Guest guest Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Namaste all, In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora (which puts everything in Cn or Le). I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict anything about wealth. Thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear Pav ji, Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora of sun or moon only. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of pav_pv Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: A question about hora varga variations Namaste all, In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora (which puts everything in Cn or Le). I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict anything about wealth. Thank you very much. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09 01:10:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear Santhosh Ji, Thank you for your reply. As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. Paawan. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > of sun or moon only. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > Namaste all, > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > anything about wealth. > > Thank you very much. > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09 > 01:10:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear paawanji.You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from.Saga parashara says..Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam.Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga.He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors.Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries.But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent.Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations.The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise.I hope this is useful to you.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "pav_pv" <pav_pvTue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 -0000 Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear Santhosh Ji,Thank you for your reply.As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense.One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much.Paawan. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Pav ji,> > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora> of sun or moon only. > > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv> Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM> > A question about hora varga variations> > > > > > Namaste all,> > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora> (which puts everything in Cn or Le).> > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the> hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora,> etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm> sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict> anything about wealth.> > Thank you very much.> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09> 01:10:00> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, Santhosh Ji. Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule over the chaturthamsas. I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing your wisdom. Paawan , santhosh wrote: > > Dear paawanji. > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > Saga parashara says.. > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga. > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise. > I hope this is useful to you. > Regards > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " pav_pv " <pav_pv > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > Thank you for your reply. > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > Paawan. > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > anything about wealth. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09 > > 01:10:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Dear Pawan Ji, Do tell us when you get all that wealth, and make sure to share your " dhan " when that yoga hits you with all of us from this forum.. I have heard from astrologers that wealth only multiplies many folds when it is shared. Regards Vidya , " pav_pv " <pav_pv wrote: > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > Thank you for your reply. > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > Paawan. > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > anything about wealth. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09 > > 01:10:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I think you have misunderstood me, Vidya Ji. I am not asking about the hora chart to look into my own dhan but only out of genuine interest in Parashara's teachings. It is very true what you have said: sharing wealth will only increase it. , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > > Dear Pawan Ji, > > Do tell us when you get all that wealth, and make sure to share your " dhan " when that yoga hits you with all of us from this forum.. I have heard from astrologers that wealth only multiplies many folds when it is shared. > > Regards > Vidya > > > , " pav_pv " <pav_pv@> wrote: > > > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > > > Paawan. > > > > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > > anything about wealth. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: 12/15/09 > > > 01:10:00 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Paawan Ji, First of all they are not my wisdom. They are the wisdom of the seers that I am sharing with you. Secondly, you are free to disagree because knowledge grows only where there is disagreement. You are trying to similiarise dreshkana rules with hora. Each divisional calculation have their own rules and formulae. I have explained in my previous post how hora is calculated and how wealth aspects are analyzed from it. Still you seem to be eager to allocate other house to the planets in the hora calculations. The point is such allocation is not at all necessary for the interpretation of the Hora division. It becomes important for some people who try to see exaltation, debilitation, aspects etc also from hora charts and when planets are only assigned to sun and moon they feel handicapped. Now returning to your basic question, although I have narrated how wealth aspects are delineated from hora division, I still cannot see how useful that might be. All aspects including wealth has to be delineated from the rashi chart. Other varga charts have to be used to cross verify and confirm your findings with the note that findings of rashi chart will prevail in case of disagreement or in other words, findings in the rashi chart will be diluted if contradictory conclusions are drawn from divisional charts. So if for example in a person’s chart the 2nd and 11th lords are weak and these house are weak say along with 10th house also. How can a wealth confirmation for this person from the hora division be of any use? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of pav_pv Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:09 PM To: Subject: Re: A question about hora varga variations Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, Santhosh Ji. Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule over the chaturthamsas. I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing your wisdom. Paawan , santhosh wrote: > > Dear paawanji. > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > Saga parashara says.. > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga. > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise. > I hope this is useful to you. > Regards > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " pav_pv " <pav_pv > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > Thank you for your reply. > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > Paawan. > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > anything about wealth. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: 12/15/09 > > 01:10:00 > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release 12/16/09 01:28:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Santhosh Ji, Thank you very much for explaining this to me. I must admit I have not fully understood this great difference between the D-2 chart and all other divisional charts (although I suppose it is similar to the trimsamsa which if I remember rightly only uses ten signs, not mapping any divisions to Cn or Le) but that's okay as I am still very young and have a lot to learn. Once again, thank you very much for your kind explanation. Paawan , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Paawan Ji, > > > > First of all they are not my wisdom. They are the wisdom of the seers that I am sharing with you. > > > > Secondly, you are free to disagree because knowledge grows only where there is disagreement. > > > > You are trying to similiarise dreshkana rules with hora. Each divisional calculation have their own rules and formulae. > > > > I have explained in my previous post how hora is calculated and how wealth aspects are analyzed from it. Still you seem to be eager to allocate other house to the planets in the hora calculations. The point is such allocation is not at all necessary for the interpretation of the Hora division. It becomes important for some people who try to see exaltation, debilitation, aspects etc also from hora charts and when planets are only assigned to sun and moon they feel handicapped. > > > > Now returning to your basic question, although I have narrated how wealth aspects are delineated from hora division, I still cannot see how useful that might be. All aspects including wealth has to be delineated from the rashi chart. Other varga charts have to be used to cross verify and confirm your findings with the note that findings of rashi chart will prevail in case of disagreement or in other words, findings in the rashi chart will be diluted if contradictory conclusions are drawn from divisional charts. So if for example in a person’s chart the 2nd and 11th lords are weak and these house are weak say along with 10th house also. How can a wealth confirmation for this person from the hora division be of any use? > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:09 PM > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, Santhosh Ji. > > Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule over the chaturthamsas. > I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing your wisdom. > > Paawan > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear paawanji. > > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > > Saga parashara says.. > > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga. > > > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise. > > I hope this is useful to you. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " pav_pv " <pav_pv@> > > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > <ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > > > Paawan. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology ] On Behalf Of pav_pv > > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > > anything about wealth. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: 12/15/09 > > > 01:10:00 > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release 12/16/09 01:28:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Pavan, You have raised a good question! When describing Horas under shadvarga, Parashara did not specify that the halves of signs fell under sun or moon's KSHETRAs! If you wish to research and 'prepare your own meal', I would suggest that you pick up a chart of a rich person, a poor person and two persons with reversals (Rags to Riches, riches to rags) and see which Hora fits and 'if'! You may ultimately decide to not worry about Hora when looking at one's wealth status, but you would be more comfortable and confident about your decision. Rohiniranjan , " pav_pv " <pav_pv wrote: > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > Thank you for your reply. > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > Paawan. > > > , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > anything about wealth. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09 > > 01:10:00 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Rohiniranjan Ji, Yes, that is what I meant when I referred to Parasara Ji and BPHS. Your advice is excellent. Sometimes we rely on others before us so much in astrology that we forget about conducting scientific research. I seem to have made this mistake too and I would like to thank you for reminding me of this. Now I will certainly look into this but unfortunately it may not be in the near future as I am a student and my first priority is my education. However I will definitely carry out some sort of organised research project on the Hora chart now and, if I can, I will look into dasa systems too. Thank you very much. Paawan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Paawan Ji, //although I suppose it is similar to the trimsamsa which if I remember rightly only uses ten signs// Not sure what that means. Trimshamsa allocates planets to 5 planets ie, all planets except Sun and Moon. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of pav_pv Wednesday, December 16, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear Santhosh Ji, Thank you very much for explaining this to me. I must admit I have not fully understood this great difference between the D-2 chart and all other divisional charts (although I suppose it is similar to the trimsamsa which if I remember rightly only uses ten signs, not mapping any divisions to Cn or Le) but that's okay as I am still very young and have a lot to learn. Once again, thank you very much for your kind explanation. Paawan , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Paawan Ji, > > > > First of all they are not my wisdom. They are the wisdom of the seers that I am sharing with you. > > > > Secondly, you are free to disagree because knowledge grows only where there is disagreement. > > > > You are trying to similiarise dreshkana rules with hora. Each divisional calculation have their own rules and formulae. > > > > I have explained in my previous post how hora is calculated and how wealth aspects are analyzed from it. Still you seem to be eager to allocate other house to the planets in the hora calculations. The point is such allocation is not at all necessary for the interpretation of the Hora division. It becomes important for some people who try to see exaltation, debilitation, aspects etc also from hora charts and when planets are only assigned to sun and moon they feel handicapped. > > > > Now returning to your basic question, although I have narrated how wealth aspects are delineated from hora division, I still cannot see how useful that might be. All aspects including wealth has to be delineated from the rashi chart. Other varga charts have to be used to cross verify and confirm your findings with the note that findings of rashi chart will prevail in case of disagreement or in other words, findings in the rashi chart will be diluted if contradictory conclusions are drawn from divisional charts. So if for example in a person’s chart the 2nd and 11th lords are weak and these house are weak say along with 10th house also. How can a wealth confirmation for this person from the hora division be of any use? > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:09 PM > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, Santhosh Ji. > > Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule over the chaturthamsas. > I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing your wisdom. > > Paawan > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear paawanji. > > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > > Saga parashara says.. > > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga. > > > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise. > > I hope this is useful to you. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " pav_pv " <pav_pv@> > > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > <ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > > > Paawan. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology ] On Behalf Of pav_pv > > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > > anything about wealth. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09 > > > 01:10:00 > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release 12/16/09 01:28:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2569 - Release 12/17/09 01:22:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Santhosh Ji, I meant that Karka and Simha are always empty in the Parasari Trimsamsa chart. So only ten signs are used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Dear Pavan Ji, You will recall an earlier post from Rohini ji where he stated, with regard to the hora varga that the planets are not allocated to KSHETRA. The same goes for trimshamsha also. The planets are allocated to the varga of the 5 grahas excluding sun and moon and not khsetra. Hence, you may please consider if it is pertinent to think that two of the rashi’s or khsetras are empty? Regards Santhosh [ ] On Behalf Of pav_pvThursday, December 17, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear Santhosh Ji,I meant that Karka and Simha are always empty in the Parasari Trimsamsa chart. So only ten signs are used. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2569 - Release 12/18/09 06:32:00 The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Santhosh Ji, When we cast a trimsamsa chart, we only have ten of the signs housing planets. If we only consider vargas of planets and not their signs, then every divisonal chart could only have upto 7 sections as opposed to 12 houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Santosh ji,Kindly advice , how do you construct Hora chart.Parasara says 'see 'sampatti' from Hora Varga.Sampatti is not wealth as translated by somecommentators in English. 'Sampatti' means all those means which are necessary for sustenance."Vipanata' is opposite to 'sampanatta' .Which means lack of means for sustenance.This is the reason that D-30 is a complementary Varga to D-2.D-30 indicate misery as represented by five Tara graha's(not by Sun and Noon which represent cosmic creative force -Jivatma).Regards,G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 From: santhoshDate: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:25:20 +0530RE: Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear Paawan Ji, First of all they are not my wisdom. They are the wisdom of the seers that I am sharing with you. Secondly, you are free to disagree because knowledge grows only where there is disagreement. You are trying to similiarise dreshkana rules with hora. Each divisional calculation have their own rules and formulae. I have explained in my previous post how hora is calculated and how wealth aspects are analyzed from it. Still you seem to be eager to allocate other house to the planets in the hora calculations. The point is such allocation is not at all necessary for the interpretation of the Hora division. It becomes important for some people who try to see exaltation, debilitation, aspects etc also from hora charts and when planets are only assigned to sun and moon they feel handicapped. Now returning to your basic question, although I have narrated how wealth aspects are delineated from hora division, I still cannot see how useful that might be. All aspects including wealth has to be delineated from the rashi chart. Other varga charts have to be used to cross verify and confirm your findings with the note that findings of rashi chart will prevail in case of disagreement or in other words, findings in the rashi chart will be diluted if contradictory conclusions are drawn from divisional charts. So if for example in a person’s chart the 2nd and 11th lords are weak and these house are weak say along with 10th house also. How can a wealth confirmation for this person from the hora division be of any use? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of pav_pv Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:09 PM To: Subject: Re: A question about hora varga variations Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, Santhosh Ji. Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule over the chaturthamsas. I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing your wisdom. Paawan , santhosh wrote: > > Dear paawanji. > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > Saga parashara says.. > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga. > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise. > I hope this is useful to you. > Regards > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > "pav_pv" <pav_pv > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > Thank you for your reply. > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > Paawan. > > > , "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > anything about wealth. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: 12/15/09 > > 01:10:00 > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release 12/16/09 01:28:00 New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 DEAR santhosh ji, Even if 2nd and 11th houses are weak ,a strong Hora chart will ensure sustenance.Regards,G. K. Goel From: santhoshDate: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:25:20 +0530RE: Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear Paawan Ji, First of all they are not my wisdom. They are the wisdom of the seers that I am sharing with you. Secondly, you are free to disagree because knowledge grows only where there is disagreement. You are trying to similiarise dreshkana rules with hora. Each divisional calculation have their own rules and formulae. I have explained in my previous post how hora is calculated and how wealth aspects are analyzed from it. Still you seem to be eager to allocate other house to the planets in the hora calculations. The point is such allocation is not at all necessary for the interpretation of the Hora division. It becomes important for some people who try to see exaltation, debilitation, aspects etc also from hora charts and when planets are only assigned to sun and moon they feel handicapped. Now returning to your basic question, although I have narrated how wealth aspects are delineated from hora division, I still cannot see how useful that might be. All aspects including wealth has to be delineated from the rashi chart. Other varga charts have to be used to cross verify and confirm your findings with the note that findings of rashi chart will prevail in case of disagreement or in other words, findings in the rashi chart will be diluted if contradictory conclusions are drawn from divisional charts. So if for example in a person’s chart the 2nd and 11th lords are weak and these house are weak say along with 10th house also. How can a wealth confirmation for this person from the hora division be of any use? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of pav_pv Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:09 PM To: Subject: Re: A question about hora varga variations Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, Santhosh Ji. Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule over the chaturthamsas. I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing your wisdom. Paawan , santhosh wrote: > > Dear paawanji. > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > Saga parashara says.. > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga. > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise. > I hope this is useful to you. > Regards > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > "pav_pv" <pav_pv > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > Thank you for your reply. > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much. > > Paawan. > > > , "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora, > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > anything about wealth. > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: 12/15/09 > > 01:10:00 > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release 12/16/09 01:28:00 New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 dear Sirs, A minor disagreement here. Hora Chart or Shodash varga charts can only claim,support or accenruate what is shown in the Natal Chart, which is the Tree. fruits will bear only from the branches of that tree and nowhere. The shadows will only confirm the presence of the fruits on the tree but cannot be the reason for the fruits. The Horas and all other Shodash Varga charts are only shadow Charts and not real. About sustenance, even if the native has a Daridra Yoga in his chart, but if he has longevity, tbhen sustenance is assured somehow or the other. No issues or worries here. One does not need Dhan Yogas or any such Yogas for sustenance. The 10th house being ruled by saturn and so also the 11th of gains, if anyone who works hard (Through the Karma represented by the 10th)., Saturn is bound to give food for sustenance, if not riches. regards/Bhaskar. , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote: > > > DEAR santhosh ji, > Even if 2nd and 11th houses are weak , > a strong Hora chart will ensure sustenance. > Regards, > > G. K. Goel > > > santhosh > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:25:20 +0530 > RE: Re: A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Paawan Ji, > > > > First of all they are not my wisdom. They are > the wisdom of the seers that I am sharing with you. > > > > Secondly, you are free to disagree because > knowledge grows only where there is disagreement. > > > > You are trying to similiarise dreshkana > rules with hora. Each divisional calculation have their own rules and formulae. > > > > I have explained in my previous post how > hora is calculated and how wealth aspects are analyzed from it. Still you seem > to be eager to allocate other house to the planets in the hora calculations. The > point is such allocation is not at all necessary for the interpretation of the > Hora division. It becomes important for some people who try to see exaltation, > debilitation, aspects etc also from hora charts and when planets are only > assigned to sun and moon they feel handicapped. > > > > Now returning to your basic question, > although I have narrated how wealth aspects are delineated from hora division, I > still cannot see how useful that might be. All aspects including wealth has to > be delineated from the rashi chart. Other varga charts have to be used to cross > verify and confirm your findings with the note that findings of rashi chart > will prevail in case of disagreement or in other words, findings in the rashi > chart will be diluted if contradictory conclusions are drawn from divisional > charts. So if for example in a person's chart the 2nd and 11th > lords are weak and these house are weak say along with 10th house > also. How can a wealth confirmation for this person from the hora division be > of any use? > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009 > 10:09 PM > > To: > > > Subject: > Re: A question about hora varga variations > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, > Santhosh Ji. > > > > Not to disagree with you but what I meant in my last post by the Horas of the > Sun and Moon not referring to Cn and Le is that is it not possible that Sun and > Moon (devataas, not grahas) simply lord over 12 horas each, similarly to how > Narada, Agastya and Durvasa lord over the drekkanas or how the four Kumars rule > over the chaturthamsas. > > I hope I am getting my point across clearly and thank you again