to give it a new meaning. Must you ? I have

said this as far as I remember for spurious astrologers who use Big

names and dupe innocent people by projecting them as their followers.

I will remind you what you have written as coming from me.

// // They will take some Big shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and

say that they also follow his system. Do You know why ? This creates

impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar which Vijay

Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > >

You actually meant to say, that I must not use my Gurus name or say that

I am his follower, or his system ? But why must I not say so. When I am

talking the truth.

If I am saying that I have learnt from a Guru who is a direct descendant

shishya of Shri Krishna Murthy system, then I am mentioning the truth.

I have mentioned the hierarchy in writing on this group. Prove it wrong

legally or in any which way. I have been granted my " Nakshatra Jyotish

Ratna " from his hands in front of a audience of 50 KP Astrologers, and

they have listened to my small speech of thanksgiving too. I have my

Obituary in writing in the KP Ezine magazine which must have been read

by more than 5000 KP followers uptil now. So whats the untruth there ?

My gurus son, wife, and all senior astrologers of KP know this. Why must

I not say that I am following his system.

Yes but if I ask you not to use name of Pt. Joshiji the originator of

Lal Kitab, then it would make sense. Because you have not learnt under

him .But would I ask you not to do this ? Never. Whether you have been

his student or not, does not make a difference, as long as you are

following his system to the core with respect , faith and reverence.

And even if one has learnt directly under his Guru, one must not take

his name unless he is able to show his prowess in the learning and

upkeep his Gurus name and respect. I have learnt under direct hierachy

and am confident and proud of my learning, so theres no issue of my not

taking his name.

In same manner it need not be that one learn directly or not. As long as

one is true to the teachings of the one whom he calls his Guru, he can

use his name and say that he follows his system.

I hope now you will not bring out any further objections or

dissapprovals, because this tends to take up extra time and enrgy, which

can be utilised for better useful work or study.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " kulbir "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji; Rest Assured. My heart is absolutely clear. You only

said Big names should not be quoted and yourself did so. Hence this

confusion. I got your point.

> Regards

> Kulbir.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > That example was given with reference to the context and to stress

home a point that a person who may be healing others may not necessarily

be using his Divine powers on himself.

> >

> > The above example came with reference and in reply to your remarks

on why I did not know what would be the outcome of the course before

issuing an offer for the same. I do not use astrology for small matters

as the one in question. Unless I am going to invest some good amount of

money in some new project which is not a part of my daily profession, I

will not go into such type of checking.

> >

> > But the lines you reproduced from my own mails, still does not

justify any co-relation for writing those.

> >

> > I again hope that you will still come out clear with what you

exactly want to say, so that your heart becomes clear.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji, yes you are absolutely justified; i may be wrong

but i thought it highly inappropriate of a person of your caliber

quoting Ramkrishna Paramhansa's example in that mail.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains.

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > >

> > > > Now you are playing games. My previous assertion of not giving

reasons, does not demand a requisition for you to demand me a reply for

my not having mentioned reasons.

> > > >

> > > > But I am completely justified in asking you the same, since you

have addressed the mail personally to me and as well as the remarks too.

In Your case if you are hinting at some insiniuations where the intent

of the content is not bonafide probably but malafide, then one must be

clear and out with the actual intent, so that the other person

> > > > has the chance to answer or counter reply the allegations made

if any.

> > > >

> > > > Hre we are not even sure whether you are making any allegations

or what.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message

no. 29954 dated 12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we

will have some more contemplations and issues to begin with,for

discussions, so I will just curtail further exchange on

> > > > > this.//

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take

some Big shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also

follow his system. Do You know why ? This creates impression. I ask you

if I smoke the ame brand of cigar which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it

make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of

above with your reply ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kulbir "

<kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna

Paramhansa cured many persons of their ills but could not cure his own

throat Cancer ?// NEVER; because i take lessons from learned people like

your goodself too seriously. Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 //

They will take some Big shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say

that they also follow his system. Do You know why ? This creates

impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar which Vijay

Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the

time I came back with the call for closure of the course, I had received

money from one more member. Got it Sir ? That made the total to

Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000 (Advance part payment).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > > > > > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > > > > > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes

last in my order of importance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > another point-

> > > > > > > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right

Muhurtha for each and every action before he begins it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make

a chart and check before having sex with his wife, that this will give

him child or not ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured

many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not

indulge in same. Karma is the main Dharma.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because

of one reason alone; members were not able to see through your own

original hoax. Learn to predict within one minute course; you canceled

the course and paid back fees received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/.

now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/ because fees of one

student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who claimed to teach

how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of launch of

this course only.

