Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Dear Moderators; the topic is closed as per Bhaskar Ji's reasoned observations but being duty bound i had requested Pt.BhoshanPriya Ji for help and he obliged inspite of his hectic schedule. i request you to kindly approve itVery Dear Kulbir,You did the right thing.You do not have to seek my approval to use whatever I write in any manner you want.I think that patient [born May 18, 1979, at 8:55am ; Nadiad ] will also require a couple of other upaya apart from the Durga Sapt Shati mantra.The disease seems to have occurred due to the afflicted 5th house under the aspect of Saturn [associated with rahu, poison] and mars both. This combination can cause poisoning of the blood; or cancer like disease in the 5th house region [lower abdomen].Therefore :[a] Saturn has to be cooled off to change its nature by burying deep in the mud under the water , in a river or pond , a little mustard oil filled in an earthen pot. Cement the lid so that the oil doesn’t spill out into the water. Bury the pot at such a place where it stays under water the whole year round. Do not bring back home the digging tool. The nature of Mars too has to be changed by placing it in a temple through offering sweets at any Hanuman temple for 4 days regularly.[c] For Rahu the chandra ka upaya is suggested laterSince the Jatak is going through Jup/sat/jup dasha, and Jupiter is markesh, therefore till March next year it could be a very critical period. Since Jupiter and Moon, both markesh, are associated , hence upaya for both of them too has to be done.Jupiter:[a] In order to neutralize the markesh effect of Jupiter the jatak should apply kesar tilak between eye brows every day. He should keep on his person some thing his father had used, like his watch, ring or chain etc. This will amount to the blessings of his father all the time.Moon :[a] Placed in the 8th, therefore he should bring home a little water from a well or a hand pump situated inside a Cremation ground or a cemetery in a brass container. The water collected from a municipal tap will not be acceptable for the upaya. The source of water should be from inside the cemetery.Keep this container, with 4 small square pieces of silver immersed in the water, in the North East corner of your house. Keep the lid on so that the water doesn’t evaporate fast. He should also wear either in a gold chain or a white silk thread a small piece of silver cut off from any old silver ornament worn by his mother. Mother’s blessings will always be with him. This will cool off the rahu also.Once this crucial jup/sat/jup period is over and the jatak survives this period ,then the upaya can be suggested later for Jup/merc dasha.With lots of love,Bhooshan Priya , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Dear members; i don't know much about this topic but Mr. Suresh Upadhaya/ pt. Bhooshan Priya has written on this subject topic. i am copy pasting , hope it reaches the patient and helps,-> > Goddess Durga killed a demon known as Raktabeej. Cancer is also known> as raktabeej.> >> > Therefore praying to Goddess Durga alone can help.> >> > the patient should recite the following siddha mantra from Durga Sapt shati as many times a day as you can every day according to the instructions given.> >> > roga naasha ke liye> > [ to eliminate personal illness ]> >> > rogaanasheShaanapahaMsi tuShTaa> > ruShTaa tu kaamaan.h sakalaanabhiiShTaan.h |> > tvaamaashritaanaaM na vipannaraaNaaM> > tvaamaashritaa hyaashrayataaM prayaanti ||> >> > Go to the group files and read this mantra in Hindi script from the> Durga Sapt Shati siddha mantra file. This will help you pronounce it> correctly.> >> > Sit on a mat or some thing, do not sit on the bare ground. Keep a> little water in any bowl with a tulsi leaf in it before reciting this> mantra. When you have finished reciting the mantra you should breathe> over [ fook marana ] the bowl and drink that water and eat the tulsi> leaf. In case you do not find Tulsi leaf, then you can do without it,> just keep the bowl of water though.> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@> wrote:> >> > Dear ones,> > I am posting birth data of a CANCER patient which was posted by mistake> > in another group since> > > > it's addressed to our group's esteemed members/moderators which i am> > pasting below.