Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Saturn and Sun are considered to be enemies ? But who is enemy to whom ? 1) Saturn is inimical to the Sun ? OR 2) The Sun is inimical to Saturn ? 3) The son is away from the father (Saturday comes after 6 days from Sunday) OR 4) The father is near to the Son ? (Sunday comes after Saturday) 5) The Leo sign is more tormented when Saturn comes to stay there, OR 6) The sign Aquarius gets more tormented when The Sun visits there ? 7) The son can be actually inimical to Father ? BUT 8) Can the Father be inimical towards the Son ? I do not know the asnwers for above. Does anybody know the same ? regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Dear Bhaskarji, Before giving my opinion on this topic, i would like to salute you for your observations and mails that you have been posting. Its really a great luck of mine to have been reading your mails. Your study of the divine subject of astrology is really great. This query of yours is really great. But as far as my understanding goes the following are my points regarding the queries you have raised. If we take our personal lives a father will always like that his son stays at his (fathers) home rather than father staying in Sons home. So definetly i feel that Sun in saturns house (either makara or kumbha) it looses its strength. Where as the Saturn in Simha taking the relationship into consideration although enemies saturn is comfortable. In case it becomes vargottama then i feel saturn will be more comfortable there although this will lead lots of tiffs between father and son. Saturn likes and fights for justice, where as Sun being a royal planet although likes justice but deals that in a different manner. In a way what we can say is they are " Adarsh Shatru " both of them are malefic. Considering all the above we can say that son can harm (destroy) father but father will never harm son he can give only punishment to son. This is my opinion. May be many of them can differ with this. Please accept my pranams, Thanks and Best Regards Sasibhushan On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Saturn and Sun are considered to be enemies ? But who is enemy to whom ? 1) Saturn is inimical to the Sun ? OR 2) The Sun is inimical to Saturn ? 3) The son is away from the father (Saturday comes after 6 days from Sunday) OR 4) The father is near to the Son ? (Sunday comes after Saturday) 5) The Leo sign is more tormented when Saturn comes to stay there, OR 6) The sign Aquarius gets more tormented when The Sun visits there ? 7) The son can be actually inimical to Father ? BUT 8) Can the Father be inimical towards the Son ? I do not know the asnwers for above. Does anybody know the same ? regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Dear Sasibhushan ji; Lalkitab says that whenever there is a conflict between the two; Sun gives the relaxation to Saturn owing to father son relationship and instead of harming Saturn, it transfers its anger/ malice towards Venus instead, ; But the same is not expected from Saturn, it keeps malice directly towards Sun. The position leading to conflict; quantum of conflict also plays a crucial role. Regards Kulbir. , Sasi Bhushan <bhushaniyer wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Before giving my opinion on this topic, i would like to salute you for your > observations and mails that you have been posting. Its really a great luck > of mine to have been reading your mails. Your study of the divine subject of > astrology is really great. > > This query of yours is really great. But as far as my understanding goes > the following are my points regarding the queries you have raised. > > If we take our personal lives a father will always like that his son stays > at his (fathers) home rather than father staying in Sons home. > > So definetly i feel that Sun in saturns house (either makara or kumbha) it > looses its strength. Where as the Saturn in Simha taking the relationship > into consideration although enemies saturn is comfortable. In case it > becomes vargottama then i feel saturn will be more comfortable there > although this will lead lots of tiffs between father and son. > > Saturn likes and fights for justice, where as Sun being a royal planet > although likes justice but deals that in a different manner. In a way what > we can say is they are " Adarsh Shatru " both of them are malefic. > > Considering all the above we can say that son can harm (destroy) > father but father will never harm son he can give only punishment to son. > This is my opinion. May be many of them can differ with this. > > Please accept my pranams, > > Thanks and Best Regards > Sasibhushan > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotishwrote: > > > > > > > *Saturn and Sun are considered to be enemies ?