Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dear friends, Please read these lines properly and slowly. are dekhi zamaane ki yaari bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari kya le ke milen ab duniya se, aansu ke siva kuch paas nahi ya phul hi phul the daaman men, ya kaanton ki bhi aas nahi matalab ki duniya hai saari bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari vaqt hai maharabaan, aarazu hai javaan fikr kal ki karen, itani fursat kahaan daur ye chalata rahe rang uchhalata rahe roop machalata rahe, jaam badalata rahe raat bhar mahamaan hain bahaaren yahaan raat gar dhal gayi phir ye khushiyaan kahaan pal bhar ki khushiyaan hain saari badhane lagi beqaraari badhane lagi beqaraari are dekhi zamaane ki yaari bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari ud ja ud ja pyaase bhanvare, ras na milega kaaron mein kaagaz ke phul jahaan khilate hain, baith na un gulazaaro mein naadan tamanna reti men, ummid ki kashti kheti hai ik haath se deti hai duniyaa, sau haathon se leti hai ye khel hai kab se jaari bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari The above lines from GuruDutts "Kagaz ke phool " is our actual reality of Life. When a child is born, he begins meeting new family members in his Life, Mother, Father, Maternal and Paternal Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts etc. As he grows up he marries and gets one more family member added to his Life. As time passes on , then begins the downward phase of all these relatives whom he has met since childhood, who start disappearing in oblivion. Grandparents, Parents, Uncles, aunties , etc. and finally the wife or the husband one has to also leave, and the man is left all alone in the world, just like he had come all alone in this world. The time begins now for him too, to leave the world. He is now left alone with his, sins, paap-punya, fears and ambitions some met, some unconquered awaiting the dark day when he too will leave on the path the others have left. The purpose of this mail is to ask the learned members -What are the astrological rules for finding out, who will leave first, the husband or the wife ? Hope some one can throw light on this. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji; Lalkitab 1940 page 158-59; How long will husband and wife remain together; Mard v Aurat ke jode ji umar; 1. Venus with aspect from ; i) a friend - wife will outlive the husband's age. ii) an enemy - husband will outlive the wife,s age. 2. Mercury with aspect from ; i) a friend - Husband will outlive the wife's age. ii) an enemy - wife will outlive the husband's age. 3. venus, mercury together with aspect from; i) a friend both will have long life; term ii) an enemy both will have a short life; term 4. venus has aspect from its friend Saturn and mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon; husband will leave this world before his wife; 5. mercury has aspect from its friend Sun, Rahu and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; wife will leave this world before her husband; 5. venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu and mercury has aspect from its friend; wife will leave this world before her husband; not only death; separation by wife leaving the native can also be there. 6. mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; husband will leave this world before his wife; not only death; separation by husband leaving the native can also be there. interpretation from my side; here we are talking of horoscope of male native; in case of female horoscope; substitute husband to wife and wife to husband. no opinion should be formed on this combinations alone; other planets and their placement also matter. this has been quoted in context of academic discussion only. Regards Kulbir Bains. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear friends, Please read these lines properly and slowly. are dekhi > zamaane ki yaari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > kya le ke milen ab duniya se, aansu ke siva kuch paas nahi > ya phul hi phul the daaman men, ya kaanton ki bhi aas nahi > matalab ki duniya hai saari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > vaqt hai maharabaan, aarazu hai javaan > fikr kal ki karen, itani fursat kahaan > > daur ye chalata rahe rang uchhalata rahe > roop machalata rahe, jaam badalata rahe > > raat bhar mahamaan hain bahaaren yahaan > raat gar dhal gayi phir ye khushiyaan kahaan > pal bhar ki khushiyaan hain saari > badhane lagi beqaraari badhane lagi beqaraari > are dekhi zamaane ki yaari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > ud ja ud ja pyaase bhanvare, ras na milega kaaron mein > kaagaz ke phul jahaan khilate hain, baith na un gulazaaro mein > naadan tamanna reti men, ummid ki kashti kheti hai > ik haath se deti hai duniyaa, sau haathon se leti hai > ye khel hai kab se jaari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari The above lines from > GuruDutts " Kagaz ke phool " is our actual reality of Life. When a > child is born, he begins meeting new family members in his Life, > Mother, Father, Maternal and Paternal Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts etc. > As he grows up he marries and gets one more family member added to his > Life. As time passes on , then begins the downward phase of all these > relatives whom he has met since childhood, who start disappearing in > oblivion. Grandparents, Parents, Uncles, aunties , etc. and finally the > wife or the husband one has to also leave, and the man is left all alone > in the world, just like he had come all alone in this world. The time > begins now for him too, to leave the world. He is now left alone with > his, sins, paap-punya, fears and ambitions some met, some unconquered > awaiting the dark day when he too will leave on the path the others have > left. The purpose of this mail is to ask the learned members -What are > the astrological rules for finding out, who will leave first, the > husband or the wife ? Hope some one can throw light on this. > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji,It is nice you have given some combinations on the age ofmarried couple based on Lalkitab and result will depend on aspects.In Lalkitab ,the concept of aspects is different.Kindly explain the aspects ofas per lalkitab ,so that savants may have full benefitof your mailRegards,G. K. Goel From: kulbirbainsDate: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:21:25 +0000 Re: Bicchade sabhi baari baari .............. Dear Bhaskar ji; Lalkitab 1940 page 158-59; How long will husband and wife remain together; Mard v Aurat ke jode ji umar; 1. Venus with aspect from ; i) a friend - wife will outlive the husband's age. ii) an enemy - husband will outlive the wife,s age. 2. Mercury with aspect from ; i) a friend - Husband will outlive the wife's age. ii) an enemy - wife will outlive the husband's age. 3. venus, mercury together with aspect from; i) a friend both will have long life; term ii) an enemy both will have a short life; term 4. venus has aspect from its friend Saturn and mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon; husband will leave this world before his wife; 5. mercury has aspect from its friend Sun, Rahu and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; wife will leave this world before her husband; 5. venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu and mercury has aspect from its friend; wife will leave this world before her husband; not only death; separation by wife leaving the native can also be there. 6. mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; husband will leave this world before his wife; not only death; separation by husband leaving the native can also be there. interpretation from my side; here we are talking of horoscope of male native; in case of female horoscope; substitute husband to wife and wife to husband. no opinion should be formed on this combinations alone; other planets and their placement also matter. this has been quoted in context of academic discussion only. Regards Kulbir Bains. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear friends, Please read these lines properly and slowly. are dekhi > zamaane ki yaari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > kya le ke milen ab duniya se, aansu ke siva kuch paas nahi > ya phul hi phul the daaman men, ya kaanton ki bhi aas nahi > matalab ki duniya hai saari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > vaqt hai maharabaan, aarazu hai javaan > fikr kal ki karen, itani fursat kahaan > > daur ye chalata rahe rang uchhalata rahe > roop machalata rahe, jaam badalata rahe > > raat bhar mahamaan hain bahaaren yahaan > raat gar dhal gayi phir ye khushiyaan kahaan > pal bhar ki khushiyaan hain saari > badhane lagi beqaraari badhane lagi beqaraari > are dekhi zamaane ki yaari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > ud ja ud ja pyaase bhanvare, ras na milega kaaron mein > kaagaz ke phul jahaan khilate hain, baith na un gulazaaro mein > naadan tamanna reti men, ummid ki kashti kheti hai > ik haath se deti hai duniyaa, sau haathon se leti hai > ye khel hai kab se jaari > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari The above lines from > GuruDutts "Kagaz ke phool " is our actual reality of Life. When a > child is born, he begins meeting new family members in his Life, > Mother, Father, Maternal and Paternal Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts etc. > As he grows up he marries and gets one more family member added to his > Life. As time passes on , then begins the downward phase of all these > relatives whom he has met since childhood, who start disappearing in > oblivion. Grandparents, Parents, Uncles, aunties , etc. and finally the > wife or the husband one has to also leave, and the man is left all alone > in the world, just