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Dear Rajaashish Ji;Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps.

Jupiter in house no.7

This

position is better in the horoscope of females than males.Gets

some post with authority in some religious or social institution.the

natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for him

that he retains a practical outlook.generally

death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is cremated at

his birth place.journeys

are fruitful for him.the

dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.disrespects

his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after religious

matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is born

to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.when

Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family and

good wealth.when

ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined, when

rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.when

sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrologywhen

house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors are also

rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with

them. He is too much devoted towards religion.mars

or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious discourses

etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth.

His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such

religious personality. He hankers after recognization in religious fields in young and middle

age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.when

house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may

be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to labour

manually.when Jupiter

turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any post with

authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.when

house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny

suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as

asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.when

house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury, Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for birth of son

till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer

After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure.in

malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his

place.

Regards

Kulbir Bains---------- Original message ----------"raiaashish"< raiaashish >28 Dec 09 07:17:29 Lalkitab - Jupiter

 

 

 

 

Kulbirji Namaskar,

Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji in this forum).

 

Regards,

Aashish

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Dear Kulbirji,Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.1. Lal kitab kundali

 

1st house – Mars and Venus

2nd house – Vacant

3rd House – Saturn

4th house- Vacant

5th House- Vacant

6th House- Rahu

7th House- Jupiter

8th House- Moon

9th house- Vacant

10th House- Vacant

11th House – Sun

12th House- Mer, Ketu

 

2. Lal kitab kundali

 

1st House- Mer, Ketu

2nd house – Mars and Venus

3nd house – Vacant

4th House – Saturn

5th house- Vacant

6th House- Vacant

7th House- Rahu

8th House- Jupiter

9th House- Moon

10th house- Vacant

11th House- Vacant

12th House – Sun

I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life. Aashish kulbir bains <kulbirbains Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PMRe: Lalkitab -

Jupiter

 

 

Dear Rajaashish Ji;Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps.

Jupiter in house no.7

This

position is better in the horoscope of females than males.Gets

some post with authority in some religious or social institution.the

natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for him

that he retains a practical outlook.generally

death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is cremated at

his birth place.journeys

are fruitful for him.the

dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.disrespects

his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after religious

matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is born

to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.when

Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family and

good wealth.when

ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined, when

rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.when

sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrologywhen

house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors are also

rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with

them. He is too much devoted towards religion.mars

or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious discourses

etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth.

His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such

religious personality. He hankers after recognization in religious fields in young and middle

age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.when

house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may

be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to labour

manually.when Jupiter

turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any post with

authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.when

house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny

suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as

asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.when

house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury, Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for birth of son

till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer

After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure.in

malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his

place.

Regards

Kulbir Bains---------- Original message ----------"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >28 Dec 09 07:17:29[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiterancient_indian_ astrology

 

 

 

 

Kulbirji Namaskar,

Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji in this forum).

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ashish ji;

if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help

you.

lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your

birth.

2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

3. study of your house.

3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your

actions and what planets you have spoiled.

 

so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you have

some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i

have.

Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

, aashish rai <raiaashish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbirji,

> Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My birth

time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is

Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in

this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities

for lagna.

>

> 1. Lal kitab kundali

>

> 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> 2nd house †" Vacant

> 3rd House †" Saturn

> 4th house- Vacant

> 5th House- Vacant

> 6th House- Rahu

> 7th House- Jupiter

> 8th House- Moon

> 9th house- Vacant

> 10th House- Vacant

> 11th House †" Sun

> 12th House- Mer, Ketu

>

> 2. Lal kitab kundali

>

> 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> 3nd house †" Vacant

> 4th House †" Saturn

> 5th house- Vacant

> 6th House- Vacant

> 7th House- Rahu

> 8th House- Jupiter

> 9th House- Moon

> 10th house- Vacant

> 11th House- Vacant

> 12th House †" Sun

>

> I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am

jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why

I have so many failures in life.

> Aashish

>

________________________________

> kulbir bains <kulbirbains

>

> Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

>

>

> Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be

very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with

degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it.

hope it helps.

>

> Jupiter in house no.7

> 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for

him that he retains a practical outlook.

> 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is

cremated at his birth place.

> 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after

religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is

born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family

and good wealth.

> 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors

are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with

them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious

discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His

condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and

middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.

> 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the

native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to

labour manually.

> 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any

post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny

suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will suffer.

Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He is not

worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity.

The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that

also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a

failure.

> 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his

place.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

>

>

> >---------- Original message ----------

> >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> >ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > >

> >

> >>

> >

> >>

> >

> >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are

exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji

in this forum).

> >

> >>Regards,

> >>Aashish

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

>

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Dear Ashish ji,

//Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am.//

What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated" ?

I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right. How many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay them a Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all capable of doing this .

I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about your Birth time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

Please understand that You have been given the right information coming from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any doubts about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

Bhaskar.

 

, "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Dear Ashish ji;> if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help you.> lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps> 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your birth.> 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.> 3. study of your house.> 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.> > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i have.> Regards> Kulbir Bains> > > , aashish rai raiaashish@ wrote:> >> > Dear Kulbirji,> > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.> > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali> > > > 1st house â€" Mars and Venus> > 2nd house â€" Vacant> > 3rd House â€" Saturn> > 4th house- Vacant> > 5th House- Vacant> > 6th House- Rahu> > 7th House- Jupiter> > 8th House- Moon> > 9th house- Vacant> > 10th House- Vacant> > 11th House â€" Sun> > 12th House- Mer, Ketu> > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali> > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu> > 2nd house â€" Mars and Venus> > 3nd house â€" Vacant> > 4th House â€" Saturn> > 5th house- Vacant> > 6th House- Vacant> > 7th House- Rahu> > 8th House- Jupiter> > 9th House- Moon> > 10th house- Vacant> > 11th House- Vacant> > 12th House â€" Sun> > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life. > > Aashish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > kulbir bains kulbirbains@> > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM> > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter> > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;> > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;> > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps.> > > > Jupiter in house no.7> > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.> > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.> > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.> > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is cremated at his birth place.> > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.> > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.> > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.> > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family and good wealth.> > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined, > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.> > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology> > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.> > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad condition in old age.> > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to labour manually.> > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.> > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.> > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure.> > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his place.> > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > > > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------> > >"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >> > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter> > >ancient_indian_ astrology> > >> > > >> > >> > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,> > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:> > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji in this forum).> > >> > >>Regards,> > >>Aashish> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> >>

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Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about Lagna confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on Your Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

We must be "Men" and not "butterflies". You are being utterly ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has alfready confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong astrologically and then talk.

The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free, does not have much value..

Bhaskar.

 

, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Ashish ji,> > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04> am.//> > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated" ?> > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right. How> many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay them a> Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all capable of> doing this .> > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .> > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about your Birth> time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?> > Please understand that You have been given the right information coming> from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any doubts> about it, is not going to serve any purpose.> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "kulbir"> kulbirbains@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ashish ji;> > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that> will help you.> > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps> > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time> of your birth.> > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking> etc.> > 3. study of your house.> > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened> by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.> >> > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then> also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever> little knowledge i have.> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> >> >> > , aashish rai> raiaashish@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Kulbirji,> > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply.> My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the> place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji> has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the> following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.> > >> > > 1. Lal kitab kundali> > >> > > 1st house â€" Mars and Venus> > > 2nd house â€" Vacant> > > 3rd House â€" Saturn> > > 4th house- Vacant> > > 5th House- Vacant> > > 6th House- Rahu> > > 7th House- Jupiter> > > 8th House- Moon> > > 9th house- Vacant> > > 10th House- Vacant> > > 11th House â€" Sun> > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu> > >> > > 2. Lal kitab kundali> > >> > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu> > > 2nd house â€" Mars and Venus> > > 3nd house â€" Vacant> > > 4th House â€" Saturn> > > 5th house- Vacant> > > 6th House- Vacant> > > 7th House- Rahu> > > 8th House- Jupiter> > > 9th House- Moon> > > 10th house- Vacant> > > 11th House- Vacant> > > 12th House â€" Sun> > >> > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in> 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology> about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.> > > Aashish> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________> > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@> > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM> > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter> > >> > >> > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;> > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham.> it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary> posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;> > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a> note on it. hope it helps.> > >> > > Jupiter in house no.7> > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.> > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social> institution.> > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It> is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.> > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise> he is cremated at his birth place.> > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.> > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.> > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to> hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of> son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his> life becomes smoother.> > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with> large family and good wealth.> > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,> > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.> > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology> > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the> native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure> that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards> religion.> > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for> religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad> phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods> to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a> false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after> recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and> doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad> condition in old age.> > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant,> the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he> shall have to labour manually.> > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native> doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also> doesn’t helps or supports him.> > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus> his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted> son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases> such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with> difficulty.> > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic> capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he> adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his> son, he himself turns into a failure.> > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him> or at his place.> > >> > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains> > >> > >> > >> > > >---------- Original message ----------> > > >"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >> > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29> > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter> > > >ancient_indian_ astrology> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,> > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there> are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't> have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:> > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by> bhaskarji in this forum).> > > >> > > >>Regards,> > > >>Aashish> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> http://in./> > >> >>

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Dear Ashish Ji;

you have indeed committed a blunder;

be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years of rigorous

study is treated like this.

the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to you but i

know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no money is sufficient

to compensate it.

Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about Lagna

> confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on Your

> Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

>

> We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being utterly

> ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has alfready

> confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong

> astrologically and then talk.

>

> The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free, does not

> have much value..

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Ashish ji,

> >

> > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04

> > am.//

> >

> > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> >

> > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right. How

> > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay them a

> > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all capable

> of

> > doing this .

> >

> > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

> >

> > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about your

> Birth

> > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> >

> > Please understand that You have been given the right information

> coming

> > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any doubts

> > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " kulbir "

> > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that

> > will help you.

> > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the

> time

> > of your birth.

> > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking

> > etc.

> > > 3. study of your house.

> > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you

> strengthened

> > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > >

> > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then

> > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever

> > little knowledge i have.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > >

> > > , aashish rai

> > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your

> reply.

> > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and

> the

> > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.

> Bhaskarji

> > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the

> > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > >

> > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > >

> > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > >

> > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > >

> > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in

> > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology

> > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > >

> >

> > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham.

> > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the

> planatary

> > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a

> > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

> > institution.

> > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It

> > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise

> > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

> > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth

> of

> > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his

> > life becomes smoother.

> > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with

> > large family and good wealth.

> > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not

> sure

> > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards

> > religion.

> > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a

> bad

> > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful

> methods

> > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a

> > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after

> > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and

> > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

> > condition in old age.

> > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> dormant,

> > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he

> > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

> > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also

> > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus

> > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted

> > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases

> > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with

> > difficulty.

> > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic

> > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he

> > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of

> his

> > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with

> him

> > or at his place.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there

> > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't

> > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed

> by

> > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > >

> > > > >>Regards,

> > > > >>Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> Homepage.

> > http://in./

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Namaskar Bhaskarji,

Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to cross verify the

precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my entire life about hurting

somebody as revered as you.

 

Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It was about Jupiter

in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04 am as birth time.

 

Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't earned a single

penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I am not worried about the

money here but about the future of the kid.

 

A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one Astrologer(Guru) against

another.

 

Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you have not accpeted

my apology

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

 

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Ashish Ji;

> you have indeed committed a blunder;

> be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years of

rigorous study is treated like this.

> the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to you but i

know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no money is sufficient

to compensate it.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about Lagna

> > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on Your

> > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

> >

> > We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being utterly

> > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has alfready

> > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong

> > astrologically and then talk.

> >

> > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free, does not

> > have much value..

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > >

> > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04

> > > am.//

> > >

> > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> > >

> > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right. How

> > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay them a

> > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all capable

> > of

> > > doing this .

> > >

> > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

> > >

> > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about your

> > Birth

> > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> > >

> > > Please understand that You have been given the right information

> > coming

> > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any doubts

> > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " kulbir "

> > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that

> > > will help you.

> > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the

> > time

> > > of your birth.

> > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking

> > > etc.

> > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you

> > strengthened

> > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > >

> > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then

> > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever

> > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , aashish rai

> > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your

> > reply.

> > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and

> > the

> > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.

> > Bhaskarji

> > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the

> > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in

> > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology

> > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham.

> > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the

> > planatary

> > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a

> > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

> > > institution.

> > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It

> > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise

> > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

> > > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth

> > of

> > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his

> > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with

> > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not

> > sure

> > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards

> > > religion.

> > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a

> > bad

> > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful

> > methods

> > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a

> > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after

> > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and

> > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

> > > condition in old age.

> > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> > dormant,

> > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he

> > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

> > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also

> > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus

> > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted

> > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases

> > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with

> > > difficulty.

> > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic

> > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he

> > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of

> > his

> > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with

> > him

> > > or at his place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there

> > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't

> > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed

> > by

> > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > Homepage.

> > > http://in./

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Okay Dear Aashish,

I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel sorry for having misunderstood you.

But tell me how is your post about "Lagna Confirmations", going to solve your Problem ?

About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we are NOT God, to carve their destinies. This has already been carved before their births. Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the "worry" part to the Lord.

I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years, but I have earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not enough ? And my employer was my own father. You need more informations from me ??? then come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our own destinies, so forget about us looking or being responsible for the destiny of our close ones.

As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible father, a responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go on doing your duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or dollars comes, we are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much for sure, that HE DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH.

best wishes,Bhaskar.

, "raiaashish" <raiaashish wrote:>> Namaskar Bhaskarji,> Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to cross verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my entire life about hurting somebody as revered as you. > > Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It was about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04 am as birth time. > > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't earned a single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I am not worried about the money here but about the future of the kid.> > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one Astrologer(Guru) against another. > > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you have not accpeted my apology> > Regards,> Aashish> > > , "kulbir" kulbirbains@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ashish Ji;> > you have indeed committed a blunder;> > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;> > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years of rigorous study is treated like this.> > the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no money is sufficient to compensate it.> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about Lagna> > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on Your> > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.> > > > > > We must be "Men" and not "butterflies". You are being utterly> > > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has alfready> > > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong> > > astrologically and then talk.> > > > > > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free, does not> > > have much value..> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Ashish ji,> > > >> > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04> > > > am.//> > > >> > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated" ?> > > >> > > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right. How> > > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay them a> > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all capable> > > of> > > > doing this .> > > >> > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .> > > >> > > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about your> > > Birth> > > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?> > > >> > > > Please understand that You have been given the right information> > > coming> > > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any doubts> > > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "kulbir"> > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ashish ji;> > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that> > > > will help you.> > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps> > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the> > > time> > > > of your birth.> > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking> > > > etc.> > > > > 3. study of your house.> > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you> > > strengthened> > > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.> > > > >> > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then> > > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever> > > > little knowledge i have.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , aashish rai> > > > raiaashish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,> > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your> > > reply.> > > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and> > > the> > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.> > > Bhaskarji> > > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the> > > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali> > > > > >> > > > > > 1st house â€" Mars and Venus> > > > > > 2nd house â€" Vacant> > > > > > 3rd House â€" Saturn> > > > > > 4th house- Vacant> > > > > > 5th House- Vacant> > > > > > 6th House- Rahu> > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter> > > > > > 8th House- Moon> > > > > > 9th house- Vacant> > > > > > 10th House- Vacant> > > > > > 11th House â€" Sun> > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali> > > > > >> > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu> > > > > > 2nd house â€" Mars and Venus> > > > > > 3nd house â€" Vacant> > > > > > 4th House â€" Saturn> > > > > > 5th house- Vacant> > > > > > 6th House- Vacant> > > > > > 7th House- Rahu> > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter> > > > > > 9th House- Moon> > > > > > 10th house- Vacant> > > > > > 11th House- Vacant> > > > > > 12th House â€" Sun> > > > > >> > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in> > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology> > > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.> > > > > > Aashish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM> > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;> > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham.> > > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the> > > planatary> > > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;> > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a> > > > note on it. hope it helps.> > > > > >> > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7> > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.> > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social> > > > institution.> > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It> > > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.> > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise> > > > he is cremated at his birth place.> > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.> > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.> > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to> > > > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth> > > of> > > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his> > > > life becomes smoother.> > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with> > > > large family and good wealth.> > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,> > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.> > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology> > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the> > > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not> > > sure> > > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards> > > > religion.> > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for> > > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a> > > bad> > > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful> > > methods> > > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a> > > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after> > > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and> > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad> > > > condition in old age.> > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains> > > dormant,> > > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he> > > > shall have to labour manually.> > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native> > > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also> > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.> > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus> > > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted> > > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases> > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with> > > > difficulty.> > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic> > > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he> > > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of> > > his> > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.> > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with> > > him> > > > or at his place.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------> > > > > > >"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >> > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29> > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter> > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,> > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there> > > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't> > > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:> > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed> > > by> > > > bhaskarji in this forum).> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Regards,> > > > > > >>Aashish> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > Homepage.> > > > http://in./> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Kulbirji,

 

As far as I know chart is supposed to be drawn from palm in Lal Kitab.

What is the truth? and how does it work?

 

regds

Dev

 

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Ashish ji;

> if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help

you.

> lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your

birth.

> 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> 3. study of your house.

> 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your

actions and what planets you have spoiled.

>

> so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you

have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i

have.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

>

> , aashish rai <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbirji,

> > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My

birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is

Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in

this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities

for lagna.

> >

> > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> >

> > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > 4th house- Vacant

> > 5th House- Vacant

> > 6th House- Rahu

> > 7th House- Jupiter

> > 8th House- Moon

> > 9th house- Vacant

> > 10th House- Vacant

> > 11th House †" Sun

> > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> >

> > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> >

> > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > 4th House †" Saturn

> > 5th house- Vacant

> > 6th House- Vacant

> > 7th House- Rahu

> > 8th House- Jupiter

> > 9th House- Moon

> > 10th house- Vacant

> > 11th House- Vacant

> > 12th House †" Sun

> >

> > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I

am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see

why I have so many failures in life.

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> >

> > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will

be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with

degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on

it. hope it helps.

> >

> > Jupiter in house no.7

> > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god

for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is

cremated at his birth place.

> > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after

religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is

born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large

family and good wealth.

> > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors

are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with

them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious

discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His

condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and

middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.

> > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the

native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to

labour manually.

> > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any

post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his

progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He

is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity.

The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that

also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a

failure.

> > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at

his place.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> >

> >

> > >---------- Original message ----------

> > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >

> > >>

> > >

> > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are

exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by

bhaskarji in this forum).

> > >

> > >>Regards,

> > >>Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

> >

>

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Namaskar Bhaskarji,

You are so brilliant and have such vast experience in astrology and life. Please

enlighten me on this confusion. If we have to just follow " karmaney vadhika

raste.. " principle then why to go to an Astrologer or learn astrology for that

matter. After all everything is going to happen as predestined. then why bother

to know anything if it can't be changed.

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Okay Dear Aashish,

>

> I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel sorry for having

> misunderstood you.

>

> But tell me how is your post about " Lagna Confirmations " , going to solve

> your Problem ?

>

> About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we are NOT God, to

> carve their destinies. This has already been carved before their births.

> Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the " worry " part to the Lord.

>

> I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years, but I have

> earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not enough ? And my

> employer was my own father. You need more informations from me ??? then

> come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

>

> We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our own destinies,

> so forget about us looking or being responsible for the destiny of our

> close ones.

>

> As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible father, a

> responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go on doing your

> duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or dollars comes, we

> are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much for sure, that HE

> DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " raiaashish "

> <raiaashish@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to cross

> verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my entire

> life about hurting somebody as revered as you.

> >

> > Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It was

> about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04 am as

> birth time.

> >

> > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't earned a

> single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I am not

> worried about the money here but about the future of the kid.

> >

> > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one Astrologer(Guru)

> against another.

> >

> > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you have not

> accpeted my apology

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> > , " kulbir " kulbirbains@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish Ji;

> > > you have indeed committed a blunder;

> > > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> > > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years

> of rigorous study is treated like this.

> > > the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to

> you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no

> money is sufficient to compensate it.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about

> Lagna

> > > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on

> Your

> > > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

> > > >

> > > > We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being utterly

> > > > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has

> alfready

> > > > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong

> > > > astrologically and then talk.

> > > >

> > > > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free,

> does not

> > > > have much value..

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around

> 10.04

> > > > > am.//

> > > > >

> > > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right.

> How

> > > > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay

> them a

> > > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all

> capable

> > > > of

> > > > > doing this .

> > > > >

> > > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

> > > > >

> > > > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about

> your

> > > > Birth

> > > > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please understand that You have been given the right information

> > > > coming

> > > > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any

> doubts

> > > > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir "

> > > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules

> that

> > > > > will help you.

> > > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at

> the

> > > > time

> > > > > of your birth.

> > > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing

> walking

> > > > > etc.

> > > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you

> > > > strengthened

> > > > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if

> then

> > > > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with

> whatever

> > > > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , aashish rai

> > > > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for

> your

> > > > reply.

> > > > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965

> and

> > > > the

> > > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.

> > > > Bhaskarji

> > > > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the

> > > > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born

> in

> > > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning

> astrology

> > > > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to

> vaham.

> > > > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the

> > > > planatary

> > > > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have

> written a

> > > > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than

> males.

> > > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

> > > > > institution.

> > > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of

> moon. It

> > > > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth

> otherwise

> > > > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his

> fortune.

> > > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

> > > > > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in

> birth

> > > > of

> > > > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45

> and his

> > > > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native

> with

> > > > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously

> disciplined,

> > > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age

> 25-45.

> > > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > > > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is

> not

> > > > sure

> > > > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted

> towards

> > > > > religion.

> > > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > > > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going

> through a

> > > > bad

> > > > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful

> > > > methods

> > > > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he

> accompanies a

> > > > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after

> > > > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and

> > > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

> > > > > condition in old age.

> > > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> > > > dormant,

> > > > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself

> he

> > > > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

> > > > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood

> also

> > > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn,

> venus

> > > > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his

> adopted

> > > > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung

> diseases

> > > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet

> with

> > > > > difficulty.

> > > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in

> malefic

> > > > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45.

> if he

> > > > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth

> of

> > > > his

> > > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be

> with

> > > > him

> > > > > or at his place.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or

> there

> > > > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and

> don't

> > > > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as

> fixed

> > > > by

> > > > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > Homepage.

> > > > > http://in./

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts in

Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

 

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Ashish ji;

> if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help

you.

> lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your

birth.

> 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> 3. study of your house.

> 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your

actions and what planets you have spoiled.

>

> so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you

have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i

have.

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

>

> , aashish rai <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbirji,

> > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My

birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is

Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in

this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities

for lagna.

> >

> > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> >

> > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > 4th house- Vacant

> > 5th House- Vacant

> > 6th House- Rahu

> > 7th House- Jupiter

> > 8th House- Moon

> > 9th house- Vacant

> > 10th House- Vacant

> > 11th House †" Sun

> > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> >

> > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> >

> > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > 4th House †" Saturn

> > 5th house- Vacant

> > 6th House- Vacant

> > 7th House- Rahu

> > 8th House- Jupiter

> > 9th House- Moon

> > 10th house- Vacant

> > 11th House- Vacant

> > 12th House †" Sun

> >

> > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I

am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see

why I have so many failures in life.

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> >

> > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> >

> >

> > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will

be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with

degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on

it. hope it helps.

> >

> > Jupiter in house no.7

> > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god

for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is

cremated at his birth place.

> > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after

religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is

born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large

family and good wealth.

> > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors

are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with

them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious

discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His

condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and

middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.

> > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the

native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to

labour manually.

> > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any

post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his

progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He

is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity.

The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that

also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a

failure.

> > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at

his place.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> >

> >

> > >---------- Original message ----------

> > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >

> > >>

> > >

> > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are

exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by

bhaskarji in this forum).

> > >

> > >>Regards,

> > >>Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

> >

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dear aashish ji,

 

Good discussion is going to ensue now from your Query. I like this.

 

First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have to just

follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. "

 

Then I will write further about what must be the stance actually to be

understood by this shloka, which people have actually misunderstood.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " raiaashish " <raiaashish

wrote:

>

> Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> You are so brilliant and have such vast experience in astrology and life.

Please enlighten me on this confusion. If we have to just follow " karmaney

vadhika raste.. " principle then why to go to an Astrologer or learn astrology

for that matter. After all everything is going to happen as predestined. then

why bother to know anything if it can't be changed.

>

> Regards,

> Aashish

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Okay Dear Aashish,

> >

> > I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel sorry for having

> > misunderstood you.

> >

> > But tell me how is your post about " Lagna Confirmations " , going to solve

> > your Problem ?

> >

> > About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we are NOT God, to

> > carve their destinies. This has already been carved before their births.

> > Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the " worry " part to the Lord.

> >

> > I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years, but I have

> > earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not enough ? And my

> > employer was my own father. You need more informations from me ??? then

> > come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

> >

> > We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our own destinies,

> > so forget about us looking or being responsible for the destiny of our

> > close ones.

> >

> > As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible father, a

> > responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go on doing your

> > duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or dollars comes, we

> > are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much for sure, that HE

> > DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " raiaashish "

> > <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to cross

> > verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my entire

> > life about hurting somebody as revered as you.

> > >

> > > Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It was

> > about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04 am as

> > birth time.

> > >

> > > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't earned a

> > single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I am not

> > worried about the money here but about the future of the kid.

> > >

> > > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one Astrologer(Guru)

> > against another.

> > >

> > > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you have not

> > accpeted my apology

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > > , " kulbir " kulbirbains@

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashish Ji;

> > > > you have indeed committed a blunder;

> > > > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> > > > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years

> > of rigorous study is treated like this.

> > > > the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to

> > you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no

> > money is sufficient to compensate it.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about

> > Lagna

> > > > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on

> > Your

> > > > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

> > > > >

> > > > > We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being utterly

> > > > > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has

> > alfready

> > > > > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong

> > > > > astrologically and then talk.

> > > > >

> > > > > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free,

> > does not

> > > > > have much value..

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around

> > 10.04

> > > > > > am.//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right.

> > How

> > > > > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay

> > them a

> > > > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all

> > capable

> > > > > of

> > > > > > doing this .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about

> > your

> > > > > Birth

> > > > > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please understand that You have been given the right information

> > > > > coming

> > > > > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any

> > doubts

> > > > > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kulbir "

> > > > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules

> > that

> > > > > > will help you.

> > > > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at

> > the

> > > > > time

> > > > > > of your birth.

> > > > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing

> > walking

> > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you

> > > > > strengthened

> > > > > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if

> > then

> > > > > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with

> > whatever

> > > > > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , aashish rai

> > > > > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for

> > your

> > > > > reply.

> > > > > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965

> > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.

> > > > > Bhaskarji

> > > > > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the

> > > > > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born

> > in

> > > > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning

> > astrology

> > > > > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to

> > vaham.

> > > > > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the

> > > > > planatary

> > > > > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have

> > written a

> > > > > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than

> > males.

> > > > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

> > > > > > institution.

> > > > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of

> > moon. It

> > > > > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth

> > otherwise

> > > > > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his

> > fortune.

> > > > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

> > > > > > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in

> > birth

> > > > > of

> > > > > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45

> > and his

> > > > > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native

> > with

> > > > > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously

> > disciplined,

> > > > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age

> > 25-45.

> > > > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > > > > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is

> > not

> > > > > sure

> > > > > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted

> > towards

> > > > > > religion.

> > > > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > > > > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going

> > through a

> > > > > bad

> > > > > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful

> > > > > methods

> > > > > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he

> > accompanies a

> > > > > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after

> > > > > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and

> > > > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

> > > > > > condition in old age.

> > > > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> > > > > dormant,

> > > > > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself

> > he

> > > > > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

> > > > > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood

> > also

> > > > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn,

> > venus

> > > > > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his

> > adopted

> > > > > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung

> > diseases

> > > > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet

> > with

> > > > > > difficulty.

> > > > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in

> > malefic

> > > > > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45.

> > if he

> > > > > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth

> > of

> > > > > his

> > > > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be

> > with

> > > > > him

> > > > > > or at his place.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or

> > there

> > > > > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and

> > don't

> > > > > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as

> > fixed

> > > > > by

> > > > > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > Homepage.

> > > > > > http://in./

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Namaskar Bhaskarji,

Let me try to explain my understanding:

//First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have to just

follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. " //

 

This teaching of Shri Krishna from Geeta advices us to do our work and leave the

fruits to God. We should do the work without expectation of any fruit.

 

Intent of my question was what role Astrology/Astrologer has to play here.

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> dear aashish ji,

>

> Good discussion is going to ensue now from your Query. I like this.

>

> First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have to just

follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. "

>

> Then I will write further about what must be the stance actually to be

understood by this shloka, which people have actually misunderstood.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> , " raiaashish " <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > You are so brilliant and have such vast experience in astrology and life.

Please enlighten me on this confusion. If we have to just follow " karmaney

vadhika raste.. " principle then why to go to an Astrologer or learn astrology

for that matter. After all everything is going to happen as predestined. then

why bother to know anything if it can't be changed.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Okay Dear Aashish,

> > >

> > > I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel sorry for having

> > > misunderstood you.

> > >

> > > But tell me how is your post about " Lagna Confirmations " , going to solve

> > > your Problem ?

> > >

> > > About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we are NOT God, to

> > > carve their destinies. This has already been carved before their births.

> > > Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the " worry " part to the Lord.

> > >

> > > I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years, but I have

> > > earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not enough ? And my

> > > employer was my own father. You need more informations from me ??? then

> > > come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

> > >

> > > We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our own destinies,

> > > so forget about us looking or being responsible for the destiny of our

> > > close ones.

> > >

> > > As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible father, a

> > > responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go on doing your

> > > duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or dollars comes, we

> > > are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much for sure, that HE

> > > DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " raiaashish "

> > > <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > > Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to cross

> > > verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my entire

> > > life about hurting somebody as revered as you.

> > > >

> > > > Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It was

> > > about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04 am as

> > > birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't earned a

> > > single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I am not

> > > worried about the money here but about the future of the kid.

> > > >

> > > > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one Astrologer(Guru)

> > > against another.

> > > >

> > > > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you have not

> > > accpeted my apology

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " kulbirbains@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashish Ji;

> > > > > you have indeed committed a blunder;

> > > > > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> > > > > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years

> > > of rigorous study is treated like this.

> > > > > the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to

> > > you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no

> > > money is sufficient to compensate it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about

> > > Lagna

> > > > > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on

> > > Your

> > > > > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being utterly

> > > > > > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has

> > > alfready

> > > > > > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong

> > > > > > astrologically and then talk.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free,

> > > does not

> > > > > > have much value..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around

> > > 10.04

> > > > > > > am.//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right.

> > > How

> > > > > > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay

> > > them a

> > > > > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all

> > > capable

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > doing this .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about

> > > your

> > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please understand that You have been given the right information

> > > > > > coming

> > > > > > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any

> > > doubts

> > > > > > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kulbir "

> > > > > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules

> > > that

> > > > > > > will help you.

> > > > > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at

> > > the

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > of your birth.

> > > > > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing

> > > walking

> > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you

> > > > > > strengthened

> > > > > > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if

> > > then

> > > > > > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with

> > > whatever

> > > > > > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , aashish rai

> > > > > > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for

> > > your

> > > > > > reply.

> > > > > > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965

> > > and

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.

> > > > > > Bhaskarji

> > > > > > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the

> > > > > > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born

> > > in

> > > > > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning

> > > astrology

> > > > > > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to

> > > vaham.

> > > > > > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the

> > > > > > planatary

> > > > > > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have

> > > written a

> > > > > > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than

> > > males.

> > > > > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

> > > > > > > institution.

> > > > > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of

> > > moon. It

> > > > > > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth

> > > otherwise

> > > > > > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his

> > > fortune.

> > > > > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

> > > > > > > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in

> > > birth

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45

> > > and his

> > > > > > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native

> > > with

> > > > > > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously

> > > disciplined,

> > > > > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age

> > > 25-45.

> > > > > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > > > > > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is

> > > not

> > > > > > sure

> > > > > > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted

> > > towards

> > > > > > > religion.

> > > > > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > > > > > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going

> > > through a

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful

> > > > > > methods

> > > > > > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he

> > > accompanies a

> > > > > > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after

> > > > > > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and

> > > > > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

> > > > > > > condition in old age.

> > > > > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> > > > > > dormant,

> > > > > > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself

> > > he

> > > > > > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

> > > > > > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood

> > > also

> > > > > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn,

> > > venus

> > > > > > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his

> > > adopted

> > > > > > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung

> > > diseases

> > > > > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet

> > > with

> > > > > > > difficulty.

> > > > > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in

> > > malefic

> > > > > > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45.

> > > if he

> > > > > > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth

> > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be

> > > with

> > > > > > him

> > > > > > > or at his place.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or

> > > there

> > > > > > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and

> > > don't

> > > > > > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as

> > > fixed

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > > Homepage.

> > > > > > > http://in./

> > > > > > > > >

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Dear Aashish JI,

 

Man can create enough questions...one can ask....but any answer can not

be Really an answer untill it is coming within you!!!

Each and every answer will create new questions Because 'Gyan hi

Bandhan hai' this does not mean 'agyan' is good that is different.

 

Potential and Results are completely different and separate they can be

guessed based on experience however Potential can be looked.

There are number of techniques that can tell about potential what

anybody have........there are technique they can tell/read potential

only from name ( given by astrologer)

 

Potential does not mean Fruit....It is more like 'Dharma' what you

have.........krushana says 'Sawdharma works itself'

 

You must be aware about prediction done from astrologers at the time

when Buddha Born.....(guess which technique they used!!)

'Gautama' Either Can Be 'Buddha' or It can be 'Chakarworty King'

 

Prediction says about Potential and that is 100% present so only 2

choice can be predicted ..........in older time looking situation for

son of king....with such potential

 

There is nothing much about Fruit that will came or follow your

dharma.....choice is yours.......

 

No prediction

related to choice which can not be..........choice is yours choice can

not be predicted

 

Krushana tells You have 'Rights to make choice' 'Karmanya va

adhikarstu' no choice for dharma/potential

 

If you told to up your 1 feet you have choice right/left but after that

no choice for another feet.......hope this helps

 

What a beauty of Astrologers......They was seeing Potential that is

100%...Result too 100% came we know rest story..........

 

P.S.I am not mentioning that astrologer who came with only 1 choice

 

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

raiaashish wrote:

 

 

Namaskar Bhaskarji,

Let me try to explain my understanding:

//First you please explain me the meaning-translation of "If we have to

just follow "karmaney vadhika raste.."//

 

This teaching of Shri Krishna from Geeta advices us to do our work and

leave the fruits to God. We should do the work without expectation of

any fruit.

 

Intent of my question was what role Astrology/Astrologer has to

play here.

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

,

"Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> dear aashish ji,

>

> Good discussion is going to ensue now from your Query. I like this.

>

> First you please explain me the meaning-translation of "If we have

to just follow "karmaney vadhika raste.."

>

> Then I will write further about what must be the stance actually

to be understood by this shloka, which people have actually

misunderstood.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> ,

"raiaashish" <raiaashish@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > You are so brilliant and have such vast experience in

astrology and life. Please enlighten me on this confusion. If we have

to just follow "karmaney vadhika raste.." principle then why to go to

an Astrologer or learn astrology for that matter. After all everything

is going to happen as predestined. then why bother to know anything if

it can't be changed.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> > ,

"Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Okay Dear Aashish,

> > >

> > > I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel

sorry for having

> > > misunderstood you.

> > >

> > > But tell me how is your post about "Lagna Confirmations",

going to solve

> > > your Problem ?

> > >

> > > About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we

are NOT God, to

> > > carve their destinies. This has already been carved

before their births.

> > > Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the "worry" part

to the Lord.

> > >

> > > I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years,

but I have

> > > earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not

enough ? And my

> > > employer was my own father. You need more informations

from me ??? then

> > > come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

> > >

> > > We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our

own destinies,

> > > so forget about us looking or being responsible for the

destiny of our

> > > close ones.

> > >

> > > As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible

father, a

> > > responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go

on doing your

> > > duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or

dollars comes, we

> > > are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much

for sure, that HE

> > > DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD

ENOUGH.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

"raiaashish"

> > > <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > > Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention

was not to cross

> > > verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even

think in my entire

> > > life about hurting somebody as revered as you.

> > > >

> > > > Please cool down and try to read the first query

carefully. It was

> > > about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take

10.04 am as

> > > birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person

who hasn't earned a

> > > single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's

future. I am not

> > > worried about the money here but about the future of the

kid.

> > > >

> > > > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one

Astrologer(Guru)

> > > against another.

> > > >

> > > > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will

assume you have not

> > > accpeted my apology

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

"kulbir" kulbirbains@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashish Ji;

> > > > > you have indeed committed a blunder;

> > > > > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> > > > > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is

obtained through years

> > > of rigorous study is treated like this.

> > > > > the rectification of your birth time might

seem to be a freebie to

> > > you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable

of it. and no

> > > money is sufficient to compensate it.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

"Bhaskar"

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to

another, and asking about

> > > Lagna

> > > > > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard

work done by somebody on

> > > Your

> > > > > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask

for further info.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We must be "Men" and not "butterflies".

You are being utterly

> > > > > > ungrateful when you ask someone to

confirm what another has

> > > alfready

> > > > > > confirmed for You. prove the previous

confirmation as wrong

> > > > > > astrologically and then talk.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The problem these days , is that whatever

is received for free,

> > > does not

> > > > > > have much value..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

"Bhaskar"

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this

forum that it can be around

> > > 10.04

> > > > > > > am.//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has

indicated" ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have not indicated. I have proved

it to you that it is right.

> > > How

> > > > > > > many Astrologers in india can do

this for You even if you pay

> > > them a

> > > > > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it,

because they are not all

> > > capable

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > doing this .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove

my given birth timings .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But again they were silent when you

asked in the Group about

> > > your

> > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > time, so what right they have now to

dissaprove?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please understand that You have been

given the right information

> > > > > > coming

> > > > > > > from accurate precesion use of

astrological principles, and any

> > > doubts

> > > > > > > about it, is not going to serve any

purpose.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

"kulbir"

> > > > > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > > > > if you want lalkitab

consultation, let me tell you some rules

> > > that

> > > > > > > will help you.

> > > > > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4

steps

> > > > > > > > 1. study of you horoscope

erected from planetary positions at

> > > the

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > of your birth.

> > > > > > > > 2. study of your palm,

physique, manner of talking writing

> > > walking

> > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > > > > 3. your actions in this life

time, what planets have you

> > > > > > strengthened

> > > > > > > by your actions and what planets you

have spoiled.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > so consult some professional

whom you can meet personally. if

> > > then

> > > > > > > also you have some doubts. i am

always there to help you with

> > > whatever

> > > > > > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

aashish rai

> > > > > > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > > > > Let me first wish you a

Happy New year. Thanks a lot for

> > > your

> > > > > > reply.

> > > > > > > My birth time is not recorded hence

the problem. It's 14/11/1965

> > > and

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after

sunrise and before noon.

> > > > > > Bhaskarji

> > > > > > > has indicated in this forum that it

can be around 10.04 am. the

> > > > > > > following are the 2 possibilities

for lagna.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1st house â€" Mars and

Venus

> > > > > > > > > 2nd house â€" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 3rd House â€" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 11th House â€" Sun

> > > > > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > > 2nd house â€" Mars and

Venus

> > > > > > > > > 3nd house â€" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 4th House â€" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > 12th House â€" Sun

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I

have only one child(son). He was born

> > > in

> > > > > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3

years, started learning

> > > astrology

> > > > > > > about 6 months to see why I have so

many failures in life.

> > > > > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > kulbir bains

kulbirbains@

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010

8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re:

Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > > > > Decision taken on

placement of one planet will only lead to

> > > vaham.

> > > > > > > it will be very kind of you if you

could please write down the

> > > > > > planatary

> > > > > > > posion with degrees; also degree of

ascendant;

> > > > > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is

concerned in isolation i have

> > > written a

> > > > > > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > > > > 1. This position is better

in the horoscope of females than

> > > males.

> > > > > > > > > 2. Gets some post with

authority in some religious or social

> > > > > > > institution.

> > > > > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal

position depends upon the nature of

> > > moon. It

> > > > > > > is god for him that he retains a

practical outlook.

> > > > > > > > > 4. generally death takes

place at the place of his birth

> > > otherwise

> > > > > > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful

for him.

> > > > > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife

brings in marriage boosts his

> > > fortune.

> > > > > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties

towards house and marriage due to

> > > > > > > hankering after religious matters

and this results in delay in

> > > birth

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > son. However a son is born to him in

the age span of 34 to 45

> > > and his

> > > > > > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house

no 7 or 9 it blesses the native

> > > with

> > > > > > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic,

the native is religiously

> > > disciplined,

> > > > > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic,

rich and just especially in age

> > > 25-45.

> > > > > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1

inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > > > > 12. when house no

1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > > > > > > native’s ancestors are also rich

and renowned but it is

> > > not

> > > > > > sure

> > > > > > > that he will also be at par with

them. He is too much devoted

> > > towards

> > > > > > > religion.

> > > > > > > > > 13. mars or mercury

malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > > > > > > religious discourses etc. his sister

or aunt will be going

> > > through a

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > phase. Financial condition is not

sound. Can resort to unlawful

> > > > > > methods

> > > > > > > to collect wealth. His condition

will become worst if he

> > > accompanies a

> > > > > > > false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after

> > > > > > > recognizationin religious fields in

young and middle age and

> > > > > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny,

which results in his bad

> > > > > > > condition in old age.

> > > > > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2

are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> > > > > > dormant,

> > > > > > > the native may be a gold mine for

others but for feeding himself

> > > he

> > > > > > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns

malefic in this house. The native

> > > > > > > doesn’t gets any post with

authority, his brotherhood

> > > also

> > > > > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > > > > 16. when house no

1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn,

> > > venus

> > > > > > > his progeny suffers especially if

venus becomes weak. Even his

> > > adopted

> > > > > > > son will suffer. Father or

grandfather will suffer from lung

> > > diseases

> > > > > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly

smart. Makes both ends meet

> > > with

> > > > > > > difficulty.

