Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

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Dear Learned Members,We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true in my case!! Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its "good" and "bad" lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said "happiness is a state of mind" was correct..I would like to know what other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.Vidya

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Very well said Vidya ji. Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqdir se pehle, GRAH bande se ye poche bata teri raza kya hai (Sorry Iqbal ji for slight distortion!)Its all a state of mind, or as someone advocated a mindless state?

No who gets what is also important! Banda bada ki Planet!That'll bring us to the same much debated issue of freewill.RegardsNeelam2009/12/12 Vidya <vidyakmr

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Learned Members,We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true in my case!!

Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad " lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

Vidya 

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dear Vidya ji,

 

Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with good

or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which results

will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad depending on the

individual Horocope concerned.

 

Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last birth

and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be represented

by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this chart for him.

Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be reflected as Venus in

this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who will take back and

settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in

their charts.

 

Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need not

ask me for proofs.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the

> greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest

> malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true

> in my case!!

> Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point

> in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad "

> lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives

> depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said

> " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what

> other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

>

> Vidya

>

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Dear Neemal Ji,

 

As always your responses are always meaningful, and much appreciated..However, I

did not get the meaning of the poetic lines by you despite Hindi being my mother

tongue. Would you mind translating.

 

Vidya

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Very well said Vidya ji.

> Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqdir se pehle, GRAH bande se ye poche bata

> teri raza kya hai (Sorry Iqbal ji for slight distortion!)

>

> Its all a state of mind, or as someone advocated a mindless state?

>

> No who gets what is also important! Banda bada ki Planet!

> That'll bring us to the same much debated issue of freewill.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

> 2009/12/12 Vidya <vidyakmr

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the greatest

> > benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest malefic) is

> > always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true in my case!!

> > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point in

> > our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad " lies much

> > with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives depends

> > on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said " happiness is a

> > state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what other members have to

> > say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> >

>

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Dear Vidya ji,This is an Urdu couplet by Iqbal. A translation might not do justice to it, but it would some what imply: make yourself so strong that before writing your destiny, even God asks you, “tell me, what is your desire?”

I replaced Khuda (God) in the original verse by GRAHA (planet). Its something like where there’s a will (strong mind as you said), there’s a way. And Planets must oblige! (Don't ask me how far they really do!)

Hope that helps.RegardsNeelam

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// (Don't ask me how far they really do!)//

 

This one made me smile. if somebody asks us this, we really would not be able to

reply with any conviction or honesty of experience as such.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vidya ji,

>

> This is an Urdu couplet by Iqbal. A translation might not do justice to it,

> but it would some what imply: make yourself so strong that before writing

> your destiny, even God asks you, " tell me, what is your desire? "

>

> I replaced Khuda (God) in the original verse by GRAHA (planet). Its

> something like where there's a will (strong mind as you said), there's a

> way. And Planets must oblige! (Don't ask me how far they really do!)

>

> Hope that helps.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost

everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events

happening.

 

Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has

Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He

is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign

leo.

So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks,

fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an

arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states

since then his life has been " pure hell " . He says he has no happiness from his

wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So

you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart

looking good.

 

Vidya

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> dear Vidya ji,

>

> Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with good

or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which results

will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad depending on the

individual Horocope concerned.

>

> Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last birth

and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be represented

by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this chart for him.

Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be reflected as Venus in

this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who will take back and

settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in

their charts.

>

> Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need

not ask me for proofs.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the

> > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest

> > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true

> > in my case!!

> > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point

> > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad "

> > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives

> > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said

> > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what

> > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

>

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Dear vidyaji,Goodmorning.I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and mars lord of aries is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasa irrespective of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very good in 10 and it proved in my chart. It was so good that i cant recall any significant negative even during this md.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Vidya" <vidyakmrSat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11 -0000 Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events happening.Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign leo.So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states since then his life has been " pure hell " . He says he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.Vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> dear Vidya ji,> > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with good or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned. > > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who will take back and settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.> > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need not ask me for proofs.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:> >> > Dear Learned Members,> > > > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the> > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest> > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true> > in my case!!> > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point> > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad " > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.> > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad> > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives> > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said> > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what> > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.> > > > Vidya> >>

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Dear Vidya ji,What you've experienced may be a small spectrum of reality. There are many who would vouch for a good Rahu dasha.In any case no planet can be solely and singularly responsible for good or bad in a chart for 16 long years. Also MD lord does not give its own results in ts Mahadasha. It only dictates some general guidelines.

RegardsNeelam2009/12/12 Vidya <vidyakmr

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events happening.

 

Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign leo.

So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states since then his life has been " pure hell " . He says he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.

 

Vidya

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> dear Vidya ji,

>

> Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with good or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

>

> Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who will take back and settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.

>

> Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need not ask me for proofs.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the

> > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest

> > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true

> > in my case!!

> > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point

> > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad "

> > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives

> > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said

> > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what

> > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,Jyotish would have no charm without this ENIGMA! Nor would life!!:-)RegardsNeelam2009/12/12 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

 

 

 

 

 

 

// (Don't ask me how far they really do!)//

 

This one made me smile. if somebody asks us this, we really would not be able to reply with any conviction or honesty of experience as such.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vidya ji,

>

> This is an Urdu couplet by Iqbal. A translation might not do justice to it,

> but it would some what imply: make yourself so strong that before writing

> your destiny, even God asks you, " tell me, what is your desire? "

>

> I replaced Khuda (God) in the original verse by GRAHA (planet). Its

> something like where there's a will (strong mind as you said), there's a

> way. And Planets must oblige! (Don't ask me how far they really do!)

>

> Hope that helps.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vidya ji,

 

No dasa can be absolute good or bad.