> > > > > > > > > Am I Right.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as

rightly said by Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we

will have some more contemplations and issues to begin with,for

discussions, so I will just curtail further exchange on this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

" kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will\

-believe.html //

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some

specific reason, he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the

world! Wondering how?

> > > > > > > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all

his wealth, about

> > > > > > > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from

Mysore district.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were

worshipped in his

> > > > > > > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was,

except this person, who is a

> > > > > > > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was

nobody in his house, he

> > > > > > > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they

worship.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many

years, it looked only

> > > > > > > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the

stone was cleansed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention.

And he was amazed when

> > > > > > > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled

with light.

> > > > > > > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600

carats each.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is

censored with its

> > > > > > > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of

USA + UK .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to

buy it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank

over India .

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt.

that it can pay India

> > > > > > > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars

approximate so that is the way

> > > > > > > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit

when we need it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small

column on it a week ago.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it

about 15 days ago.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of

Thar a deposit of Oil

> > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what

Kuwait has in its stomach.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with

another 30 years.

> > > > > > > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has

disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the

existence of a sub-atomic

> > > > > > > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than

that of light, thereby

> > > > > > > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of

the 'Theory of

> > > > > > > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the

Institute of Advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan

has proved the existence

> > > > > > > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called

leptons', which can travel

> > > > > > > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked

by this discovery.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has

this to say about the

> > > > > > > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long,

careful and critical

> > > > > > > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's

research papers show

> > > > > > > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics.

His investigation

> > > > > > > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds

substantially on the work of

> > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried

to measure Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in

Delhi ), the meter broke

> > > > > > > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu

Reddy, the Indian whiz

> > > > > > > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior

to Microsoft Windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 12, 2009

Dear Bhaskar Ji; the confusion was caused by revered Ramakrishna Paramhas ji's

name, may be i was not in right frame of mind. Will take extra care in future.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> I have said that, but in what context ? You must not remove a few ,lines

> from the part of the whole to give it a new meaning. Must you ? I have

> said this as far as I remember for spurious astrologers who use Big

> names and dupe innocent people by projecting them as their followers.

>

> I will remind you what you have written as coming from me.

>

> // // They will take some Big shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and

> say that they also follow his system. Do You know why ? This creates

> impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar which Vijay

> Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > >

>

> You actually meant to say, that I must not use my Gurus name or say that

> I am his follower, or his system ? But why must I not say so. When I am

> talking the truth.

>

> If I am saying that I have learnt from a Guru who is a direct descendant

> shishya of Shri Krishna Murthy system, then I am mentioning the truth.

> I have mentioned the hierarchy in writing on this group. Prove it wrong

> legally or in any which way. I have been granted my " Nakshatra Jyotish

> Ratna " from his hands in front of a audience of 50 KP Astrologers, and

> they have listened to my small speech of thanksgiving too. I have my

> Obituary in writing in the KP Ezine magazine which must have been read

> by more than 5000 KP followers uptil now. So whats the untruth there ?

> My gurus son, wife, and all senior astrologers of KP know this. Why must

> I not say that I am following his system.

>

> Yes but if I ask you not to use name of Pt. Joshiji the originator of

> Lal Kitab, then it would make sense. Because you have not learnt under

> him .But would I ask you not to do this ? Never. Whether you have been

> his student or not, does not make a difference, as long as you are

> following his system to the core with respect , faith and reverence.

>

> And even if one has learnt directly under his Guru, one must not take

> his name unless he is able to show his prowess in the learning and

> upkeep his Gurus name and respect. I have learnt under direct hierachy

> and am confident and proud of my learning, so theres no issue of my not

> taking his name.

