How much can husband chart affect wife life or vice versa?

January 15, 2010

Dear Members,

I was recently going through an article that talked of influence of husband's

chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a question came to my

mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the marriage related

issues better.

regds

Dev

January 16, 2010

Dear Dev Ji,The spouses effect each other fully.In husbands gets a particular person as his wife or Visa verse , as this is provided in respective nativities. Is there any choice?The only question is 'how 'but extent is fullRegards,G. K. Goel

From: axeplexDate: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000 How much can husband chart affect wife life or vice versa?

Dear Members,

I was recently going through an article that talked of influence of husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a question came to my mind "How much influece can a spouse chart make?".

If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the marriage related issues better.

regds

Dev

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January 16, 2010

Goel ji,

This is the only question of debate.

If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry that one

individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse chart? It has to

follow its own promises under the bad influences of spouse chart. Question is

how much bad it can play against and at what stage it gives up its own promises.

regds

Dev

, gopal krishna goel

<g.k.goel wrote:

>

> Dear Dev Ji,

> The spouses effect each other fully.

> In husbands gets a particular person as his

> wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> Regards,

>

> G. K. Goel

>

> axeplex

> Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> How much can husband chart affect wife

life or vice versa?

>

Dear Members,

>

> I was recently going through an article that talked of influence of husband's

chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a question came to my

mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

>

> If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the marriage related

issues better.

>

> regds

>

> Dev

>

_______________

> Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Axeplex Ji,

It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let me make it

more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feel first we need to

DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wife charts influences on

each other etc etc..

What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?

Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Making etc

etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the same Queries

(i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive measures i.e. seeking

Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Making before Marriage, We

still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriages in real life senario(s) let

us keep aside those charts/people who have not Matched their Horos and now are

in a really Horror situtaion!:-)

And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologer in my

native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him the same above

question What is Marriage actually mean?

His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) to anybody (of

course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it is called Marriage..

Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count my Wives!!! and

the numbers are getting close to 10. and still counting!!:-)

Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experienced Astrologers/members

out there... I am also keen to know about the questions that you have raised..

Regards

Chandu2Chill

, " axeplex " <axeplex wrote:

Goel ji,

This is the only question of debate.

If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry that one

individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse chart? It has to

follow its own promises under the bad influences of spouse chart. Question is

how much bad it can play against and at what stage it gives up its own promises.

regds

Dev

> , gopal krishna goel

<g.k.goel@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dev Ji,

> > The spouses effect each other fully.

> > In husbands gets a particular person as his

> > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> > Regards,

> >

> > G. K. Goel

> >

> > axeplex@

> > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> > How much can husband chart affect wife

life or vice versa?

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I was recently going through an article that talked of influence of

husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a question

came to my mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

> >

> > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the marriage related

issues better.

> >

> > regds

> >

> > Dev

> >

> > _______________

> > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Chandu 2 chill and all,

Astrologically " marriage " means a legal marriage and not just having sex

with 20-30 women....

A " legal " marriage means either in a Church in case of catholics, but

also in witness of near and dear ones, relatives, friends and a Pundit

who does a marriage for Hindus.

A 'live in relationship " cannot constitute " marriage " .

Now destiny part...

If you have been promised " good longevity " by your horoscope , so should

you not work for your food ? Okay since we have a longevity promised it

means that we will live somehow or the other till the destined age, but

do we all not work ?

In same manner whether we have a wife destined or not from the heavens,

we still try to make a choice in selecting a spouse. Dont we ? and

sometimes we can make mistakes too in such choices. Which is where

astrology comes in the picture. So that the incidence of mistake is

dissolved when making a choice. One may argue that whether one goes to

an astrologer or not what is destined will come to him. Yes thats true,

but we have been given " buddhi " and " free choice " to some extent by God

to either work in line with destiny and improve the positive effects if

so shown by our Horoscope, or spoil the same again with " naveen Karma " .

In case one has to endure a evil spouse, this much choice is again given

to a native that he can choose less evil ones from the choices available

to him or her.. But this is true that a person destined to have a good

spouse will attract good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, and

vice versa for bad destiny. We can either tend to flow with the tide or

go against it...but wherever we are destined to be thrown by the tide,

it will throw us there only....

Remember that " Destiny " has been written for us already, but efforts and

hard work cannot be substituted by relying on destiny..