 

The antardashas will make a great difference to what effects the Mahadasha Lord

will indicate. Whenever the Mahadasha Lord indicates evil results and so does

any antardasha, then the evils will be maginified. And whenever any particular

antardasha shows positive results then the relief will be felt.

 

For me the Rahu mahadasha started with a very positive note and the Rahu-Rahu

antardasha was one of the best periods of my Life. Am currently into the Guru

period which results will let you know when ot is completed.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

>

> Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost

everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events

happening.

>

> Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has

Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He

is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign

leo.

> So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks,

fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an

arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states

since then his life has been " pure hell " . He says he has no happiness from his

wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So

you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart

looking good.

>

> Vidya

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > dear Vidya ji,

> >

> > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with

good or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which

results will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad

depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

> >

> > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last

birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be

represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this

chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be

reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who

will take back and settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for

other natives in their charts.

> >

> > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need

not ask me for proofs.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Learned Members,

> > >

> > > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the

> > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest

> > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true

> > > in my case!!

> > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point

> > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad "

> > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives

> > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said

> > > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what

> > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

namaste, Vidya.

 

While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a " learned member of this group " , I

will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa

periods - Rahu and Jupiter.

 

I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in Taurus.

Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses and

conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

conjoins my Sun.

 

My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my

18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday and ended

16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be " transformative " through

change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which is often

the case. The first major " change " was awakening to the fact that, upon

graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself (my

mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I am the

eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart. My

wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and

third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the first trimester (as I

recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about 43

minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave me an

unforgettable spiritual awakening.

 

I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and also

had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in a

kendra house).

 

Jupiter period was " kinder " , as I recall; though this, too, was a very

tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house of change/transformation).

Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career

progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occur in a

very smooth series of transitions.

 

As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I am aware

of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. I hope

this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.

 

namaste, David LaGrone

[Guest guest]

Dear Santosh Ji, Bahskar Ji,

 

Thank you for sharing your experience, and I am quite amazed at the results of

your rahu dasas!!!

I would assume depositor and a well placed rahu makes a difference. By the way

where does he get exalted?

As you know I am still new to astrology and have not looked at too many charts

yet. My knowledge is still limited to lordships, signs, placement, exaltation/

debilitation, degrees, aspects only.. Unlike most of you I haven't dug deep into

any charts so I just jumped to conclusion with my friends chart assuming his

life should be good since he has no planets in any of the evil houses like

3,6,8,12..

 

Vidya

 

, santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear vidyaji,

> Goodmorning.

> I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and mars lord of aries

is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.

> Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasa irrespective

of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very good in 10 and it proved in my chart.

It was so good that i cant recall any significant negative even during this md.

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> " Vidya " <vidyakmr

> Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11

>

> Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

>

>

> Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost

everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events

happening.

>

> Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has

Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He

is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign

leo.

> So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks,

fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an

arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states

since then his life has been " pure hell " . He says he has no happiness from his

wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So

you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart

looking good.

>

> Vidya

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > dear Vidya ji,

> >

> > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with

good or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which

results will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad

depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

> >

> > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last

birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be

represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this

chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be

reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who

will take back and settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for

other natives in their charts.

> >

> > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need

not ask me for proofs.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Learned Members,

> > >

> > > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the

> > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest

> > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true

> > > in my case!!

> > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point

> > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad "

> > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives

> > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said

> > > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what

> > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vidya ji,

 

Planets being in 6th , 8th or 12th does not necessarily mar a Horoscope, but at

times can rather make one.

 

There are other rules which negate these placements which i will not go into at

the moment for acceptance of same may not be readily available.

 

By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4 planets in the

8th house.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

> Dear Santosh Ji, Bahskar Ji,

>

> Thank you for sharing your experience, and I am quite amazed at the results of

your rahu dasas!!!

> I would assume depositor and a well placed rahu makes a difference. By the way

where does he get exalted?

> As you know I am still new to astrology and have not looked at too many charts

yet. My knowledge is still limited to lordships, signs, placement, exaltation/

debilitation, degrees, aspects only.. Unlike most of you I haven't dug deep into

any charts so I just jumped to conclusion with my friends chart assuming his

life should be good since he has no planets in any of the evil houses like

3,6,8,12..

>

> Vidya

>

> , santhosh@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear vidyaji,

> > Goodmorning.

> > I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and mars lord of aries

is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.

> > Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasa

irrespective of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very good in 10 and it proved

in my chart. It was so good that i cant recall any significant negative even

during this md.

> > Regards

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

> > Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11

> >

> > Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

> >

> >

> > Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost

everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events

happening.

> >

> > Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has

Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He

is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign

leo.

> > So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks,

fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an

arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states

since then his life has been " pure hell " . He says he has no happiness from his

wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So

you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart

looking good.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear Vidya ji,

> > >

> > > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with

good or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which

results will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad

depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

> > >

> > > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last

birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be

represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this

chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be

reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who

will take back and settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for

other natives in their charts.

> > >

> > > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one

need not ask me for proofs.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Learned Members,

> > > >

> > > > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the

> > > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest

> > > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true

> > > > in my case!!

> > > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point

> > > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good " and " bad "

> > > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad

> > > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives

> > > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said

> > > > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to know what

> > > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.