for sharing > your wisdom. > > > > Paawan > > > > , > santhosh@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear paawanji. > > > You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only > in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if > a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of > leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. > When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from. > > > Saga parashara says.. > > > Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam. > > > > > > Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is > seen from hora varga. > > > > > > He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land > of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors. > > > > > > Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries. > > > But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent. > > > Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives > inclinations to extra marital cohabitations. > > > The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord > of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or > it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if > second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and > opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other > indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will > materialise. > > > I hope this is useful to you. > > > Regards > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > " pav_pv " <pav_pv@> > > > Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 > > > > > > Re: A question about hora varga > variations > > > > > > Dear Santhosh Ji, > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. > > > As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun > and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include > other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense. > > > > > > One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example > of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person > will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you > very much. > > > > > > Paawan. > > > > > > > > > , > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pav ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the > hora > > > > of sun or moon only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv > > > > Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM > > > > > > > > A question about hora varga > variations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste all, > > > > > > > > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara > Hora > > > > (which puts everything in Cn or Le). > > > > > > > > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations > of the > > > > hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya > hora, > > > > etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes > as I'm > > > > sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict > > > > anything about wealth. > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: > 12/15/09 > > > > 01:10:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.109/2567 - Release 12/16/09 01:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ > New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear SIR ,BPHS SAYS -I quote from Santhanam edition- "The first half of an odd sign is the Hora ruled by the Sun , while the second half is in the Hora of the Moon.The reverseis true in the case of an even sign.Half of Rasi is called Hora. These Hora are totally 24 counted from Aries and repeat twice on the principle of 'parivrattiya' in the whole zodiac."This Version is open to different interpretations. RegardsG. K. Goel From: santhoshDate: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:10:23 +0000Re: Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear paawanji.You can be assured that as per sage parashara hora of planets can be only in the rashi of sun or moon. I believe you are aware of the formula. If not, if a planet falls in the first 15 degree in an odd sign it falls in suns hora of leo and if in the second 15 degree it will be in moons hora or rashi of cancer. When even the method is clearly given where can the doubt come from.Saga parashara says..Lagne dehasyam vijnanam horayam sampadikam.Clearly the acharya meant prosperity, wealth, economic soundness etc is seen from hora varga.He says, if lagna falls in the hora of sun, one is descended from the land of gods and if in moons hora one is from the land of ancestors.Mars in suns hora gives courage, fame, wealth and luxuries.But mercury in suns hora makes one poor but intelligent.Malefic planets in suns hora gives wealth and benifics in moons hora gives inclinations to extra marital cohabitations.The native will be rich if hora lagna is occupied by benifics or the lord of hora lagns is placed in upachaya houses or it is exalted in its own sign or it is associated with or aspected by some benefic. Similar will be case if second house from hora lagna is occupied by benifics in the rashi chart and opposite if occupied by malefics.
Remember above should be supported by other indications in the chart and the running dasa bukti desides when it will materialise.I hope this is useful to you.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "pav_pv" <pav_pv (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:53:04 -0000 Re: A question about hora varga variations Dear Santhosh Ji,Thank you for your reply.As far as my understanding goes, is it not possible that the Horas of Sun and Moon Parasara Ji referred to don't refer to Cn and Le but also include other signs (not based on lordship)? I hope I am making sense.One more thing, if it's not too much trouble, could you give me an example of how one would use the Parasari Hora chart to predict how wealthy a person will become and also when wealth will come in relation to dasaas. Thank you very much.Paawan. , "Santhosh" <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Pav ji,> > > > Parashara hora is the most accepted method. Planets can fall into the hora> of sun or moon only. > > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of pav_pv> Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 PM> > A question about hora varga variations> > > > > > Namaste all,> > In my study of jyotish have only learned to calculate the Parasara Hora> (which puts everything in Cn or Le).> > I was wondering whether you could explain how to calculate variations of the> hora chakra (e.g., kasinatha hora, jagannatha hora, parivritti-dwaya hora,> etc..) and also which of these variations to use for which purposes as I'm> sure you would agree that the Parasara Hora cannot be used to predict> anything about wealth.> > Thank you very much.> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release 12/15/09> 01:10:00>Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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