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " CP " <nanna_id2006

wrote:

>

> Dear Axeplex Ji,

>

> It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let me

make it more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feel

first we need to DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wife

charts influences on each other etc etc..

>

> What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?

>

> Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Making

etc etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the same

Queries (i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive measures

i.e. seeking Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Making

before Marriage, We still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriages

in real life senario(s) let us keep aside those charts/people who have

not Matched their Horos and now are in a really Horror situtaion!:-)

>

> And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologer

in my native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him the

same above question What is Marriage actually mean?

>

> His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) to

anybody (of course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it is

called Marriage..

>

> Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count my

Wives!!! and the numbers are getting close to 10. and still

counting!!:-)

>

> Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experienced

Astrologers/members out there... I am also keen to know about the

questions that you have raised..

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> , " axeplex " axeplex@

wrote:

>

> Goel ji,

> This is the only question of debate.

> If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry

that one individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse

chart? It has to follow its own promises under the bad influences of

spouse chart. Question is how much bad it can play against and at what

stage it gives up its own promises.

>

> regds

> Dev

>

> > , gopal krishna goel

<g.k.goel@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dev Ji,

> > > The spouses effect each other fully.

> > > In husbands gets a particular person as his

> > > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> > > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> > > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > G. K. Goel

> > >

> > > axeplex@

> > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> > > How much can husband chart

affect wife life or vice versa?

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > I was recently going through an article that talked of influence

of husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a

question came to my mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

> > >

> > > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the

marriage related issues better.

> > >

> > > regds

> > >

> > > Dev

> > >

> > > _______________

> > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

> > >

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Bhaskar ji and All,

There are eight types of marriage described in the ancient Hindushastra (Manusmriti "Manava Dharma Shastra":

Rite of Brahmana (Brahma) - where the father of the bride invites a man learned in the Vedas and a good conduct, and gives his daughter in marriage to him after decking her with jewels and costly garments.

Rite of the Gods (Daiva) - where the daughter is groomed with ornaments and given to a priest who duly officiates at a sacrifice during the course of its performance of this rite.

Rite of the Rishis (Arsha) - when the father gives away his daughter after receiving a cow and a bull from the brightgroom.

Rite of the Prajapati - (Prajapatya) where the father gives away his daugher after blessing the couple with the text "May both of you perform together your duties"

Rite of the Asuras (Demons) - when the bridegroom receives a maiden after bestowing wealth to the kinsmen and to the bride according to his own will.

Rite of the Gandharva - the voluntary union of a maiden and her lover, which arises from desire and sexual intercourse for its purpose.

Rite of the Rakshasa - forcible abduction of a maiden from her home after her kinsmen have been slain or wounded and their houses broken open.

Rite of the Pisaka - when a man by stealth seduces a girl who is sleeping or intoxicated or is mentally disbalanced or handicapped

So A 'live in relationship" is Gandharva Vivha or"marriage".

Regards

pooja singh--- On Sat, 16/1/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: How much can husband chart affect wife life or vice versa? Date: Saturday, 16 January, 2010, 1:08 AM

Dear Chandu 2 chill and all,Astrologically "marriage" means a legal marriage and not just having sexwith 20-30 women....A "legal"marriage means either in a Church in case of catholics, butalso in witness of near and dear ones, relatives, friends and a Punditwho does a marriage for Hindus.A 'live in relationship" cannot constitute "marriage".Now destiny part...If you have been promised "good longevity" by your horoscope , so shouldyou not work for your food ? Okay since we have a longevity promised itmeans that we will live somehow or the other till the destined age, butdo we all not work ?In same manner whether we have a wife destined or not from the heavens,we still try to make a choice in selecting a spouse. Dont we ? andsometimes we can make mistakes too in such choices. Which is whereastrology comes in the picture. So that the incidence of mistake

isdissolved when making a choice. One may argue that whether one goes toan astrologer or not what is destined will come to him. Yes thats true,but we have been given "buddhi" and "free choice" to some extent by Godto either work in line with destiny and improve the positive effects ifso shown by our Horoscope, or spoil the same again with "naveen Karma".In case one has to endure a evil spouse, this much choice is again givento a native that he can choose less evil ones from the choices availableto him or her.. But this is true that a person destined to have a goodspouse will attract good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, andvice versa for bad destiny. We can either tend to flow with the tide orgo against it...but wherever we are destined to be thrown by the tide,it will throw us there only....Remember that "Destiny" has been written for us already, but efforts andhard work cannot be

substituted by relying on destiny..regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP" <nanna_id2006@ ...>wrote:>> Dear Axeplex Ji,>> It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let memake it more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feelfirst we need to DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wifecharts influences on each other etc etc..>> What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?>> Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Makingetc etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the sameQueries (i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive

measuresi.e. seeking Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Makingbefore Marriage, We still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriagesin real life senario(s) let us keep aside those charts/people who havenot Matched their Horos and now are in a really Horror situtaion!:- )>> And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologerin my native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him thesame above question What is Marriage actually mean?>> His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) toanybody (of course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it iscalled Marriage..>> Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count myWives!!! and the numbers are getting close to 10. and stillcounting!!:- )>> Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experiencedAstrologers/ members

out there... I am also keen to know about thequestions that you have raised..>> Regards>> Chandu2Chill>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" axeplex@wrote:>> Goel ji,> This is the only question of debate.> If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marrythat one individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spousechart? It has to follow its own promises under the bad influences ofspouse chart. Question is how much bad it can play against and at whatstage it gives up its own promises.>> regds> Dev>> > ancient_indian_ astrology, gopal krishna goel<g.k.goel@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Dev Ji,> > > The spouses effect each other fully.> > > In husbands gets a particular person as his> > > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided> > > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?> > > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full> > > Regards,> > >> > > G. K. Goel> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > axeplex@> > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] How much can husband chartaffect wife life or vice versa?> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > >> > >> > >> > > I was recently going through an article that

talked of influenceof husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and aquestion came to my mind "How much influece can a spouse chart make?".> > >> > > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of themarriage related issues better.> > >> > >> > >> > > regds> > >> > > Dev> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.> > > http://windows. microsoft. com/shop> > >> >>

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January 16, 2010

Dear Bhaskar ji,

While your comments are welcome and explained nicely, I shall request to

concentrate on my question also. Let us say one has done his Karma nicely in

selecting the best wife, put all his efforts in life, his chart shows sufferings

and his wife chart shows five star luxury or vice versa. What shall be affect of

suffering on luxury and vice versa.

regds

Dev

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Chandu 2 chill and all,

>

> Astrologically " marriage " means a legal marriage and not just having sex

> with 20-30 women....

>

> A " legal " marriage means either in a Church in case of catholics, but

> also in witness of near and dear ones, relatives, friends and a Pundit

> who does a marriage for Hindus.

>

> A 'live in relationship " cannot constitute " marriage " .

>

> Now destiny part...

>

> If you have been promised " good longevity " by your horoscope , so should

> you not work for your food ? Okay since we have a longevity promised it

> means that we will live somehow or the other till the destined age, but

> do we all not work ?

>

> In same manner whether we have a wife destined or not from the heavens,

> we still try to make a choice in selecting a spouse. Dont we ? and

> sometimes we can make mistakes too in such choices. Which is where

> astrology comes in the picture. So that the incidence of mistake is

> dissolved when making a choice. One may argue that whether one goes to

> an astrologer or not what is destined will come to him. Yes thats true,

> but we have been given " buddhi " and " free choice " to some extent by God

> to either work in line with destiny and improve the positive effects if

> so shown by our Horoscope, or spoil the same again with " naveen Karma " .

> In case one has to endure a evil spouse, this much choice is again given

> to a native that he can choose less evil ones from the choices available

> to him or her.. But this is true that a person destined to have a good

> spouse will attract good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, and

> vice versa for bad destiny. We can either tend to flow with the tide or

> go against it...but wherever we are destined to be thrown by the tide,

> it will throw us there only....

>

> Remember that " Destiny " has been written for us already, but efforts and

> hard work cannot be substituted by relying on destiny..

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Axeplex Ji,

> >

> > It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let me

> make it more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feel

> first we need to DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wife

> charts influences on each other etc etc..

> >

> > What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?

> >

> > Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Making

> etc etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the same

> Queries (i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive measures

> i.e. seeking Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Making

> before Marriage, We still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriages

> in real life senario(s) let us keep aside those charts/people who have

> not Matched their Horos and now are in a really Horror situtaion!:-)

> >

> > And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologer

> in my native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him the

> same above question What is Marriage actually mean?