> > > >

> > > > Vidya

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj Ji,Thanks for the explanation!! Your response is always so clear, detailed,and to the point I always find it very helpful. By the way do you have the birth detail of Mr. Travolota just for learning purpose..Vidya , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Vidya Ji,> > Basic rules for Nodes is since they are only shadow planets, they tend to amplify/reflect energies of planets conjunct with them, their Rashi dispositor, their Nakshatra dispositors and planets they form yoga with and their Navamsha dispositors. So, in reality, deciphering effects of Nodes is the most difficult/subtle aspects in Jyotish.> > So in your friend's chart, I bet, if you analyze all the above factors, the answer would be clear.> > FYI, please look up John Travalto's chart. His Rahu dasha catapulted him from a star literaly begging for roles to the 20 million dollar - a -movie Star that he is today.> > Another point is Rahu in kendras/Konas can give great material benifits (all other factors listed above considered). Regarding marital bliss .... that is not the forte of Rahu.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ________________________________> neelam gupta neelamgupta07 > Sat, December 12, 2009 9:23:58 AM> Re: Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa> >  > Dear Vidya ji,> > What you've experienced may be a small spectrum of reality. There are many who would vouch for a good Rahu dasha.> > In any case no planet can be solely and singularly responsible for good or bad in a chart for 16 long years. Also MD lord does not give its own results in ts Mahadasha. It only dictates some general guidelines.> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/12 Vidya vidyakmr >> >  > >> >Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu dasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as in negative events happening.> >> >Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus Lagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with benefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is placed in 4th house sign leo.> >So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e. attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married life. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running) out of necessity and states since then his life has been "pure hell". He says he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed in taking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostly been bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.> >> >Vidya> >> >> >ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >>> >> dear Vidya ji,> >> > >> Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing to do with good or bad. The only difference between them is characteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planets can be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned. > >> > >> Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in his last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that person will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will reflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady then that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart and may now come as a wife who will take back and settle the accounts. The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.> >> > >> Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations, so one need not ask me for proofs.> >> > >> regards,> >> Bhaskar.> >> > >> > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vidya" <vidyakmr@> wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Learned Members,> >> > > >> > We know after learning some astrology that generally Jupiter(the> >> > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa (greatest> >> > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it was true> >> > in my case!!> >> > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at some point> >> > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its "good" and "bad"> >> > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.> >> > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and unaffiliated the bad> >> > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our lives> >> > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever said> >> > "happiness is a state of mind" was correct..I would like to know what> >> > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2 planets.> >> > > >> > Vidya> >> >> >>> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear David Ji, Thanks for sharing your experience with the group..Its always

helpful to learn from practical experience so we can apply the rules into our

lives.

 

Vidya

, " David " <dvdlagr wrote:

>

>

> namaste, Vidya.

>

> While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a " learned member of this group " , I

> will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa

> periods - Rahu and Jupiter.

>

> I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in Taurus.

> Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses and

> conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

> conjoins my Sun.

>

> My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my

> 18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday and ended

> 16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be " transformative " through

> change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which is often

> the case. The first major " change " was awakening to the fact that, upon

> graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself (my

> mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I am the

> eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart. My

> wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and

> third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the first trimester (as I

> recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about 43

> minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave me an

> unforgettable spiritual awakening.

>

> I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and also

> had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

> associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in a

> kendra house).

>

> Jupiter period was " kinder " , as I recall; though this, too, was a very

> tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house of change/transformation).

> Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career

> progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occur in a

> very smooth series of transitions.

>

> As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I am aware

> of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. I hope

> this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.

>

> namaste, David LaGrone

>

[Guest guest]

Dear David,I guess this is your first post here. Welcome to the group. Just a couple of clarifications, if they're typos we may remove them.I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in Taurus.

Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses and

conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

 

conjoins my Sun.Ketu should be in lagna and not conjoined Saturn and Jupiter in 12H?Libra is not seventh house for taurus lagna.I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and also

had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in a

kendra house).If Rahu is conjunct Sun, it is your 4L. And if its is in Libra, that's not kendra for taurus.If Jup-sat are in Aries, Rahu may not be in Libra, but Virgo! lease check.Regards

Neelam2009/12/12 David <dvdlagr

 

 

 

 

 

 

namaste, Vidya.

 

While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a " learned member of this group " , I

will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa

periods - Rahu and Jupiter.

 

I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in Taurus.

Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses and

conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

conjoins my Sun.

 

My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my

18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday and ended

16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be " transformative " through

change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which is often

the case. The first major " change " was awakening to the fact that, upon

graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself (my

mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I am the

eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart. My

wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and

third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the first trimester (as I

recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about 43

minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave me an

unforgettable spiritual awakening.

 

I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and also

had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in a

kendra house).

 

Jupiter period was " kinder " , as I recall; though this, too, was a very

tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house of change/transformation).

Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career

progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occur in a

very smooth series of transitions.

 

As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I am aware

of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. I hope

this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.

 

namaste, David LaGrone

[Guest guest]

Dear Vidya ji,Sorry to say, but how will you learn from a 'practical experience' with so many errors?That means either you didn't read carefully or didn't quite understand what was being said!

RegardsNeelam2009/12/12 Vidya <vidyakmr

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear David Ji, Thanks for sharing your experience with the group..Its always helpful to learn from practical experience so we can apply the rules into our lives.

 

Vidya

, " David " <dvdlagr wrote:

>

>

> namaste, Vidya.

>

> While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a " learned member of this group " , I

> will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa

> periods - Rahu and Jupiter.

>

> I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in Taurus.

> Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses and

> conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

> conjoins my Sun.

>

> My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my

> 18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday and ended

> 16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be " transformative " through

> change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which is often

> the case. The first major " change " was awakening to the fact that, upon

> graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself (my

> mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I am the

> eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart. My

> wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and

> third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the first trimester (as I

> recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about 43

> minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave me an

> unforgettable spiritual awakening.

>

> I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and also

> had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

> associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in a

> kendra house).

>

> Jupiter period was " kinder " , as I recall; though this, too, was a very

> tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house of change/transformation).

> Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career

> progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occur in a

> very smooth series of transitions.

>

> As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I am aware

> of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. I hope

> this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.

>

> namaste, David LaGrone

>

[Guest guest]

namaste, Neelam, Vidya, and others.

 

Mea culpa...and my most sincere apologies for the errors in my post! The

only explanation is not paying attention to what I was writing. I might

claim I was having a " senior moment " ; but my belief is that I JUST WAS

NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

 

The Taurus ascendant is correct, however. And the Sun IS debilitated;

though not ruling my 5th house. Venus and Mercury are both in 8th-house

Scorpio; and (FWIW) Mars is in Aquarius. Rahu IS, indeed, in Libra; and

Kethu is in Aries.

 

For completeness, I must add that I am a student of Ernst Wilhelm and,

per his guidance, use tropical rasis, Dhruva ayanamsa, and sidereal

nakshatras. Furthermore, my birth data is:

 

October 19, 1939

6:53 pm CST

Tulsa, OK

36N09 96W00

 

Again, my apologies! I will take this as yet another reminder to PAY

ATTENTION!!!

 

namaste, David

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear David,

>

> I guess this is your first post here. Welcome to the group.

> Just a couple of clarifications, if they're typos we may remove them.

>

> I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in

Taurus.

> Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses

and

> conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

> conjoins my Sun.

>

> Ketu should be in lagna and not conjoined Saturn and Jupiter in 12H?

> Libra is not seventh house for taurus lagna.

>

> I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and

also

> had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

> associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in

a

> kendra house).

>

> If Rahu is conjunct Sun, it is your 4L. And if its is in Libra, that's

not

> kendra for taurus.

>

> If Jup-sat are in Aries, Rahu may not be in Libra, but Virgo! lease

check.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

2009/12/12 David dvdlagr

>

> >

> >

> >

> > namaste, Vidya.

> >

> > While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a " learned member of this group " , I

> > will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa

> > periods - Rahu and Jupiter.

> >

> > I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in

Taurus.

> > Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses

and

> > conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

> > conjoins my Sun.

> >

> > My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my

> > 18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday and

ended

> > 16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be " transformative "

through

> > change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which is

often

> > the case. The first major " change " was awakening to the fact that,

upon

> > graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself

(my

> > mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I am

the

> > eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart.

My

> > wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and

> > third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the first trimester (as I

> > recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about

43

> > minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave me

an

> > unforgettable spiritual awakening.

> >

> > I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and

also

> > had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which

I

> > associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord

in a

> > kendra house).

> >

> > Jupiter period was " kinder " , as I recall; though this, too, was a

very

> > tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house of

change/transformation).

> > Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career

> > progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occur

in a

> > very smooth series of transitions.

> >

> > As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I am

aware

> > of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. I

hope

> > this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.

> >

> > namaste, David LaGrone

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are right Neelam Ji I did make a mistake for not reading the post carefully

in reference to his planet lordship/ placement. I realized it after submitting

the post..I was too focused on knowing about his experience during those

dasas..Must be my afflicted Mercury!!

 

Vidya

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Vidya ji,

>

> Sorry to say, but how will you learn from a 'practical experience' with so

> many errors?

> That means either you didn't read carefully or didn't quite understand what

> was being said!

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

> 2009/12/12 Vidya <vidyakmr

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear David Ji, Thanks for sharing your experience with the group..Its

> > always helpful to learn from practical experience so we can apply the rules

> > into our lives.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > " David " <dvdlagr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > namaste, Vidya.

> > >

> > > While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a " learned member of this group " , I

> > > will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa

> > > periods - Rahu and Jupiter.

> > >

> > > I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna in Taurus.

> > > Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-houses and

> > > conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and

> > > conjoins my Sun.

> > >

> > > My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my

> > > 18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday and ended

> > > 16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be " transformative " through

> > > change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which is often

> > > the case. The first major " change " was awakening to the fact that, upon

> > > graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself (my

> > > mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I am the

> > > eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart. My

> > > wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and

> > > third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the first trimester (as I

> > > recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about 43

> > > minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave me an

> > > unforgettable spiritual awakening.

> > >

> > > I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, and also

> > > had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (which I

> > > associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord in a

> > > kendra house).

> > >

> > > Jupiter period was " kinder " , as I recall; though this, too, was a very

> > > tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house of change/transformation).

> > > Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career

> > > progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occur in a

> > > very smooth series of transitions.

> > >

> > > As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I am aware

> > > of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. I hope

> > > this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.

> > >

> > > namaste, David LaGrone

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear David,

 

Since you use a completely different Ayanamsha/Nakshatra combo, please do include complete birth info in future, so the majority of us who use different Ayanamshas can relate to what is being discussed.

 

I use Lahiri Ayanamsha and I get Lagna as Aries. Rahu is in your 7H and he is with Me, Ve and deb Sun. Retrograde Saturn in the Lagna with Ketu makes 1-7 axis incredibly active with most of the Grahas in this Axis.

 

Rahu's Nak dispositor is Mars the LL and 8L. In navamsha Rahu is in Scorpio, the 8H of Rashi. Hence Rahu will display more the 8H qualities of Mars during his Dasha. 7H is a mixed bag. 7L in 7H but Afflicted. Rahu exhibiting Mars's 8L characterisitics brought you Many beginnings and Many endings in his Dasha.