> > > > > > > > > 17. when house no

2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in

> > > malefic

> > > > > > > capacity. The native longs for birth

of son till the age of 45.

> > > if he

> > > > > > > adopts a child that also suffers.

May stammer After 45 and birth

> > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > > > > 18. in malefic results

rattis or items or mars bad will be

> > > with

> > > > > > him

> > > > > > > or at his place.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >---------- Original

message ----------

> > > > > > > > > >"raiaashish"<

raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > > > > >28 Dec 09

07:17:29

> > > > > > > > > >Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_

astrology

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th

always bad for the sons of the native or

> > > there

> > > > > > > are exceptions? I am little worried

as my Jupiter is in 7th and

> > > don't

> > > > > > > have any earnings from last 3 years.

My details are:

> > > > > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965,

Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as

> > > fixed

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a

personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > > Homepage.

> > > > > > > http://in./

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Ashish ji;

South Indians are best in astrology.

There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation /

communication with you.

Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

Academic pursuit is a different field.

Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

one is a luxury another is necessity.

Regards.

Kulbir Bains

 

, " raiaashish " <raiaashish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts in

Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

>

> Regards,

> Aashish

>

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ashish ji;

> > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help

you.

> > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of

your birth.

> > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> > 3. study of your house.

> > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by

your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> >

> > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you

have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i

have.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> >

> > , aashish rai <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My

birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is

Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in

this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities

for lagna.

> > >

> > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > >

> > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > 8th House- Moon

> > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > >

> > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > >

> > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > 9th House- Moon

> > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > 12th House †" Sun

> > >

> > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I

am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see

why I have so many failures in life.

> > > Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > >

> > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will

be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with

degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on

it. hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god

for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is

cremated at his birth place.

> > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering

after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son

is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large

family and good wealth.

> > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s

ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at

par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious

discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His

condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and

middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.

> > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the

native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to

labour manually.

> > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets

any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his

progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He

is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic

capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a

child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself

turns into a failure.

> > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at

his place.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are

exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by

bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > >

> > > >>Regards,

> > > >>Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in./

> > >

> >

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Dear Aashishji,

 

//This teaching of Shri Krishna from Geeta advices us to do our work and leave

the fruits to God. //

 

[vijay]True..

 

//We should do the work without expectation of any fruit.//

 

Not completely true statement, has many condition associate with it.

 

 

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

 

 

 

, " raiaashish " <raiaashish

wrote:

>

> Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> Let me try to explain my understanding:

> //First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have to just

follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. " //

>

> This teaching of Shri Krishna from Geeta advices us to do our work and leave

the fruits to God. We should do the work without expectation of any fruit.

>

> Intent of my question was what role Astrology/Astrologer has to play here.

>

> Regards,

> Aashish

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > dear aashish ji,

> >

> > Good discussion is going to ensue now from your Query. I like this.

> >

> > First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have to just

follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. "

> >

> > Then I will write further about what must be the stance actually to be

understood by this shloka, which people have actually misunderstood.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " raiaashish " <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > You are so brilliant and have such vast experience in astrology and life.

Please enlighten me on this confusion. If we have to just follow " karmaney

vadhika raste.. " principle then why to go to an Astrologer or learn astrology

for that matter. After all everything is going to happen as predestined. then

why bother to know anything if it can't be changed.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Okay Dear Aashish,

> > > >

> > > > I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel sorry for having

> > > > misunderstood you.

> > > >

> > > > But tell me how is your post about " Lagna Confirmations " , going to solve

> > > > your Problem ?

> > > >

> > > > About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we are NOT God, to

> > > > carve their destinies. This has already been carved before their births.

> > > > Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the " worry " part to the Lord.

> > > >

> > > > I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years, but I have

> > > > earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not enough ? And my

> > > > employer was my own father. You need more informations from me ??? then

> > > > come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

> > > >

> > > > We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our own destinies,

> > > > so forget about us looking or being responsible for the destiny of our

> > > > close ones.

> > > >

> > > > As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible father, a

> > > > responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go on doing your

> > > > duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or dollars comes, we

> > > > are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much for sure, that HE

> > > > DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " raiaashish "

> > > > <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > > > Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to cross

> > > > verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my entire

> > > > life about hurting somebody as revered as you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It was

> > > > about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04 am as

> > > > birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't earned a

> > > > single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I am not

> > > > worried about the money here but about the future of the kid.

> > > > >

> > > > > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one Astrologer(Guru)

> > > > against another.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you have not

> > > > accpeted my apology

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir " kulbirbains@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ashish Ji;

> > > > > > you have indeed committed a blunder;

> > > > > > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> > > > > > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained through years

> > > > of rigorous study is treated like this.

> > > > > > the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a freebie to

> > > > you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it. and no

> > > > money is sufficient to compensate it.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking about

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by somebody on

> > > > Your

> > > > > > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being utterly

> > > > > > > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another has

> > > > alfready

> > > > > > > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as wrong

> > > > > > > astrologically and then talk.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for free,

> > > > does not

> > > > > > > have much value..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around

> > > > 10.04

> > > > > > > > am.//

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is right.

> > > > How

> > > > > > > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if you pay

> > > > them a

> > > > > > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not all

> > > > capable

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > doing this .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth timings .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group about

> > > > your

> > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please understand that You have been given the right information

> > > > > > > coming

> > > > > > > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles, and any

> > > > doubts

> > > > > > > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " kulbir "

> > > > > > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > will help you.

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at

> > > > the

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > of your birth.

> > > > > > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing

> > > > walking

> > > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you

> > > > > > > strengthened

> > > > > > > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if

> > > > then

> > > > > > > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with

> > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , aashish rai

> > > > > > > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for

> > > > your

> > > > > > > reply.

> > > > > > > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965

> > > > and

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon.

> > > > > > > Bhaskarji

> > > > > > > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the

> > > > > > > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to

> > > > vaham.

> > > > > > > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the

> > > > > > > planatary

> > > > > > > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have

> > > > written a

> > > > > > > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than

> > > > males.

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

> > > > > > > > institution.

> > > > > > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of

> > > > moon. It

> > > > > > > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth

> > > > otherwise

> > > > > > > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his

> > > > fortune.

> > > > > > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

> > > > > > > > hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in

> > > > birth

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45

> > > > and his

> > > > > > > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously

> > > > disciplined,

> > > > > > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age

> > > > 25-45.

> > > > > > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

> > > > > > > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > sure

> > > > > > > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted

> > > > towards

> > > > > > > > religion.

> > > > > > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

> > > > > > > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going

> > > > through a

> > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful

> > > > > > > methods

> > > > > > > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he

> > > > accompanies a

> > > > > > > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after

> > > > > > > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and

> > > > > > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

> > > > > > > > condition in old age.

> > > > > > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

> > > > > > > dormant,

> > > > > > > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself

> > > > he

> > > > > > > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

> > > > > > > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood

> > > > also

> > > > > > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn,

> > > > venus

> > > > > > > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his

> > > > adopted

> > > > > > > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung

> > > > diseases

> > > > > > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > difficulty.

> > > > > > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in

> > > > malefic

> > > > > > > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45.

> > > > if he

> > > > > > > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth

> > > > of

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be

> > > > with

> > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > or at his place.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

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> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or

> > > > there

> > > > > > > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and

> > > > don't

> > > > > > > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as

> > > > fixed

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > > > > > >

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Namaskar Kulbirji,

FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal

infulence.

 

Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly. I

have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this suggest?

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

> Dear Ashish ji;

> South Indians are best in astrology.

> There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

> It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation /

communication with you.

> Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

> Academic pursuit is a different field.

> Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

> one is a luxury another is necessity.

> Regards.

> Kulbir Bains

>

> , " raiaashish " <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts in

Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will

help you.

> > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of

your birth.

> > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> > > 3. study of your house.

> > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by

your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > >

> > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also

you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little

knowledge i have.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > >

> > > , aashish rai <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My

birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is

Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in

this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities

for lagna.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > >

> > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > >

> > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > >

> > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > >

> > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As

I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see

why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > > >

> > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it

will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion

with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note

on it. hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

institution.

> > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is

god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he

is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering

after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son

is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large

family and good wealth.

> > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s

ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at

par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious

discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His

condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and

middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad

condition in old age.

> > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the

native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to

labour manually.

> > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets

any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his

progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He

is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic

capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a

child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself

turns into a failure.

> > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or

at his place.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are

exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by

bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > >

> > > > >>Regards,

> > > > >>Aashish

> > > > >

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Sorry brother; i am living in a village; for us anybody other than punjab haryana himachal delhi rajashthan and assam sikkim etc. is a south indian.i stand corrected.thanksRegards

Kulbir Bains---------- Original message ----------"raiaashish"< raiaashish >07 Jan 10 16:09:14 Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

 

 

 

 

Namaskar Kulbirji,

FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal infulence.

 

Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly. I have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this suggest?

 

Regards,

Aashish

 

, "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Dear Ashish ji;

> South Indians are best in astrology.

> There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

> It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation / communication with you.

> Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

> Academic pursuit is a different field.

> Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

> one is a luxury another is necessity.

> Regards.

> Kulbir Bains

>

> , "raiaashish" <raiaashish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts in Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> >

> > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help you.

> > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your birth.

> > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> > > 3. study of your house.

> > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > >

> > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i have.

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > >

> > > , aashish rai <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > >

> > > > 1st house ¢€" Mars and Venus

> > > > 2nd house ¢€" Vacant

> > > > 3rd House ¢€" Saturn

> > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > 11th House ¢€" Sun

> > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > >

> > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > >

> > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > 2nd house ¢€" Mars and Venus

> > > > 3nd house ¢€" Vacant

> > > > 4th House ¢€" Saturn

> > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > 12th House ¢€" Sun

> > > >

> > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > > >

> > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family and good wealth.

> > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native¢€™s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and doesn¢€™t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad condition in old age.

> > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to labour manually.

> > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn¢€™t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn¢€™t helps or supports him.

> > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his place.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > >"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > >

> > > > >>Regards,

> > > > >>Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Mr. Ashish Ji,

Question //I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly. I

have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this

suggest?//

Answer : Please start from 1939 edition. This edition has the information you

are looking for.

Don't take any line or mark in isolation; check all lines; timing of events from

lines.

Correlate the lines, mounts, marks, etc with your natal horoscope plus the

Varshphal prepared by lalkitab Varshphal Chart coinciding with timing. This will

reveal what the mark/spot means.

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

, " kulbir bains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sorry brother; i am living in a village; for us anybody other than punjab

haryana himachal delhi rajashthan and assam sikkim etc. is a south indian.i

stand corrected.thanksRegards Kulbir Bains Original message " raiaashish " <

raiaashish >07 Jan 10 16:09:14Subject:[nastrology] Re:

Lalkitab Jupiternastrology Namaskar Kulbirji,

FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal

infulence. Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but

slowly. I have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this

suggest?Regards, Aashish In nastrology ,

" kulbir " wrote: > > Dear Ashish ji; > South Indians are best in astrology. >

There must be good astrologers in Orissa also. > It is always better to consult

someone who can have one to one relation / communication with you. > Desh; Kaal;

Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques. > Acade

> mic pursuit is a different field. > Consultation and seeking guidelines is

something totally different. > one is a luxury another is necessity. > Regards.

> Kulbir Bains >> In nastrology , " raiaashish " wrote:

> > > > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar, > > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there

are no true Lal Kitab experts in Orissa. If you happen to know can you please

pass on the info. > >> > Regards, > > Aashish > > > >> > In

nastrology , " kulbir " wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ashish

ji; > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that

will help you. > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps > > > 1. study of you

horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your birth. > > > 2.

study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc. > > > 3.

study of your house. > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have

you strengthened by your actions and what planets you have s

> poiled. > > >> > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally.

if then also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever

little knowledge i have. > > > Regards > > > Kulbir Bains > > >> > >> > > In

nastrology , aashish raiwrote: > > > > > > > > Dear

Kulbirji, > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your

reply. My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's14/11/1965 and the

place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has

indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2

possibilities for lagna. > > > >> > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali > > > >> > > > 1st

house ¢€ " Mars and Venus > > > > 2nd house ¢€ " Vacant > > > > 3rd House

¢€ " Saturn > > > > 4th house Vacant > > > > 5th House Vacant > > > > 6th

House Rahu > > > > 7th House Jupiter > > > > 8th House Moon > > > > 9th house

Vacant > > > > 10th House Vacant > > > > 11th Ho

> use ¢€ " Sun > > > > 12th House Mer, Ketu > > > >> > > > 2. Lal kitab

kundali > > > >> > > > 1st House Mer, Ketu > > > > 2nd house ¢€ " Mars and

Venus > > > > 3nd house ¢€ " Vacant > > > > 4th House ¢€ " Saturn > > > >

5th house Vacant > > > > 6th House Vacant > > > > 7th House Rahu > > > > 8th

House Jupiter > > > > 9th House Moon > > > > 10th house Vacant > > > > 11th

House Vacant > > > > 12th House ¢€ " Sun > > > >> > > > I am the Eldest son. I

have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am jobless from last 3

years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why I have so many

failures in life. > > > > Aashish > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> >

> >> > > > > > > > kulbir bains> > > > nastrology> > > >

Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM > > > > Subject:

Re:[nastrology] Lalkitab Jupiter > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear

Rajaashish Ji; > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead

to vaham.

> it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary

posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant; > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is

concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps. > > > >> > >

> Jupiter in house no.7 > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of

females than males. > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious

or social institution. > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the

nature of moon. It is god for him that he retains a practical outlook. > > > >

4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is

cremated at his birth place. > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him. > > > >

6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune. > > > > 7.

disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after

religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is

born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becom

> es smoother. > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the

native with large family and good wealth. > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the

native is religiously disciplined,> > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and

just especially in age 2545. > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards

astrology > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

native¢€™s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he

will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion. > > > >

13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious

discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial

condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His

condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious

personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and

middle age and doesn¢€™t cares about his progeny, which res

> ults in his bad condition in old age. > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are

vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may be a gold mine for others

but for feeding himself he shall have to labour manually. > > > > 15. when

Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn¢€™t gets any post

with authority, his brotherhood also doesn¢€™t helps or supports him. > > >

> 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny

suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will suffer.

Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He is not

worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty. > > > > 17. when house no

2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for

birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May

stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure. > > > >

18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad

> will be with him or at his place. > > > >> > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir

Bains > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > Original message > > > >

>" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > >Subject:[n astrology] Lalkitab Jupiter > > > > >To:

n astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar, > > > > >>Is

Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I

am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last

3 years. My details are: > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob:

10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarjiin this forum). > > > > > > > > > >>Regards, > >

> > >>Aashish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > The

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Dear Ashish,

 

Normally black mole represent Saturn, sometimes it also represent Rahu, if

bigger and irregular in size and shape with different color.

 

Since it is present on left hand on the mount of moon so it could mean 'phobia

of water'.

 

It also indicate Saturn and Moon relationship in the horoscope in your

horoscope.

 

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

 

 

, " raiaashish " <raiaashish

wrote:

>

> Namaskar Kulbirji,

> FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal

infulence.

>

> Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly. I

have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this suggest?

>

> Regards,

> Aashish

>

> , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ashish ji;

> > South Indians are best in astrology.

> > There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

> > It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation /

communication with you.

> > Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

> > Academic pursuit is a different field.

> > Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

> > one is a luxury another is necessity.

> > Regards.

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> > , " raiaashish " <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts

in Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will

help you.

> > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time

of your birth.

> > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by

your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > >

> > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also

you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little

knowledge i have.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , aashish rai

<raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply.

My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place

is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated

in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2

possibilities for lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996.

As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to

see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it

will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion

with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note

on it. hope it helps.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

institution.

> > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is

god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he

is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering

after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son

is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large

family and good wealth.

> > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s

ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at

par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase.

Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect

wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such

religious personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in

young and middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his

bad condition in old age.

> > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant,

the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have

to labour manually.

> > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t

gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports

him.

> > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his

progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He

is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic

capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a

child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself

turns into a failure.

> > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him

or at his place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are

exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by

bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in./

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Vijay Goel Ji;

I would like to mention 2 points here.

1. There was a young person from tanda Jallandhar. He published a book titled Sunheri Kitab. A very small book i think it had only 60-70 pages based on lalkitab. He dealt with the subject of moles extensively. He published part 1 only and expired in an unfortunate accident. I had the book for some years but gave it to somebody. it is out of edition. kindly try to locate a copy from your resources.

 

2. As you know it always helps a professional astrologer to tell the native about something that only the native knows. There are few tricks of the trade. one is related to mole/til on male organ. The astrologer sees a kundali or palm and tells that the native that you have a til at this place. Your goodself being a science graduate must be knowing what type of skin cells makes a til and this tricks works in 99.5 percent cases.

 

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj

 

Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:56 pm

Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashish,

 

Normally black mole represent Saturn, sometimes it also represent Rahu, if bigger and irregular in size and shape with different color.

 

Since it is present on left hand on the mount of moon so it could mean 'phobia of water'.

 

It also indicate Saturn and Moon relationship in the horoscope in your horoscope.

 

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

, "raiaashish" <raiaashish wrote:

>

> Namaskar Kulbirji,

> FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal infulence.

>

> Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly. I have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this suggest?

>

> Regards,

> Aashish

>

> , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ashish ji;

> > South Indians are best in astrology.

> > There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

> > It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation / communication with you.

> > Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

> > Academic pursuit is a different field.

> > Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

> > one is a luxury another is necessity.

> > Regards.

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> > , "raiaashish" <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts in Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help you.

> > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your birth.

> > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > >

> > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i have.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , aashish rai <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st house â€" Mars and Venus

> > > > > 2nd house â€" Vacant

> > > > > 3rd House â€" Saturn

> > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > 11th House â€" Sun

> > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > >

> > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > 2nd house â€" Mars and Venus

> > > > > 3nd house â€" Vacant

> > > > > 4th House â€" Saturn

> > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > 12th House â€" Sun

> > > > >

> > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family and good wealth.

> > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad condition in old age.

> > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > >"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > >

> > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Kulbhir Bhaiji,

 

I will try to locate 'sunheri kitab' if someone would have it in Jaipur.

If we seriously try to locate at international publisher, we can get many books

and research work on moles. This method is still used extensively by Chinese,

Japanese cult. Many Indian works has been published by western researchers.

 

I have mention one blogger link on moles while discussing over it in one of the

palmistry forum. You had recently joined that forum and made post on LK.

 

I have taught palmistry to few students but myself donot able to develop

interest on it and not able to grasp this subject very thoroughly. Very

contradicting :) hmmm...

 

About the 'trick you are saying' i also have knowledge on it, but i had never

verified it.

 

Medically mole is the dead skin or a bunch of hairs. So normally moles is

indicated by Saturn, but sometimes it is indicated by rahu also, you know that

Rahu is also the karak of nails as per LK.

 

As per LK person having Rahu + venus in their horoscope has the tendency to keep

long nail in their small finger. [you know Mahajanji physically verified this on

the phone with one of my client :) ]

 

----------

 

LK is the finest book which co-related palmistry with horoscope.

Shri R G Rao from Bangalore had also done very good work to co-link palmistry

and horoscope based on Nadi literature.

Some good original work on this linkage is also done by German astrologer, but

their work are only published in German language.

 

More you can easily talk with Mr. Bhandari ji.

 

---------

 

I hope we are meeting soon :), to enjoy & celebrate astrology :).

 

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

 

 

, Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vijay Goel Ji;

> I would like to mention 2 points here.

> 1. There was a young person from tanda Jallandhar. He published a book titled

Sunheri Kitab. A very small book i think it had only 60-70 pages based on

lalkitab. He dealt with the subject of moles extensively. He published part 1

only and expired in an unfortunate accident. I had the book for some years but

gave it to somebody. it is out of edition. kindly try to locate a copy from your

resources.

>

> 2. As you know it always helps a professional astrologer to tell the native

about something that only the native knows. There are few tricks of the trade.

one is related to mole/til on male organ. The astrologer sees a kundali or palm

and tells that the native that you have a til at this place. Your goodself being

a science graduate must be knowing what type of skin cells makes a til and this

tricks works in 99.5 percent cases.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

 

> vijay.goel <goyalvj

>

> Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:56 pm

> Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Ashish,

>

> Normally black mole represent Saturn, sometimes it also represent Rahu, if

bigger and irregular in size and shape with different color.

>

> Since it is present on left hand on the mount of moon so it could mean 'phobia

of water'.

>

> It also indicate Saturn and Moon relationship in the horoscope in your

horoscope.

>

> Thankyou,

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " raiaashish " <raiaashish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Namaskar Kulbirji,

> > FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal

infulence.

> >

> > Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly.

I have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this

suggest?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > South Indians are best in astrology.

> > > There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

> > > It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation /

communication with you.

> > > Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

> > > Academic pursuit is a different field.

> > > Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

> > > one is a luxury another is necessity.

> > > Regards.

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > , " raiaashish "

<raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab

experts in Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that

will help you.

> > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time

of your birth.

> > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking

etc.

> > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened

by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > >

> > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then

also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little

knowledge i have.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , aashish rai

<raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply.