> >

> > His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) to

> anybody (of course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it is

> called Marriage..

> >

> > Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count my

> Wives!!! and the numbers are getting close to 10. and still

> counting!!:-)

> >

> > Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experienced

> Astrologers/members out there... I am also keen to know about the

> questions that you have raised..

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > , " axeplex " axeplex@

> wrote:

> >

> > Goel ji,

> > This is the only question of debate.

> > If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry

> that one individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse

> chart? It has to follow its own promises under the bad influences of

> spouse chart. Question is how much bad it can play against and at what

> stage it gives up its own promises.

> >

> > regds

> > Dev

> >

> > > , gopal krishna goel

> <g.k.goel@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dev Ji,

> > > > The spouses effect each other fully.

> > > > In husbands gets a particular person as his

> > > > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> > > > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> > > > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > G. K. Goel

> > > >

> > > > axeplex@

> > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> > > > How much can husband chart

> affect wife life or vice versa?

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I was recently going through an article that talked of influence

> of husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a

> question came to my mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

> > > >

> > > > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the

> marriage related issues better.

> > > >

> > > > regds

> > > >

> > > > Dev

> > > >

> > > > _______________

> > > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> > > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Dev sahab,

//Let us say one has done his Karma nicely in selecting the best wife, put all

his efforts in life, his chart shows sufferings and his wife chart shows five

star luxury //

Why cannot be this possible ? the wife may get a business magnate as a husband

and enjoy 5 star Luxury, but she also may become a drunkard, Club going, card

playing , smoking and a high society ...ch.

she may have many friends , and may also enjoy swap parties...

The husband may not like this as he had chosen a good wife as per his

understanding but now it becomes too late to turn the clock round..and being

from a good educated high profile family he may have to drink the posion

everyday and remain unable to anything about it.

Why is the above not possible ? ( I personally know such people and more than

one or two).

See people who may be good today, it does not take much time for them to change

in due course of time.. I know women who could not even enter the room where

someone would be drinking and today they hold glasses in their hands and make

drinks for people like us.. This is the bane of moving in so called high

society. Time can do anything to anybody.. A man may choose a " gaon ki bholi

bhaali " who may not remain so " bholi bhaali " if you see her after few years. So

never " expect " . Root cause of all suffering in this world is due to

" expectations " .

Thus a person may marry a good lady supposed to be, but she may not remain good,

if the man is doomed to have a evil or devious partner.

// and vice versa.//

in same manner suppose a lady is destined to have a good and wealthy husband but

due to her being from a lower class strata,also gets to marry a lower positioned

person, who earns also very neagre salary, but it may so happen, that due to

some change in circumstances, the husband may change is profession after few

years, or get a big breakthrough in his current profession, which may lead him

to become one of the very wealthy people in the area. Have we not heard of one

naami (famous) shop in Chandni chowk opposite ghantaghar, gurudwara in old delhi

who has many branches today all over , and even in gurgaon. Did that person not

start with one shop ? Do we not know of Panwallahs in due course coming to own 5

shops in a area. Do we not know about some Doodhwala opening a chain of mithai

shops in due course. I also know of one hairsaloon in new delhi where i have

visited earlier 25 years back, which has become a big Beauty parlour now and the

son of the beauty parlour is also a actor in the hindi film industry. I know

many such cases in bombay too, and so must be you knowing.

Jisko joh milna hai wahi milega, chahe kisi bhi tarah se..isliye better hai ki

log astrologers se sahi ray lekar proper guidance se aage badhe shuru se hi,

taaki rukaavate kam ho raaste mein. One cannot fight with his destiny. so better

to know and walk on the path which destiny wants us to, or else we will be

thrown off forcefully if we walk on the other.

regards,

bhaskar.

, " axeplex " <axeplex wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> While your comments are welcome and explained nicely, I shall request to

concentrate on my question also. Let us say one has done his Karma nicely in

selecting the best wife, put all his efforts in life, his chart shows sufferings

and his wife chart shows five star luxury or vice versa. What shall be affect of

suffering on luxury and vice versa.

>

> regds

> Dev

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandu 2 chill and all,

> >

> > Astrologically " marriage " means a legal marriage and not just having sex

> > with 20-30 women....

> >

> > A " legal " marriage means either in a Church in case of catholics, but

> > also in witness of near and dear ones, relatives, friends and a Pundit

> > who does a marriage for Hindus.

