Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Yes, I meant navamsha chart. Mer gets libra navamsha and 5H in navamsha. We did have a lot of discussion earlier regarding divisions and divisional charts and some of us, like Sreenadhji are of the opinion that divisions should not be read as independent charts. I, howvever, follow the method of reading the divisions both as divisions as well as with relative placement of planets as seen through D-charts. Mer Navamsha, e.g would be read as mercury's sign placement/dispositor as well as house placement. RegardsNeelam2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex Neelamji, I am open to learning anyday from anyone if it is worth and if it is you, it is like learning from very experienced and learned one. When you say 7th lord ME in 5th House, you are using D-chart ( by saying 5th house) and not divisions only. I remember we had lot of discussions on this topic that we shall look into divisions and not D-chart. I would like and request all members to restart the discussion how best utilize D-charts. Here I would not like to stick to how I use D-charts myself. regds Dev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > You didn't say that Dev ji, but Chanduji's query was directly related to > this issue. Hence the discussion. > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which > mars is involved and is in seventh house. Does this mean I should never get > married in my life?// > > Nonetheless, let us take up the navamsha reading now, say for 7L mercury in > Gemini in 7H in natal chart, but in libra in 5H in navamsha. > > Regards > Neelam > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex > > > > > > > That's good Neelamji, I never said that results shall only be seen from > > D-charts neglecting Rasi. but I would request to include D-chart analysis > > points also for better inferences. > > > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > <%40>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > I had not mentioned all the points which I took into consideration. Just > > > mentioned the major points related to natal chart. The point of > > discussion > > > was whether to override natal chart and check from navamsha only for > > which I > > > tried to highlight natal combinations. Navamsha cannot be overlooked for > > > drawing correct inferences. Hope that clarifies. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have not seen > > people > > > > utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let us take this > > marriage > > > > querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. As you said, > > planetary > > > > strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be judged from D-chart. Then > > what > > > > is left? D-chart is equally important. > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 was used > > except > > > > that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while predicting Ra-Ra-Me > > for > > > > marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated on D-9 only. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not hardly, > > but > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts are > > used > > > > to > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area. Natal > > > > chart > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the more > > subtle > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength is > > judged > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength in the > > > > varga > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal chart. > > Next > > > > most > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha > > results. > > > > The > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often indicates > > the > > > > areas > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native gets > > > > promoted > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a study of > > > > relevant > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of two > > diverse > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this group > > lot > > > > on > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly people > > use > > > > it. If > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are saying > > all > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. Where is > > then > > > > use > > > > > > of Divisions? > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji, > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and > > > > > > > predicting the > > > > > > > events in this case?// > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for any > > > > event.If > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should > > certainly > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know. > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual asp > > with > > > > Sat > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking > > about > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat is the > > > > lord > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he > > > > could > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and 4th > > lord as > > > > > > > well..... > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > // > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but can > > only > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is > > triggered, > > > > that > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall be > > > > marriage > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding > > Navamsa > > > > and > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query > > > > from > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa > > i.e. > > > > D-9 > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from > > learned > > > > > > > members out there in AIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988 > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in > > navamsa, > > > > in > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in > > Parivartana > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are > > not > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in > > Nakshatras > > > > of > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or > > some > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either > > Good or > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > all your comments and observations.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in > > this > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, > > PoorvaJanma > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in > > > > exchange > > > > > > > in Navamsa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading > > and > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Good Neelamji, we are on same lines here. What about using 7th house and 7th lord in Navamsa. Do you use it or not? regds Dev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Yes, I meant navamsha chart. Mer gets libra navamsha and 5H in navamsha. We > did have a lot of discussion earlier regarding divisions and divisional > charts and some of us, like Sreenadhji are of the opinion that divisions > should not be read as independent charts. I, howvever, follow the method of > reading the divisions both as divisions as well as with relative placement > of planets as seen through D-charts. Mer Navamsha, e.g would be read as > mercury's sign placement/dispositor as well as house placement. > > Regards > Neelam > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > I am open to learning anyday from anyone if it is worth and if it is you, > > it is like learning from very experienced and learned one. When you say 7th > > lord ME in 5th House, you are using D-chart ( by saying 5th house) and not > > divisions only. I remember we had lot of discussions on this topic that we > > shall look into divisions and not D-chart. > > > > I would like and request all members to restart the discussion how best > > utilize D-charts. Here I would not like to stick to how I use D-charts > > myself. > > > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > You didn't say that Dev ji, but Chanduji's query was directly related to > > > this issue. Hence the discussion. > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which > > > mars is involved and is in seventh house. Does this mean I should never > > get > > > married in my life?// > > > > > > Nonetheless, let us take up the navamsha reading now, say for 7L mercury > > in > > > Gemini in 7H in natal chart, but in libra in 5H in navamsha. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's good Neelamji, I never said that results shall only be seen from > > > > D-charts neglecting Rasi. but I would request to include D-chart > > analysis > > > > points also for better inferences. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40>, > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > I had not mentioned all the points which I took into consideration. > > Just > > > > > mentioned the major points related to natal chart. The point of > > > > discussion > > > > > was whether to override natal chart and check from navamsha only for > > > > which I > > > > > tried to highlight natal combinations. Navamsha cannot be overlooked > > for > > > > > drawing correct inferences. Hope that clarifies. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have not > > seen > > > > people > > > > > > utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let us take this > > > > marriage > > > > > > querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. As you said, > > > > planetary > > > > > > strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be judged from D-chart. > > Then > > > > what > > > > > > is left? D-chart is equally important. > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 was > > used > > > > except > > > > > > that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while predicting > > Ra-Ra-Me > > > > for > > > > > > marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated on D-9 only. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not > > hardly, > > > > but > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts > > are > > > > used > > > > > > to > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area. > > Natal > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the more > > > > subtle > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength > > is > > > > judged > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength in > > the > > > > > > varga > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal chart. > > > > Next > > > > > > most > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha > > > > results. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often > > indicates > > > > the > > > > > > areas > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native gets > > > > > > promoted > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a study > > of > > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of two > > > > diverse > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this > > group > > > > lot > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly > > people > > > > use > > > > > > it. If > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are > > saying > > > > all > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. Where > > is > > > > then > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > of Divisions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji, > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading > > and > > > > > > > > > predicting the > > > > > > > > > events in this case?// > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for > > any > > > > > > event.If > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should > > > > certainly > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know. > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual > > asp > > > > with > > > > > > Sat > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking > > > > about > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat is > > the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance > > he > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and 4th > > > > lord as > > > > > > > > > well..... > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > // > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but > > can > > > > only > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is > > > > triggered, > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall > > be > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding > > > > Navamsa > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and > > query > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in > > Namvamsa > > > > i.e. > > > > > > D-9 > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from > > > > learned > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in > > > > Parivartana > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and > > are > > > > not > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in > > > > Nakshatras > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana > > is > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or > > > > some > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either > > > > Good or > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would > > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And > > also > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses > > in > > > > this > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, > > > > PoorvaJanma > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are > > in > > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while > > reading > > > > and > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Dev ji, Gopi ji and all,This person started Rahu mahadasha in January 2009. In April he will start Ra-Ra-Me. Let us try to delineate the results of Ra-Ra for him and also Ra-Ra-Me, based on Rashi and D-charts. I invite everyone to share their views. I hope Chandu ji can confirm the readings. RegardsNeelam2010/1/17 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Dear Dev ji,oops..//I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.//what i meant was i have not mentioned retro in Rasi thinking learned members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the worry of those who does not understand.... Love and regards,gopi. , " axeplex " <axeplex wrote: >> Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay with that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was looking at D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour where D-10 was opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry. > > regds> Dev> > , " gopalakrishna " gopi_b927@ wrote: > >> > Dear Dev ji,> > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi thinking> > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every> > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th . > > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and D-9> > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in Rasi,> > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi. > > >> > > correct me if there are gaps.> > >> > > regds> > > Dev> > >> > > , " gopalakrishna " > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with> > Mars in> > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of > > > >> > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he could> > have> > > > a love marriage.//> > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not want to > > go> > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained myself....even> > > > without looking into dasas etc..> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi. > > > > , " axeplex " > > <axeplex@>> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > >> > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have not> > seen> > > > people utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let us > > take> > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. As> > you> > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be judged> > from > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important.> > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 was> > used> > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while > > predicting> > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated on> > D-9> > > > only.> > > > >> > > > > regds > > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > , neelam gupta > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not > > hardly,> > > > but> > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts> > are> > > > used to> > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area. > > Natal> > > > chart> > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the> > more> > > > subtle> > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength > > is> > > > judged> > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength in> > the> > > > varga> > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal > > chart.> > > > Next most> > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha> > > > results. The> > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often > > indicates> > > > the areas> > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native> > gets> > > > promoted> > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a study > > of> > > > relevant> > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of two> > > > diverse> > > > > > events.> > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Gopiji, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this> > > > group lot on> > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly > > people> > > > use it. If> > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are> > > > saying all> > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. Where > > is> > > > then use> > > > > > > of Divisions?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > <%40yaho\ > > \> > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji,> > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > reading> > > > and> > > > > > > > predicting the > > > > > > > > events in this case?//> > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for> > any> > > > event.If> > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know.> > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual > > asp> > > > with Sat> > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking> > > > about> > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat > > is> > > > the lord> > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every> > chance he> > > > could> > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and > > 4th> > > > lord as> > > > > > > > well.....> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > // > > > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > <%40yaho\ > > \> > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but > > can> > > > only> > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is> > > > triggered, that> > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall > > be> > > > marriage> > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In> > > >> > <%40yaho\ > > \> > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding > > > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and> > > > query from> > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in > > Namvamsa> > > > i.e. D-9> > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from> > > > learned> > > > > > > > members out there in AIA. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988> > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India> > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Native's question:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in > > > > navamsa, in> > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in> > > > Parivartana> > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and > > are> > > > not> > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in> > > > Nakshatras of> > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this > > parivartana is> > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and> > or> > > > some> > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native > > either> > > > Good or> > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would> > > > appreciate> > > > > > > > all your comments and observations.. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And> > > > also> > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular > > Houses in> > > > this> > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck,> > > > PoorvaJanma> > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > in Navamsa? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > reading> > > > and> > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Kindly share....> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Gopiji, Sa shall be in retrograde in all charts but not in Lagna in each D-chart. In this case, Sa is in Lagna in both D-1 and D-9. Hope it clarifies. regds Dev , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Dev ji, > oops.. > //I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.// > what i meant was i have not mentioned retro in Rasi thinking learned > members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as > Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the worry > of those who does not understand.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > , " axeplex " <axeplex@> > wrote: > > > > Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on > Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay > with that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was > looking at D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour > where D-10 was opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ® > as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi > thinking > > > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every > > > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th . > > > Love and regards, > > > gopi. > > > , " axeplex " > <axeplex@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and > D-9 > > > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in > Rasi, > > > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi. > > > > > > > > correct me if there are gaps. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > > gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with > > > Mars in > > > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of > > > > > > > > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he > could > > > have > > > > > a love marriage.// > > > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not > want to > > > go > > > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained > myself....even > > > > > without looking into dasas etc.. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > gopi. > > > > > , " axeplex " > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have > not > > > seen > > > > > people utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let us > > > take > > > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. > As > > > you > > > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be > judged > > > from > > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important. > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 > was > > > used > > > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while > > > predicting > > > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated > on > > > D-9 > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not > > > hardly, > > > > > but > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional > charts > > > are > > > > > used to > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned > area. > > > Natal > > > > > chart > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the > > > more > > > > > subtle > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary > strength > > > is > > > > > judged > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains > strength in > > > the > > > > > varga > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal > > > chart. > > > > > Next most > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is > dasha > > > > > results. The > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often > > > indicates > > > > > the areas > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native > > > gets > > > > > promoted > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a > study > > > of > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of > two > > > > > diverse > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in > this > > > > > group lot on > > > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly > > > people > > > > > use it. If > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you > are > > > > > saying all > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. > Where > > > is > > > > > then use > > > > > > > > of Divisions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\ > \ > > > \ > > > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji, > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while > > > reading > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > predicting the > > > > > > > > > events in this case?// > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart > for > > > any > > > > > event.If > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we > should > > > > > certainly > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all > know. > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in > mutual > > > asp > > > > > with Sat > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While > talking > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in > 7th.Sat > > > is > > > > > the lord > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every > > > chance he > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna > and > > > 4th > > > > > lord as > > > > > > > > > well..... > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > // > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\ > \ > > > \ > > > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage > but > > > can > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is > > > > > triggered, that > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there > shall > > > be > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\ > \ > > > \ > > > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion > regarding > > > > > Navamsa and > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals > and > > > > > query from > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in > > > Namvamsa > > > > > i.e. D-9 > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn > from > > > > > learned > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house > in > > > > > navamsa, in > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my > life?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved > in > > > > > Parivartana > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart > and > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in > > > > > Nakshatras of > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this > > > parivartana is > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing > and > > > or > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native > > > either > > > > > Good or > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence > would > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets > And > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular > > > Houses in > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, > > > > > PoorvaJanma > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets > are > > > in > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while > > > reading > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 yes Dev ji,you are right...-gopi. , "axeplex" <axeplex wrote:>> Gopiji,> > Sa shall be in retrograde in all charts but not in Lagna in each D-chart. In this case, Sa is in Lagna in both D-1 and D-9. Hope it clarifies.> > regds> Dev > > , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Dev ji,> > oops..> > //I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.//> > what i meant was i have not mentioned retro in Rasi thinking learned> > members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as> > Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the worry> > of those who does not understand....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on> > Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay> > with that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was> > looking at D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour> > where D-10 was opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ®> > as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.> > >> > > regds> > > Dev> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi> > thinking> > > > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every> > > > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th .> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , "axeplex"> > <axeplex@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and> > D-9> > > > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in> > Rasi,> > > > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi.> > > > >> > > > > correct me if there are gaps.> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with> > > > Mars in> > > > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of> > > > > >> > > > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he> > could> > > > have> > > > > > a love marriage.//> > > > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not> > want to> > > > go> > > > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained> > myself....even> > > > > > without looking into dasas etc..> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , "axeplex"> > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was "I have> > not> > > > seen> > > > > > people utilizing these facts in this group". For example, let us> > > > take> > > > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected.> > As> > > > you> > > > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be> > judged> > > > from> > > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important.> > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9> > was> > > > used> > > > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while> > > > predicting> > > > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated> > on> > > > D-9> > > > > > only.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not> > > > hardly,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional> > charts> > > > are> > > > > > used to> > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned> > area.> > > > Natal> > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the> > > > more> > > > > > subtle> > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary> > strength> > > > is> > > > > > judged> > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains> > strength in> > > > the> > > > > > varga> > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal> > > > chart.> > > > > > Next most> > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is> > dasha> > > > > > results. The> > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often> > > > indicates> > > > > > the areas> > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native> > > > gets> > > > > > promoted> > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a> > study> > > > of> > > > > > relevant> > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of> > two> > > > > > diverse> > > > > > > > events.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hope that helps> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in> > this> > > > > > group lot on> > > > > > > > > "We shall see different shades from Divisions" but hardly> > > > people> > > > > > use it. If> > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you> > are> > > > > > saying all> > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage.> > Where> > > > is> > > > > > then use> > > > > > > > > of Divisions?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > >> > <%40yaho\> > \> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji,> > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > reading> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > predicting the> > > > > > > > > > events in this case?//> > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart> > for> > > > any> > > > > > event.If> > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we> > should> > > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all> > know.> > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in> > mutual> > > > asp> > > > > > with Sat> > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While> > talking> > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in> > 7th.Sat> > > > is> > > > > > the lord> > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every> > > > chance he> > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna> > and> > > > 4th> > > > > > lord as> > > > > > > > > > well.....> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > //> > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > >> > <%40yaho\> > \> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage> > but> > > > can> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is> > > > > > triggered, that> > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there> > shall> > > > be> > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > >> > <%40yaho\> > \> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > "CP" nanna_id2006@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion> > regarding> > > > > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals> > and> > > > > > query from> > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in> > > > Namvamsa> > > > > > i.e. D-9> > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn> > from> > > > > > learned> > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India> > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house> > in> > > > > > navamsa, in> > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my> > life?//> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved> > in> > > > > > Parivartana> > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart> > and> > > > are> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in> > > > > > Nakshatras of> > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this> > > > parivartana is> > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing> > and> > > > or> > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native> > > > either> > > > > > Good or> > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence> > would> > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations..> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets> > And> > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular> > > > Houses in> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck,> > > > > > PoorvaJanma> > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets> > are> > > > in> > > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > reading> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share....> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Chandu(CP)ji,We are discussing the chart posted by you.Please respond!!!Sreenadh ji could discuss about navamsaka later i believe....Love and regards,gopi , "CP" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> Dear All,> > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA.> > Here are the details: MALE Native> Natal Chart> > May 25, 1988> Time: 8:25:00 pm> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> Chennai, India> Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > Native's question:> > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//> > With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations..> > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc. > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa? > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the events in this case?> > Kindly share....> > Regards> > Chandu2Chill> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Neelam ji, Rahu in the naks of jup lagna lord in 5th H of Mars who is in 3rdH and upapada while the dispositor and lord of upapada in lagna but RETRO?!!Mer in 7th in own house is with Ven® a malefic for the lagna is also in mutual asp with Sat®.I just cant be sure about Retro planets since they behave both ways ie back and forth by complicating. In Navamsa Rahu is in 12th(bed comfirts as well as Loss/Moksha etc) in a venus sign while Mer is in 5th(love affairs/sadhana etc) but again in a ven sign in mutual asp with exalt 9L(God/Guru/Spiritual etc) sun.Navamsa is showing good spiritual tendencies according to my own research.Hence i have to check Vimsamsa as well. Rahu with Mars and ketu in 5th while Mer is exalt in 9th with moon the tendency towards spirituality is there but stil sat® with dear friend Ven also retro is aspg both from 12th which is Guru's ashram in D20. Its a toss up between love and Spirituality but not marriage.The native is in DILEMMA... in this particular period which you refer....Warm regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Dev ji, Gopi ji and all,> > This person started Rahu mahadasha in January 2009. In April he will start> Ra-Ra-Me. Let us try to delineate the results of Ra-Ra for him and also> Ra-Ra-Me, based on Rashi and D-charts. I invite everyone to share their> views. I hope Chandu ji can confirm the readings.> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2010/1/17 gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > >> >> > *Dear Dev ji,> > oops..> > //*I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.//> > *what i meant was i have not mentioned ** retro in Rasi **thinking learned> > members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as> > Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the worry of> > those who does not understand....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > *> > , "axeplex" axeplex@> > wrote:> > >> > > Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on> > Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay with> > that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was looking at> > D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour where D-10 was> > opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ® as Retrograde and> > not Rasi. Don't worry.> > >> > > regds> > > Dev> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi thinking> > > > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every> > > > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th .> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and D-9> > > > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in Rasi,> > > > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi.> > > > >> > > > > correct me if there are gaps.> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with> > > > Mars in> > > > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of> > > > > >> > > > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he could> > > > have> > > > > > a love marriage.//> > > > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not want> > to> > > > go> > > > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained myself....even> > > > > > without looking into dasas etc..> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , "axeplex"> > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was "I have not> > > > seen> > > > > > people utilizing these facts in this group". For example, let us> > > > take> > > > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. As> > > > you> > > > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be judged> > > > from> > > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important.> > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 was> > > > used> > > > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while> > > > predicting> > > > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated on> > > > D-9> > > > > > only.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , neelam gupta> > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not> > > > hardly,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts> > > > are> > > > > > used to> > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area.> > > > Natal> > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the> > > > more> > > > > > subtle> > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength> > > > is> > > > > > judged> > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength> > in> > > > the> > > > > > varga> > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal> > > > chart.> > > > > > Next most> > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha> > > > > > results. The> > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often> > > > indicates> > > > > > the areas> > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native> > > > gets> > > > > > promoted> > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a> > study> > > > of> > > > > > relevant> > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of> > two> > > > > > diverse> > > > > > > > events.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hope that helps> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this> > > > > > group lot on> > > > > > > > > "We shall see different shades from Divisions" but hardly> > > > people> > > > > > use it. If> > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are> > > > > > saying all> > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage.> > Where> > > > is> > > > > > then use> > > > > > > > > of Divisions?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji,> > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > reading> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > predicting the> > > > > > > > > > events in this case?//> > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for> > > > any> > > > > > event.If> > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should> > > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know.> > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual> > > > asp> > > > > > with Sat> > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While> > talking> > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat> > > > is> > > > > > the lord> > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every> > > > chance he> > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and> > > > 4th> > > > > > lord as> > > > > > > > > > well.....> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > //> > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but> > > > can> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is> > > > > > triggered, that> > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall> > > > be> > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > "CP" nanna_id2006@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding> > > > > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and> > > > > > query from> > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in> > > > Namvamsa> > > > > > i.e. D-9> > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn> > from> > > > > > learned> > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India> > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in> > > > > > navamsa, in> > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in> > > > > > Parivartana> > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and> > > > are> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in> > > > > > Nakshatras of> > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this> > > > parivartana is> > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and> > > > or> > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native> > > > either> > > > > > Good or> > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence> > would> > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations..> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets> > And> > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular> > > > Houses in> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck,> > > > > > PoorvaJanma> > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets> > are> > > > in> > > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > reading> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share....> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Neelam ji,Saturn in Lagna and Venus in 7H and both are retrograde and in close aspect.This may cause frustration and delay in marriage.Regards,G. K. Goel From: neelamgupta07Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:28:54 +0530Re: Amsa Parivartana Dear Chandu ji,Can we jump over the natal chart and land on to navamsha? With Rahu dasha just starting and Rahu strong in 3H with 5L Mars and 7L with Venus in 7H, how would the native stay away from marriage? What is this 'SHOULD' about? Can any astrologer scare a young man away from marriage? When all the prevailing discords and high divorce rates... and of course OSHO could not!RegardsNeelam 2010/1/16 CP <nanna_id2006 > Dear All, We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA. Here are the details: MALE Native Natal Chart May 25, 1988 Time: 8:25:00 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00" Chennai, India Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) Native's question: //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house. Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations.. There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc. Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa? How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the events in this case? Kindly share.... Regards Chandu2Chill New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Respected Goel ji,Saturn aspects not only Venus, but moon as well. Makes a combination for delay. Saturn also aspects 7H/7L not only in natal chart, but also in navamsha. Again a case of delay. How far retrogression adds to it, I am not sure. But the native runs a dasha of Rahu who is a marriage giver posited with 5L Mars. Rahu aspects 7H/7L and Venus, thereby pushing all to give results despite of Saturn's aspect. Mars also aspects Moon. Saturn himself is 2L of family and Venus is also 11L of desires. In all, I feel the planets would be able to push the native for marriage rather early. There may be frsutrations or discords because of heavy 1/7 axis, in any case. This is just a viewpoint. What actually happens, only time can tell. Mercury-Venus in Gemini in 7H would also be conducive to relationships and marriage with Jupiter supporting in 5H (11th from 7H).Regards Neelam2010/1/17 gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel Dear Neelam ji,Saturn in Lagna and Venus in 7H and both are retrograde and in close aspect.This may cause frustration and delay in marriage.Regards,G. K. Goel From: neelamgupta07 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:28:54 +0530Re: Amsa Parivartana Dear Chandu ji,Can we jump over the natal chart and land on to navamsha? With Rahu dasha just starting and Rahu strong in 3H with 5L Mars and 7L with Venus in 7H, how would the native stay away from marriage? What is this 'SHOULD' about? Can any astrologer scare a young man away from marriage? When all the prevailing discords and high divorce rates... and of course OSHO could not!RegardsNeelam 2010/1/16 CP <nanna_id2006 Dear All, We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding Navamsa and NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query from another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa i.e. D-9 Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from learned members out there in AIA. Here are the details: MALE Native Natal Chart May 25, 1988 Time: 8:25:00 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " Chennai, India Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) Native's question: //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house. Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// With my little understanding, the planets involved in Parivartana are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are not signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in Nakshatras of Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or some effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either Good or Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would appreciate all your comments and observations.. There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in this given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, PoorvaJanma Punya, Children etc. Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in exchange in Navamsa? How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and predicting the events in this case? Kindly share.... Regards Chandu2Chill New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Gopi ji,Vimshamsha is a very fine division, so we must be sure of the time. Need to verify the chart for this. We are almost backing up a blind horse as we've not yet heard from Chandu ji!Regards Neelam2010/1/17 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Dear Neelam ji, Rahu in the naks of jup lagna lord in 5th H of Mars who is in 3rdH and upapada while the dispositor and lord of upapada in lagna but RETRO?!!Mer in 7th in own house is with Ven® a malefic for the lagna is also in mutual asp with Sat®.I just cant be sure about Retro planets since they behave both ways ie back and forth by complicating. In Navamsa Rahu is in 12th(bed comfirts as well as Loss/Moksha etc) in a venus sign while Mer is in 5th(love affairs/sadhana etc) but again in a ven sign in mutual asp with exalt 9L(God/Guru/Spiritual etc) sun.Navamsa is showing good spiritual tendencies according to my own research.Hence i have to check Vimsamsa as well. Rahu with Mars and ketu in 5th while Mer is exalt in 9th with moon the tendency towards spirituality is there but stil sat® with dear friend Ven also retro is aspg both from 12th which is Guru's ashram in D20. Its a toss up between love and Spirituality but not marriage.The native is in DILEMMA... in this particular period which you refer....Warm regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: >> Dear Dev ji, Gopi ji and all,> > This person started Rahu mahadasha in January 2009. In April he will start> Ra-Ra-Me. Let us try to delineate the results of Ra-Ra for him and also > Ra-Ra-Me, based on Rashi and D-charts. I invite everyone to share their> views. I hope Chandu ji can confirm the readings.> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2010/1/17 gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > > >> >> > *Dear Dev ji,> > oops..> > //*I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.//> > *what i meant was i have not mentioned ** retro in Rasi **thinking learned > > members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as> > Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the worry of> > those who does not understand.... > > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > *> > , " axeplex " axeplex@ > > wrote:> > >> > > Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on> > Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay with> > that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was looking at > > D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour where D-10 was> > opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ® as Retrograde and> > not Rasi. Don't worry.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > >> > > , " gopalakrishna " > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi thinking> > > > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every > > > > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th .> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and D-9> > > > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in Rasi, > > > > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi.> > > > >> > > > > correct me if there are gaps.> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev > > > > >> > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with> > > > Mars in> > > > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of > > > > > >> > > > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he could> > > > have> > > > > > a love marriage.//> > > > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not want > > to> > > > go> > > > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained myself....even> > > > > > without looking into dasas etc..> > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , " axeplex " > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have not > > > > seen> > > > > > people utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let us> > > > take> > > > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. As > > > > you> > > > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be judged> > > > from> > > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important. > > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 was> > > > used> > > > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while > > > > predicting> > > > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated on> > > > D-9> > > > > > only.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not > > > > hardly,> > > > > > but> > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts> > > > are> > > > > > used to > > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area.> > > > Natal> > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the > > > > more> > > > > > subtle> > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength> > > > is> > > > > > judged > > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength> > in> > > > the> > > > > > varga> > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal > > > > chart.> > > > > > Next most> > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha> > > > > > results. The > > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often> > > > indicates> > > > > > the areas> > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native > > > > gets> > > > > > promoted> > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a> > study> > > > of> > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of> > two> > > > > > diverse> > > > > > > > events.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this > > > > > > group lot on> > > > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly> > > > people> > > > > > use it. If > > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are> > > > > > saying all> > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. > > Where> > > > is> > > > > > then use> > > > > > > > > of Divisions?