Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dear Kansal Ji,The analysis of your nativity done by you your selfand by Mr. Bhaskar is illuminating.This proves that 1. KP is very effective tool2. Transits should not be ignored.I may like to point out some other vital features in your nativity:I. Mercury is your dasa lord , is in debility , combust and placed in capricorn Navamsa (a sign occupying 8H)2. Venus is in debility in D-9 and D-30and is Dispositer of Mars and Rahu and is also combust). Venus is placed in 12H in D-30 chart. Nakshatra dispositer of Venus is retrograde Saturn placed in 6H. This is an indicator that decease will revisit frequently.3. Sun's sub-sub was operating4.Your AK Mercury and Amk Saturn are on same degree.This called Charkarka replacement. This may result in change of profession if it has not already happened.5. Kindly study D-1 , D-3 , D-9 and D-30 charts , you may get further information. As Rahu is in 5H of D-3 chart , it shows that you may start having irregular pulse which may require pacemaker. This shows that there were strong indications in your nativity and dasas were adverse for your health , transits had triggered the event. Regards,G. K. Goel From: bhaskar_jyotishDate: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:47:04 +0000 Re: Does Gochara NEVER over-rides dasa? Dear shri Shyam ji, Let me also add two another ways to time the event. 1) Bhraman of the Sun in either Raashi of the mahadasha Lord or antardasha Lord. (In your case Sun is transiting in the raashi of the antardasha Lord). 2) Ruling Planets. The 2nd method cannot be explained in the Group due to space and time limitations. regards/bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Shyam ji, > > I need not explain anything to you. You are yourself an accomplished soul and academically much superior to me in astrology. You have also purchased those books from me which explain everything. > > In fact these methods are so simple that it does not digest the stomache for many. (Except the event timing part which at times can be very nasty in reaching at). > > In Your case, you have already understood the concept when you say > // In which nakshatra a planet is posited? And, the lord of > concerned nakshatra owns which house in native's horoscope?// > this explains everything you need to know. > > Except just re-confirming that I take Placidus house division when considering Lord of house and Planets in these Bhavas as dissected through Placidus.(In most cases you will find Parashari Bhava chalit showing same positions of Planets in bhavas as per Placidus).next is to observe what type of combinations would result in what. For instance if Venus is representing 3 and 8th, then it is a sure case of some accident through vehicle. If same native is asking what profession I must take, and if you know what he has some knowledge of computers, then you can ask him to go for Computer animations or software programming. If a native has Mars with 4 and 11 and is asking whether he should purchase a house, then this combination is the best for it. > > In your case it just takes few seconds to observe the event what can be expected if one looks at the figures so obtained like I mentioned in my previous mail and which you also have understood apparently > Antardasha Lord in which Nakshatra and placed in which Bhava and Lords of which Bhavas. > > Now we arrive at - > > Venus - 9.5,12 in Nakshatra of Saturn - 5, 8, 9. > SubLord again Venus - 9,5,12 > > These figures shows a problem related to heart as already discussed before. You will be hospitalised and saved. How do we know this ? Through the Sub lord. The 12th shows hospitalisation and the 5th shows cure. > > Now how do we time this event ? Normally we should have formats readily made to time events for each Mahadasha and antardasha when the evnt should fructify. For instance the below will show 3 examples of Mahadasha and Antardasha Lords which give us ready made timings for the event to fructify if one knows beforehand what event will take place. > > 1) Saturn - Sun Between 10th and 14th January > 2) Rahu - Budh Between 21st June and 6th july > 3) Jup - Mars Between Between 16th and 20th Nov. > > How to make use of above information? > > Suppose somebody is running Jupiter Mahadasha and Mars antardasha. And the figures indicate marriage then you can tell the native that he will get married between 16th and 20th november of that year.the event will 100% take place then. There are no ifs and buts here. > > Now in your case Budh mahadasha and Venus antardasha no readymade format of timings can be made because of certain technical reasons which is a matter of another explanation and will take many pages to write. > > So we need to check the Bhraman(Motion) of the Mahadasha Lord Budh in sign of Venus. (Mercury in Libra) This was there in November 2009. Now we have to narrow the time further. Then we must check the Bhraman of the Sun. Now where must the Sun do Bhraman, to trigger this event ? Here one must first check in which Raashi is the makshatra lord of the mahadasha Lord is placed. The nakhshatra Lord of Budh is Budh itself and placed in Pisces owend by Jupiter. Now check whether we have any Nakshatra owned by Jupiter in the sign Libra from where the Sun is transiting. Yes we have Visakha in Libra which begins at 20.00 degrees.The Sun on the 6th of November 2009 enters Visakha early morning. > > Hope above helps. > > warm regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , "Shyam S. Kansal" <jyotishee@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > I am much impressed by your method of analyzing events/charts through > > Nakshatras. In which nakshatra a planet is posited? And, the lord of > > concerned nakshatra owns which house in native's horoscope? > > > > May I request you, as a friend and colleague, to spare some of your > > valuable time to explain this major event in my life - through this > > methodology. All of us here in this group would be benefited. > > > > I have been practicing Ashtakvarga since early days of my astrological > > journey. That's why, I tried to explain this event through the eyes of > > Ashtakvarga. > > > > Warm regards, > > Shyam > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shyam ji, > > > > This was a good example from astrological point of view. > > > > For my other colleauges I would advise in a friendly manner,that > > One must still be not too vigilant towards