> >

> > A 'live in relationship " cannot constitute " marriage " .

> >

> > Now destiny part...

> >

> > If you have been promised " good longevity " by your horoscope , so should

> > you not work for your food ? Okay since we have a longevity promised it

> > means that we will live somehow or the other till the destined age, but

> > do we all not work ?

> >

> > In same manner whether we have a wife destined or not from the heavens,

> > we still try to make a choice in selecting a spouse. Dont we ? and

> > sometimes we can make mistakes too in such choices. Which is where

> > astrology comes in the picture. So that the incidence of mistake is

> > dissolved when making a choice. One may argue that whether one goes to

> > an astrologer or not what is destined will come to him. Yes thats true,

> > but we have been given " buddhi " and " free choice " to some extent by God

> > to either work in line with destiny and improve the positive effects if

> > so shown by our Horoscope, or spoil the same again with " naveen Karma " .

> > In case one has to endure a evil spouse, this much choice is again given

> > to a native that he can choose less evil ones from the choices available

> > to him or her.. But this is true that a person destined to have a good

> > spouse will attract good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, and

> > vice versa for bad destiny. We can either tend to flow with the tide or

> > go against it...but wherever we are destined to be thrown by the tide,

> > it will throw us there only....

> >

> > Remember that " Destiny " has been written for us already, but efforts and

> > hard work cannot be substituted by relying on destiny..

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Axeplex Ji,

> > >

> > > It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let me

> > make it more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feel

> > first we need to DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wife

> > charts influences on each other etc etc..

> > >

> > > What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?

> > >

> > > Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Making

> > etc etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the same

> > Queries (i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive measures

> > i.e. seeking Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Making

> > before Marriage, We still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriages

> > in real life senario(s) let us keep aside those charts/people who have

> > not Matched their Horos and now are in a really Horror situtaion!:-)

> > >

> > > And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologer

> > in my native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him the

> > same above question What is Marriage actually mean?

> > >

> > > His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) to

> > anybody (of course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it is

> > called Marriage..

> > >

> > > Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count my

> > Wives!!! and the numbers are getting close to 10. and still

> > counting!!:-)

> > >

> > > Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experienced

> > Astrologers/members out there... I am also keen to know about the

> > questions that you have raised..

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chandu2Chill

> > >

> > > , " axeplex " axeplex@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Goel ji,

> > > This is the only question of debate.

> > > If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry

> > that one individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse

> > chart? It has to follow its own promises under the bad influences of

> > spouse chart. Question is how much bad it can play against and at what

> > stage it gives up its own promises.

> > >

> > > regds

> > > Dev

> > >

> > > > , gopal krishna goel

> > <g.k.goel@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Dev Ji,

> > > > > The spouses effect each other fully.

> > > > > In husbands gets a particular person as his

> > > > > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> > > > > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> > > > > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > G. K. Goel

> > > > >

> > > > > axeplex@

> > > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> > > > > How much can husband chart

> > affect wife life or vice versa?

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was recently going through an article that talked of influence

> > of husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a

> > question came to my mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

> > > > >

> > > > > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the

> > marriage related issues better.

> > > > >

> > > > > regds

> > > > >

> > > > > Dev

> > > > >

> > > > > _______________

> > > > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> > > > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji,

Thank you so much for your nicely made comments with sharing the knowledge of

essence of life which certainly makes sense.. I must also thank you for your

prvious valuable responses and some good replies on my other threads as well.

//But this is true that a person destined to have a good spouse will attract

good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, and vice versa for bad

destiny.//

This is really very nice comment rather i would call it a HINT for future

would-be Bride and Bridegroom seekers in fact i am personally observing this in

my family and friends circle it is very true perhaps 50% destiny shall be seen

in this phase (i.e. search period)only..

With regards

Chandu2Chill

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Chandu 2 chill and all,

>

> Astrologically " marriage " means a legal marriage and not just having sex

> with 20-30 women....

>

> A " legal " marriage means either in a Church in case of catholics, but

> also in witness of near and dear ones, relatives, friends and a Pundit

> who does a marriage for Hindus.

>

> A 'live in relationship " cannot constitute " marriage " .

>

> Now destiny part...