>

> In same manner it need not be that one learn directly or not. As long as

> one is true to the teachings of the one whom he calls his Guru, he can

> use his name and say that he follows his system.

>

> I hope now you will not bring out any further objections or

> dissapprovals, because this tends to take up extra time and enrgy, which

> can be utilised for better useful work or study.

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji; Rest Assured. My heart is absolutely clear. You only

> said Big names should not be quoted and yourself did so. Hence this

> confusion. I got your point.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir.

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > That example was given with reference to the context and to stress

> home a point that a person who may be healing others may not necessarily

> be using his Divine powers on himself.

> > >

> > > The above example came with reference and in reply to your remarks

> on why I did not know what would be the outcome of the course before

> issuing an offer for the same. I do not use astrology for small matters

> as the one in question. Unless I am going to invest some good amount of

> money in some new project which is not a part of my daily profession, I

> will not go into such type of checking.

> > >

> > > But the lines you reproduced from my own mails, still does not

> justify any co-relation for writing those.

> > >

> > > I again hope that you will still come out clear with what you

> exactly want to say, so that your heart becomes clear.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, yes you are absolutely justified; i may be wrong

> but i thought it highly inappropriate of a person of your caliber

> quoting Ramkrishna Paramhansa's example in that mail.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Now you are playing games. My previous assertion of not giving

> reasons, does not demand a requisition for you to demand me a reply for

> my not having mentioned reasons.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I am completely justified in asking you the same, since you

> have addressed the mail personally to me and as well as the remarks too.

> In Your case if you are hinting at some insiniuations where the intent

> of the content is not bonafide probably but malafide, then one must be

> clear and out with the actual intent, so that the other person

> > > > > has the chance to answer or counter reply the allegations made

> if any.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hre we are not even sure whether you are making any allegations

> or what.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; the answer is again a quote from your message

> no. 29954 dated 12-12-2009 // but if I mention those reasons now, we

> will have some more contemplations and issues to begin with,for

> discussions, so I will just curtail further exchange on

> > > > > > this.//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 // They will take

> some Big shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say that they also

> follow his system. Do You know why ? This creates impression. I ask you

> if I smoke the ame brand of cigar which Vijay Mallya smokes, does it

> make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Can You be more clear and specific of the co-relation of

> above with your reply ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, //Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna

> Paramhansa cured many persons of their ills but could not cure his own

> throat Cancer ?// NEVER; because i take lessons from learned people like

> your goodself too seriously. Your Message no 25550 dated 30-9-2009 //

> They will take some Big shots (Astrologer who is famous)name and say

> that they also follow his system. Do You know why ? This creates

> impression. I ask you if I smoke the ame brand of cigar which Vijay

> Mallya smokes, does it make me Vijay Mallya ?//

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Too much of assumptions can land one in trouble.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The Fees returned turned to Rs.55000/ because by the

> time I came back with the call for closure of the course, I had received

> money from one more member. Got it Sir ? That made the total to

> Rs.55000.(15000+ 15000 + 15000 + 10000 (Advance part payment).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I personally believe one must live Life in this Order -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1) Faith in ones own Karma.

> > > > > > > > > 2) Faith in God,

> > > > > > > > > 3) faith in astrology.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am basically a Karmayogi first and Astrology comes

> last in my order of importance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > another point-

> > > > > > > > > One should not look at astrological inputs or right

> Muhurtha for each and every action before he begins it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > > > > Do You mean to say that every astrologer mist first make

> a chart and check before having sex with his wife, that this will give

> him child or not ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > another point -

> > > > > > > > > Tomoroow you may say that Ramkrishna Paramhansa cured

> many persons of their ills but could not cure his own throat Cancer ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sir, too much contemplations is a waste of time. Do not

> indulge in same. Karma is the main Dharma.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; You resorted to this message because

> of one reason alone; members were not able to see through your own

> original hoax. Learn to predict within one minute course; you canceled

> the course and paid back fees received from 3 students = Rs. 55,000/.

> now how does fee of 3 student become Rs.55,000/ because fees of one

> student was Rs.15,000. More importantly; the person who claimed to teach

> how to predict in one minute couldn't predict the outcome of launch of

> this course only.