My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place

is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated

in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2

possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in

1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6

months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham.

it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion

with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a

note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social

institution.

> > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It

is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise

he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to

hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son.

However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes

smoother.

> > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with

large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the

native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he

will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for

religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase.

Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect

wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such

religious personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in

young and middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results

in his bad condition in old age.

> > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains

dormant, the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he

shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native

doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t

helps or supports him.

> > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus

his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will

suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He

is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic

capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a

child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself

turns into a failure.

> > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with

him or at his place.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there

are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any

earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by

bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in./

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Sir,

Thanks for the information.

Undoubtedly Mr. Rabinder Bhandari is numero uno in this field.

 

 

 

Regards

Kulbir Bains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj

 

Sun, 10 Jan 2010 3:42 pm

Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbhir Bhaiji,

 

I will try to locate 'sunheri kitab' if someone would have it in Jaipur.

If we seriously try to locate at international publisher, we can get many books and research work on moles. This method is still used extensively by Chinese, Japanese cult. Many Indian works has been published by western researchers.

 

I have mention one blogger link on moles while discussing over it in one of the palmistry forum. You had recently joined that forum and made post on LK.

 

I have taught palmistry to few students but myself donot able to develop interest on it and not able to grasp this subject very thoroughly. Very contradicting :) hmmm...

 

About the 'trick you are saying' i also have knowledge on it, but i had never verified it.

 

Medically mole is the dead skin or a bunch of hairs. So normally moles is indicated by Saturn, but sometimes it is indicated by rahu also, you know that Rahu is also the karak of nails as per LK.

 

As per LK person having Rahu + venus in their horoscope has the tendency to keep long nail in their small finger. [you know Mahajanji physically verified this on the phone with one of my client :) ]

 

----------

 

LK is the finest book which co-related palmistry with horoscope.

Shri R G Rao from Bangalore had also done very good work to co-link palmistry and horoscope based on Nadi literature.

Some good original work on this linkage is also done by German astrologer, but their work are only published in German language.

 

More you can easily talk with Mr. Bhandari ji.

 

---------

 

I hope we are meeting soon :), to enjoy & celebrate astrology :).

 

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

, Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

>

> Dear Vijay Goel Ji;

> I would like to mention 2 points here.

> 1. There was a young person from tanda Jallandhar. He published a book titled Sunheri Kitab. A very small book i think it had only 60-70 pages based on lalkitab. He dealt with the subject of moles extensively. He published part 1 only and expired in an unfortunate accident. I had the book for some years but gave it to somebody. it is out of edition. kindly try to locate a copy from your resources.

>

> 2. As you know it always helps a professional astrologer to tell the native about something that only the native knows. There are few tricks of the trade. one is related to mole/til on male organ. The astrologer sees a kundali or palm and tells that the native that you have a til at this place. Your goodself being a science graduate must be knowing what type of skin cells makes a til and this tricks works in 99.5 percent cases.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijay.goel <goyalvj

>

> Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:56 pm

> Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Ashish,

>

> Normally black mole represent Saturn, sometimes it also represent Rahu, if bigger and irregular in size and shape with different color.

>

> Since it is present on left hand on the mount of moon so it could mean 'phobia of water'.

>

> It also indicate Saturn and Moon relationship in the horoscope in your horoscope.

>

> Thankyou,

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , "raiaashish" <raiaashish@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskar Kulbirji,

> > FYI.. Orissa is east India not south. Here astrologers have mostly Bengal infulence.

> >

> > Anyway.. I have read 1952 edition once. Going over it once again but slowly. I have a black spot in left hand in chander burj. Which planet does this suggest?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Aashish

> >

> > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > South Indians are best in astrology.

> > > There must be good astrologers in Orissa also.

> > > It is always better to consult someone who can have one to one relation / communication with you.

> > > Desh; Kaal; Patra are fundamentals of astrology techniques.

> > > Academic pursuit is a different field.

> > > Consultation and seeking guidelines is something totally different.

> > > one is a luxury another is necessity.

> > > Regards.

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > , "raiaashish" <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > Thanks for your advice. As far I know there are no true Lal Kitab experts in Orissa. If you happen to know can you please pass on the info.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Aashish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "kulbir" <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you some rules that will help you.

> > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary positions at the time of your birth.

> > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking writing walking etc.

> > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have you strengthened by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > >

> > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet personally. if then also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you with whatever little knowledge i have.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , aashish rai <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot for your reply. My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's 14/11/1965 and the place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before noon. Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04 am. the following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1st house â€" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > 2nd house â€" Vacant

> > > > > > 3rd House â€" Saturn

> > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 11th House â€" Sun

> > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > 2nd house â€" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > 3nd house â€" Vacant

> > > > > > 4th House â€" Saturn

> > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > 12th House â€" Sun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He was born in 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started learning astrology about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in life.

> > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only lead to vaham. it will be very kind of you if you could please write down the planatary posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i have written a note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of females than males.

> > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious or social institution.

> > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the nature of moon. It is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his birth otherwise he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts his fortune.

> > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage due to hankering after religious matters and this results in delay in birth of son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34 to 45 and his life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the native with large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously disciplined,

> > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially in age 25-45.

> > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards astrology

> > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars, the native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but it is not sure that he will also be at par with them. He is too much devoted towards religion.

> > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on roaming for religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be going through a bad phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to unlawful methods to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he accompanies a false guru or such religious personality. He hankers after recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age and doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in his bad condition in old age.

> > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter remains dormant, the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding himself he shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The native doesn’t gets any post with authority, his brotherhood also doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu , Saturn, venus his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak. Even his adopted son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from lung diseases such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both ends meet with difficulty.

> > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn, and in malefic capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age of 45. if he adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45 and birth of his son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad will be with him or at his place.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > >"raiaashish"< raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab - Jupiter

> > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the native or there are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in 7th and don't have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04 Am( as fixed by bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./

> > > > > >

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> > > >

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Dear Aashish ji,

 

//We should do the work without expectation of any fruit. //

 

You mean a Surgeon should do an operation without expecting the

operation to get successfull ?

 

You mean that a student should give his Exams and not expect to pass ?

 

You mean that a man should work for an whole month but should not expect

his salary in the first week of the subsequent month ?

 

Does this happen in real Life ? Is this possible ? Does anybody act in

this way without expecting results ?

 

No , this thinking is illogical, this meaning is absurd and futile..

 

Actually a person should work and leave the results of whatever has to

come - to his Destiny.

 

Actually a person should work and do not bother about the

fructifications, because they are bound to happen, and will come to him

sooner or later. The person is advised to do his duties and not expect

the positive or negative effects whatever is going to come, in his mind

and heart, because the results is mandatory to come along , once an

action has been done. So God does not ask one not to expect results, but

He says That one should continue doing his duties without worrying for

when the results would fructify or what results they would fructify

into.

 

please comment....

 

Those who have uptil now not commented, please do not comment now, and

let us continue to discuss for some time before you enter the thread and

comment on our " comments " .

 

Bhaskae.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- In , " raiaashish "

<raiaashish wrote:

>

> Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> Let me try to explain my understanding:

> //First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have

to just follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. " //

>

> This teaching of Shri Krishna from Geeta advices us to do our work and

leave the fruits to God. We should do the work without expectation of

any fruit.

>

> Intent of my question was what role Astrology/Astrologer has to play

here.

>

> Regards,

> Aashish

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > dear aashish ji,

> >

> > Good discussion is going to ensue now from your Query. I like this.

> >

> > First you please explain me the meaning-translation of " If we have

to just follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. "

> >

> > Then I will write further about what must be the stance actually to

be understood by this shloka, which people have actually misunderstood.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > , " raiaashish "

<raiaashish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > You are so brilliant and have such vast experience in astrology

and life. Please enlighten me on this confusion. If we have to just

follow " karmaney vadhika raste.. " principle then why to go to an

Astrologer or learn astrology for that matter. After all everything is

going to happen as predestined. then why bother to know anything if it

can't be changed.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Aashish

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Okay Dear Aashish,

> > > >

> > > > I accept your innocent explanations, and myself feel sorry for

having

> > > > misunderstood you.

> > > >

> > > > But tell me how is your post about " Lagna Confirmations " , going

to solve

> > > > your Problem ?

> > > >

> > > > About your son, or my son, or his son, or their sons, we are NOT

God, to

> > > > carve their destinies. This has already been carved before their

births.

> > > > Our job is only to do our duties. Leave the " worry " part to the

Lord.

> > > >

> > > > I have not earned a penny for myself for about 20 Years, but I

have

> > > > earnt lakhs of ruppees for my employer. Is that not enough ? And

my

> > > > employer was my own father. You need more informations from me

??? then

> > > > come to my place in Bombay. I will enlighten you further.

> > > >

> > > > We are such ordinary people that we cant even carve our own

destinies,

> > > > so forget about us looking or being responsible for the destiny

of our

> > > > close ones.

> > > >

> > > > As a good man, a responsible man, as a res;ponsible father, a

> > > > responsible husband, a respnsible human being, just go on doing

your

> > > > duties, work hard, and after that if pennies comes, or dollars

comes, we

> > > > are n ot to worry, that is Gods job. I know this much for sure,

that HE

> > > > DOES NOT LEAVE US HUNGRY BEFORE SLEEP, IF WE WORK HARD ENOUGH.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " raiaashish "

> > > > <raiaashish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar Bhaskarji,

> > > > > Let me first say sorry to you even if my intention was not to

cross

> > > > verify the precious gift given by you. I can't even think in my

entire

> > > > life about hurting somebody as revered as you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please cool down and try to read the first query carefully. It

was

> > > > about Jupiter in the 7th and it will be only when I take 10.04

am as

> > > > birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please try to put yourself in my shoes. A person who hasn't

earned a

> > > > single penny in last 3 years worried about his Kid's future. I

am not

> > > > worried about the money here but about the future of the kid.

> > > > >

> > > > > A leaner like me can't even dream about putting one

Astrologer(Guru)

> > > > against another.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless you mention about your forgiveness, I will assume you

have not

> > > > accpeted my apology

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Aashish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kulbir "

kulbirbains@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ashish Ji;

> > > > > > you have indeed committed a blunder;

> > > > > > be a gentleman; apologize to Bhaskar Ji;

> > > > > > it hurts when someone's hard labour which is obtained

through years

> > > > of rigorous study is treated like this.