 

Sun the 5L deb in most of the charts, most importantly Rashi, D-7, D-9 sets the stage for difficulties with children. There are several other subtelties but the above says the story quite well.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

David <dvdlagr Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 11:51:09 AM Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

namaste, Neelam, Vidya, and others.Mea culpa...and my most sincere apologies for the errors in my post! Theonly explanation is not paying attention to what I was writing. I mightclaim I was having a "senior moment"; but my belief is that I JUST WASNOT PAYING ATTENTION.The Taurus ascendant is correct, however. And the Sun IS debilitated;though not ruling my 5th house. Venus and Mercury are both in 8th-houseScorpio; and (FWIW) Mars is in Aquarius. Rahu IS, indeed, in Libra; andKethu is in Aries.For completeness, I must add that I am a student of Ernst Wilhelm and,per his guidance, use tropical rasis, Dhruva ayanamsa, and siderealnakshatras. Furthermore, my birth data is:October 19, 19396:53 pm CSTTulsa, OK36N09 96W00Again, my apologies! I will take this as yet another reminder to PAYATTENTION!!!namaste, Davidancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear David,>> I guess this is your first post here. Welcome to the group.> Just a couple of clarifications, if they're typos we may remove them.>> I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna inTaurus.> Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and 11th-housesand> conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and> conjoins my Sun.>> Ketu should be in lagna and not conjoined Saturn and Jupiter in 12H?> Libra is not seventh house for taurus lagna.>> I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, andalso> had many other emotionally

upsetting relationships with women (which I> associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lord ina> kendra house).>> If Rahu is conjunct Sun, it is your 4L. And if its is in Libra, that'snot> kendra for taurus.>> If Jup-sat are in Aries, Rahu may not be in Libra, but Virgo! leasecheck.>> Regards> Neelam>>>>>>> 2009/12/12 David dvdlagr> >> >> >> > namaste, Vidya.> >> > While I do not qualify, IMHO, as a "learned member of this group", I> > will share my perception of the general effects of these two dasa> > periods - Rahu and Jupiter.> >> > I begin by stating that I have Moon in Uttarashadha and lagna inTaurus.> > Jupiter is in the Aries 12th-house, ruling the 8th- and

11th-housesand> > conjoined Saturn and Kethu. And Rahu is in my Libra 7th-house and> > conjoins my Sun.> >> > My maha Rahu period (Vimshottari dasa) began shortly after my> > 18th-birthday; Jupiter period began following my 36th-birthday andended> > 16 years later. I consider Rahu periods to be "transformative"through> > change and 'malefic' only if one resists those changes - which isoften> > the case. The first major "change" was awakening to the fact that,upon> > graduation from college, I would have to start taking care of myself(my> > mother is a very protective person wrt her children, of which I amthe> > eldest). So, at the age of 20 I married my high-school sweetheart.My> > wife had four pregnancies with surviving children in the first and> > third. The fourth pregnancy was lost in the

first trimester (as I> > recall). My wife gave birth to the third; but the child died about43> > minutes after birth. This lost was very traumatic to me; but gave mean> > unforgettable spiritual awakening.> >> > I was divorced from my first and second wives during the dasa, andalso> > had many other emotionally upsetting relationships with women (whichI> > associate - in part, to Rahu conjoined a debilitated 5th-house lordin a> > kendra house).> >> > Jupiter period was "kinder", as I recall; though this, too, was avery> > tranformative period (Jupiter rules 8th-house ofchange/transformati on).> > Ruling my 11th-house and conjoined by 10th-house ruler, my career> > progressed with good financial rewards; although this did not occurin a> > very smooth series of transitions.>

>> > As Jupiter is conjoined yogakaraka Saturn in the 12th-house, I amaware> > of those many blessings that have - and continue, to come my way. Ihope> > this is meaningful to you - and others, in response to your message.> >> > namaste, David LaGrone> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Learned Members,

 

//By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4

planets in the8th house.//

 

Now I don't have Amitabh Bachan's birth chart but can anyone explain

how he rose to such great success in his professional life along with

amassing tremendous amount of wealth with 5 planets in dustana/ grief

producing house? We all know to well no one can match his skills/

expertise in his chosen craft.. Any method that explains his success is

fine for learning purpose.

 

Vidya

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Vidya ji,

>

> Planets being in 6th , 8th or 12th does not necessarily mar a

Horoscope, but at times can rather make one.

>

> There are other rules which negate these placements which i will not

go into at the moment for acceptance of same may not be readily

available.

>

> By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4

planets in the 8th house.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " Vidya " vidyakmr@

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Santosh Ji, Bahskar Ji,

> >

> > Thank you for sharing your experience, and I am quite amazed at the

results of your rahu dasas!!!

> > I would assume depositor and a well placed rahu makes a difference.

By the way where does he get exalted?

> > As you know I am still new to astrology and have not looked at too

many charts yet. My knowledge is still limited to lordships, signs,

placement, exaltation/ debilitation, degrees, aspects only.. Unlike most

of you I haven't dug deep into any charts so I just jumped to conclusion

with my friends chart assuming his life should be good since he has no

planets in any of the evil houses like 3,6,8,12..

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> > , santhosh@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear vidyaji,

> > > Goodmorning.

> > > I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and mars

lord of aries is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.

> > > Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasa

irrespective of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very good in 10 and it

proved in my chart. It was so good that i cant recall any significant

negative even during this md.

> > > Regards

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > >

> > >

> > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

> > > Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11

> > >

> > > Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

> > >

> > >

> > > Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu

dasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as

in negative events happening.

> > >

> > > Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus

Lagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with

benefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is

placed in 4th house sign leo.

> > > So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e.

attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married

life. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running)

out of necessity and states since then his life has been " pure hell " . He

says he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed in

taking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostly

been bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear Vidya ji,

> > > >

> > > > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing

to do with good or bad. The only difference between them is

characteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planets

can be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

> > > >

> > > > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in

his last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that

person will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will

reflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady

then that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart

and may now come as a wife who will take back and settle the accounts.

