Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dear Members, the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO " Rough transalation ..... house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 - 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8 the 3rd line of the copied page 8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain. 8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect, ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%. What do you think.. which interpretation suits best, i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome; Regards Kulbir Bains , " kulbir bains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun tRIWEDI Ji //Dear Kulbir bhai, Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti. When Pandit ji says 'khana 8 peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned. Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti. In another context Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them. Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal aspect of 100% Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e. i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. Have a nice day, Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains---------- Original message ----------"kulbir"< kulbirbains >27 Dec 09 04:46:57 Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8- 2 = 100 % or 25 % Dear Members, the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO" Rough transalation .... house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 - 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8 the 3rd line of the copied page 8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain. 8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect, ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%. What do you think.. which interpretation suits best, i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome; Regards Kulbir Bains , "kulbir bains" <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > Dear ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dear Shri Kulbir ji, Even your previous mail was completely self explanatory, and so is this one. Thank You for the confirmatory mail. regards/Bhaskar. , " kulbir bains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun tRIWEDIJi //Dear Kulbir bhai,Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti.When Pandit ji says 'khana 8 peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned. Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti.In another context Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them. Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal aspect of 100%Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e.i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect.Have a n > ice day,Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains Original message " kulbir " < kulbirbains >27 Dec 09 04:46:57Subject:[nastrology] Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8 2 = 100 % or 25 %nastrology Dear Members,the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO " Rough transalation ....house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th > house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8the 3rd line of the copied page8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain.8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect,ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%.What do you think.. which interpretation suits best,i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome;Regards Kulbir Bains In nastrology , " kulbir bains " wrot > e: > >Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > .,. Reply to sender |Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity:New Members 11 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and home Switch to: TextOnly, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use .,.,Dear nastrology ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji; Your goodself knew about it already in advance so it appeared to you to be self explanatory. but from a student's view point all relevant and available information has to studied. Lalkitab says owing to paucity of space for words due to vastness of the subject only those words have been included which deserve to be written in blood; a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition. so in the relationship of aspects of 8,2,6,12 houses panphar has to be taken to mean succedent houses. although not in the strict sense as panphar literally means in traditional astrology. 8th house receives no aspect from any house; so it is the starting point thereafter 2, 6 ,12 are referred to as succeeding houses. now it makes complete sense. Respect and Regards Kulbir Bains , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Kulbir ji, > > Even your previous mail was completely self explanatory, and so is this one. Thank You for the confirmatory mail. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > , " kulbir bains " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun tRIWEDIJi //Dear Kulbir bhai,Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti.When Pandit ji says 'khana 8 peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned. Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti.In another context Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them. Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal aspect of 100%Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e.i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect.Have a n > > ice day,Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains Original message " kulbir " < kulbirbains@ >27 Dec 09 04:46:57Subject:[nastrology] Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8 2 = 100 % or 25 %nastrology Dear Members,the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO " Rough transalation ....house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th > > house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8the 3rd line of the copied page8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain.8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect,ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%.What do you think.. which interpretation suits best,i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome;Regards Kulbir Bains In nastrology , " kulbir bains " wrot > > e: > >Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > .,. Reply to sender |Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity:New Members 11 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and home Switch to: TextOnly, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use .,.,Dear nastrology ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 dear Kulbir ji, // a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition.