Amsa Parivartana

January 16, 2010

Dear All,

We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa

previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm

regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found

bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA.

Here are the details: MALE Native

Natal Chart

May 25, 1988

Time: 8:25:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 "

Chennai, India

Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha

Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)

Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)

Native's question:

//I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars

is involved and is in seventh house.

Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//

With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL +

4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor

do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11)

lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some

bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native

either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would

appreciate all your comments and observations..

There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional

significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is

LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc.

Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa?

How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the

events in this case?

Kindly share....

Regards

Chandu2Chill

January 16, 2010

Dear Chandu ji,Can we jump over the natal chart and land on to navamsha? With Rahu dasha just starting and Rahu strong in 3H with 5L Mars and 7L with Venus in 7H, how would the native stay away from marriage?

What is this 'SHOULD' about? Can any astrologer scare a young man away from marriage? When all the prevailing discords and high divorce rates... and of course OSHO could not!RegardsNeelam

2010/1/16 CP <nanna_id2006

Dear All,

We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA.

Here are the details: MALE Native

Natal Chart

May 25, 1988

Time: 8:25:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 "

Chennai, India

Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha

Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)

Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)

Native's question:

//I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house.

Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//

With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations..

There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc.

Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa?

How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the events in this case?

Kindly share....

Regards

Chandu2Chill

January 16, 2010

Dear Chandru ji,

First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but can only show problems

after marriage and if this parivartana is triggered, that problem also resolves

somehow. In fact, I think there shall be marriage in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas

Dasa.

regds

Dev

, " CP " <nanna_id2006 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa

previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm

regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found

bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA.

>

> Here are the details: MALE Native

> Natal Chart

>

> May 25, 1988

> Time: 8:25:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 "

> Chennai, India

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha

> Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)

>

> Native's question:

>

> //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars

is involved and is in seventh house.

>

> Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//

>

> With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL

+ 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage

nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house

(2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have

some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native

either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would

appreciate all your comments and observations..

>

> There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional

significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is

LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc.

>

> Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in

Navamsa?

>

> How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the

events in this case?

>

> Kindly share....

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Neelam ji,nice to see your post after long.I also agree with you in this regard.I was about to write on these lines and your post appeared!!Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Chandu ji,> > Can we jump over the natal chart and land on to navamsha?> With Rahu dasha just starting and Rahu strong in 3H with 5L Mars and 7L with> Venus in 7H, how would the native stay away from marriage?> > What is this 'SHOULD' about? Can any astrologer scare a young man away from> marriage? When all the prevailing discords and high divorce rates... and of> course OSHO could not!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2010/1/16 CP nanna_id2006 > >> >> > Dear All,> >> > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and> > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from> > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9> > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members> > out there in AIA.> >> > Here are the details: MALE Native> > Natal Chart> >> > May 25, 1988> > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> > Chennai, India> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> >> > Native's question:> >> > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which> > mars is involved and is in seventh house.> >> > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//> >> > With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup> > (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the> > Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying> > house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly> > should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married> > life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and> > delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations..> >> > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional> > significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup> > is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc.> >> > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in> > Navamsa?> >> > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting> > the events in this case?> >> > Kindly share....> >> > Regards> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> >> > > >>

January 16, 2010

Thanks Gopi ji. I had been a little busy and missed the group too. We have discussed several times that vargas cannot override what natal chart promises. Vargas can only provide different shades and colours at appropriate moments.

RegardsNeelam2010/1/16 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

Dear Neelam ji,nice to see your post after long.I also agree with you in this regard.I was about to write on these lines and your post appeared!!Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>> Dear Chandu ji,> > Can we jump over the natal chart and land on to navamsha?> With Rahu dasha just starting and Rahu strong in 3H with 5L Mars and 7L with> Venus in 7H, how would the native stay away from marriage?

> > What is this 'SHOULD' about? Can any astrologer scare a young man away from> marriage? When all the prevailing discords and high divorce rates... and of> course OSHO could not!>

> Regards> Neelam> > > 2010/1/16 CP nanna_id2006 > >> >> > Dear All,> >> > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and

> > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from> > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9> > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members

> > out there in AIA.> >> > Here are the details: MALE Native> > Natal Chart> >> > May 25, 1988> > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > Chennai, India> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> >> > Native's question:> >> > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which> > mars is involved and is in seventh house.

