Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear All, Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes --Does Nodes participate in planatory war? --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win? --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win? --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro who win? --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro who win? ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Sirs, What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ? What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ? regards, Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes > > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war? > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win? > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win? > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, Simplified answer is : When two planets are very close, they fight. The fight is for Visibility. Generally the one at higher altitude (and hence easily visiible) wins. Sun & Moon never gets involved in fight with anybody. Venus always win even at lower longitude. There is some exception for Mars too. Result : The winner gets some additional strength at the cost of loser. Some shadbala points are deducted from loser and given to the winner. Loser planet is supposed to be unable to give full benefits. The nodes are mathematical point & invisible. How can they fight a planetary war (they are not even planets). Anyway, I expect good details from Sreenadh-ji, Manoj-ji, Gopi-ji and other learned members. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 30, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Nodes and planatory war Dear Sirs,What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ?What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ?regards,Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:>> Dear All,> > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes> > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war?> --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win?> --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win?> --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win?> --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win?> > ------------------> Regards,> Devisingh>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, I got the answer. --when 2 or more planets are in conjunction within 50 kala (nearly 1 degree) they are said in planatory war. --su/mo/nodes can not take participation in war --war is fought to get strength from the planet --planets having more degree wins war --looser planet have to obey as per planet who gets wins in war. --winner planet gets more power to do any good/bad depends on its nature. However i did not get that 'same sign and same nakshatra' is required or just 1 degree difference have to be looked only? --Thanks for your questions and sorry too. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: Dear Sirs, What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ? What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ? regards, Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear All, > > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes > > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war? > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win? > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win? > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, You would find the relevant (and conflicting views) on Planetary war here http://www.lightonVedic Astrology.com/dailyjyotish-040406.htm The following is copy/pasted from the site When one of the five planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, or Saturn are within 1 degree of one another then they are said to be in a planetary war, or graha yuddha. The Sun, Moon, and the nodes of the Moon, Rahu and Ketu are excluded. These basic points are generally agreed upon by astrologers. However, there is not any uniform agreement about what the factors are that determine which planet wins the war, or about the effects on the planet who wins or loses.Some will say that the planet with lower degrees or longitude wins the war. This is most commonly followed rule in my experience. Others will say that it's the planet of higher degrees. Other texts will stress that it's not about longitudinal degrees but latitude north or south of the ecliptic. The planet that is northerly will win the war. More confusing yet, others speculate that this refers to northerly declination not latitude. Declination is the distance a planet travels from the celestial equator. For instance, the Sun will be at its highest point of declination, about 23 degrees on the summer solstice. However, the Sun is always at 0 degrees latitude. Declination and latitude become difficult to determine because some ephemeris's and software programs will not give the latitude or declination, only longitude. There are also classical references supporting the planet that's the brightest visibly as winning the war. In this case, Venus always wins the war since it's the brightest planet.The effects of planetary war is still another issue. Some will say that both planets suffer just like both countries suffer in a war. Others say that the victor takes over the significations of the loser just like the winning country will hoard the losing country's resources. Sometimes translations of classic texts will also make the issue confusing. Take, for instance, the following two translations of the same verse from the Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra about planetary war: "There is a planetary war if Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, and Saturn are together (within one degree of each other), Venus is the conqueror whether he is in North or South, but amongst the other four only one, who is in the North is the conqueror and that in the South is considered defeated in the planetary war." - Ch. 81 v. 9. "Should there be planetary war between Mars etc. planet and if Venus happens to be in the North or in the South, it becomes victorious. The conjunction of the other planets within one degree causes planetary war and the planet only in the north - i.e. having higher celestial longitude is reckoned as stronger and becomes victorious." - Ch. 81 v. 9. The second translation equates higher longitude with higher latitude. I'm not convinced that this is a proper translation. In the Phaladeepika, it supports the idea of latitude not longitude: "Planets posited in the north, possessing brilliant rays, should be considered as victorious in planetary war." - Ch. 4 v.2Hart DeFouw's book, Light On Life, also supports this concept:"Whichever planet has the higher latitude is declared the winner and is strengthened thereby, while the loser is weakened. Many modern books on Jyotish, however, take the planet with the lower longitude to be the victor. A planet's latitude can be found in tabulated form in a Panchanga (an Indian Ephemeris), but this is usually missing from a Western ephemeris." p. 65Conclusion:As you can see planetary war is a controversial and confusing issue. I am still undecided about it personally. For a long time I've used the general rule that the planet with the lowest degrees wins. This seems to work in many cases. But recently I've found these references from classic texts that indicate other rules to follow. Regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 30, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Nodes and planatory war Dear Sirs,What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ?What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ?regards,Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:>> Dear All,> > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes> > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war?