these pointers as an > > astrologer > > because one will end up getting scared in the process. Which is why I do > > not go > > into too many details of my own Horoscope. Because whether the eevent > > happens or > > not but I will endd up getting scared much before hand. I had done a > > similiar > > study for my ownself for the next two months, just a week before we > > spoke on > > phone, and it really did scare me. But since I am not an expert in > > ashtakvarga > > like your goodselves, I take an excape route and console myself. > > > > In Your case from a KP Astrologers point of view,Your current antardasha > > Lord > > Venus is in Utar Bhadrapad owned by Saturn and denotes the 5th, and the > > 8th > > house. Whenever the 5 and 8 appear together and the query is about > > health > > especially after middle age, then the answer would be "Problem related > > to > > heart". Heart is represented by the 5th house and the 8th representing > > the > > problem associated. Venus also signifies the 5th and the 12th. > > > > You are running Budh mahadasha, Venus antardasha. > > > > If You check, in the first week of November Budh is actually in raashi > > of > > Venus(Libra). > > > > But in the end, all is well that ends well. You are fine now, is what > > matters. > > > > Love and regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , "Shyam S. Kansal" > > jyotishee@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Learned friends > > > > > > > > I was going through the discussions going on in another thread in > > this > > > > group itself, with the subject line as "Ashtakvarga". Within this > > > > discussion, a question rose whether "Gochara can over-ride dasa?" > > This > > > > question attracted my attention and I thought of sharing my personal > > > > experience just last month. > > > > > > > > I had a close shave with death last month only. I have been a > > healthy > > > > person in the sense that I have never been to a doctor since my > > > > childhood for any serious ailment. No apparent illnesses till date > > (at > > > > the age of 53). Every thing was going perfectly fine with me till > > the > > > > first week of November 2009. > > > > > > > > Suddenly, around 5th November 2009, I started feeling > > breathlessness. > > > > For first few days, I took it very lightly and thought it to be a > > cause > > > > of weather-change which usually gives me temporary cough and cold > > every > > > > year for few days and disappears on its own, without the help of any > > > > medicine. I thought that this year, cough problem is little more > > severe > > > > and is causing this breathlessness. A few more days passed in this > > hope > > > > and I remained careless. > > > > > > > > After about a week, when the problem did not subsided, and I felt > > that > > > > it is increasing day-by-day, I went to my cardiologist friend. On > > > > examination and after various tests, he was just stunned that > > somebody > > > > may be so careless about his health. He immediately referred me to > > > > Fortis hospital, Noida. My hearth's left ventricle was functioning > > at > > > > only 20% to 25% capacity at that time (in doctor's report, written > > as > > > > "Severe LV dysfunction - LVEF 20-25%; Acute left ventricular failure > > > > (recovered); Acute coronary syndrome; mild mitral regurgitation). > > > > > > > > I was admitted to MICU for 36 hrs and then remained in CCU for next > > 6 > > > > days. Thereafter, another 5 days in hospital's private room. (15th > > > > november to 26th November 2009). Severe problem was overcome and my > > > > heath improved. I was discharged from hospital with the advise of > > > > complete rest for next few months. > > > > > > > > With the above description of a major incident of my life, I come to > > the > > > > main point. At the time of my illness, I was running Vimshottari > > dasa of > > > > Mercury-Venus-Sun. Mercury is my ascendant lord as-well-as fourth > > lord. > > > > Venus, though 12th lord also, but also the 5th lord, posited in the > > 10th > > > > house with ascendant lord. Both the Vimshottari dasa lords are my > > best > > > > functional benefics. My current period, since the start of > > > > Mercury-Venus, is one of my best period of life, professionally as > > well > > > > as in other areas of life. My daughter's marriage took place in May > > > > 2009, my new home is nearing completion in this period and many > > other > > > > such good things. > > > > > > > > Then what was the cause of this incident. I could not relate it to > > > > vimshottari dasa in any way. However, answer is very clear when I > > saw > > > > transits around 5th November 2009. Ketu in Natal Lagna, Rahu & > > Saturn > > > > aspecting Lagna, ascendant lord Mercury, sandwiched between Saturn > > and > > > > Sun and Mars aspecting it, no benefic aspects on Lagna as well as > > Lagna > > > > lord, in transit chart. > > > > > > > > Now see the Ashtakvarga transits. On 5th November 2009, after 14:30 > > hrs, > > > > all seven planets (except two nodes) were in "Non-contributor's > > > > kakshyas". This is one of the worst possible scenarios in terms of > > > > asktakvarga, one may expect, and comes very rarely in one's life. > > This > > > > planetary configuration remained for me till 8:30 am of 6th November > > > > 2009. After 8:30 hrs on 6th november, Moon moved to a "Contributor's > > > > kakshya" but still, then, rest of the 6 planets were > > "Non-contributor's > > > > kakshya". My Lagna lord Mercury was with ONE benefic point only, in > > a > > > > very weak SAV sign (19 points only) and that too in a > > non-contributor's > > > > kakshya. > > > > > > > > The above mentioned ashtakvarga configuration was repeated many > > times > > > > during next one week. For example, see my transit chart of 8th Nov. > > 2009 > > > > (10:00 am), 10th Nov. 2009 (10:00 am), when all seven planets were > > in > > > > "Non-contributor's kakshyas". > > > > > > > > My birth-data is as follows: > > > > > > > > 28th March 1957 > > > > 12:45 hrs (Noon) > > > > Bulandshahr (U.P.) (028N24; 077E51) > > > > > > > > [Ascendant Gemini, Moon in Aquarius, shatbhisha nakshatra] > > > > > > > > I hope, the above example will unveil the myth that "Gochara NEVER > > > > over-rides dasa?" > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Shyam S Kansal > > > > > > > > > > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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