If you have been promised " good longevity " by your horoscope , so should you not

work for your food ? Okay since we have a longevity promised it eans that we

will live somehow or the other till the destined age, but o we all not work ?

In same manner whether we have a wife destined or not from the heavens, the

still try to make a choice in selecting a spouse. Dont we ? and sometimes we can

make mistakes too in such choices. Which is where astrology comes in the

picture. So that the incidence of mistake is dissolved when making a choice. One

may argue that whether one goes to an astrologer or not what is destined will

come to him. Yes thats true, but we have been given " buddhi " and " free choice "

to some extent by God to either work in line with destiny and improve the

positive effects if so shown by our Horoscope, or spoil the same again with

" naveen Karma " .

In case one has to endure a evil spouse, this much choice is again given to a

native that he can choose less evil ones from the choices available to him or

her.. But this is true that a person destined to have a good spouse will attract

good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, and vice versa for bad destiny.

We can either tend to flow with the tide or go against it...but wherever we are

destined to be thrown by the tide, it will throw us there only....

Remember that " Destiny " has been written for us already, but efforts and hard

work cannot be substituted by relying on destiny..

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

wrote:

Dear Axeplex Ji,

> >

> > It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let me

> make it more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feel

> first we need to DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wife

> charts influences on each other etc etc..

> >

> > What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?

> >

> > Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Making

> etc etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the same

> Queries (i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive measures

> i.e. seeking Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Making

> before Marriage, We still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriages

> in real life senario(s) let us keep aside those charts/people who have

> not Matched their Horos and now are in a really Horror situtaion!:-)

> >

> > And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologer

> in my native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him the

> same above question What is Marriage actually mean?

> >

> > His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) to

> anybody (of course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it is

> called Marriage..

> >

> > Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count my

> Wives!!! and the numbers are getting close to 10. and still

> counting!!:-)

> >

> > Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experienced

> Astrologers/members out there... I am also keen to know about the

> questions that you have raised..

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > , " axeplex " axeplex@

> wrote:

> >

> > Goel ji,

> > This is the only question of debate.

> > If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry

> that one individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse

> chart? It has to follow its own promises under the bad influences of

> spouse chart. Question is how much bad it can play against and at what

> stage it gives up its own promises.

> >

> > regds

> > Dev

> >

> > > , gopal krishna goel

> <g.k.goel@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Dev Ji,

> > > > The spouses effect each other fully.

> > > > In husbands gets a particular person as his

> > > > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> > > > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> > > > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > G. K. Goel

> > > >

> > > > axeplex@

> > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> > > > How much can husband chart

> affect wife life or vice versa?

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > I was recently going through an article that talked of influence

> of husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a

> question came to my mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

> > > >

> > > > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the

> marriage related issues better.

> > > >

> > > > regds

> > > >

> > > > Dev

> > > >

> > > > _______________

> > > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> > > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Bhaskar Ji,

//Jisko joh milna hai wahi milega, chahe kisi bhi tarah se..isliye //

I think it is like this: *Jo Aaya Woh Apna Hai Jo Rahagaya Woh Sapna Hai* (Sapna

= Dream Not the Girl's name Bhaskar ji:-))

I must stop now before the Moderater's Danda start beeming;-)

Regards

Chandu2Chill

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

Dear Dev sahab,

//Let us say one has done his Karma nicely in selecting the best wife, put all

his efforts in life, his chart shows sufferings and his wife chart shows five

star luxury //

Why cannot be this possible ? the wife may get a business magnate as a husband

and enjoy 5 star Luxury, but she also may become a drunkard, Club going, card

playing , smoking and a high society ...ch.

she may have many friends , and may also enjoy swap parties...

The husband may not like this as he had chosen a good wife as per his

understanding but now it becomes too late to turn the clock round..and being

from a good educated high profile family he may have to drink the posion

everyday and remain unable to anything about it.

Why is the above not possible ? ( I personally know such people and more than

one or two).

>

> See people who may be good today, it does not take much time for them to

change in due course of time.. I know women who could not even enter the room

where someone would be drinking and today they hold glasses in their hands and

make drinks for people like us.. This is the bane of moving in so called high

society. Time can do anything to anybody.. A man may choose a " gaon ki bholi

bhaali " who may not remain so " bholi bhaali " if you see her after few years. So

never " expect " . Root cause of all suffering in this world is due to

" expectations " .

