Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 That is a wounderful thoughtas 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problemsfurther if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linkedmoreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai)here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two children struggling a lot)as moon not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagnaso that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagnawe can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction thanks with regards sairaman--- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Subject: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun"" Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM Dear All,Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances.Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha. Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship.I invite you all to share your views with examples. RegardsNeelam The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear sairaman ji, // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems // I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked// This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems // What is this ??? //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna // What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also // This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction // I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the name of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to make some sense. Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but cannot bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits beyond toleration levels. You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also written with some respect. Please respond as required and advised. Bhaskar. , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: > > That is a wounderful  thought > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai) > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two children struggling a lot) > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction > > thanks with regards > > > sairaman > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > " " > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM >  > > > Dear All, > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances. > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha. > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship. > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > Regards > Neelam > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear sir,This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as suggested by bhaskarji.Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a patent.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotishWed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 -0000 Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 Dear sairaman ji,// however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems //I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati.Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ?// house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked//This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ???// moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems //What is this ???//as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna> so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna//What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ???//> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also //This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ?// it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction //I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the name of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to make some sense.Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but cannot bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits beyond toleration levels.You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also written with some respect.Please respond as required and advised.Bhaskar. , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:>> That is a wounderful  thought> > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems> > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked> > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai)> > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two children struggling a lot)> > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna> so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna> > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction > > thanks with regards > > > sairaman> > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07> Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun> " " > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances.> Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha.> > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship.> > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > Regards> Neelam> >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or Lalkitab. This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link in the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why people do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say what ? Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from here and there are used freely without any sense. Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make impressions. At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive value. But this one beats them all. I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell us what has been written and meant here. This is too much. regards/Bhaskar. , santhosh wrote: > > Dear sir, > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as suggested by bhaskarji. > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a patent. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 > > Dear sairaman ji, > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems // > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked// > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems // > > What is this ??? > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > // > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also // > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction // > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the name of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to make some sense. > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but cannot bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits beyond toleration levels. > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also written with some respect. > > Please respond as required and advised. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > That is a wounderful  thought > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai) > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two children struggling a lot) > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > > " " > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances. > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha. > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship. > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or Lalkitab// No Comments. I agree with the rest of your post. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21 AM Subject: Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 Dear Santosh ji, I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or Lalkitab. This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link in the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why people do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say what ? Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from here and there are used freely without any sense. Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make impressions. At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive value. But this one beats them all. I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell us what has been written and meant here. This is too much. regards/Bhaskar. , santhosh wrote: > > Dear sir, > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as suggested by bhaskarji. > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a patent. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 > > Dear sairaman ji, > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems // > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked// > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems // > > What is this ??? > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > // > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also // > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction // > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the name of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to make some sense. > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but cannot bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits beyond toleration levels. > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also written with some respect. > > Please respond as required and advised. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > That is a wounderful  thought > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai) > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two children struggling a lot) > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > > " " > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances. > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha. > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship. > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or Lalkitab// I meant that there are few members indeed who are really very well knowledged and possess very deep perceptions powers in astrolgy. I am sure you will agree with this. What did you think I meant ? regards/Bhaskar , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, > or Lalkitab// > > > > No Comments. > > > > I agree with the rest of your post. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21 AM > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > sai 16122009 > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are > into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or > Lalkitab. > > This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link in > the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why people > do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? > > There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say what > ? > > Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from > here and there are used freely without any sense. > > Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express > it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in > traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make impressions. > At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated > stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive > value. But this one beats them all. > > I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell us > what has been written and meant here. > > This is too much. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as suggested > by bhaskarji. > > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is > anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a > patent. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > <ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal > Sun sai 16122009 > > > > Dear sairaman ji, > > > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be > problems // > > > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost > confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. > > > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, > ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student > or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? > > > > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and > natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are > linked// > > > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? > > > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at > time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be > in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can > expect professional problems // > > > > What is this ??? > > > > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > house from lagna > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > // > > > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? > > > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > // > > > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? > > > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be > cordial or it shall be in high friction // > > > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the name > of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to > make some sense. > > > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but cannot > bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits > beyond toleration levels. > > > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also > written with some respect. > > > > Please respond as required and advised. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > > > That is a wounderful  thought > > > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be > problems > > > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal > 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked > > > > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star > at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it > shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to > 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in > every house > > > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in > every native > > > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself > no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he > is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no > job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am > chennai) > > > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th > house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income > now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years > old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two > children struggling a lot) > > > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > house from lagna > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be > cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > > > " " <ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology > > > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would > experience professional disturbances. > > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal > promise and operative dasha. > > > > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 > relationship. > > > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Well the quote meant for me that you knew of each and every member’s capabilities on this forum. This was difficult for me to fathom as for me I can know of a person’s real knowledge only when I sit before him and discuss face to face and not when people make some remarks here and there on some posts. Or else it is possible for me to have an opinion about a person if another person whom I trust has had a personal interaction with the person. Since, otherwise it was not possible for me, I said I have no comments about the issue. Anyway your clarification shows that my understanding of the quote was not in tandem with what you have actually meant. Yes I agree with you that some members do have very good knowledge in the system that they profess and my judgment about you is that you have very strong knowledge in KP system and as far as traditional system is concerned you have either not exhibited your level of knowledge or you have not cared to exhibit for reasons best known to you. But at times you have shown your talent especially when you posted your article on Jupiter. So you see, I cannot know the real you or your level of knowledge just from this forum. Now as far as I am concerned I am still a student of Traditional astrology and I have a long way to go and actually I may be wrong in gauging your capability and if so please forgive me. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 Dear Santosh ji, //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or Lalkitab// I meant that there are few members indeed who are really very well knowledged and possess very deep perceptions powers in astrolgy. I am sure you will agree with this. What did you think I meant ? regards/Bhaskar , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, > or Lalkitab// > > > > No Comments. > > > > I agree with the rest of your post. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21 AM > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > sai 16122009 > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who are > into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, or > Lalkitab. > > This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link in > the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why people > do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? > > There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say what > ? > > Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from > here and there are used freely without any sense. > > Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express > it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in > traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make impressions. > At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated > stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive > value. But this one beats them all. > > I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell us > what has been written and meant here. > > This is too much. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , santhosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear sir, > > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as suggested > by bhaskarji. > > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is > anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a > patent. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > <ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal > Sun sai 16122009 > > > > Dear sairaman ji, > > > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be > problems // > > > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost > confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. > > > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, > ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student > or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? > > > > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and > natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are > linked// > > > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? > > > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at > time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be > in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can > expect professional problems // > > > > What is this ??? > > > > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > house from lagna > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > // > > > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? > > > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > // > > > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? > > > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be > cordial or it shall be in high friction // > > > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the name > of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to > make some sense. > > > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but cannot > bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits > beyond toleration levels. > > > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also > written with some respect. > > > > Please respond as required and advised. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > > > That is a wounderful  thought > > > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be > problems > > > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal > 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked > > > > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star > at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it > shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to > 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in > every house > > > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in > every native > > > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself > no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he > is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no > job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am > chennai) > > > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th > house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income > now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years > old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two > children struggling a lot) > > > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > house from lagna > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be > cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > > > " " <ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology > > > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would > experience professional disturbances. > > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal > promise and operative dasha. > > > > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 > relationship. > > > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, In the final analysis what counts is " What I think of myself " and not what You think or others think. If I think I am good (In whatever area it may be , astrology, spiritual, singing, writing, then my respect for me turns better. Even if you think good of me now, but I know that I am not good honestly speaking, then your thinking of me as good, is not good for me. And on the other side, even if you think that I am not good in any area, but I honestly know that I am good, then your thinking that I am not so good in that area, does not make me bad. Sir, thanks for an honest judgement. But - 1) Please go through all postings in the forum, before we make any judgement about any individual being good or bad in any area of prognostications. 2) Another point is that I should know and must have studied the subject what Einstein is talking about, well, when I write that he has less knowledge on relativity and then, be judgmental. regards Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Well the quote meant for me that you knew of each and every member's > capabilities on this forum. This was difficult for me to fathom as for me I > can know of a person's real knowledge only when I sit before him and discuss > face to face and not when people make some remarks here and there on some > posts. Or else it is possible for me to have an opinion about a person if > another person whom I trust has had a personal interaction with the person. > Since, otherwise it was not possible for me, I said I have no comments about > the issue. Anyway your clarification shows that my understanding of the > quote was not in tandem with what you have actually meant. > > > > Yes I agree with you that some members do have very good knowledge in the > system that they profess and my judgment about you is that you have very > strong knowledge in KP system and as far as traditional system is concerned > you have either not exhibited your level of knowledge or you have not cared > to exhibit for reasons best known to you. But at times you have shown your > talent especially when you posted your article on Jupiter. So you see, I > cannot know the real you or your level of knowledge just from this forum. > > > > Now as far as I am concerned I am still a student of Traditional astrology > and I have a long way to go and actually I may be wrong in gauging your > capability and if so please forgive me. > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:13 PM > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > sai 16122009 > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, > or Lalkitab// > > I meant that there are few members indeed who are really very well > knowledged and possess very deep perceptions powers in astrolgy. I am sure > you will agree with this. > > What did you think I meant ? > > regards/Bhaskar > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, > KP, > > or Lalkitab// > > > > > > > > No Comments. > > > > > > > > I agree with the rest of your post. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21 AM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal > Sun > > sai 16122009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > are > > into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, > or > > Lalkitab. > > > > This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link > in > > the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why > people > > do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? > > > > There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say > what > > ? > > > > Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from > > here and there are used freely without any sense. > > > > Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express > > it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in > > traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make > impressions. > > At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated > > stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive > > value. But this one beats them all. > > > > I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell > us > > what has been written and meant here. > > > > This is too much. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, santhosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as > suggested > > by bhaskarji. > > > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is > > anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a > > patent. > > > Regards > > > Santhosh > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > > <ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com> > > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal > > Sun sai 16122009 > > > > > > Dear sairaman ji, > > > > > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord > in > > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be > > problems // > > > > > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost > > confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. > > > > > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, > > ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student > > or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? > > > > > > > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and > > natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are > > linked// > > > > > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? > > > > > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to > our > > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at > > time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall > be > > in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he > can > > expect professional problems // > > > > > > What is this ??? > > > > > > > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > > house from lagna > > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > // > > > > > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? > > > > > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > // > > > > > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? > > > > > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will > be > > cordial or it shall be in high friction // > > > > > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the > name > > of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to > > make some sense. > > > > > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but > cannot > > bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits > > beyond toleration levels. > > > > > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also > > written with some respect. > > > > > > Please respond as required and advised. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, sairam > nat <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > > > > > That is a wounderful  thought > > > > > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord > in > > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can > be > > problems > > > > > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > > > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and > natal > > 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are > linked > > > > > > > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our > > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star > > at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it > > shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 > to > > 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in > > every house > > > > > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in > > every native > > > > > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself > > no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he > > is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell > no > > job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am > > chennai) > > > > > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from > 12th > > house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular > income > > now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 > years > > old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two > > children struggling a lot) > > > > > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > > house from lagna > > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > > > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > > > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will > be > > cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > > > Transit Saturn influencing natal > Sun > > > > " " <ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com> > > > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one > would > > experience professional disturbances. > > > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the > natal > > promise and operative dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 > > relationship. > > > > > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, Your mail has been a bit disturbing to me and am not over with my responses. I shall paste again what I have written in the mail which elicited your present response- "//I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who> are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP,> or Lalkitab//" The above clearly demarcates the point that I have been talkin of astrological levels. This statement does not deride anybody and neither alludes. It is based one experience of interacting with the above members on various occasions over a span of 3 years and above, and discussing with them on astrological matters, reading their discussions, arguing with them and learning, sharing with them and this has been done on various groups, of Lal Kitab, KP, Advanced KP, as well as traditional Groups. I have not been talking of their other capabilities (Read above again) and not been talking about only this group (Read above again). Now Your recent comment - // and as far as traditional system is concerned> you have either not exhibited your level of knowledge or you have not cared> to exhibit for reasons best known to you.