The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.

> > > >

> > > > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations,

so one need not ask me for proofs.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Vidya "

<vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Learned Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > We know after learning some astrology that generally

Jupiter(the

> > > > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa

(greatest

> > > > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it

was true

> > > > > in my case!!

> > > > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at

some point

> > > > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good "

and " bad "

> > > > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > > > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and

unaffiliated the bad

> > > > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our

lives

> > > > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever

said

> > > > > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to

know what

> > > > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2

planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vidya Ji,

 

//We all know to well no one can match his skills/ expertise in his chosen craf //

 

I beg to disagree .... but that is besides the point.

 

Planets in dusthana houses does not mean the person will not succeed, it has nothing to do with success. It is just that the path to success will not be a bed of roses, it will have the "dusthana" signature. Not sure if you have followed Big B's life but here is a list : Sudden Rise, Sudden Fall (disgrace), Bankruptcy, Humiliation, Affairs and Sex Scandals, Sex Appeal, Life Threatening Accidents, Ability to rise above all odds.

 

The last one is a 6H attribute. All others are 8H attributes. The Dusthana signatures are clear.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Vidya <vidyakmr Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 3:59:29 PM Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

Dear Learned Members,//By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4planets in the8th house.//Now I don't have Amitabh Bachan's birth chart but can anyone explainhow he rose to such great success in his professional life along with amassing tremendous amount of wealth with 5 planets in dustana/ griefproducing house? We all know to well no one can match his skills/expertise in his chosen craft.. Any method that explains his success isfine for learning purpose.Vidyaancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vidya ji,>> Planets being in 6th , 8th or 12th does not necessarily mar aHoroscope, but at times can rather make

one.>> There are other rules which negate these placements which i will notgo into at the moment for acceptance of same may not be readilyavailable.>> By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4planets in the 8th house.>> regards/Bhaskar.>>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vidya" vidyakmr@wrote:> >> > Dear Santosh Ji, Bahskar Ji,> >> > Thank you for sharing your experience, and I am quite amazed at theresults of your rahu dasas!!!> > I would assume depositor and a well placed rahu makes a difference.By the way where does he get exalted?> > As you know I am still new to astrology and have not looked at toomany

charts yet. My knowledge is still limited to lordships, signs,placement, exaltation/ debilitation, degrees, aspects only.. Unlike mostof you I haven't dug deep into any charts so I just jumped to conclusionwith my friends chart assuming his life should be good since he has noplanets in any of the evil houses like 3,6,8,12..> >> > Vidya> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, santhosh@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear vidyaji,> > > Goodmorning.> > > I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and marslord of aries is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.> > > Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasairrespective of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very

good in 10 and itproved in my chart. It was so good that i cant recall any significantnegative even during this md.> > > Regards> > > Santhosh> > >> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel> > >> > > > > > "Vidya" <vidyakmr@>> > > Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa> > >> > >> > > Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahudasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad asin negative events happening.> > >>

> > Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with TaurusLagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces withbenefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu isplaced in 4th house sign leo.> > > So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e.attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse marriedlife. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running)out of necessity and states since then his life has been "pure hell". Hesays he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed intaking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostlybeen bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.> > >> > > Vidya> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"<bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > dear Vidya ji,> > > >> > > > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothingto do with good or bad. The only difference between them ischaracteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planetscan be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned.> > > >> > > > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad inhis last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then thatperson will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun willreflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some ladythen that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chartand may now come as a

wife who will take back and settle the accounts.The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.> > > >> > > > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations,so one need not ask me for proofs.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vidya"<vidyakmr@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Learned Members,> > > > >> > > > > We know after learning some astrology that generallyJupiter(the> > > > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's

dasa(greatest> > > > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least itwas true> > > > > in my case!!> > > > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa atsome point> > > > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its "good"and "bad"> > > > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.> > > > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, andunaffiliated the bad> > > > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in ourlives> > > > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoeversaid> > > > > "happiness is a state of mind" was correct..I would like toknow what> > > > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2planets.> > >

> >> > > > > Vidya> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

That jupiter in the 6th is not a 'mickey mouse' jupiter, friends. And not just

due to exaltation but it gains strength from several vargas which makes it

well-balanced (important because if a planet is prominent and exalted in one

varga but loses strength in other vargas, then its strength can pose a problem

rather than a virtue). Note too that the 6th house jupiter also holds the pada

for the 10th house and hence the larger than life image of Big B. Interestingly

enough, " GUDDI " some say gave up her career (Abhimaan came alive in real life!)

and managed Big B's business and in a sense shepherded his career. Jupiter is

the darakaraka in this chart! Jupiter dasa was when Mr. B. went through his PREP

as he worked towards his dream, slept on benches and all that which is generally

true for most famous actors except for those who were born with a golden spoon

in their mouth, of course (I shall leave out the examples!). Once Saturn dasa

started only then the dream got realized and grew and continued in the dasa of

mercury that is making a strong budha-aditya in the 8th and that house also

holds some really interesting study material for us, but we can discuss the

'chemistry' that is going on there some other time. Mercury is very

interestingly the final dispositor in this chart. The buck stops there, in a

sense! The mutual reception of padas, by the way, though not a 'traditional'

consideration plays a role here.

 

One thing perplexes me in this chart, though! Matrikaraka saturn being placed in

the 4th house should create problems for or due to mother and also at times may

give a mother that just does not 'exist'. Now I have heard that Teji_ji was very

involved in and responsible for managing the pragmatic aspects of Bachchan

(Senior)'s household (Harivansha Rai jee!) and was a very strong mother and

manager, but I do not know enough and will just hold my breath. There are other

aspects about the 4th house that I would rather not speculate about, at this

point.