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji, > > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > reading> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > predicting the > > > > > > > > > > events in this case?//> > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for> > > > any> > > > > > event.If > > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should> > > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know. > > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual> > > > asp> > > > > > with Sat> > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While > > talking> > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat> > > > is> > > > > > the lord > > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every> > > > chance he> > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and > > > > 4th> > > > > > lord as> > > > > > > > > > well.....> > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > > > > //> > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but> > > > can> > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is > > > > > > triggered, that> > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall> > > > be> > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > \> > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding> > > > > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and > > > > > > query from> > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in> > > > Namvamsa> > > > > > i.e. D-9 > > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn> > from> > > > > > learned> > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in> > > > > > navamsa, in > > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in> > > > > > Parivartana > > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and> > > > are> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in > > > > > > Nakshatras of> > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this> > > > parivartana is> > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and > > > > or> > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native> > > > either> > > > > > Good or > > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence> > would> > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations.. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets> > And> > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular> > > > Houses in> > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, > > > > > > PoorvaJanma> > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets > > are> > > > in> > > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while > > > > reading> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share.... > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Dear Neelam ji,yes for sure.Since Dev ji wanted discussion on vargas i just touched that point.Hope it clarifies ....Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Gopi ji,> > Vimshamsha is a very fine division, so we must be sure of the time. Need to> verify the chart for this. We are almost backing up a blind horse as we've> not yet heard from Chandu ji!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2010/1/17 gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > >> >> > *Dear Neelam ji,> > Rahu in the naks of jup lagna lord in> > 5th H of Mars who is in 3rdH and upapada while the dispositor and lord of> > upapada in lagna but RETRO?!!Mer in 7th in own house is with Ven® a> > malefic for the lagna is also in mutual asp with Sat®.I just cant be sure> > about Retro planets since they behave both ways ie back and forth by> > complicating.> > In Navamsa Rahu is in 12th(bed comfirts as well as Loss/Moksha> > etc) in a venus sign while Mer is in 5th(love affairs/sadhana etc) but> > again in a ven sign in mutual asp with exalt 9L(God/Guru/Spiritual etc)> > sun.Navamsa is showing good spiritual tendencies according to my own> > research.Hence i have to check Vimsamsa as well.> > Rahu with Mars and ketu in 5th while Mer is exalt in 9th with moon> > the tendency towards spirituality is there but stil sat® with dear friend> > Ven also retro is aspg both from 12th which is Guru's ashram in D20.> > Its a toss up between love and Spirituality but not marriage.The> > native is in DILEMMA... in this particular period which you refer....> > Warm regards,> > gopi.*> >> > , neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Dev ji, Gopi ji and all,> > >> > > This person started Rahu mahadasha in January 2009. In April he will> > start> > > Ra-Ra-Me. Let us try to delineate the results of Ra-Ra for him and also> > > Ra-Ra-Me, based on Rashi and D-charts. I invite everyone to share their> > > views. I hope Chandu ji can confirm the readings.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2010/1/17 gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > *Dear Dev ji,> >> > > > oops..> > > > //*I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.//> > > > *what i meant was i have not mentioned ** retro in Rasi **thinking> > learned> > > > members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as> > > > Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the> > worry of> > > > those who does not understand....> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > *> > > > , "axeplex" axeplex@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on> > > > Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay> > with> > > > that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was> > looking at> > > > D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour where D-10> > was> > > > opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ® as Retrograde> > and> > > > not Rasi. Don't worry.> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi> > thinking> > > > > > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every> > > > > > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th .> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , "axeplex"> > <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and> > D-9> > > > > > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in> > Rasi,> > > > > > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > correct me if there are gaps.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp> > with> > > > > > Mars in> > > > > > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he> > could> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > a love marriage.//> > > > > > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not> > want> > > > to> > > > > > go> > > > > > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained> > myself....even> > > > > > > > without looking into dasas etc..> > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > , "axeplex"> > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was "I have> > not> > > > > > seen> > > > > > > > people utilizing these facts in this group". For example, let> > us> > > > > > take> > > > > > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be> > neglected. As> > > > > > you> > > > > > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be> > judged> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important.> > > > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9> > was> > > > > > used> > > > > > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while> > > > > > predicting> > > > > > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated> > on> > > > > > D-9> > > > > > > > only.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , neelam> > gupta> > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands.> > Not> > > > > > hardly,> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional> > charts> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > used to> > > > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned> > area.> > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict> > the> > > > > > more> > > > > > > > subtle> > > > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary> > strength> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > judged> > > > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains> > strength> > > > in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > varga> > > > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal> > > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > Next most> > > > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is> > dasha> > > > > > > > results. The> > > > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often> > > > > > indicates> > > > > > > > the areas> > > > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a> > native> > > > > > gets> > > > > > > > promoted> > > > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a> > > > study> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > relevant> > > > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening> > of> > > > two> > > > > > > > diverse> > > > > > > > > > events.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in> > this> > > > > > > > group lot on> > > > > > > > > > > "We shall see different shades from Divisions" but hardly> > > > > > people> > > > > > > > use it. If> > > > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you> > are> > > > > > > > saying all> > > > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage.> > > > Where> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > then use> > > > > > > > > > > of Divisions?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > > > \> > > > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > > > "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > > > reading> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > predicting the> > > > > > > > > > > > events in this case?//> > > > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart> > for> > > > > > any> > > > > > > > event.If> > > > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we> > should> > > > > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all> > know.> > > > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in> > mutual> > > > > > asp> > > > > > > > with Sat> > > > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While> > > > talking> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in> > 7th.Sat> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > the lord> > > > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every> > > > > > chance he> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna> > and> > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > lord as> > > > > > > > > > > > well.....> > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > //> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > > > \> > > > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > > > "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage> > but> > > > > > can> > > > > > > > only> > > > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is> > > > > > > > triggered, that> > > > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there> > shall> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > > > \> > > > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > > > "CP" nanna_id2006@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion> > regarding> > > > > > > > Navamsa and> > > > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals> > and> > > > > > > > query from> > > > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in> > > > > > Namvamsa> > > > > > > > i.e. D-9> > > > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn> > > > from> > > > > > > > learned> > > > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00", 13 N 05' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left)> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th> > house in> > > > > > > > navamsa, in> > > > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my> > life?//> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved> > in> > > > > > > > Parivartana> > > > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart> > and> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are> > in> > > > > > > > Nakshatras of> > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this> > > > > > parivartana is> > > > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing> > and> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native> > > > > > either> > > > > > > > Good or> > > > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence> > > > would> > > > > > > > appreciate> > > > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations..> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2> > planets> > > > And> > > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular> > > > > > Houses in> > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck,> > > > > > > > PoorvaJanma> > > > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when> > Planets> > > > are> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > > > reading> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share....> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Sure Gopi ji. :-) RegardsNeelam2010/1/18 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Dear Neelam ji,yes for sure.Since Dev ji wanted discussion on vargas i just touched that point.Hope it clarifies ....Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: >> Dear Gopi ji,> > Vimshamsha is a very fine division, so we must be sure of the time. Need to> verify the chart for this. We are almost backing up a blind horse as we've > not yet heard from Chandu ji!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2010/1/17 gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > >> >> > *Dear Neelam ji, > > Rahu in the naks of jup lagna lord in> > 5th H of Mars who is in 3rdH and upapada while the dispositor and lord of> > upapada in lagna but RETRO?!!Mer in 7th in own house is with Ven® a > > malefic for the lagna is also in mutual asp with Sat®.I just cant be sure> > about Retro planets since they behave both ways ie back and forth by> > complicating.> > In Navamsa Rahu is in 12th(bed comfirts as well as Loss/Moksha > > etc) in a venus sign while Mer is in 5th(love affairs/sadhana etc) but> > again in a ven sign in mutual asp with exalt 9L(God/Guru/Spiritual etc)> > sun.Navamsa is showing good spiritual tendencies according to my own > > research.Hence i have to check Vimsamsa as well.> > Rahu with Mars and ketu in 5th while Mer is exalt in 9th with moon> > the tendency towards spirituality is there but stil sat® with dear friend > > Ven also retro is aspg both from 12th which is Guru's ashram in D20.> > Its a toss up between love and Spirituality but not marriage.The> > native is in DILEMMA... in this particular period which you refer.... > > Warm regards,> > gopi.*> >> > , neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > >> > > Dear Dev ji, Gopi ji and all,> > >> > > This person started Rahu mahadasha in January 2009. In April he will> > start> > > Ra-Ra-Me. Let us try to delineate the results of Ra-Ra for him and also > > > Ra-Ra-Me, based on Rashi and D-charts. I invite everyone to share their> > > views. I hope Chandu ji can confirm the readings.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam > > >> > >> > > 2010/1/17 gopalakrishna gopi_b927@> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > *Dear Dev ji,> >> > > > oops.. > > > > //*I also understand ® as Retrograde and not Rasi. Don't worry.//> > > > *what i meant was i have not mentioned ** retro in Rasi **thinking> > learned> > > > members know if a planet is retro it is retro in everyDchart as well as > > > > Rasi....As far as worrying is concerned it is not my worry but the> > worry of> > > > those who does not understand....> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi. > > > > *> > > > , " axeplex " axeplex@> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > Gopiji, sorry I made mistake. First time when I commented in group on> > > > Ra-Ju period for marriage, I was reading right charts of D-9 and stay> > with > > > > that analysis. But when I was going through your analysis, I was> > looking at> > > > D-10. Actually I was reading some other chart for one hour where D-10> > was > > > > opened and forgot to change to D-9. I also understand ® as Retrograde> > and> > > > not Rasi. Don't worry.> > > > >> > > > > regds > > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > thanks for correcting me.I just did not mention '®' in Rasi > > thinking> > > > > > learned members know that when a planet is retro it is retro every> > > > > > where. According to J.hora Mars in D9 is in 7th .> > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , " axeplex " > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sir, Sa is retrograde even in Rasi. Ma is in 3rd both in Rasi and> > D-9> > > > > > and not in 7th. Sa offcourse is aspecting Ma. Sa is lord of UL in > > Rasi,> > > > > > Ma is lord of 5th in Rasi.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > correct me if there are gaps.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , " gopalakrishna " > > > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > //While talking about navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp > > with> > > > > > Mars in> > > > > > > > 7th.Sat is the lord of> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he > > could> > > > > > have> > > > > > > > a love marriage.//> > > > > > > > This was what i posted as a brief of navamsa since i did not > > want> > > > to> > > > > > go> > > > > > > > deeper which was not encouraging.Hence i restrained> > myself....even> > > > > > > > without looking into dasas etc.. > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > , " axeplex " > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have> > not> > > > > > seen> > > > > > > > people utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let > > us> > > > > > take> > > > > > > > this marriage querry, D-9 is important and can not be> > neglected. As> > > > > > you> > > > > > > > said, planetary strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be > > judged> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > D-chart. Then what is left? D-chart is equally important.> > > > > > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 > > was> > > > > > used> > > > > > > > except that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while> > > > > > predicting> > > > > > > > Ra-Ra-Me for marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated > > on> > > > > > D-9> > > > > > > > only.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , neelam > > gupta> > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands.> > Not> > > > > > hardly,> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional > > charts> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > used to> > > > > > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned> > area. > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict> > the> > > > > > more > > > > > > > > subtle> > > > > > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary> > strength> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > judged > > > > > > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains> > strength> > > > in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > varga > > > > > > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal> > > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > Next most> > > > > > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is > > dasha> > > > > > > > results. The> > > > > > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often> > > > > > indicates > > > > > > > > the areas> > > > > > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a> > native> > > > > > gets> > > > > > > > promoted > > > > > > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a> > > > study> > > > > > of> > > > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening> > of> > > > two> > > > > > > > diverse> > > > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in> > this> > > > > > > > group lot on > > > > > > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly> > > > > > people> > > > > > > > use it. If> > > > > > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you > > are> > > > > > > > saying all> > > > > > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage.> > > > Where> > > > > > is > > > > > > > > then use> > > > > > > > > > > of Divisions?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\ > > > > > > \> > > > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while > > > > > > reading> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > predicting the> > > > > > > > > > > > events in this case?// > > > > > > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart> > for> > > > > > any> > > > > > > > event.If > > > > > > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we> > should> > > > > > > > certainly> > > > > > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all > > know.> > > > > > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in> > mutual> > > > > > asp> > > > > > > > with Sat > > > > > > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While> > > > talking> > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in > > 7th.Sat> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > the lord> > > > > > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every > > > > > > chance he> > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna> > and > > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > lord as> > > > > > > > > > > > well.....> > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > > > > > > > //> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\> > > > > > \ > > > > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage> > but> > > > > > can> > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is> > > > > > > > triggered, that> > > > > > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there > > shall> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <%40yaho\ > > > > > > \> > > > > > > > ogroups.com>,> > > > > > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion> > regarding> > > > > > > > Navamsa and > > > > > > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals> > and> > > > > > > > query from> > > > > > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in > > > > > > Namvamsa> > > > > > > > i.e. D-9> > > > > > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn> > > > from > > > > > > > > learned> > > > > > > > > > > > members out there in AIA.