* > > > > But who is enemy to whom ? > > > > 1) Saturn is inimical to the Sun ? OR > > > > 2) The Sun is inimical to Saturn ? > > > > 3) The son is away from the father (Saturday comes after 6 days from > > Sunday) OR > > > > 4) The father is near to the Son ? (Sunday comes after Saturday) > > > > 5) The Leo sign is more tormented when Saturn comes to stay there, OR > > > > 6) The sign Aquarius gets more tormented when The Sun visits there ? > > > > 7) The son can be actually inimical to Father ? BUT > > > > 8) Can the Father be inimical towards the Son ? > > > > I do not know the asnwers for above. Does anybody know the same ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Dear Sashi Bhushan ji, If these queries owuld have been put to me, i would have answered exactly the way you have answered. Your reply reflects our great culture and Indian heritage at work. The sons presence in this case Saturn in his house, will torment the father, Sun. But the father will be favourably disposed towards his sons welfare. The son may have his misgivings and complaints towards his father and his father resting in his house may not exactly be the idea of the sons approval, and neither will the Sun be comfortable being present there, but enmity from the son will not be leashed on the Father. It will be just a case of discomfort and forced adjustments on either side. Yes saturn in Leo will be a far better placement than the Sun in Aquarius. I thank you for your kind words for me. My studies remain uncompleted to a much extent. I must humbly say I am much away from Real predictive astrology. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Sasi Bhushan <bhushaniyer wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Before giving my opinion on this topic, i would like to salute you for your > observations and mails that you have been posting. Its really a great luck > of mine to have been reading your mails. Your study of the divine subject of > astrology is really great. > > This query of yours is really great. But as far as my understanding goes > the following are my points regarding the queries you have raised. > > If we take our personal lives a father will always like that his son stays > at his (fathers) home rather than father staying in Sons home. > > So definetly i feel that Sun in saturns house (either makara or kumbha) it > looses its strength. Where as the Saturn in Simha taking the relationship > into consideration although enemies saturn is comfortable. In case it > becomes vargottama then i feel saturn will be more comfortable there > although this will lead lots of tiffs between father and son. > > Saturn likes and fights for justice, where as Sun being a royal planet > although likes justice but deals that in a different manner. In a way what > we can say is they are " Adarsh Shatru " both of them are malefic. > > Considering all the above we can say that son can harm (destroy) > father but father will never harm son he can give only punishment to son. > This is my opinion. May be many of them can differ with this. > > Please accept my pranams, > > Thanks and Best Regards > Sasibhushan > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotishwrote: > > > > > > > *Saturn and Sun are considered to be enemies ?* > > > > But who is enemy to whom ? > > > > 1) Saturn is inimical to the Sun ? OR > > > > 2) The Sun is inimical to Saturn ? > > > > 3) The son is away from the father (Saturday comes after 6 days from > > Sunday) OR > > > > 4) The father is near to the Son ? (Sunday comes after Saturday) > > > > 5) The Leo sign is more tormented when Saturn comes to stay there, OR > > > > 6) The sign Aquarius gets more tormented when The Sun visits there ? > > > > 7) The son can be actually inimical to Father ? BUT > > > > 8) Can the Father be inimical towards the Son ? > > > > I do not know the asnwers for above. Does anybody know the same ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji,Do you mean to say, when deb sun and exalted saturn are in libra in transit, the significations of the houses owned by venus during the time/period/month sun transits libra gets affected? Suppose in natal chart this combination exists, then does the same rule apply?Regards, Anita--- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains Re: The Sun and Saturn Date: Saturday, 12 December, 2009, 4:52 PM Dear Sasibhushan ji; Lalkitab says that whenever there is a conflict between the two; Sun gives the relaxation to Saturn owing to father son relationship and instead of harming Saturn, it transfers its anger/ malice towards Venus instead, ; But the same is not expected from Saturn, it keeps malice directly towards Sun. The position leading to conflict; quantum of conflict also plays a crucial role. Regards Kulbir. ancient_indian_ astrology, Sasi Bhushan <bhushaniyer@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Before giving my opinion on this topic, i would like to salute you for your > observations and mails that you have been posting. Its really a great luck > of mine to have been reading your mails. Your study of the divine subject of > astrology is really great. > > This query of yours is really great. But as far as my understanding goes > the following are my points regarding the queries you have raised. > > If we take our personal lives a father will always like that his son stays > at his (fathers) home rather than father staying in Sons home. > > So definetly i feel that Sun in saturns house (either makara or kumbha) it > looses its strength. Where as the Saturn in Simha taking the relationship > into consideration although enemies saturn is comfortable. In case it > becomes vargottama then i feel saturn will be more comfortable there > although this will lead lots of tiffs between father and son. > > Saturn likes and fights for justice, where as Sun being a royal planet > although likes justice but deals that in a different manner. In a way what > we can say is they are "Adarsh Shatru" both of them are malefic. > > Considering all the above we can say that son can harm (destroy) > father but father will never harm son he can give only punishment to son. > This is my opinion. May be many of them can differ with this. > > Please accept my pranams, > > Thanks and Best Regards > Sasibhushan > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > *Saturn and Sun are considered to be enemies ?