 

Sorry for my long-winded post and random ramblings etc...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Vidya Ji,

>

> //We all know to well no one can match his skills/ expertise in his chosen

craf //

>

> I beg to disagree .... but that is besides the point.

>

> Planets in dusthana houses does not mean the person will not succeed, it has

nothing to do with success. It is just that the path to success will not be a

bed of roses, it will have the " dusthana " signature. Not sure if you have

followed Big B's life but here is a list : Sudden Rise, Sudden Fall (disgrace),

Bankruptcy, Humiliation, Affairs and Sex Scandals, Sex Appeal,  Life

Threatening Accidents, Ability to rise above all odds.

>

> The last one is a 6H attribute. All others are 8H attributes. The Dusthana

signatures are clear.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vidya <vidyakmr

>

> Sat, December 12, 2009 3:59:29 PM

> Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

>

>  

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> //By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4

> planets in the8th house.//

>

> Now I don't have Amitabh Bachan's birth chart but can anyone explain

> how he rose to such great success in his professional life along with

> amassing tremendous amount of wealth with 5 planets in dustana/ grief

> producing house? We all know to well no one can match his skills/

> expertise in his chosen craft.. Any method that explains his success is

> fine for learning purpose.

>

> Vidya

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vidya ji,

> >

> > Planets being in 6th , 8th or 12th does not necessarily mar a

> Horoscope, but at times can rather make one.

> >

> > There are other rules which negate these placements which i will not

> go into at the moment for acceptance of same may not be readily

> available.

> >

> > By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4

> planets in the 8th house.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vidya " vidyakmr@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh Ji, Bahskar Ji,

> > >

> > > Thank you for sharing your experience, and I am quite amazed at the

> results of your rahu dasas!!!

> > > I would assume depositor and a well placed rahu makes a difference.

> By the way where does he get exalted?

> > > As you know I am still new to astrology and have not looked at too

> many charts yet. My knowledge is still limited to lordships, signs,

> placement, exaltation/ debilitation, degrees, aspects only.. Unlike most

> of you I haven't dug deep into any charts so I just jumped to conclusion

> with my friends chart assuming his life should be good since he has no

> planets in any of the evil houses like 3,6,8,12..

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, santhosh@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear vidyaji,

> > > > Goodmorning.

> > > > I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and mars

> lord of aries is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.

> > > > Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasa

> irrespective of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very good in 10 and it

> proved in my chart. It was so good that i cant recall any significant

> negative even during this md.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

> > > > Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu

> dasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as

> in negative events happening.

> > > >

> > > > Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus

> Lagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with

> benefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is

> placed in 4th house sign leo.

> > > > So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e.

> attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married

> life. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running)

> out of necessity and states since then his life has been " pure hell " . He

> says he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed in

> taking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostly

> been bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.

> > > >

> > > > Vidya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear Vidya ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing

> to do with good or bad. The only difference between them is

> characteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planets

> can be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in

> his last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that

> person will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will

> reflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady

> then that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart

> and may now come as a wife who will take back and settle the accounts.

> The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations,

> so one need not ask me for proofs.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vidya "

> <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Learned Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We know after learning some astrology that generally

> Jupiter(the

> > > > > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa

> (greatest

> > > > > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it

> was true

> > > > > > in my case!!

> > > > > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at

> some point

> > > > > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good "

> and " bad "

> > > > > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > > > > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and

> unaffiliated the bad

> > > > > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our

> lives

> > > > > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever

> said

> > > > > > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to

> know what

> > > > > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2

> planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh ... by the way, I realize that there are some serious students of jyotish

here so I must point out that Big B's chart has an interesting illustrative

wrinkle should you care to dabble in argala etc (If a very beginner -- please

stop reading my postings! I do not wish to mess with your minds or education!).

And the most organized and pithy text-book, if I may stick in my recommendation

is simply Brihat Parashar Hora Shastra! I have found the Sharma edition (SAGAR

PUBLICATION) good. I have heard about rumblings of Chowkhambha (Jha) edition but

have not found any significant difference between Sharma and Jha so far! But I

have not done an exhaustive comparison (=work in progress!).

 

I shall now hold my peace.

 

RR_,

 

, " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> That jupiter in the 6th is not a 'mickey mouse' jupiter, friends. And not just

due to exaltation but it gains strength from several vargas which makes it

well-balanced (important because if a planet is prominent and exalted in one

varga but loses strength in other vargas, then its strength can pose a problem

rather than a virtue). Note too that the 6th house jupiter also holds the pada

for the 10th house and hence the larger than life image of Big B. Interestingly

enough, " GUDDI " some say gave up her career (Abhimaan came alive in real life!)

and managed Big B's business and in a sense shepherded his career. Jupiter is

the darakaraka in this chart! Jupiter dasa was when Mr. B. went through his PREP

as he worked towards his dream, slept on benches and all that which is generally

true for most famous actors except for those who were born with a golden spoon

in their mouth, of course (I shall leave out the examples!). Once Saturn dasa

started only then the dream got realized and grew and continued in the dasa of

mercury that is making a strong budha-aditya in the 8th and that house also

holds some really interesting study material for us, but we can discuss the

'chemistry' that is going on there some other time. Mercury is very

interestingly the final dispositor in this chart. The buck stops there, in a

sense! The mutual reception of padas, by the way, though not a 'traditional'

consideration plays a role here.