like he had come all alone in this world. The time > begins now for him too, to leave the world. He is now left alone with > his, sins, paap-punya, fears and ambitions some met, some unconquered > awaiting the dark day when he too will leave on the path the others have > left. The purpose of this mail is to ask the learned members -What are > the astrological rules for finding out, who will leave first, the > husband or the wife ? Hope some one can throw light on this. > regards/Bhaskar. > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji, Sorry I just remembered that I have not acknowledged this mail . This is a good mail from your side as usual. Except that it may be difficult for one to understand who may not be well versant with the aspects of Lalkitab. If whenever you have the time to explain the aspects from which house which planet can aspect to which house and planet seated there, please do give us the inputs on the same. regards, Bhaskar. , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji; > Lalkitab 1940 page 158-59; > How long will husband and wife remain together; > > Mard v Aurat ke jode ji umar; > > 1. Venus with aspect from ; > i) a friend - wife will outlive the husband's age. > ii) an enemy - husband will outlive the wife,s age. > > 2. Mercury with aspect from ; > i) a friend - Husband will outlive the wife's age. > ii) an enemy - wife will outlive the husband's age. > > 3. venus, mercury together with aspect from; > i) a friend both will have long life; term > ii) an enemy both will have a short life; term > > 4. venus has aspect from its friend Saturn and mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon; husband will leave this world before his wife; > > 5. mercury has aspect from its friend Sun, Rahu and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; wife will leave this world before her husband; > > 5. venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu and mercury has aspect from its friend; wife will leave this world before her husband; not only death; separation by wife leaving the native can also be there. > > 6. mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; husband will leave this world before his wife; not only death; separation by husband leaving the native can also be there. > > interpretation from my side; > here we are talking of horoscope of male native; in case of female horoscope; substitute husband to wife and wife to husband. > > no opinion should be formed on this combinations alone; other planets and their placement also matter. this has been quoted in context of academic discussion only. > > Regards > Kulbir Bains. > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, Please read these lines properly and slowly. are dekhi > > zamaane ki yaari > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > kya le ke milen ab duniya se, aansu ke siva kuch paas nahi > > ya phul hi phul the daaman men, ya kaanton ki bhi aas nahi > > matalab ki duniya hai saari > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > > > vaqt hai maharabaan, aarazu hai javaan > > fikr kal ki karen, itani fursat kahaan > > > > daur ye chalata rahe rang uchhalata rahe > > roop machalata rahe, jaam badalata rahe > > > > raat bhar mahamaan hain bahaaren yahaan > > raat gar dhal gayi phir ye khushiyaan kahaan > > pal bhar ki khushiyaan hain saari > > badhane lagi beqaraari badhane lagi beqaraari > > are dekhi zamaane ki yaari > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > > > ud ja ud ja pyaase bhanvare, ras na milega kaaron mein > > kaagaz ke phul jahaan khilate hain, baith na un gulazaaro mein > > naadan tamanna reti men, ummid ki kashti kheti hai > > ik haath se deti hai duniyaa, sau haathon se leti hai > > ye khel hai kab se jaari > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari The above lines from > > GuruDutts " Kagaz ke phool " is our actual reality of Life. When a > > child is born, he begins meeting new family members in his Life, > > Mother, Father, Maternal and Paternal Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts etc. > > As he grows up he marries and gets one more family member added to his > > Life. As time passes on , then begins the downward phase of all these > > relatives whom he has met since childhood, who start disappearing in > > oblivion. Grandparents, Parents, Uncles, aunties , etc. and finally the > > wife or the husband one has to also leave, and the man is left all alone > > in the world, just like he had come all alone in this world. The time > > begins now for him too, to leave the world. He is now left alone with > > his, sins, paap-punya, fears and ambitions some met, some unconquered > > awaiting the dark day when he too will leave on the path the others have > > left. The purpose of this mail is to ask the learned members -What are > > the astrological rules for finding out, who will leave first, the > > husband or the wife ? Hope some one can throw light on this. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji; i too read Shri G.K .GOEL's querry today; i will definitely send in a detailed note on aspects as per lalkitab including all dimensions. With Respect kulbir Bains. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > Sorry I just remembered that I have not acknowledged this mail . This is a good mail from your side as usual. Except that it may be difficult for one to understand who may not be well versant with the aspects of Lalkitab. If whenever you have the time to explain the aspects from which house which planet can aspect to which house and planet seated there, please do give us the inputs on the same. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; > > Lalkitab 1940 page 158-59; > > How long will husband and wife remain together; > > > > Mard v Aurat ke jode ji umar; > > > > 1. Venus with aspect from ; > > i) a friend - wife will outlive the husband's age. > > ii) an enemy - husband will outlive the wife,s age. > > > > 2. Mercury with aspect from ; > > i) a friend - Husband will outlive the wife's age. > > ii) an enemy - wife will outlive the husband's age. > > > > 3. venus, mercury together with aspect from; > > i) a friend both will have long life; term > > ii) an enemy both will have a short life; term > > > > 4. venus has aspect from its friend Saturn and mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon; husband will leave this world before his wife; > > > > 5. mercury has aspect from its friend Sun, Rahu and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; wife will leave this world before her husband; > > > > 5. venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu and mercury has aspect from its friend; wife will leave this world before her husband; not only death; separation by wife leaving the native can also be there. > > > > 6. mercury has aspect from its enemy Moon and venus has aspect from its enemy Sun, Moon, Rahu; husband will leave this world before his wife; not only death; separation by husband leaving the native can also be there. > > > > interpretation from my side; > > here we are talking of horoscope of male native; in case of female horoscope; substitute husband to wife and wife to husband. > > > > no opinion should be formed on this combinations alone; other planets and their placement also matter. this has been quoted in context of academic discussion only. > > > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, Please read these lines properly and slowly. are dekhi > > > zamaane ki yaari > > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > > kya le ke milen ab duniya se, aansu ke siva kuch paas nahi > > > ya phul hi phul the daaman men, ya kaanton ki bhi aas nahi > > > matalab ki duniya hai saari > > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > > > > > vaqt hai maharabaan, aarazu hai javaan > > > fikr kal ki karen, itani fursat kahaan > > > > > > daur ye chalata rahe rang uchhalata rahe > > > roop machalata rahe, jaam badalata rahe > > > > > > raat bhar mahamaan hain bahaaren yahaan > > > raat gar dhal gayi phir ye khushiyaan kahaan > > > pal bhar ki khushiyaan hain saari > > > badhane lagi beqaraari badhane lagi beqaraari > > > are dekhi zamaane ki yaari > > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari > > > > > > ud ja ud ja pyaase bhanvare, ras na milega kaaron mein > > > kaagaz ke phul jahaan khilate hain, baith na un gulazaaro mein > > > naadan tamanna reti men, ummid ki kashti kheti hai > > > ik haath se deti hai duniyaa, sau haathon se leti hai > > > ye khel hai kab se jaari > > > bichhade sabhee, bichhade sabhi baari baari The above lines from > > > GuruDutts " Kagaz ke phool " is our actual reality of Life. When a > > > child is born, he begins meeting new family members in his Life, > > > Mother, Father, Maternal and Paternal Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts etc. > > > As he grows up he marries and gets one more family member added to his > > > Life. As time passes on , then begins the downward phase of all these > > > relatives whom he has met since childhood, who start disappearing in > > > oblivion. Grandparents, Parents, Uncles, aunties , etc. and finally the > > > wife or the husband one has to also leave, and the man is left all alone > > > in the world, just like he had come all alone in this world. The time > > > begins now for him too, to leave the world. He is now left alone with > > > his, sins, paap-punya, fears and ambitions some met, some unconquered > > > awaiting the dark day when he too will leave on the path the others have > > > left. The purpose of this mail is to ask the learned members -What are > > > the astrological rules for finding out, who will leave first, the > > > husband or the wife ? Hope some one can throw light on this. > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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