> > //Hello Bhaskerji, Neelamji, Uttaraji ,manojji,kulbirji and all> > astrolger and leares modaratars and> > > > readers and friends> > jay shrikrishna> > I would Request all of your> > A boy of 30 years suffering of cansar he is in critical condition> > brought to canada> > name jignesh DOB 18th may 1979 T B 08.55 am pb NADIAD GUJARAT> > wife Hetal 14th jan 1979 23.20 > > nadiad gujarat> > son 27th jan 2007> > canada ontario> > can antbody help for his life by any remadies or pooja archana. please> > humble request for saving> > > > life> > wish you a health wealthy prosperous new year 2010 and get good> > discusions on these groop get> > > > success> > god bless you> > > > jay shri chrismus> > gurudev datt> > from ramesh joshi//----> > Tese are my random observations.> > 6thL in MT in naks of ketu with mer1,4 and ven5,12> > cancer sign is with an exal maraka in mutual asp with its lord in> > 8th(gaja kesari!!) also a> > > > maraka.!!!...> > L/L(natal) in 12(hospital) and 6L in 8th debilitatated in D12 in CANCER> > sign in> > > > D12(health/hospitalisation) is the confirmation and beauty of Dcharts.> > Jup-sat dasa till 19-3-10> > Jup as already mentioned is maraka exal in a maraka 2nd H and also aspd> > by 6L of disease and> > > > sat in an enemy sign with its dispositor in 12th H of loss/hospital....> > i have also observed cancer sign's importance in cancer cases in many a> > chart.> > there are no changes in Bhava/Chalit is to be noted.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> >> , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Dear members; i don't know much about this topic but Mr. Suresh Upadhaya/ pt. Bhooshan Priya has written on this subject topic. i am copy pasting , hope it reaches the patient and helps,-> > Goddess Durga killed a demon known as Raktabeej. Cancer is also known> as raktabeej.> >> > Therefore praying to Goddess Durga alone can help.> >> > the patient should recite the following siddha mantra from Durga Sapt shati as many times a day as you can every day according to the instructions given.> >> > roga naasha ke liye> > [ to eliminate personal illness ]> >> > rogaanasheShaanapahaMsi tuShTaa> > ruShTaa tu kaamaan.h sakalaanabhiiShTaan.h |> > tvaamaashritaanaaM na vipannaraaNaaM> > tvaamaashritaa hyaashrayataaM prayaanti ||> >> > Go to the group files and read this mantra in Hindi script from the> Durga Sapt Shati siddha mantra file. This will help you pronounce it> correctly.> >> > Sit on a mat or some thing, do not sit on the bare ground. Keep a> little water in any bowl with a tulsi leaf in it before reciting this> mantra. When you have finished reciting the mantra you should breathe> over [ fook marana ] the bowl and drink that water and eat the tulsi> leaf. In case you do not find Tulsi leaf, then you can do without it,> just keep the bowl of water though.> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> > , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear ones,> > I am posting birth data of a CANCER patient which was posted by mistake> > in another group since> > > > it's addressed to our group's esteemed members/moderators which i am> > pasting below.> > //Hello Bhaskerji, Neelamji, Uttaraji ,manojji,kulbirji and all> > astrolger and leares modaratars and> > > > readers and friends> > jay shrikrishna> > I would Request all of your> > A boy of 30 years suffering of cansar he is in critical condition> > brought to canada> > name jignesh DOB 18th may 1979 T B 08.55 am pb NADIAD GUJARAT> > wife Hetal 14th jan 1979 23.20 > > nadiad gujarat> > son 27th jan 2007> > canada ontario> > can antbody help for his life by any remadies or pooja archana. please> > humble request for saving> > > > life> > wish you a health wealthy prosperous new year 2010 and get good> > discusions on these groop get> > > > success> > god bless you> > > > jay shri chrismus> > gurudev datt> > from ramesh joshi//----> > Tese are my random observations.> > 6thL in MT in naks of ketu with mer1,4 and ven5,12> > cancer sign is with an exal maraka in mutual asp with its lord in> > 8th(gaja kesari!!) also a> > > > maraka.!!!...> > L/L(natal) in 12(hospital) and 6L in 8th debilitatated in D12 in CANCER> > sign in> > > > D12(health/hospitalisation) is the confirmation and beauty of Dcharts.> > Jup-sat dasa till 19-3-10> > Jup as already mentioned is maraka exal in a maraka 2nd H and also aspd> > by 6L of disease and> > > > sat in an enemy sign with its dispositor in 12th H of loss/hospital....> > i have also observed cancer sign's importance in cancer cases in many a> > chart.> > there are no changes in Bhava/Chalit is to be noted.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Bhaskar ji,I never meant i would like to explain it or provide remedies to people. Its just for study. I felt others also feel the same way. At my end I would like to collect as much as data i can on any topic to draw some inferences. regards,SoniaBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, 2 January, 2010 8:30:20 PM Re: CANCER The technicals of Astrological causes for Cancer have been already inferred by Experts in this Field. we can add no further to it. Neither by way of explanations, nor by way of remedies. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > Hello to all the members of this group. I have recently joined this group. I read most of the topics/messages. Many cases of cancer have been posted by the members. I think after studying at least 50 such cases can we draw some inferences. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sat, 2 January, 2010 6:57:03 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: CANCER > > > > What is this all going on here ???? > > Why must we be speaking so much on Cancer which is a reality, and a > harsh one at that, but a subject which does not make one comfortable in > discussing.. . I have 3 cases of Cancer patients in my own close family > relations, but dont speak about it for obvious reasons... > > Unless someone is a medical Astrologer here, what inputs cane one Offer > ? > And how can we save a Cancer patient through aids of Astrology ? > > Please stop these discussions for heavens sake.. > > This is reality, but scary please. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 These are very good upayes. Thank You for trying to help a aggrieved person. regards/Bhaskar. , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Dear Moderators; the topic is closed as per Bhaskar Ji's reasoned > observations but being duty bound i had requested Pt.BhoshanPriya Ji for > help and he obliged inspite of his hectic schedule. i request you to > kindly approve it > > Very Dear Kulbir, > > You did the right thing. > > You do not have to seek my approval to use whatever I write in any > manner you want. > > I think that patient [born May 18, 1979, at 8:55am ; Nadiad ] will also > require a couple of other upaya apart from the Durga Sapt Shati mantra. > > The disease seems to have occurred due to the afflicted 5th house under > the aspect of Saturn [associated with rahu, poison] and mars both. This > combination can cause poisoning of the blood; or cancer like disease in > the 5th house region [lower abdomen]. > > Therefore : > > [a] Saturn has to be cooled off to change its nature by burying deep in > the mud under the water , in a river or pond , a little mustard oil > filled in an earthen pot. Cement the lid so that the oil > doesn’t spill out into the water. Bury the pot at such a > place where it stays under water the whole year round. Do not bring back > home the digging tool. > > The nature of Mars too has to be changed by placing it in a temple > through offering sweets at any Hanuman temple for 4 days regularly. > > [c] For Rahu the chandra ka upaya is suggested later > > Since the Jatak is going through Jup/sat/jup dasha, and Jupiter is > markesh, therefore till March next year it could be a very critical > period. Since Jupiter and Moon, both markesh, are associated , hence > upaya for both of them too has to be done. > > Jupiter: > > [a] In order to neutralize the markesh effect of Jupiter the jatak > should apply kesar tilak between eye brows every day. > He should keep on his person some thing his father had used, like > his watch, ring or chain etc. This will amount to the blessings of his > father all the time. > > Moon : > > [a] Placed in the 8th, therefore he should bring home a little water > from a well or a hand pump situated inside a Cremation ground or a > cemetery in a brass container. The water collected from a municipal tap > will not be acceptable for the upaya. The source of water should be from > inside the cemetery. > Keep this container, with 4 small square pieces of silver immersed in > the water, in the North East corner of your house. Keep the lid on so > that the water doesn’t evaporate fast. > > He should also wear either in a gold chain or a white silk thread a > small piece of silver cut off from any old silver ornament worn by his > mother. Mother’s blessings will always be with him. This > will cool off the rahu also. > > > Once this crucial jup/sat/jup period is over and the jatak survives this > period ,then the upaya can be suggested later for Jup/merc dasha. > > With lots of love, > > Bhooshan Priya > > , " kulbir " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear members; i don't know much about this topic but Mr. Suresh > Upadhaya/ pt. Bhooshan Priya has written on this subject topic. i am > copy pasting , hope it reaches the patient and helps,- > > > > Goddess Durga killed a demon known as Raktabeej. Cancer is also known > > as raktabeej. > > > > > > Therefore praying to Goddess Durga alone can help. > > > > > > the patient should recite the following siddha mantra from Durga > Sapt shati as many times a day as you can every day according to the > instructions given. > > > > > > roga naasha ke liye > > > [ to eliminate personal illness ] > > > > > > rogaanasheShaanapahaMsi tuShTaa > > > ruShTaa tu kaamaan.h sakalaanabhiiShTaan.h | > > > tvaamaashritaanaaM na vipannaraaNaaM > > > tvaamaashritaa hyaashrayataaM prayaanti || > > > > > > Go to the group files and read this mantra in Hindi script from the > > Durga Sapt Shati siddha mantra file. This will help you pronounce it > > correctly. > > > > > > Sit on a mat or some thing, do not sit on the bare ground. Keep a > > little water in any bowl with a tulsi leaf in it before reciting this > > mantra. When you have finished reciting the mantra you should breathe > > over [ fook marana ] the bowl and drink that water and eat the tulsi > > leaf. In case you do not find Tulsi leaf, then you can do without it, > > just keep the bowl of water though. > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ones, > > > I am posting birth data of a CANCER patient which was posted by > mistake > > > in another group since > > > > > > it's addressed to our group's esteemed members/moderators which i am > > > pasting below. > > > //Hello Bhaskerji, Neelamji, Uttaraji ,manojji,kulbirji and all > > > astrolger and leares modaratars and > > > > > > readers and friends > > > jay shrikrishna > > > I would Request all of your > > > A boy of 30 years suffering of cansar he is in critical condition > > > brought to canada > > > name jignesh DOB 18th may 1979 T B 08.55 am pb NADIAD GUJARAT > > > wife Hetal 14th jan 1979 23.20 > > > nadiad gujarat > > > son 27th jan 2007 > > > canada ontario > > > can antbody help for his life by any remadies or pooja archana. > please > > > humble request for saving > > > > > > life > > > wish you a health wealthy prosperous new year 2010 and get good > > > discusions on these groop get > > > > > > success > > > god bless you > > > > > > jay shri chrismus > > > gurudev datt > > > from ramesh joshi//---- > > > Tese are my random observations. > > > 6thL in MT in naks of ketu with mer1,4 and ven5,12 > > > cancer sign is with an exal maraka in mutual asp with its lord in > > > 8th(gaja kesari!!) also a > > > > > > maraka.!!!... > > > L/L(natal) in 12(hospital) and 6L in 8th debilitatated in D12 in > CANCER > > > sign in > > > > > > D12(health/hospitalisation) is the confirmation and beauty of > Dcharts. > > > Jup-sat dasa till 19-3-10 > > > Jup as already mentioned is maraka exal in a maraka 2nd H and also > aspd > > > by 6L of disease and > > > > > > sat in an enemy sign with its dispositor in 12th H of > loss/hospital.... > > > i have also observed cancer sign's importance in cancer cases in > many a > > > chart. > > > there are no changes in Bhava/Chalit is to be noted. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > > , " kulbir " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Dear members; i don't know much about this topic but Mr. Suresh > Upadhaya/ pt. Bhooshan Priya has written on this subject topic. i am > copy pasting , hope it reaches the patient and helps,- > > > > Goddess Durga killed a demon known as Raktabeej. Cancer is also known > > as raktabeej. > > > > > > Therefore praying to Goddess Durga alone can help. > > > > > > the patient should recite the following siddha mantra from Durga > Sapt shati as many times a day as you can every day according to the > instructions given. > > > > > > roga naasha ke liye > > > [ to eliminate personal illness ] > > > > > > rogaanasheShaanapahaMsi tuShTaa > > > ruShTaa tu kaamaan.h sakalaanabhiiShTaan.h | > > > tvaamaashritaanaaM na vipannaraaNaaM > > > tvaamaashritaa hyaashrayataaM prayaanti || > > > > > > Go to the group files and read this mantra in Hindi script from the > > Durga Sapt Shati siddha mantra file. This will help you pronounce it > > correctly. > > > > > > Sit on a mat or some thing, do not sit on the bare ground. Keep a > > little water in any bowl with a tulsi leaf in it before reciting this > > mantra. When you have finished reciting the mantra you should breathe > > over [ fook marana ] the bowl and drink that water and eat the tulsi > > leaf. In case you do not find Tulsi leaf, then you can do without it, > > just keep the bowl of water though. > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear ones, > > > I am posting birth data of a CANCER patient which was posted by > mistake > > > in another group since > > > > > > it's addressed to our group's esteemed members/moderators which i am > > > pasting below. > > > //Hello Bhaskerji, Neelamji, Uttaraji ,manojji,kulbirji and all > > > astrolger and leares modaratars and > > > > > > readers and friends > > > jay shrikrishna > > > I would Request all of your > > > A boy of 30 years suffering of cansar he is in critical condition > > > brought to canada > > > name jignesh DOB 18th may 1979 T B 08.55 am pb NADIAD GUJARAT > > > wife Hetal 14th jan 1979 23.20 > > > nadiad gujarat > > > son 27th jan 2007 > > > canada ontario > > > can antbody help for his life by any remadies or pooja archana. > please > > > humble request for saving > > > > > > life > > > wish you a health wealthy prosperous new year 2010 and get good > > > discusions on these groop get > > > > > > success > > > god bless you > > > > > > jay shri chrismus > > > gurudev datt > > > from ramesh joshi//---- > > > Tese are my random observations. > > > 6thL in MT in naks of ketu with mer1,4 and ven5,12 > > > cancer sign is with an exal maraka in mutual asp with its lord in > > > 8th(gaja kesari!!) also a > > > > > > maraka.!!!... > > > L/L(natal) in 12(hospital) and 6L in 8th debilitatated in D12 in > CANCER > > > sign in > > > > > > D12(health/hospitalisation) is the confirmation and beauty of > Dcharts. > > > Jup-sat dasa till 19-3-10 > > > Jup as already mentioned is maraka exal in a maraka 2nd H and also > aspd > > > by 6L of disease and > > > > > > sat in an enemy sign with its dispositor in 12th H of > loss/hospital.... > > > i have also observed cancer sign's importance in cancer cases in > many a > > > chart. > > > there are no changes in Bhava/Chalit is to be noted. > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dear Neelam ji,thank you very much for your scientific/astro(logical) thoughts......Warm regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Gopi ji and all,> > //Cancer sign has got a lot to do with cancer//> > In biology, APOPTOSIS is the term used for a programmed cellular death,> which is (or should be) an inherent feature of individual cells. In the> absence of apoptosis, the cells forget to die and the condition is called> CANCER or malignant cells have also been called immature cells, as in> reversing their aging process somehow.> > Since these cells do not know how to die, they keep dividing or multiplying.> In their quest for immortality, they kill the host (body) upon which they> are dependent for their life.> > But without death there can be no life. Each moment the body-mind is dying> and creating something new. Something has to die for something new to> emerge, and for our soul to take quantum leaps of creativity, one must never> forget to die.> > How the *individual* (cell, man, earth…) becomes prolific and creative, i.e.> YOUNG again and alive in dying? Same injection of morphine serves a dual> purpose! Both a saver and a killer! It is how one deals with the poison or> the toxins (in modern medicine). And in sign CANCER it is decided how much> is enough! That's why perhaps the karaka for growth and expansion exalts> here, but must be well aspected so that it behaves!> > The nomenclature for the Zodiac Cancer and the disease Cancer, was perhaps> done independent of each other. But a thought strikes! Wasn't Hippocrates an> ASTRO-DOC of those times! There could be a common cankerous (as in latin)> origin of the word! Hippocrates must've compared the crabby appendages in> the cancer mass of the body as well as the zodiac! Common shape and> appearance… in the microcosm and macrocosm! There seems to be a relationship> of sign cancer and the disease cancer.> > As the Cancer cells reverse their life energy, so does the SUN in heavens,> when IN CANCER! And Devatas go on for their divine siesta, leaving the> cankerous earth to proliferate and procreate (the fertile months)!> Then there is our Tropic of Cancer, where the WORD tropos, meaning TURN,> referring to sun which *turns back*. Both Vishwanath and MAHAKAAL set up his> throne here? May be, the key to healthy growth and timely death lies in> CANCER!> > Just some thoughts to ponder over!> > Regards> Neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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