> > > > > > the rectification of your birth time might seem to be a

freebie to

> > > > you but i know only a handful of astrologers are capable of it.

and no

> > > > money is sufficient to compensate it.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Before flitting from one astrologer to another, and asking

about

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > confirmations, first dissapprove the hard work done by

somebody on

> > > > Your

> > > > > > > Birth, and then you are welcome to ask for further info.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We must be " Men " and not " butterflies " . You are being

utterly

> > > > > > > ungrateful when you ask someone to confirm what another

has

> > > > alfready

> > > > > > > confirmed for You. prove the previous confirmation as

wrong

> > > > > > > astrologically and then talk.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The problem these days , is that whatever is received for

free,

> > > > does not

> > > > > > > have much value..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //Bhaskarji has indicated in this forum that it can be

around

> > > > 10.04

> > > > > > > > am.//

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What do You mean by " Bhaskarji has indicated " ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have not indicated. I have proved it to you that it is

right.

> > > > How

> > > > > > > > many Astrologers in india can do this for You even if

you pay

> > > > them a

> > > > > > > > Lakh of Rupees ? They cannot do it, because they are not

all

> > > > capable

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > doing this .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I ask any astrologer to dissaprove my given birth

timings .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But again they were silent when you asked in the Group

about

> > > > your

> > > > > > > Birth

> > > > > > > > time, so what right they have now to dissaprove?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please understand that You have been given the right

information

> > > > > > > coming

> > > > > > > > from accurate precesion use of astrological principles,

and any

> > > > doubts

> > > > > > > > about it, is not going to serve any purpose.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" kulbir "

> > > > > > > > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ashish ji;

> > > > > > > > > if you want lalkitab consultation, let me tell you

some rules

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > will help you.

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab analysis consists of 4 steps

> > > > > > > > > 1. study of you horoscope erected from planetary

positions at

> > > > the

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > of your birth.

> > > > > > > > > 2. study of your palm, physique, manner of talking

writing

> > > > walking

> > > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > > > > 3. study of your house.

> > > > > > > > > 3. your actions in this life time, what planets have

you

> > > > > > > strengthened

> > > > > > > > by your actions and what planets you have spoiled.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > so consult some professional whom you can meet

personally. if

> > > > then

> > > > > > > > also you have some doubts. i am always there to help you

with

> > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > little knowledge i have.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

aashish rai

> > > > > > > > raiaashish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbirji,

> > > > > > > > > > Let me first wish you a Happy New year. Thanks a lot

for

> > > > your

> > > > > > > reply.

> > > > > > > > My birth time is not recorded hence the problem. It's

14/11/1965

> > > > and

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > place is Ara/Arrah Bihar. It's after sunrise and before

noon.

> > > > > > > Bhaskarji

> > > > > > > > has indicated in this forum that it can be around 10.04

am. the

> > > > > > > > following are the 2 possibilities for lagna.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1st house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > 4th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 5th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 6th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > 7th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > 8th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > > 9th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 10th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 11th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > > > 12th House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Lal kitab kundali

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1st House- Mer, Ketu

> > > > > > > > > > 2nd house †" Mars and Venus

> > > > > > > > > > 3nd house †" Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 4th House †" Saturn

> > > > > > > > > > 5th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 6th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 7th House- Rahu

> > > > > > > > > > 8th House- Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > 9th House- Moon

> > > > > > > > > > 10th house- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 11th House- Vacant

> > > > > > > > > > 12th House †" Sun

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am the Eldest son. I have only one child(son). He

was born

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > 1996. As I am jobless from last 3 years, started

learning

> > > > astrology

> > > > > > > > about 6 months to see why I have so many failures in

life.

> > > > > > > > > > Aashish

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > > kulbir bains kulbirbains@

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Fri, 1 January, 2010 8:48:57 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Lalkitab -

Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajaashish Ji;

> > > > > > > > > > Decision taken on placement of one planet will only

lead to

> > > > vaham.

> > > > > > > > it will be very kind of you if you could please write

down the

> > > > > > > planatary

> > > > > > > > posion with degrees; also degree of ascendant;

> > > > > > > > > > as far as jupiter in 7 is concerned in isolation i

have

> > > > written a

> > > > > > > > note on it. hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in house no.7

> > > > > > > > > > 1. This position is better in the horoscope of

females than

> > > > males.

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Gets some post with authority in some religious

or social

> > > > > > > > institution.

> > > > > > > > > > 3. the natives fiscal position depends upon the

nature of

> > > > moon. It

> > > > > > > > is god for him that he retains a practical outlook.

> > > > > > > > > > 4. generally death takes place at the place of his

birth

> > > > otherwise

> > > > > > > > he is cremated at his birth place.

> > > > > > > > > > 5. journeys are fruitful for him.

> > > > > > > > > > 6. the dowry that his wife brings in marriage boosts

his

> > > > fortune.

> > > > > > > > > > 7. disrespects his duties towards house and marriage

due to

> > > > > > > > hankering after religious matters and this results in

delay in

> > > > birth

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > son. However a son is born to him in the age span of 34

to 45

> > > > and his

> > > > > > > > life becomes smoother.

> > > > > > > > > > 8. when Saturn is in house no 7 or 9 it blesses the

native

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > large family and good wealth.

> > > > > > > > > > 9. when ketu is benefic, the native is religiously

> > > > disciplined,

> > > > > > > > > > 10. when rahu is benefic, rich and just especially

in age

> > > > 25-45.

> > > > > > > > > > 11. when sun in house no 1 inclined towards

astrology

> > > > > > > > > > 12. when house no 1,2,5,9,12 have sun, moon, mars,

the

> > > > > > > > native’s ancestors are also rich and renowned but

it is

> > > > not

> > > > > > > sure

> > > > > > > > that he will also be at par with them. He is too much

devoted

> > > > towards

> > > > > > > > religion.

> > > > > > > > > > 13. mars or mercury malefic, the native keeps on

roaming for

> > > > > > > > religious discourses etc. his sister or aunt will be

going

> > > > through a

> > > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > phase. Financial condition is not sound. Can resort to

unlawful

> > > > > > > methods

> > > > > > > > to collect wealth. His condition will become worst if he

> > > > accompanies a

> > > > > > > > false guru or such religious personality. He hankers

after

> > > > > > > > recognizationin religious fields in young and middle age

and

> > > > > > > > doesn’t cares about his progeny, which results in

his bad

> > > > > > > > condition in old age.

> > > > > > > > > > 14. when house no 1 and 2 are vacant, i.e. Jupiter

remains

> > > > > > > dormant,

> > > > > > > > the native may be a gold mine for others but for feeding

himself

> > > > he

> > > > > > > > shall have to labour manually.

> > > > > > > > > > 15. when Jupiter turns malefic in this house. The

native

> > > > > > > > doesn’t gets any post with authority, his

brotherhood

> > > > also

> > > > > > > > doesn’t helps or supports him.

> > > > > > > > > > 16. when house no 1,2,5,7.9,12 have mercury, rahu ,

Saturn,

> > > > venus

> > > > > > > > his progeny suffers especially if venus becomes weak.

Even his

> > > > adopted

> > > > > > > > son will suffer. Father or grandfather will suffer from

lung

> > > > diseases

> > > > > > > > such as asthama. He is not worldly smart. Makes both

ends meet

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > difficulty.

> > > > > > > > > > 17. when house no 2,4,6,11,12 have mercury,Saturn,

and in

> > > > malefic

> > > > > > > > capacity. The native longs for birth of son till the age

of 45.

> > > > if he

> > > > > > > > adopts a child that also suffers. May stammer After 45

and birth

> > > > of

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > son, he himself turns into a failure.

> > > > > > > > > > 18. in malefic results rattis or items or mars bad

will be

> > > > with

> > > > > > > him

> > > > > > > > or at his place.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >---------- Original message ----------

> > > > > > > > > > >" raiaashish " < raiaashish (AT) (DOT) co.in >

> > > > > > > > > > >28 Dec 09 07:17:29

> > > > > > > > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Lalkitab -

Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >Kulbirji Namaskar,

> > > > > > > > > > >>Is Jupiter in 7th always bad for the sons of the

native or

> > > > there

> > > > > > > > are exceptions? I am little worried as my Jupiter is in

7th and

> > > > don't

> > > > > > > > have any earnings from last 3 years. My details are:

> > > > > > > > > > >>Don:14/11/1965, Pob: ara/arrah (bihar), tob: 10:04

Am( as

> > > > fixed

> > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > bhaskarji in this forum).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >>Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >>Aashish

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

 

> > > > > > > Homepage.

> > > > > > > > http://in./

> > > > > > > > > >

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Namaskar Bhaskarji,What you are saying is the same thing I am saying but may be it's my choice of words that is not conveying the meaning. It's "nishkam karm" as told in hindi. Everything is the way one defines "Success". After all who is going to decide what is "nishkam karma". 1. For a Student if the whole intention is to pass the exam with top marks than we will spend money for coaching/tuition to learn the tricks/methods rather than studying the subjects well. After all there are many students who make it to IIT after many attempts but struggle after getting admission. 2. Surgeon should do the operation to make it successful. But that depends on the the intention. A doctor who

is money minded will do the operation only if gets his fees. His logic is I am charging my fee. For rich patient the cost doesn't matter as long as the doctor is good but for poor On the other hand a doctor with good herat may waive off his fees and do the operation as he thinks he can save a life. 3. A person should do his job for salary. But how much salary is just who decides. You work for whole year with good intention to get a raise. But your colleague butters his boss at gets the raise without much effort. Now who is successful?Mahatma Gandhi lived on his beliefs good/bad and was one of the person instrumental in India's Freedom. But his entire family suffered hell. On the other hand Nehru was also involved but not only enjoyed his life but also generations after him are enjoying.Bhaskarji please pardon me but think for a minute if great rishis (eg. Parashara Muni) would have thought about his

success than what would have happened to astrology. This whole debate can go on for ever. In the end it's the term Success which is determined by the con since of the doer. It's all relative. My original question was where Astrology fits in this.Regards,Aashish Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sun, 10 January, 2010 11:48:26 AM Re: Lalkitab - Jupiter

 

 

 

Dear Aashish ji,

 

//We should do the work without expectation of any fruit. //

 

You mean a Surgeon should do an operation without expecting the

operation to get successfull ?

 

You mean that a student should give his Exams and not expect to pass ?

 

You mean that a man should work for an whole month but should not expect

his salary in the first week of the subsequent month ?

 

Does this happen in real Life ? Is this possible ? Does anybody act in

this way without expecting results ?

 

No , this thinking is illogical, this meaning is absurd and futile..

 

Actually a person should work and leave the results of whatever has to

come - to his Destiny.

 

Actually a person should work and do not bother about the

fructifications, because they are bound to happen, and will come to him

sooner or later. The person is advised to do his duties and not expect

the positive or negative effects whatever is going to come, in his mind

and heart, because the results is mandatory to come along , once an

action has been done. So God does not ask one not to expect results, but

He says That one should continue doing his duties without worrying for

when the results would fructify or what results they would fructify

into.

 

please comment....

 

Those who have uptil now not commented, please do not comment now, and

let us continue to discuss for some time before you enter the thread and

comment on our "comments".

 

Bhaskae.

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