>

> Thus a person may marry a good lady supposed to be, but she may not remain

good, if the man is doomed to have a evil or devious partner.

>

> // and vice versa.//

>

> in same manner suppose a lady is destined to have a good and wealthy husband

but due to her being from a lower class strata,also gets to marry a lower

positioned person, who earns also very neagre salary, but it may so happen, that

due to some change in circumstances, the husband may change is profession after

few years, or get a big breakthrough in his current profession, which may lead

him to become one of the very wealthy people in the area. Have we not heard of

one naami (famous) shop in Chandni chowk opposite ghantaghar, gurudwara in old

delhi who has many branches today all over , and even in gurgaon. Did that

person not start with one shop ? Do we not know of Panwallahs in due course

coming to own 5 shops in a area. Do we not know about some Doodhwala opening a

chain of mithai shops in due course. I also know of one hairsaloon in new delhi

where i have visited earlier 25 years back, which has become a big Beauty

parlour now and the son of the beauty parlour is also a actor in the hindi film

industry. I know many such cases in bombay too, and so must be you knowing.

>

Jisko joh milna hai wahi milega, chahe kisi bhi tarah se..isliye better hai ki

log astrologers se sahi ray lekar proper guidance se aage badhe shuru se hi,

taaki rukaavate kam ho raaste mein. One cannot fight with his destiny. so better

to know and walk on the path which destiny wants us to, or else we will be

thrown off forcefully if we walk on the other.

>

> regards,

> bhaskar.

>

> , " axeplex " <axeplex@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > While your comments are welcome and explained nicely, I shall request to

concentrate on my question also. Let us say one has done his Karma nicely in

selecting the best wife, put all his efforts in life, his chart shows sufferings

and his wife chart shows five star luxury or vice versa. What shall be affect of

suffering on luxury and vice versa.

> >

> > regds

> > Dev

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandu 2 chill and all,

> > >

> > > Astrologically " marriage " means a legal marriage and not just having sex

> > > with 20-30 women....

> > >

> > > A " legal " marriage means either in a Church in case of catholics, but

> > > also in witness of near and dear ones, relatives, friends and a Pundit

> > > who does a marriage for Hindus.

> > >

> > > A 'live in relationship " cannot constitute " marriage " .

> > >

> > > Now destiny part...

> > >

> > > If you have been promised " good longevity " by your horoscope , so should

> > > you not work for your food ? Okay since we have a longevity promised it

> > > means that we will live somehow or the other till the destined age, but

> > > do we all not work ?

> > >

> > > In same manner whether we have a wife destined or not from the heavens,

> > > we still try to make a choice in selecting a spouse. Dont we ? and

> > > sometimes we can make mistakes too in such choices. Which is where

> > > astrology comes in the picture. So that the incidence of mistake is

> > > dissolved when making a choice. One may argue that whether one goes to

> > > an astrologer or not what is destined will come to him. Yes thats true,

> > > but we have been given " buddhi " and " free choice " to some extent by God

> > > to either work in line with destiny and improve the positive effects if

> > > so shown by our Horoscope, or spoil the same again with " naveen Karma " .

> > > In case one has to endure a evil spouse, this much choice is again given

> > > to a native that he can choose less evil ones from the choices available

> > > to him or her.. But this is true that a person destined to have a good

> > > spouse will attract good Horoscopes of prospective brides or Grooms, and

> > > vice versa for bad destiny. We can either tend to flow with the tide or

> > > go against it...but wherever we are destined to be thrown by the tide,

> > > it will throw us there only....

> > >

> > > Remember that " Destiny " has been written for us already, but efforts and

> > > hard work cannot be substituted by relying on destiny..

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Axeplex Ji,

> > > >

> > > > It seems your question/s are little COMPLEX:-) though valid!. let me

> > > make it more complex. But as far as i see i think and strongly feel

> > > first we need to DEFINE MARRIAGE before we start looking at Husband/Wife

> > > charts influences on each other etc etc..

> > > >

> > > > What is Marriage according to Astrological Term?