>

> One thing perplexes me in this chart, though! Matrikaraka saturn being placed

in the 4th house should create problems for or due to mother and also at times

may give a mother that just does not 'exist'. Now I have heard that Teji_ji was

very involved in and responsible for managing the pragmatic aspects of Bachchan

(Senior)'s household (Harivansha Rai jee!) and was a very strong mother and

manager, but I do not know enough and will just hold my breath. There are other

aspects about the 4th house that I would rather not speculate about, at this

point.

>

> Sorry for my long-winded post and random ramblings etc...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vidya Ji,

> >

> > //We all know to well no one can match his skills/ expertise in his chosen

craf //

> >

> > I beg to disagree .... but that is besides the point.

> >

> > Planets in dusthana houses does not mean the person will not succeed, it

has nothing to do with success. It is just that the path to success will not

be a bed of roses, it will have the " dusthana " signature. Not sure if you have

followed Big B's life but here is a list : Sudden Rise, Sudden Fall (disgrace),

Bankruptcy, Humiliation, Affairs and Sex Scandals, Sex Appeal,  Life

Threatening Accidents, Ability to rise above all odds.

> >

> > The last one is a 6H attribute. All others are 8H attributes. The Dusthana

signatures are clear.

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Vidya <vidyakmr@>

> >

> > Sat, December 12, 2009 3:59:29 PM

> > Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

> >

> >  

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > //By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4

> > planets in the8th house.//

> >

> > Now I don't have Amitabh Bachan's birth chart but can anyone explain

> > how he rose to such great success in his professional life along with

> > amassing tremendous amount of wealth with 5 planets in dustana/ grief

> > producing house? We all know to well no one can match his skills/

> > expertise in his chosen craft.. Any method that explains his success is

> > fine for learning purpose.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vidya ji,

> > >

> > > Planets being in 6th , 8th or 12th does not necessarily mar a

> > Horoscope, but at times can rather make one.

> > >

> > > There are other rules which negate these placements which i will not

> > go into at the moment for acceptance of same may not be readily

> > available.

> > >

> > > By the way, Amitabh Bacchan has 1 planet in the 6th house and 4

> > planets in the 8th house.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vidya " vidyakmr@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Santosh Ji, Bahskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for sharing your experience, and I am quite amazed at the

> > results of your rahu dasas!!!

> > > > I would assume depositor and a well placed rahu makes a difference.

> > By the way where does he get exalted?

> > > > As you know I am still new to astrology and have not looked at too

> > many charts yet. My knowledge is still limited to lordships, signs,

> > placement, exaltation/ debilitation, degrees, aspects only.. Unlike most

> > of you I haven't dug deep into any charts so I just jumped to conclusion

> > with my friends chart assuming his life should be good since he has no

> > planets in any of the evil houses like 3,6,8,12..

> > > >

> > > > Vidya

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, santhosh@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear vidyaji,

> > > > > Goodmorning.

> > > > > I beg to differ. In my chart rahu is in 10th in aries and mars

> > lord of aries is yogakaraka, cancer lagna.

> > > > > Lots and lots of good things happened to be throughout rahu dasa

> > irrespective of bhukti lords. Rahu is said to be very good in 10 and it

> > proved in my chart. It was so good that i cant recall any significant

> > negative even during this md.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

> > > > > Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:12:11

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jupiter dasa Vs. Rahu dasa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well Bhaskar Ji I have yet to meet a person who had a good Rahu

> > dasa..Almost everyone I know has stated Rahu dasa has been mostly bad as

> > in negative events happening.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just to give an example I know a colleague from work with Taurus

> > Lagna, has Venus( LL+6L) placed in 11th house exalted in Pisces with

> > benefice aspects..He is currently running Rahu Mahadasa, and his rahu is

> > placed in 4th house sign leo.

> > > > > So even though Venus gave him what the chart promised i.e.

> > attractive looks, fine things etc. but he says he has the worse married

> > life. He got into an arrange marriage in Rahu Mahadasa( still running)

> > out of necessity and states since then his life has been " pure hell " . He

> > says he has no happiness from his wife and she has only contributed in

> > taking his life further down the tubes. So you see Rahu dasa has mostly

> > been bad for him despite the rest of the chart looking good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear Vidya ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rahu or jupiter or Saturn or the Sun or moon etc. have nothing

> > to do with good or bad. The only difference between them is

> > characteristics in which results will come as good or bad. These planets

> > can be both good or bad depending on the individual Horocope concerned.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just take the karakas and discern.If the native has been bad in

> > his last birth and tormented his own father or some elder, then that

> > person will be represented by the Sun in this Life and this Sun will

> > reflect as evil in this chart for him. Or if he had illtreated some lady

> > then that lady will be reflected as Venus in this birth in hiis chart

> > and may now come as a wife who will take back and settle the accounts.

> > The same Sun and Venus can be good for other natives in their charts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now above theory may be fiction or fragment of my imaginations,

> > so one need not ask me for proofs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vidya "

> > <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Learned Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We know after learning some astrology that generally

> > Jupiter(the

> > > > > > > greatest benefice) dasa is overall good, while Rahu's dasa

> > (greatest

> > > > > > > malefic) is always the worst and the most dreaded..At least it

> > was true

> > > > > > > in my case!!

> > > > > > > Most of us will experience both those planetary antra dasa at

> > some point

> > > > > > > in our lives, but the intensity at which we feel its " good "

> > and " bad "

> > > > > > > lies much with the placement of our moon rashi sign.

> > > > > > > I have observed if moon is strong, well placed, and

> > unaffiliated the bad

> > > > > > > effects are reduced to a great extent..A lot of events in our

> > lives

> > > > > > > depends on our perception of the whole situation.. So whoever

> > said

> > > > > > > " happiness is a state of mind " was correct..I would like to

> > know what

> > > > > > > other members have to say, or their experience with these 2

> > planets.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>