> >> > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//> >> > With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup> > (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the

> > Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying> > house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly> > should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married

> > life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and> > delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations..> >> > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional

> > significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup> > is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc.> >> > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in

> > Navamsa?> >> > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting> > the events in this case?> >> > Kindly share....> >> > Regards

> >> > Chandu2Chill> >> >> > > >>

January 16, 2010

Dear Chandu ji,// How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the

events in this case?//i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for any event.If we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should certainly look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know.7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual asp with Sat 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat is the lord of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he could have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and 4th lord as well.....Love and regards,gopi.// , "axeplex" <axeplex wrote:>> Dear Chandru ji,> > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but can only show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is triggered, that problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall be marriage in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > regds> Dev> > , "CP" nanna_id2006@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA.> > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > Natal Chart> > > > May 25, 1988> > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> > Chennai, India> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > > > Native's question:> > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//> > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations..> > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc. > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa? > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the events in this case?> > > > Kindly share....> > > > Regards> > > > Chandu2Chill> >>

January 16, 2010

In fact, Ra-Ra-Me makes a very strong yoga for marriage. Nodal axis on lagna, Saturn and Jupiter both aspecting 7H and 7L as well as Navamsha lagna. very difficult to escape! :-)RegardsNeelam

2010/1/16 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

Dear Chandu ji,// How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the

events in this case?//i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for any event.If we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should certainly look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know.

7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual asp with Sat 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat is the lord of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he could have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and 4th lord as well.....

Love and regards,gopi.// , " axeplex " <axeplex wrote:

>> Dear Chandru ji,> > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but can only show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is triggered, that problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall be marriage in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.

> > regds> Dev> > , " CP " nanna_id2006@ wrote:> >

> > Dear All,> > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA.

> > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > Natal Chart> > > > May 25, 1988> > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > Chennai, India> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > > > Native's question:> > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house.

> > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//> > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations..

> > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc.

> > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa? > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the events in this case?

> > > > Kindly share....> > > > Regards> > > > Chandu2Chill> >>

January 16, 2010

Dear Gopiji,

While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this group lot on " We

shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly people use it. If you say

love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are saying all people born in

that ASC window shall have love marriage. Where is then use of Divisions?

regds

Dev

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Dear Chandu ji,

> // How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and

> predicting the

> events in this case?//

> i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for any event.If

> we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should certainly

> look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know.

> 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual asp with Sat

> 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking about

> navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat is the lord

> of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he could

> have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and 4th lord as

> well.....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> //

> , " axeplex " <axeplex@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandru ji,

> >

> > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but can only

> show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is triggered, that

> problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall be marriage

> in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.

> >

> > regds

> > Dev

> >

> > , " CP " nanna_id2006@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and

> NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from

> another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9

> Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned

> members out there in AIA.

> > >

> > > Here are the details: MALE Native

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > May 25, 1988

> > > Time: 8:25:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 "

> > > Chennai, India

> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha

> > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)

> > >

> > > Native's question:

> > >

> > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in

> which mars is involved and is in seventh house.

> > >

> > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//

> > >

> > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana

> are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not

> signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of

> Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is

> happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some

> effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or

> Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate

> all your comments and observations..

> > >

> > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also

> additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this

> given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma

> Punya, Children etc.

> > >

> > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange

> in Navamsa?

> > >

> > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and

> predicting the events in this case?

> > >

> > > Kindly share....

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Chandu2Chill

> > >

> >

>

January 16, 2010

Dear Dev ji,Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not hardly, but they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts are used to check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area. Natal chart gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the more subtle tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength is judged from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength in the varga is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal chart. Next most important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha results. The house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often indicates the areas of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native gets promoted in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a study of relevant divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of two diverse events.

Hope that helpsRegardsNeelam2010/1/16 axeplex <axeplex

Dear Gopiji,

While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this group lot on " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly people use it. If you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are saying all people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. Where is then use of Divisions?

regds

Dev

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: