Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dear All, Now onwards all the mails by Devi Singh ji will appear as is, since his name is included into the UNMODERATED members list.Love and regards,Sreenadh , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:>> Dear gopal krishna Ji,> > Thanks for your sharing......> > However i do not believe 1-5-9 to be considered as dharma trikone for > all chart,as it is correct as presentation for Kalpurush chart.> I do believe that All below system/concept/method/techniques/tools are > facilitated for study but fundamental is something else which triggers > for Astrologer to come up with such tools.> --Ascedence calculation> --Bhav chalit/cusp> --Sensitive points/deeptamsa> > However till my study i have got that just looking 'Degree of All > Planets' may be enough for some sage.> --this is essence for all> --no rashi requires (i do not mean they are useless they are required > for another system)> --it has a very good background foundation of 'tara chakar' and related > theory more convincing> --this seems mother for all systems e.g.western,lalkitab,chinise etc> --any many more> > ------------------> Regards,> Devisingh> > gopal krishna goel wrote:> > > >> > Dear Devi Singh ji,> > With A view to answer following query :> >> > "Just one question.....what are your thoughts related to Dharma > > Trikona when Ascendant Degree gets changed.......lets say Ascendant > > point occupy first pada of Bharni or second pad of Aswini??"> >> >> > I will first make a brief comment on house division,> > which is specifically applicable when a nativity is judged based on > > Varga charts:> >> > "Maharishi Parasara has precisely explained this concept to his > > disciple Maitraye in chapter 3, slokas 4, 5 and 6 of BPHS:> >> > "Those, celestial bodies are called the planets (Grahas) that move > > through the Nakshatras (or asterisms) along the Zodiac (Bhachakra). > > The Zodiac comprises of 27 asterisms from Aswin to Revati and also > > devided in 12 equal parts known as signs (Rashis) from Aries to > > Pisces. */The Zodiac sign which contains the rising (ascending)/ > > /point at the time of Birth is called Lagna (ascendant)"./ Based o*n > > the ascendant and the planets joining and separating from each other, > > the native's good and bad fortune is deducted".> >> > /Parasara has given the concept of Bhavas (houses) along with 12 signs > > in the above narration. This is called the compartmental system of > > houses. In this, system the/ /whole sign in which the degree of > > ascendant falls is considered the first house and subsequent sign as > > 2^nd house and so on. The longitude of the ascending point becomes the > > most sensitive points of the ascendant i.e.1^st house,/ /and the > > sensitive points of other house will be 30//°// apart/. /The > > sensitive/ /point of 10^th house will fall in 10^th sign from > > ascending sign and will have the same/ /longitude as that of the > > ascending point in Lagna*.*/* In this system M.C. is not considered* > > *as the Mid-point or cusp of 10^th house. M.C. is however given > > prime-importance due to it and is widely used for many other important > > p**urposes * The above mentioned Hindu (Vedic) Method, > > advocated by Sage Parasara, seems to be more rational and worthy of > > being followed in all astrological calculations particularly in the > > casting of a nativity. This method has universal applicability. In > > this system either the longitudinal duration or mid-point / cuspal > > degree of houses does not get distorted at higher latitudes.> >> > > >> > Parasara continued to narrate the description of the planets, signs, > > various Kinds of ascendants, up-Grahas and importance of Deeptamsa of > > 15° on either side of sensitive-point of ascendant and other houses > > etc. (Deeptamsa means an effective Zone of 15° on either side of the > > sensitive-point of ascendant ,or sensitive points of other houses).> >> > > >> > In shloka 7 of chapter 3 of BPHS ,Sage Parasara says:> > *> > " The nature and use of Nakshatra be understood from vast literature > > (already available in Samihta Grantha) while I narrate about the use > > and effects of planets and signs"> > *> >> > * *> >> > In the above back ground I will try to answer your question :> >> > Ist,5th and 9th houses are called Dharma trine and also Signs Aries, > > Leo and Sagittarius> >> > Now whenever , ascending point or a planet is in any Nakshata > > pada.,will give certain> >> > effects which can only be ascertained from Samita Grantha. Generally > > ,this is not the> >> > subject matter of Hora shastra.> >> > Main Birth (sign ) and Navamsa charts are complementary to each > > other.In birth chart> >> > Ascendant , 5th and 9th houses forms the Dharma Trikona.> >> > If we are considering Nakshatra pada , we will have to take the help > > of D-9 chart.> >> > Dharma padas of all the Nakshatras will fall in trine to each other > > and so will be the case> >> > of other nakshatra padas.If ascending point is falling in say Aswani > > 2nd pada or Bharni> >> > 1st pada , the difference of effects can more easily be seen in > > Navamsa chart.> >> > Navansa chart has a dual purpose as it also act as important varga chart.> >> > Navamsa also represent Dharma , married life , spouse, sex partners > > and as well as* SKILLS *> >> > (Which are acquired in this life by self efforts). ( The in- born > > natural skills are seen> >> > from D-7 chart).> > I hope I am able to answer your question.> >> > Regards,> >> > > >> > *G. K. Goel*> > > >> >> >> > ------> > > > devisingh.rajput > Tue, 5 Jan 2010 20:02:23 +0530> > Re: Re: Nodes> >> > > > Dear Gopal Krishna JI,> >> > A very nice piece of information i got from your post really very good > > one......> >> > Just one question.....what are your thoughts related to Dharma Trikona > > when Ascendant Degree gets changed.......lets say Ascendant point > > occupy first pada of Bharni or second pad of Aswini??> >> > ------------------> > Regards,> > Devisingh> >> > gopal krishna goel wrote:> >> > > > Dear Vijay Goyal,> > You have made following observation:> >> > *> > [Vijay] NOT AT ALL, D-9 Is NOT based on Nakshatra division.> > technically it looks same due to 'same value division'.*> >> >> > I feel your comment is not fully appropriate. Basically Nakshatra> > Mandal is permanently> > located in the Sky.Signs are vizulised along the Ecliptic. In fact> > , Sidereal signs> > Commences from initial point of Aswani . Each Nakshatra has 4 pada> > and belong> > to Dharma , Artha , Kama and Moksha in this order.> > It is interesting to note that 1st ,5th and 9th Signs contain 3> > dharma pada and> > two each of other pada. This is the reason , this is called Dharma> > Trikona.> > Similarly , other three trines are named.> > Further more , in sign chakra , 9 Nakshatra's are get divided and> > occupy two signs.> > Where as in Navamsa and Dreshkana divisions , Nakshatra pada do> > not get divided.> > In Shad Bala calculations, the auspiciousness of six Vargas is> > measured on the scale> > of 20 , and weightage is given at a ratio of D-1 (6) ,D-9 (5) and> > D-3 (4) i.e. 15> > out of 20.The remaining six points are allocated to D-2,D-12 and> > D-30 charts.> >> > If a planet is in same pada of any Nakshatra , they fall in trine> > to each other in> > Navamsa chart. This provide great help in timing of the events.> > No doubt , Navamsa division has many different and independent > > uses also, but> > probably its prime importance lies on account of nakshatra padas.> > Regards,> > G.K.GOEL> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------> > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.> > <http://windows.microsoft.com/shop>> >> >> >> >> > ------> > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop Find the right PC for you. > > <Windows%207:%20Simplify%20what%20you%20do%20everyday.>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dear Sreenadh ji, Thanks....will take care... ------------------ Regards, Devisingh sreesog wrote: Dear All, Now onwards all the mails by Devi Singh ji will appear as is, since his name is included into the UNMODERATED members list. Love and regards, Sreenadh , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear gopal krishna Ji, > > Thanks for your sharing...... > > However i do not believe 1-5-9 to be considered as dharma trikone for > all chart,as it is correct as presentation for Kalpurush chart. > I do believe that All below system/concept/method/techniques/tools are > facilitated for study but fundamental is something else which triggers > for Astrologer to come up with such tools. > --Ascedence calculation > --Bhav chalit/cusp > --Sensitive points/deeptamsa > > However till my study i have got that just looking 'Degree of All > Planets' may be enough for some sage. > --this is essence for all > --no rashi requires (i do not mean they are useless they are required > for another system) > --it has a very good background foundation of 'tara chakar' and related > theory more convincing > --this seems mother for all systems e.g.western,lalkitab,chinise etc > --any many more > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > gopal krishna goel wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > With A view to answer following query : > > > > "Just one question.....what are your thoughts related to Dharma > > Trikona when Ascendant Degree gets changed.......lets say Ascendant > > point occupy first pada of Bharni or second pad of Aswini??" > > > > > > I will first make a brief comment on house division, > > which is specifically applicable when a nativity is judged based on > > Varga charts: > > > > "Maharishi Parasara has precisely explained this concept to his > > disciple Maitraye in chapter 3, slokas 4, 5 and 6 of BPHS: > > > > "Those, celestial bodies are called the planets (Grahas) that move > > through the Nakshatras (or asterisms) along the Zodiac (Bhachakra). > > The Zodiac comprises of 27 asterisms from Aswin to Revati and also > > devided in 12 equal parts known as signs (Rashis) from Aries to > > Pisces. */The Zodiac sign which contains the rising (ascending)/ > > /point at the time of Birth is called Lagna (ascendant)"./ Based o*n > > the ascendant and the planets joining and separating from each other, > > the native's good and bad fortune is deducted". > > > > /Parasara has given the concept of Bhavas (houses) along with 12 signs > > in the above narration. This is called the compartmental system of > > houses. In this, system the/ /whole sign in which the degree of > > ascendant falls is considered the first house and subsequent sign as > > 2^nd house and so on. The longitude of the ascending point becomes the > > most sensitive points of the ascendant i.e.1^st house,/ /and the > > sensitive points of other house will be 30//°// apart/. /The > > sensitive/ /point of 10^th house will fall in 10^th sign from > > ascending sign and will have the same/ /longitude as that of the > > ascending point in Lagna*.*/* In this system M.C. is not considered* > > *as the Mid-point or cusp of 10^th house. M.C. is however given > > prime-importance due to it and is widely used for many other important > > p**urposes * The above mentioned Hindu (Vedic) Method, > > advocated by Sage Parasara, seems to be more rational and worthy of > > being followed in all astrological calculations particularly in the > > casting of a nativity. This method has universal applicability. In > > this system either the longitudinal duration or mid-point / cuspal > > degree of houses does not get distorted at higher latitudes. > > > > > > > > Parasara continued to narrate the description of the planets, signs, > > various Kinds of ascendants, up-Grahas and importance of Deeptamsa of > > 15° on either side of sensitive-point of ascendant and other houses > > etc. (Deeptamsa means an effective Zone of 15° on either side of the > > sensitive-point of ascendant ,or sensitive points of other houses). > > > > > > > > In shloka 7 of chapter 3 of BPHS ,Sage Parasara says: > > * > > " The nature and use of Nakshatra be understood from vast literature > > (already available in Samihta Grantha) while I narrate about the use > > and effects of planets and signs" > > * > > > > * * > > > > In the above back ground I will try to answer your question : > > > > Ist,5th and 9th houses are called Dharma trine and also Signs Aries, > > Leo and Sagittarius > > > > Now whenever , ascending point or a planet is in any Nakshata > > pada.,will give certain > > > > effects which can only be ascertained from Samita Grantha. Generally > > ,this is not the > > > > subject matter of Hora shastra. > > > > Main Birth (sign ) and Navamsa charts are complementary to each > > other.In birth chart > > > > Ascendant , 5th and 9th houses forms the Dharma Trikona. > > > > If we are considering Nakshatra pada , we will have to take the help > > of D-9 chart. > > > > Dharma padas of all the Nakshatras will fall in trine to each other > > and so will be the case > > > > of other nakshatra padas.If ascending point is falling in say Aswani > > 2nd pada or Bharni > > > > 1st pada , the difference of effects can more easily be seen in > > Navamsa chart. > > > > Navansa chart has a dual purpose as it also act as important varga chart. > > > > Navamsa also represent Dharma , married life , spouse, sex partners > > and as well as* SKILLS * > > > > (Which are acquired in this life by self efforts). ( The in- born > > natural skills are seen > > > > from D-7 chart). > > I hope I am able to answer your question. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > *G. K. Goel* > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > devisingh.rajput > > Tue, 5 Jan 2010 20:02:23 +0530 > > Re: Re: Nodes > > > > > > Dear Gopal Krishna JI, > > > > A very nice piece of information i got from your post really very good > > one...... > > > > Just one question.....what are your thoughts related to Dharma Trikona > > when Ascendant Degree gets changed.......lets say Ascendant point > > occupy first pada of Bharni or second pad of Aswini?? > > > > ------------------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > gopal krishna goel wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goyal, > > You have made following observation: > > > > *> > [Vijay] NOT AT ALL, D-9 Is NOT based on Nakshatra division. > > technically it looks same due to 'same value division'.* > > > > > > I feel your comment is not fully appropriate. Basically Nakshatra > > Mandal is permanently > > located in the Sky.Signs are vizulised along the Ecliptic. In fact > > , Sidereal signs > > Commences from initial point of Aswani . Each Nakshatra has 4 pada > > and belong > > to Dharma , Artha , Kama and Moksha in this order. > > It is interesting to note that 1st ,5th and 9th Signs contain 3 > > dharma pada and > > two each of other pada. This is the reason , this is called Dharma > > Trikona. > > Similarly , other three trines are named. > > Further more , in sign chakra , 9 Nakshatra's are get divided and > > occupy two signs. > > Where as in Navamsa and Dreshkana divisions , Nakshatra pada do > > not get divided. > > In Shad Bala calculations, the auspiciousness of six Vargas is > > measured on the scale > > of 20 , and weightage is given at a ratio of D-1 (6) ,D-9 (5) and > > D-3 (4) i.e. 15 > > out of 20.The remaining six points are allocated to D-2,D-12 and > > D-30 charts. > > > > If a planet is in same pada of any Nakshatra , they fall in trine > > to each other in > > Navamsa chart. This provide great help in timing of the events. > > No doubt , Navamsa division has many different and independent > > uses also, but > > probably its prime importance lies on account of nakshatra padas. > > Regards, > > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. > > <http://windows.microsoft.com/shop> > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop Find the right PC for you. > > <Windows%207:%20Simplify%20what%20you%20do%20everyday.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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