* > > > > But who is enemy to whom ? > > > > 1) Saturn is inimical to the Sun ? OR > > > > 2) The Sun is inimical to Saturn ? > > > > 3) The son is away from the father (Saturday comes after 6 days from > > Sunday) OR > > > > 4) The father is near to the Son ? (Sunday comes after Saturday) > > > > 5) The Leo sign is more tormented when Saturn comes to stay there, OR > > > > 6) The sign Aquarius gets more tormented when The Sun visits there ? > > > > 7) The son can be actually inimical to Father ? BUT > > > > 8) Can the Father be inimical towards the Son ? > > > > I do not know the asnwers for above. Does anybody know the same ? > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Ms. Anita Ji, According to lalkitab when we say // deb sun and exalted saturn are in libra // it means we are talking of Sun and Saturn in the 7th house; we don't consider signs; some individuals have done research on this but i am not privy to it; i don't have any knowledge of transits according to other systems. conflict in which Venus gets affected adversely means placement like Sun in 6th House and Saturn in 12th house. other planets and individuals actions determine the degree of damage to which Venus is exposed. Regards Kulbir Bains. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Dear Kulbir ji, > Do you mean to say, when deb sun and exalted saturn are in libra in transit, the significations of the houses owned by venus during the time/period/month sun transits libra > gets affected? > Suppose in natal chart this combination exists, then does the same rule apply? > Regards, > Anita > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote: > > kulbir <kulbirbains > Re: The Sun and Saturn > > Saturday, 12 December, 2009, 4:52 PM > Â > > > Dear Sasibhushan ji; > > Lalkitab says that whenever there is a conflict between the two; Sun gives the relaxation to Saturn owing to father son relationship and instead of harming Saturn, it transfers its anger/ malice towards Venus instead, ; But the same is not expected from Saturn, it keeps malice directly towards Sun. > > The position leading to conflict; quantum of conflict also plays a crucial role. > > Regards > > Kulbir. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sasi Bhushan <bhushaniyer@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > Before giving my opinion on this topic, i would like to salute you for your > > > observations and mails that you have been posting. Its really a great luck > > > of mine to have been reading your mails. Your study of the divine subject of > > > astrology is really great. > > > > > > This query of yours is really great. But as far as my understanding goes > > > the following are my points regarding the queries you have raised. > > > > > > If we take our personal lives a father will always like that his son stays > > > at his (fathers) home rather than father staying in Sons home. > > > > > > So definetly i feel that Sun in saturns house (either makara or kumbha) it > > > looses its strength. Where as the Saturn in Simha taking the relationship > > > into consideration although enemies saturn is comfortable. In case it > > > becomes vargottama then i feel saturn will be more comfortable there > > > although this will lead lots of tiffs between father and son. > > > > > > Saturn likes and fights for justice, where as Sun being a royal planet > > > although likes justice but deals that in a different manner. In a way what > > > we can say is they are " Adarsh Shatru " both of them are malefic. > > > > > > Considering all the above we can say that son can harm (destroy) > > > father but father will never harm son he can give only punishment to son. > > > This is my opinion. May be many of them can differ with this. > > > > > > Please accept my pranams, > > > > > > Thanks and Best Regards > > > Sasibhushan > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Saturn and Sun are considered to be enemies ?* > > > > > > > > But who is enemy to whom ? > > > > > > > > 1) Saturn is inimical to the Sun ? OR > > > > > > > > 2) The Sun is inimical to Saturn ? > > > > > > > > 3) The son is away from the father (Saturday comes after 6 days from > > > > Sunday) OR > > > > > > > > 4) The father is near to the Son ? (Sunday comes after Saturday) > > > > > > > > 5) The Leo sign is more tormented when Saturn comes to stay there, OR > > > > > > > > 6) The sign Aquarius gets more tormented when The Sun visits there ? > > > > > > > > 7) The son can be actually inimical to Father ? BUT > > > > > > > > 8) Can the Father be inimical towards the Son ? > > > > > > > > I do not know the asnwers for above. Does anybody know the same ? > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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