> --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win?> --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win?> --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win?> --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win?> > ------------------> Regards,> Devisingh>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. 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Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 dear devisinghji and all, Thank You for the reply. Even if these two planets are friends as per Panchada Maitry, will they still fight ? And if one of them has less degrees but is owner of that house ? Then what happens ? Who wins ? In results of " What " does the implications of loosing or winning falls? regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > I got the answer. > > --when 2 or more planets are in conjunction within 50 kala (nearly 1 > degree) they are said in planatory war. > --su/mo/nodes can not take participation in war > --war is fought to get strength from the planet > --planets having more degree wins war > --looser planet have to obey as per planet who gets wins in war. > --winner planet gets more power to do any good/bad depends on its nature. > > However i did not get that 'same sign and same nakshatra' is required or > just 1 degree difference have to be looked only? > > --Thanks for your questions and sorry too. > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ? > > What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ? > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes > > > > > > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war? > > > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > > > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > > > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > > > who win? > > > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > > > who win? > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji, Yes, fighting will be there as far as they are within 1degree (not sure same nakshatra??) It is all about the rays of planets (who shine will win war) Planet shine more will win war and called ruler of that area. (It is more like nakshatra Lord.......number of stars may present in nakshatra but lord is only 1 who shine better) Wining planets results have to be considered with more power as it gets more brightness from others. Results are more faced related to wining planets who wins war they can be positive or negative. I am not sure but feels that Nakshatra have to be studied as background where fighting is going on to take decision ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: dear devisinghji and all, Thank You for the reply. Even if these two planets are friends as per Panchada Maitry, will they still fight ? And if one of them has less degrees but is owner of that house ? Then what happens ? Who wins ? In results of "What" does the implications of loosing or winning falls? regards/Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > I got the answer. > > --when 2 or more planets are in conjunction within 50 kala (nearly 1 > degree) they are said in planatory war. > --su/mo/nodes can not take participation in war > --war is fought to get strength from the planet > --planets having more degree wins war > --looser planet have to obey as per planet who gets wins in war. > --winner planet gets more power to do any good/bad depends on its nature. > > However i did not get that 'same sign and same nakshatra' is required or > just 1 degree difference have to be looked only? > > --Thanks for your questions and sorry too. > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ? > > What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ? > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes > > > > > > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war? > > > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > > > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win? > > > --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > > > who win? > > > --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > > > who win? > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dear Chakraborty Ji, There is great contreversy on who wins and who loses. However we all know that when there is a war, both the winner and the loser get bloodied. Hence a planetary war is detrimental for both waring factions. Even the one who wins is affected negatively in some ways. Regards, -Manoj "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 Wed, December 30, 2009 4:00:01 AMRE: Re: Nodes and planatory war Dear Bhaskar-ji, Simplified answer is : When two planets are very close, they fight. The fight is for Visibility. Generally the one at higher altitude (and hence easily visiible) wins. Sun & Moon never gets involved in fight with anybody. Venus always win even at lower longitude. There is some exception for Mars too. Result : The winner gets some additional strength at the cost of loser. Some shadbala points are deducted from loser and given to the winner. Loser planet is supposed to be unable to give full benefits. The nodes are mathematical point & invisible. How can they fight a planetary war (they are not even planets). Anyway, I expect good details from Sreenadh-ji, Manoj-ji, Gopi-ji and other learned members. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 30, 2009 4:01 PMancient_indian_ astrology[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Nodes and planatory war Dear Sirs,What is a planetary war ? And why is it fought ?What happens to the winner ? and what happens to the looser ?regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > Please share your experience considering Planatory war in case of nodes> > --Does Nodes participate in planatory war?> --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet who win?> --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet who win?> --Degree of Nodes are more than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win?> --Degree of Nodes are less than Degree of conjuct planet which is retro > who win?> > ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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