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th> > house in> > > > > > > > navamsa, in> > > > > > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my> > life?//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved> > in> > > > > > > > Parivartana> > > > > > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart > > and> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are> > in > > > > > > > > Nakshatras of> > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this> > > > > > parivartana is> > > > > > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing > > and> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native> > > > > > either > > > > > > > > Good or> > > > > > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence> > > > would> > > > > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > > > > > > all your comments and observations..> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 > > planets> > > > And> > > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular> > > > > > Houses in > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck,> > > > > > > > PoorvaJanma > > > > > > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when > > Planets> > > > are> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > > > in Navamsa?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while> > > > > > reading> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Respected Neelam Ji and All, I got little/Sudden busy after starting this thread. well while i go through all your comments Neelam Ji i would like to clarify... ***You didn't say that Dev ji, but Chanduji's query was directly related to this issue. Hence the discussion. //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house. Does this mean I should never get married in my life?//*** This query is NOT from me it put/asked by NATIVE himself i just bought this data and query here for all your information and study.. And also i am not saying we need to JUMP to Navamsa without being studying Natal Chart Kindly Re-read my this Thread i based MY Queries on Natal promises and Navamsa Fructifications... WHEN AMSA LORDs are in PARIVARTANA in NAVAMSA HOW DO WE DECIPHER..? That's my question.. Still my above queriies not answered or let me read all comments posts made so far in this thread Hope i am able to convey now better..since Mercury became Direct now:- Regards Chandu2Chill PS: I personally don't encourage especially young ones not to get marry and stuff even discourage them reading too much into the charts i am a FAMILY MAN...not OSHO!:-):-) , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > You didn't say that Dev ji, but Chanduji's query was directly related to this issue. Hence the discussion. //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in navamsa, in which mars is involved and is in seventh house. Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// > > Nonetheless, let us take up the navamsha reading now, say for 7L mercury in > Gemini in 7H in natal chart, but in libra in 5H in navamsha. > > Regards > Neelam > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex > > > > > > > That's good Neelamji, I never said that results shall only be seen from > > D-charts neglecting Rasi. but I would request to include D-chart analysis > > points also for better inferences. > > > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > I had not mentioned all the points which I took into consideration. Just > > > mentioned the major points related to natal chart. The point of > > discussion > > > was whether to override natal chart and check from navamsha only for > > which I > > > tried to highlight natal combinations. Navamsha cannot be overlooked for > > > drawing correct inferences. Hope that clarifies. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > 2010/1/17 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > > > There is total agreement on this but my comment was " I have not seen > > people > > > > utilizing these facts in this group " . For example, let us take this > > marriage > > > > querry, D-9 is important and can not be neglected. As you said, > > planetary > > > > strength, behavior and Dasa results shall be judged from D-chart. Then > > what > > > > is left? D-chart is equally important. > > > > But neither in your analysis nor in Gopiji's analysis , D-9 was used > > except > > > > that you used transit aspecting Navamsa Lagna while predicting Ra-Ra-Me > > for > > > > marriage. Moreover, original querry was initiated on D-9 only. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40>, > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > Divisional charts are most important tools in our hands. Not hardly, > > but > > > > > they're invariably used to check the results. Divisional charts are > > used > > > > to > > > > > check the inherent strength of a planet in the concerned area. Natal > > > > chart > > > > > gives the gross results whereas divisional charts depict the more > > subtle > > > > > tendencies of the planets. Most importantly, planetary strength is > > judged > > > > > from the divisional chart. e.g. A planet which gains strength in the > > > > varga > > > > > is bound to perform better than what we see from the natal chart. > > Next > > > > most > > > > > important point to be seen from the divisional charts is dasha > > results. > > > > The > > > > > house where is planet is placed in concerned varga often indicates > > the > > > > areas > > > > > of operation in its period. To give you an example, a native gets > > > > promoted > > > > > in the dasha of a planet, but also lost his father. Only a study of > > > > relevant > > > > > divisional charts would reveal the simultaneous happening of two > > diverse > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/16 axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gopiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > While I appreciate your analysis. I have seen we talk in this group > > lot > > > > on > > > > > > " We shall see different shades from Divisions " but hardly people > > use > > > > it. If > > > > > > you say love marriage by looking at Rasi chart only, you are saying > > all > > > > > > people born in that ASC window shall have love marriage. Where is > > then > > > > use > > > > > > of Divisions? > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandu ji, > > > > > > > // How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading and > > > > > > > predicting the > > > > > > > events in this case?// > > > > > > > i agree with Neelam ji that we can not jump Rasi chart for any > > > > event.If > > > > > > > we could not delineate from Rasi for some reason we should > > certainly > > > > > > > look into concerned Dchart,in this case D9 as we all know. > > > > > > > 7H in gemini(couple) with 7L and ven(match maker) in mutual asp > > with > > > > Sat > > > > > > > 2L of family,is there any escape from marriage?While talking > > about > > > > > > > navamsa sat® in lagna in mutual asp with Mars in 7th.Sat is the > > > > lord > > > > > > > of Upapada and Mars is 5L of Rasi.Hence there is every chance he > > > > could > > > > > > > have a love marriage.Note that jup is in 5th as lagna and 4th > > lord as > > > > > > > well..... > > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > > // > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandru ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, this combination does not deny marriage but can > > only > > > > > > > show problems after marriage and if this parivartana is > > triggered, > > > > that > > > > > > > problem also resolves somehow. In fact, I think there shall be > > > > marriage > > > > > > > in Ra Dasa, Jupiter Antas Dasa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > " CP " nanna_id2006@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have had a very good and useful discussion regarding > > Navamsa > > > > and > > > > > > > NavamsaKa previously.. Now i have got this chart detals and query > > > > from > > > > > > > another fourm regarding Planets that have exchanged in Namvamsa > > i.e. > > > > D-9 > > > > > > > Chart which i found bit interesting for study and learn from > > learned > > > > > > > members out there in AIA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details: MALE Native > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May 25, 1988 > > > > > > > > > Time: 8:25:00 pm > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > Place: 80 E 17' 00 " , 13 N 05' 00 " > > > > > > > > > Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vibhava - Adhika Jyeshtha > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Dasami (Mo) (75.53% left) > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Uttara Phalguni (Su) (61.12% left) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native's question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have amsa parivarthana between 6th and 7th house in > > navamsa, > > > > in > > > > > > > which mars is involved and is in seventh house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean I should never get married in my life?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With my little understanding, the planets involved in > > Parivartana > > > > > > > are Jup (LL + 4HL) and Mars (5HL + 12HL) of Rasi Chart and are > > not > > > > > > > signifying the Marriage nor do they (Jup and Mars)are in > > Nakshatras > > > > of > > > > > > > Marriage signifying house (2.7.11) lords BUT this parivartana is > > > > > > > happening in D-9 so certainly should have some bearing and or > > some > > > > > > > effects on the Marriage and Married life of the Native either > > Good or > > > > > > > Bad which i am not able understand and delineate hence would > > > > appreciate > > > > > > > all your comments and observations.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many Karaktwas assigned to these 2 planets And also > > > > > > > additional significances by being owners of perticular Houses in > > this > > > > > > > given chart. Jup is LL i.e. Self Body etc, Mars, luck, > > PoorvaJanma > > > > > > > Punya, Children etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, what effects/results can be seen when Planets are in > > > > exchange > > > > > > > in Navamsa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much imporatance should we give this to, while reading > > and > > > > > > > predicting the events in this case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly share.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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