// This comment seems to be based on just a fling of thought which has crossed a mind, which has not bothered to read the mails of this Group posted by me (Forget other Groups, this One Group is enough). If You go through my mails you will find that 2% of my total mails are connected to KP Astrology whereas the rest are 98% connected to Traditional. I do not understand your definition of "Exhibition of knowledge level". Please define this. Please also mention why must these be exhibited to You. Please also mention why must you be judgemental on an individual level. Please also mention your eligibility to be judgemental. Please also mention the criteria to be judged. I am unable to understand after always sharing and contributing on the Group to the best of my abilities, why must such comments be allowed and warranted, and from Whom ? This is your bio-data given on the members Database - " an ACCA, and I run a company in Bangalore as its MD. I have started learning astrology 2 years back. Most of my knowledge was imparted to me by Shri Devidasan a kerala astrologer, who comes to Bangalore every month for 2 days to teach astrology. I also do astrology consultations. Myself and Girish are in the process of designing a website www.keralastrology.com " I suppose the above Bio-data gives you power enough to be judgemental enough ? Does it ? (I am the owner/partner of 3 companies today, and one which does business more than 18 crores p.a. in turnovers (Proprietorship ). Does it give me the power to judge people ?) Does 2 years of astrology give power to you to judge my knowledge ? Where have you shared your Kerala Astrology uptil now or exhibited it Sir ? Such comments must not be put without study and just on anybody. This will otherwise boomerang . Its not in good taste. This is like wiping off a persons hard work and efforts to share his knowledge which I have done always honestly, in one stroke. Not acceptable. Sorry. And all these talks are a waste of time for a person and for one who does not have any work. I have much work always on hand and come on these forums to relax and share and gain knowledge. I should not have the time to judge people without giving proof of my judgement, if it not in good taste. Please do not bother to reply. I am not yet over with my comments. Am restraining myself. Do not wish to respond unnecessarily. Be happy with the knowledge you have displayed. No issues. God bless. Bhaskar. , "Santhosh" <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > > > Well the quote meant for me that you knew of each and every member's> capabilities on this forum. This was difficult for me to fathom as for me I> can know of a person's real knowledge only when I sit before him and discuss> face to face and not when people make some remarks here and there on some> posts. Or else it is possible for me to have an opinion about a person if> another person whom I trust has had a personal interaction with the person.> Since, otherwise it was not possible for me, I said I have no comments about> the issue. Anyway your clarification shows that my understanding of the> quote was not in tandem with what you have actually meant.> > > > Yes I agree with you that some members do have very good knowledge in the> system that they profess and my judgment about you is that you have very> strong knowledge in KP system and as far as traditional system is concerned> you have either not exhibited your level of knowledge or you have not cared> to exhibit for reasons best known to you. But at times you have shown your> talent especially when you posted your article on Jupiter. So you see, I> cannot know the real you or your level of knowledge just from this forum. > > > > Now as far as I am concerned I am still a student of Traditional astrology> and I have a long way to go and actually I may be wrong in gauging your> capability and if so please forgive me.> > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar> Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:13 PM> > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun> sai 16122009> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,> > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who> are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP,> or Lalkitab//> > I meant that there are few members indeed who are really very well> knowledged and possess very deep perceptions powers in astrolgy. I am sure> you will agree with this.> > What did you think I meant ?> > regards/Bhaskar> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology , "Santhosh" santhosh@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who> > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional,> KP,> > or Lalkitab//> > > > > > > > No Comments.> > > > > > > > I agree with the rest of your post.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology > > [ancient_indian_> <%40>> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21 AM> > ancient_indian_ <%40>> astrology > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal> Sun> > sai 16122009> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,> > > > I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who> are> > into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP,> or> > Lalkitab.> > > > This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link> in> > the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why> people> > do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? > > > > There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say> what> > ?> > > > Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from> > here and there are used freely without any sense. > > > > Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express> > it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in> > traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make> impressions.> > At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated> > stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive> > value. But this one beats them all.> > > > I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell> us> > what has been written and meant here.> > > > This is too much.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40>> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, santhosh@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear sir,> > > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as> suggested> > by bhaskarji.> > > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is> > anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a> > patent.> > > Regards> > > Santhosh> > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel> > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@>> > > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > > <ancient_indian_ <%40>> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com>> > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal> > Sun sai 16122009> > > > > > Dear sairaman ji,> > > > > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose> > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord> in> > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be> > problems //> > > > > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost> > confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati.> > > > > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical,> > ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student> > or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ?> > > > > > > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and> > natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are> > linked//> > > > > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ???> > > > > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to> our> > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at> > time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall> be> > in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he> can> > expect professional problems //> > > > > > What is this ???> > > > > > > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10> > house from lagna> > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna> > > //> > > > > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ???> > > > > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our> > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also> > //> > > > > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ?> > > > > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact> > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will> be> > cordial or it shall be in high friction //> > > > > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the> name> > of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to> > make some sense.> > > > > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but> cannot> > bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits> > beyond toleration levels.> > > > > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also> > written with some respect.> > > > > > Please respond as required and advised.> > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> <%40>> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, sairam> nat <sairaman53@> wrote:> > > >> > > > That is a wounderful  thought> > > > > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose> > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord> in> > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can> be> > problems> > > > > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems> > > > > > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and> natal> > 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are> linked> > > > > > > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our> > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star> > at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it> > shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35> to> > 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in> > every house > > > > > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in> > every native > > > > > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself> > no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he> > is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell> no> > job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am> > chennai)> > > > > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from> 12th> > house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular> income> > now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48> years> > old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two> > children struggling a lot)> > > > > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10> > house from lagna> > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna> > > > > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our> > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also> > > > > > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact> > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will> be> > cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@>> > > > Transit Saturn influencing natal> Sun> > > > "" <ancient_indian_> > <%40>> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com>> > > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one> would> > experience professional disturbances.> > > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the> natal> > promise and operative dasha.> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8> > relationship.> > > > > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, I hope our mails do not result in another spat between us. My mail has to be read and understood in the particular context. Your mail is unfortunately drawing a conclusion that I judged your abilities and knowledge which I did not hence there shouldn’t be any issue for you to clarify your capability especially as you have said rightly only you will know about you. My quote // So you see, I cannot know the real you or your level of knowledge just from this forum// clearly sums up. So who am I to judge you? Hence your comment // even if you think that I am not good in any area…// is irrelevant. Thanks and Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 Dear Santosh ji, In the final analysis what counts is " What I think of myself " and not what You think or others think. If I think I am good (In whatever area it may be , astrology, spiritual, singing, writing, then my respect for me turns better. Even if you think good of me now, but I know that I am not good honestly speaking, then your thinking of me as good, is not good for me. And on the other side, even if you think that I am not good in any area, but I honestly know that I am good, then your thinking that I am not so good in that area, does not make me bad. Sir, thanks for an honest judgement. But - 1) Please go through all postings in the forum, before we make any judgement about any individual being good or bad in any area of prognostications. 2) Another point is that I should know and must have studied the subject what Einstein is talking about, well, when I write that he has less knowledge on relativity and then, be judgmental. regards Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Well the quote meant for me that you knew of each and every member's > capabilities on this forum. This was difficult for me to fathom as for me I > can know of a person's real knowledge only when I sit before him and discuss > face to face and not when people make some remarks here and there on some > posts. Or else it is possible for me to have an opinion about a person if > another person whom I trust has had a personal interaction with the person. > Since, otherwise it was not possible for me, I said I have no comments about > the issue. Anyway your clarification shows that my understanding of the > quote was not in tandem with what you have actually meant. > > > > Yes I agree with you that some members do have very good knowledge in the > system that they profess and my judgment about you is that you have very > strong knowledge in KP system and as far as traditional system is concerned > you have either not exhibited your level of knowledge or you have not cared > to exhibit for reasons best known to you. But at times you have shown your > talent especially when you posted your article on Jupiter. So you see, I > cannot know the real you or your level of knowledge just from this forum. > > > > Now as far as I am concerned I am still a student of Traditional astrology > and I have a long way to go and actually I may be wrong in gauging your > capability and if so please forgive me. > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:13 PM > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > sai 16122009 > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, > or Lalkitab// > > I meant that there are few members indeed who are really very well > knowledged and possess very deep perceptions powers in astrolgy. I am sure > you will agree with this. > > What did you think I meant ? > > regards/Bhaskar > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > //I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > > are into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, > KP, > > or Lalkitab// > > > > > > > > No Comments. > > > > > > > > I agree with the rest of your post. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:21 AM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal > Sun > > sai 16122009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > I am pretty well aware of the levels of knowledge of all the members who > are > > into astrology on all systems, on these Groups whether, Traditional, KP, > or > > Lalkitab. > > > > This is not a new system but mixing all together without any logical link > in > > the sentences or even words of the sentences. I do not understand why > people > > do this. To create what impressions ? To project what ? To pose as what ? > > > > There are no predictions here, so even the owner of the chart will say > what > > ? > > > > Every line is being written in some state of stupor, and terms picked from > > here and there are used freely without any sense. > > > > Either the writer wanted to say something but did not know how to express > > it, or else this has been done purposely as many others are doing in > > traditional astrology - writing silly complicated stuff to make > impressions. > > At least they make some sense somwehere when they write their complicated > > stuff, thats another matter that it does not teach any thing of predictive > > value. But this one beats them all. > > > > I request any body from the Traditional or Kp fold to understand and tell > us > > what has been written and meant here. > > > > This is too much. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, santhosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear sir, > > > This seems to be some completely new system or else a kichadi as > suggested > > by bhaskarji. > > > Can the owner of the said chart that is being analysed say if it is > > anywhere near truth!!! If so we have an opportunity for applying for a > > patent. > > > Regards > > > Santhosh > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:52:55 > > > <ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com> > > > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal > > Sun sai 16122009 > > > > > > Dear sairaman ji, > > > > > > // however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord > in > > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be > > problems // > > > > > > I demand an explanation for this. This is not at all KP, and utmost > > confusing. This may on the contrary spoil the name of KP Padhati. > > > > > > Please explain this. What has been written is not logical, > > ununderstandable and not mentioned in any books, by any Teacher or student > > or Senior of KP. from where have you picked all this Sir ? > > > > > > > > > // house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and > > natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are > > linked// > > > > > > This is utter nonsense. What is being linked to what ??? > > > > > > // moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to > our > > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at > > time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall > be > > in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he > can > > expect professional problems // > > > > > > What is this ??? > > > > > > > > > //as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > > house from lagna > > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > // > > > > > > What type of Khichdi is this ??? KP, traditional and what more ??? > > > > > > //> we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > // > > > > > > This is Traditional astrology ? Or KP ? Or your invented ? > > > > > > // it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will > be > > cordial or it shall be in high friction // > > > > > > I am sorry but its narrations like the ones which you gave, spoil the > name > > of astrology, any padhaty/systems and hard work of many who are trying to > > make some sense. > > > > > > Please try to explain this nonsense. I am sorry for being blunt but > cannot > > bear to see the degeneration of astrology through such manner and kits > > beyond toleration levels. > > > > > > You write in a himble and kind manner always,and thats why I have also > > written with some respect. > > > > > > Please respond as required and advised. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, sairam > nat <sairaman53@> wrote: > > > > > > > > That is a wounderful  thought > > > > > > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose > > 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord > in > > virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can > be > > problems > > > > > > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > > > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and > natal > > 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are > linked > > > > > > > > > > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our > > 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star > > at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it > > shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 > to > > 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in > > every house > > > > > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in > > every native > > > > > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself > > no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he > > is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell > no > > job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am > > chennai) > > > > > > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from > 12th > > house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular > income > > now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 > years > > old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two > > children struggling a lot) > > > > > > > > as moon  not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 > > house from lagna > > > > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > > > > > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our > > moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > > > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact > > their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will > be > > cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > > > Transit Saturn influencing natal > Sun > > > > " " <ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com> > > > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one > would > > experience professional disturbances. > > > > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the > natal > > promise and operative dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 > > relationship. > > > > > > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Siaraman,In the native born on Dec23,1962, there is Mahabagya yoga as 1. He is male and born during day , and Lagna, Moon ,Sun and Lagna lord is in odd signs. 2 The problem has arisen in sub-periods of Jupiter,Saturn in major period of Mercury on account of following reasons: a. Jupiter is in Marankarka house as well as in mirtuya bhaga. b. Saturn is with Ketu in 2H and adversely activated 6H. c. Mercury is suffering with Kendradhipa dosa as well as Badhaka ( upto some extent its melificance is mitigated on account of conjunction of Sun) d. During these Dasa's , Rahu was transiting over , Jupiter. then Saturn and now Mercury.regards, G. K. Goel From: sairaman53Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:19:29 -0800Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 That is a wounderful thoughtas 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problemsfurther if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linkedmoreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai)here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 yrs wife and two children struggling a lot)as moon not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagnaso that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagnawe can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction thanks with regards sairaman--- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 >Subject: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun"" Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM Dear All,Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances.Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha. Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship.I invite you all to share your views with examples. RegardsNeelam The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Gopi ji, After a long gap of time you are replying to Shri Sairamanjis mail.So theres a issue of trying to understand, at least in my case. I wish to learn from the exchange sought by your goodselves. But first of all I would like to know what approach of analysis has been taken in Shri Sairamanjis mail, which you understand has been taken. And whether your reply is in line of same approach or some other approach. I had sent the mail of shri Sairamnji to a KP Exponent (The biggest one in India today) and he too could not understand what approach and system was mentioned there, coz it was neither KP, nor Traditional or anything else. Its strange that the ashes which had been put to silence and rest are now re-kindled after a stretch of period, and with me around its going to be one more person sitting around the fire trying to either help in kindling it, or once again putting it to silence. regards, Bhaskar. , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote: > > > Dear Siaraman, > In the native born on Dec23,1962, there is Mahabagya yoga as > 1. He is male and born during day , and Lagna, Moon ,Sun and > Lagna lord is in odd signs. > 2 The problem has arisen in sub-periods of Jupiter,Saturn in > major period of Mercury on account of following reasons: > a. Jupiter is in Marankarka house as well as in mirtuya bhaga. > b. Saturn is with Ketu in 2H and adversely activated 6H. > c. Mercury is suffering with Kendradhipa dosa as well as Badhaka > ( upto some extent its melificance is mitigated on account of conjunction > of Sun) > d. During these Dasa's , Rahu was transiting over , Jupiter. then Saturn > and now Mercury. > regards, > > > > G. K. Goel > > > > > > > sairaman53 > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:19:29 -0800 > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a wounderful thought > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born > native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai) > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78 > yrs wife and two children struggling a lot) > > as moon not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction > > thanks with regards > > > sairaman > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > Subject: > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun > " " > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances. > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha. > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship. > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Bhaskar ji,Its a mistaken identity i am afraid!!It was not me(gopi) but G.k.Goel(Gopal krishna Goel ji).....-gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Gopi ji,> > After a long gap of time you are replying to Shri Sairamanjis mail.So theres a issue of trying to understand, at least in my case. I wish to learn from the exchange sought by your goodselves. But first of all I would like to know what approach of analysis has been taken in Shri Sairamanjis mail, which you understand has been taken. And whether your reply is in line of same approach or some other approach. I had sent the mail of shri Sairamnji to a KP Exponent (The biggest one in India today) and he too could not understand what approach and system was mentioned there, coz it was neither KP, nor Traditional or anything else. Its strange that the ashes which had been put to silence and rest are now re-kindled after a stretch of period, and with me around its going to be one more person sitting around the fire trying to either help in kindling it, or once again putting it to silence.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > > , gopal krishna goel g.k.goel@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Siaraman,> > In the native born on Dec23,1962, there is Mahabagya yoga as> > 1. He is male and born during day , and Lagna, Moon ,Sun and > > Lagna lord is in odd signs.> > 2 The problem has arisen in sub-periods of Jupiter,Saturn in> > major period of Mercury on account of following reasons:> > a. Jupiter is in Marankarka house as well as in mirtuya bhaga.> > b. Saturn is with Ketu in 2H and adversely activated 6H.> > c. Mercury is suffering with Kendradhipa dosa as well as Badhaka> > ( upto some extent its melificance is mitigated on account of conjunction > > of Sun)> > d. During these Dasa's , Rahu was transiting over , Jupiter. then Saturn > > and now Mercury.> > regards,> > > > > > > > G. K. Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman53@> > Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:19:29 -0800> > Re: Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun sai 16122009> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is a wounderful thought> > > > as 10th lord in transit in 5th house 8th of 10th > > > > however if 10th star lord if in transit on 5th star lord eg suppose 10th house star lord is raghu in aquaris if it transits in 5th star lord in virgo moon star for rishbha lagna naturally there may be problems > > > > further if 10th sub lord is in transit in 5th sub lord star there can be problems> > > > further if the stars are 1 5 9 houses of kalapurusha sure for problems > > > > > > house, star in that sub of that house and kalapurushas 1, 5, 9 and natal 1, 5 9 house can give problems for profession in transit if they are linked> > > > moreover the transit of moon from the time of birth if it comes to our 8thor 5th house from lagna eg: moon in 4th in cancer in saturn star at time of birth for mesha lagna born> > native in saturn star and it shall be in leo when venus dasa begins nearly in middle of age around 35 to 45 he can expect professional problems > > > > > > you have give good thought for further development to check up in every house > > > > married life professional life along with money is the major items in every native > > > > i have one friend danus lagna with sun and mercury in lagna itself no planet in 10th house or no bad aspect etc 9th and 10th lord in lagna he is bornin jupiter star in libra now running mercury dasa suffering hell no job no money most difficult condition in big family (23 12 1962 7 25 am chennai)> > > > here the 9th and 10th lord in lagna however moon running show from 12th house in mercury star as dasa nowhere he could stay and earn regular income now absolutely no job no money now coming to end of mercury now is 48 years old no savings nothing (old father 88 yrs mother 78> > yrs wife and two children struggling a lot)> > > > as moon not run dasa from 8th or 12th house from lagna > > > > it is presumed that moon in natal chart should be 1,5,9 or 2, 6 ,10 house from lagna> > so that dasas will cooperate from 2,6,10 and 3 7 11 house from lagna> > > > we can check up same for our children also if they are born from our moon to 2, 6 10 things will progress, same is applicable to marriage also > > > > it is also applicable for people like boss etc we meet and interact their DBA should be compatible to our lagna and moon so that things will be cordial or it shall be in high friction > > > > thanks with regards > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > --- On Thu, 10/12/09, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > Subject:> > Transit Saturn influencing natal Sun> > "" > > Thursday, 10 December, 2009, 11:24 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > Whenever Saturn transits over natal Sun or aspects natal Sun, one would experience professional disturbances.> > Whether the disturbance is for good or bad, would depend upon the natal promise and operative dasha.> > > > > > Saturn is the 10L and Sun is the 5L of the natural zodiac, a 6/8 relationship.> > > > I invite you all to share your views with examples. > > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________> > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.> > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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