// I too was going to suggest the above, but kept quiet since an ordinary student of Lalkitab and not an Expert. Thank you, Bhaskar. , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji; > Your goodself knew about it already in advance so it appeared to you to be self explanatory. > but from a student's view point all relevant and available information has to studied. > Lalkitab says owing to paucity of space for words due to vastness of the subject only those words have been included which deserve to be written in blood; > a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition. > so in the relationship of aspects of 8,2,6,12 houses panphar has to be taken to mean succedent houses. although not in the strict sense as panphar literally means in traditional astrology. > 8th house receives no aspect from any house; so it is the starting point thereafter 2, 6 ,12 are referred to as succeeding houses. > now it makes complete sense. > > Respect and Regards > Kulbir Bains > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Kulbir ji, > > > > Even your previous mail was completely self explanatory, and so is this one. Thank You for the confirmatory mail. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " kulbir bains " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun tRIWEDIJi //Dear Kulbir bhai,Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti.When Pandit ji says 'khana 8 peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned. Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti.In another context Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them. Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal aspect of 100%Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e.i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect.Have a n > > > ice day,Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains Original message " kulbir " < kulbirbains@ >27 Dec 09 04:46:57Subject:[nastrology] Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8 2 = 100 % or 25 %nastrology Dear Members,the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO " Rough transalation ....house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th > > > house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8the 3rd line of the copied page8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain.8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect,ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%.What do you think.. which interpretation suits best,i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome;Regards Kulbir Bains In nastrology , " kulbir bains " wrot > > > e: > >Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > .,. Reply to sender |Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity:New Members 11 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and home Switch to: TextOnly, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use .,.,Dear nastrology ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji, Okay I will keep awake for one night and settle the score. (Anyways I dont get sleep at night). regards/Bhaskar. , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji; you owe me a one night's sleep but it is worth it. > Respect and Regards > Kulbir Bains > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > dear Kulbir ji, > > > > // a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition.// > > > > I too was going to suggest the above, but kept quiet since an ordinary student of Lalkitab and not an Expert. > > > > Thank you, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; > > > Your goodself knew about it already in advance so it appeared to you to be self explanatory. > > > but from a student's view point all relevant and available information has to studied. > > > Lalkitab says owing to paucity of space for words due to vastness of the subject only those words have been included which deserve to be written in blood; > > > a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition. > > > so in the relationship of aspects of 8,2,6,12 houses panphar has to be taken to mean succedent houses. although not in the strict sense as panphar literally means in traditional astrology. > > > 8th house receives no aspect from any house; so it is the starting point thereafter 2, 6 ,12 are referred to as succeeding houses. > > > now it makes complete sense. > > > > > > Respect and Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > Even your previous mail was completely self explanatory, and so is this one. Thank You for the confirmatory mail. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbir bains " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun tRIWEDIJi //Dear Kulbir bhai,Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti.When Pandit ji says 'khana 8 peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned. Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti.In another context Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them. Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal aspect of 100%Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e.i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect.Have a n > > > > > ice day,Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains Original message " kulbir " < kulbirbains@ >27 Dec 09 04:46:57Subject:[nastrology] Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8 2 = 100 % or 25 %nastrology Dear Members,the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO " Rough transalation ....house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th > > > > > house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8the 3rd line of the copied page8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain.8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect,ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%.What do you think.. which interpretation suits best,i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome;Regards Kulbir Bains In nastrology , " kulbir bains " wrot > > > > > e: > >Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > .,. Reply to sender |Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity:New Members 11 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and home Switch to: TextOnly, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use ..,.,Dear nastrology ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji,"The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep." Robert Frost.Regards Kulbir Bains---------- Original message ----------"Bhaskar"< bhaskar_jyotish >27 Dec 09 17:27:16Re: Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8- 2 = 100 % or 25 % Dear Kulbir ji, Okay I will keep awake for one night and settle the score. (Anyways I dont get sleep at night). regards/Bhaskar. , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji; you owe me a one night's sleep but it is worth it. > Respect and Regards > Kulbir Bains > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > dear Kulbir ji, > > > > // a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition.// > > > > I too was going to suggest the above, but kept quiet since an ordinary student of Lalkitab and not an Expert. > > > > Thank you, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji; > > > Your goodself knew about it already in advance so it appeared to you to be self explanatory. > > > but from a student's view point all relevant and available information has to studied. > > > Lalkitab says owing to paucity of space for words due to vastness of the subject only those words have been included which deserve to be written in blood; > > > a small word in line 5, page 103, 1939 edition which i referred to as PANNARFU actually PANPHAR ( i came to know about it from Shri Varun Triwedi // In traditional astrology the 2, 5, 8, & 11 houses are known as panphar [succedent] houses. // hold's the key to the diagram given in 1952 edition. > > > so in the relationship of aspects of 8,2,6,12 houses panphar has to be taken to mean succedent houses. although not in the strict sense as panphar literally means in traditional astrology. > > > 8th house receives no aspect from any house; so it is the starting point thereafter 2, 6 ,12 are referred to as succeeding houses. > > > now it makes complete sense. > > > > > > Respect and Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Kulbir ji, > > > > > > > > Even your previous mail was completely self explanatory, and so is this one. Thank You for the confirmatory mail. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kulbir bains" <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear members; i have receieved the following reply from Shri Varun tRIWEDIJi //Dear Kulbir bhai,Whenever there is a talk of percentage in the context of aspect, it is always in the sense of 100% or poori drishti; 50% or aadhi drishti and 25% or chauthai drishti. Therefore the mention of 100 feesadi here should be taken to mean 100% or poori drishti.When Pandit ji says 'khana 8 peechhe ko dekhata hai', in this statement no quantum of aspect is mentioned. Therefore it can be safely assumed he means poori drishti.In another context Pandit ji says that houses have normal aspect on the house 7th from them. Therefore the aspect on the 2nd from the 8th can be taken to mean a normal aspect of 100%Even otherwise it is commensurate with the traditional concept of aspects. Therefore to me your 1st assumption appears to be true i.e.i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 percce nt effect aspect.Have a n > > > > > ice day,Varun Trivedi //Regards Kulbir Bains Original message "kulbir"< kulbirbains@ >27 Dec 09 04:46:57Subject:[nastrology] Re: Lal Kitab Aspect8 2 = 100 % or 25 %nastrology Dear Members,the concept is still not clear because; page 58 line 9 of 1942 edition says " khanna no.8 peeche ko dekhta hai, isi asool par no.8 ne no.2 ko dekha aur no 2 ne no. 6 ko to no. 8 ka asar no. 6 mein 25 fisadi hoga aur no. 6 ne no. 12 ko dekha no. 8 ka asar 12 mein chala gaya ya no 8 apna asar no. 12 mein 25 fisadi daalta hai. AB NUMBER 2 MEIN 100 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI AUR NUMBER 12 MEIN 2,6 KI MARFAT 25 FISADI NUMBER 8 KA ASAR MILA HAI GOYA NUMBER 2 DEKHTA HAI 25 FISADI NUMBER 12 KO" Rough transalation ....house no. 8 retro aspects house no. 2 and house no. 2 casts aspect on house no.6 so the 25 percent effect of house no 8 reaches house no.6 and house no 6 casts aspect upon house no 12; effect of 8th houses reaches 12th > > > > > house meaning that house no.8 casts its effect upon house no. 12 by 25 perccent. now house no. 2 has effect/influence of house no. 8 100 percent and house no.2 vide house no.6 puts in 25 percent effect upon house no 12; thereby meaning that house no. 12 has 25 perccent effect of house no. 8the 3rd line of the copied page8, 6, 2, 12 nazar chauthaiye rakhte hain.8,6 2, 12 have 25 percent aspect,ccorelating this with the above written it could mean both i) that effect/aspect of house no. 8 on 6, 2, 12 is 25 percent while house number 2 is effected/aspected by house no. 8 by 100 perccent effect aspect. 0r ii) it is for sure (100 percent) that the effect of house no 8 casts aspect upon house number 2 but the effect/aspect of house no. 8,6,2,12 is 25%.What do you think.. which interpretation suits best,i shall have to study and sort the issue in detail with my seniors; i will post the final outcome;Regards Kulbir Bains In nastrology , "kulbir bains"wrot > > > > > e: > >Dear Members; i have got theexact context from pt. bhooshanpriya ji; Dr. Suresh Upadhay; the best and most dedicated person in the field of lalkitab astrology; he has been our guiding light ;so kindly note the aspect from 8th to 2nd house is of 25%. The attached file has the exact diagram as given in the 1952 edition.Regards Kulbir Bains > .,. Reply to sender |Reply to group Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity:New Members 11 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Parenting Zone: Find useful resources for a happy, healthy family and home Switch to: TextOnly, Daily Digest ¢€¢ Un ¢€¢ Terms of Use .,.,Dear nastrology ! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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