> > > >

> > > > Astrology and Astrologers deals extenssively on Marriage, Match Making

> > > etc etc..on a daily basis and we see Astro fourms are full with the same

> > > Queries (i.e. Marriage and Marriage related) Despite preventive measures

> > > i.e. seeking Astrologer's guidance and advise on particuler Match Making

> > > before Marriage, We still have many cases of failed/troubled Marriages

> > > in real life senario(s) let us keep aside those charts/people who have

> > > not Matched their Horos and now are in a really Horror situtaion!:-)

> > > >

> > > > And in my personal intraction with one of our local Senior Astrologer

> > > in my native place after discussing my Married life Mess i asked him the

> > > same above question What is Marriage actually mean?

> > > >

> > > > His answer was: If you give Tann (Body) Mann (Mind) Dhan (Money) to

> > > anybody (of course he was referring to the opposit sex!:-)) then it is

> > > called Marriage..

> > > >

> > > > Then i told him Sir, if i go by your logic then i have to count my

> > > Wives!!! and the numbers are getting close to 10. and still

> > > counting!!:-)

> > > >

> > > > Ok On a serious note let's hear from our senior, experienced

> > > Astrologers/members out there... I am also keen to know about the

> > > questions that you have raised..

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Chandu2Chill

> > > >

> > > > , " axeplex " axeplex@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Goel ji,

> > > > This is the only question of debate.

> > > > If marriages are made in heaven and an individual is destined to marry

> > > that one individual, then how can a chart be fully affected by spouse

> > > chart? It has to follow its own promises under the bad influences of

> > > spouse chart. Question is how much bad it can play against and at what

> > > stage it gives up its own promises.

> > > >

> > > > regds

> > > > Dev

> > > >

> > > > > , gopal krishna goel

> > > <g.k.goel@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Dev Ji,

> > > > > > The spouses effect each other fully.

> > > > > > In husbands gets a particular person as his

> > > > > > wife or Visa verse , as this is provided

> > > > > > in respective nativities. Is there any choice?

> > > > > > The only question is 'how 'but extent is full

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G. K. Goel

> > > > > >

> > > > > > axeplex@

> > > > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:37:08 +0000

> > > > > > How much can husband chart

> > > affect wife life or vice versa?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was recently going through an article that talked of influence

> > > of husband's chart on wife sufferings. I am thinking on this line and a

> > > question came to my mind " How much influece can a spouse chart make? " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If we get the right answer, we can even resolve some of the

> > > marriage related issues better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regds

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _______________

> > > > > > Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more.

> > > > > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Most of the Moderators are busy in other groups. so they must not use their

rights to use their danda on us now....we are at least writing something over

here...

And sorry my mails are too long....

main aisa hi soon.. Joh karta hoon dil se karta hoon....

Doston se pyaar kiya dushmanon se badla liya, joh bhi kiya hamne kiya Shaan

se.....

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " CP " <nanna_id2006 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> //Jisko joh milna hai wahi milega, chahe kisi bhi tarah se..isliye //

>

> I think it is like this: *Jo Aaya Woh Apna Hai Jo Rahagaya Woh Sapna Hai*

(Sapna = Dream Not the Girl's name Bhaskar ji:-))

>

> I must stop now before the Moderater's Danda start beeming;-)

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> Dear Dev sahab,

>

> //Let us say one has done his Karma nicely in selecting the best wife, put all

his efforts in life, his chart shows sufferings and his wife chart shows five

star luxury //

>

> Why cannot be this possible ? the wife may get a business magnate as a husband

and enjoy 5 star Luxury, but she also may become a drunkard, Club going, card

playing , smoking and a high society ...ch.

> she may have many friends , and may also enjoy swap parties...

> The husband may not like this as he had chosen a good wife as per his

understanding but now it becomes too late to turn the clock round..and being

from a good educated high profile family he may have to drink the posion

everyday and remain unable to anything about it.

>

> Why is the above not possible ? ( I personally know such people and more than

one or two).

> >

> > See people who may be good today, it does not take much time for them to

change in due course of time.. I know women who could not even enter the room

where someone would be drinking and today they hold glasses in their hands and

make drinks for people like us.. This is the bane of moving in so called high

society. Time can do anything to anybody.. A man may choose a " gaon ki bholi

bhaali " who may not remain so " bholi bhaali " if you see her after few years. So

never " expect " . Root cause of all suffering in this world is due to

" expectations " .

> >

> > Thus a person may marry a good lady supposed to be, but she may not remain

good, if the man is doomed to have a evil or devious partner.

> >

> > // and vice versa.//

> >

> > in same manner suppose a lady is destined to have a good and wealthy husband