> > > > > > > > > > Am I Right.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I had some reasons for putting this post, as

> rightly said by Shri Kulbirji, but if I mention those reasons now, we

> will have some more contemplations and issues to begin with,for

> discussions, so I will just curtail further exchange on this.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members: please find the best answer at //

> http://relativeconstant.blogspot.com/2009/07/hoaxes-and-what-people-will\

> -believe.html //

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji doesn't writes without some

> specific reason, he obviously wants to convey some message.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

> " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Right now, India is the richest country in the

> world! Wondering how?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's really amazing.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) It's due to Mr. G Vaidyaraj, who donated all

> his wealth, about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > which he actually did not know.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He is a descendent of Raja Krishnadev Raya from

> Mysore district.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > For the last 300 years or so, three stones were

> worshipped in his

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house.But nobody tried to see what it was,

> except this person, who is a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lawyer by profession. One day, when there was

> nobody in his house, he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > took the stone out to see what it was that they

> worship.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Due to the dust deposited on it, from many many

> years, it looked only

> > > > > > > > > > > > > like a simple stone.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > But when he touched it, some portion of the

> stone was cleansed.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And he saw a bright ray of light.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He saw something which attracted his attention.

> And he was amazed when

> > > > > > > > > > > > > he cleaned all of them.The whole room was filled

> with light.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He discovered they were diamonds of about 4600

> carats each.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He informed the Govt. of India and the news is

> censored with its

> > > > > > > > > > > > > security.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's now deposited in a Swiss Bank.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The cost of single diamond exceeds the GDP of

> USA + UK .

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Even World Bank does not have enough money to

> buy it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > India can buy virtually 7 developing nations.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > One diamond costs thrice the debt of World Bank

> over India .

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > One such diamond can buy 10 Bill Gates to you.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And the World Bank has proposed the Indian Govt.

> that it can pay India

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in Installment if it wishes to do so.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > India 's GDP is 34.25 billion dollars.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Gates property is 95 billion dollars

> approximate so that is the way

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 'nature changes'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Prime Minister has refused to sell it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He said it will be sold or mortgaged for credit

> when we need it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise right now we have no problems.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can go through Times of India with a small

> column on it a week ago.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Star TV presented a 115 min documentary on it

> about 15 days ago.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Hindu with its half page article in it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > After that it was censored as classified.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) Another good news is that in the Desert of

> Thar a deposit of Oil

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Natural gas have been found. This stores what

> Kuwait has in its stomach.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > India can go with this ONGC energy reserve with

> another 30 years.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And moreover it can export it to other counties.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's incredible!! But true.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (3) An Indian boy in his 12th standard has

> disproved Einstein's 'Theory

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Shocked? Read on...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan Reddy has theoretically proven the

> existence of a sub-atomic

> > > > > > > > > > > > > particle, which can travel at speed greater than

> that of light, thereby

> > > > > > > > > > > > > challenging one of the fundamental postulates of

> the 'Theory of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Relativity'.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > In his recent research paper submitted to the

> Institute of Advanced

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Physics (IAP) at Trieste ( Italy ), Sudarshan

> has proved the existence

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of a class of sub-atomic particles called

> leptons', which can travel

> > > > > > > > > > > > > faster than light.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The international physics community is shocked

> by this discovery.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr.Massimo Martelli, President of the IAP has

> this to say about the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > paper submitted by Sudarshan. 'After long,

> careful and critical

> > > > > > > > > > > > > analysis, I can confidently say that Sudarshan's

> research papers show

> > > > > > > > > > > > > tremendous leap in our understanding of physics.

> His investigation

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mounts up on 'leptons'.. His work builds

> substantially on the work of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein and others in the field of relativity.'

> > > > > > > > > > > > > When physicists from Princeton University tried

> to measure Sudarshan's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > IQ with an IQ-meter (at the American Embassy in

> Delhi ), the meter broke

> > > > > > > > > > > > > down.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sudarshan, incidentally, is the brother of Madhu

> Reddy, the Indian whiz

> > > > > > > > > > > > > kid who developed an operating system superior

> to Microsoft Windows.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > We should all be very proud of these boys.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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