Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Namaste ji to everyone. Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. warmest regards Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Sheevani Ji, It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. Hibernation is good some times Regards, -Manoj Sheevani <sheevani147 Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM childhood, adult and old age periods Namaste ji to everyone.Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..warmest regardsSheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Hi,You can try ashtakvarga method for this.lagna to fourth house is childhoodfifth-eighth house is youthninth -twelfth is old ageAdd total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life.Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.Regards,SoniaSheevani <sheevani147 Sent: Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM childhood, adult and old age periods Namaste ji to everyone. Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. warmest regards Sheevani The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Manoj-ji, Namaste, Thank you so much for your kind imput. I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging(especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) Karka for adulthood? warmest regards Sheevani , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > Hibernation is good some times >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > childhood, adult and old age periods > >  > Namaste ji to everyone. > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Soniaji, Namaste, Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regards Sheevani , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: > > Hi, > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > lagna to fourth house is childhood > fifth-eighth house is youth > ninth -twelfth is old age > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Soniaji, Namaste, Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regards Sheevani , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: > > Hi, > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > lagna to fourth house is childhood > fifth-eighth house is youth > ninth -twelfth is old age > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Neelamji, Namaste, Awww, dont go breaking my heart so!!! I still have lots to do! warmest regards Sheevani , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for > every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is > misery! :-) > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 > > > > > > > Dear Soniaji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for > > but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, > > linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > > > lagna to fourth house is childhood > > > fifth-eighth house is youth > > > ninth -twelfth is old age > > > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best > > phase in a persons life. > > > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend > > of life. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > > > childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of > > life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and > > shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or > > venus? > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his > > books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the " Universal Truth " .. Though there wud be many such cases of " rags to riches " (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well, I didn't say when one starts one's childhood!! :-)Best wishesNeelam2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Neelamji, Namaste, Awww, dont go breaking my heart so!!! I still have lots to do! warmest regards Sheevani , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for > every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is > misery! :-) > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 > > > > > > > Dear Soniaji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for > > but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, > > linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > <%40>, > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > > > lagna to fourth house is childhood > > > fifth-eighth house is youth > > > ninth -twelfth is old age > > > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best > > phase in a persons life. > > > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend > > of life. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > <%40> > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > > > childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of > > life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and > > shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or > > venus? > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his > > books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Neelamji I grant you the Title for " Gift of the Gab " Love Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:40 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Well, I didn't say when one starts one's childhood!! :-)Best wishesNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Neelamji,Namaste,Awww, dont go breaking my heart so!!! I still have lots to do!warmest regardsSheevani , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sheevani ji, > > You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for> every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is> misery! :-)> > Regards> Neelam > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 > > >> >> > Dear Soniaji,> >> > Namaste,> >> > Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for> > but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, > > linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system.> >> > warmest regards> > Sheevani> >> >> > <%40>, > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi,> > >> > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> > > lagna to fourth house is childhood > > > fifth-eighth house is youth> > > ninth -twelfth is old age> > > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best> > phase in a persons life.> > > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend > > of life.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > Sonia> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@>> >> > > <%40> > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> > > childhood, adult and old age periods> > >> > >> > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > >> > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar> > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await)> > >> > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > >> > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of> > life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > >> > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and > > shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or> > venus?> > >> > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his> > books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > >> > > warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in./> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper?We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart) RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012 Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the " Universal Truth " .. Though there wud be many such cases of " rags to riches " (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze.RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper? We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart) RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012 Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the " Universal Truth " .. Though there wud be many such cases of " rags to riches " (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 What happens to those that refuse to grow-up? Keep the curiosity and joy of childhood alive? warmest regards Sheevani , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Well, I didn't say when one starts one's childhood!! :-) > > Best wishes > Neelam > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Awww, dont go breaking my heart so!!! I still have lots to do! > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > > > > > You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for > > > every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is > > > misery! :-) > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soniaji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking > > for > > > > but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, > > > > linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40>, > > > > > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > > > > > lagna to fourth house is childhood > > > > > fifth-eighth house is youth > > > > > ninth -twelfth is old age > > > > > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the > > best > > > > phase in a persons life. > > > > > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about > > trend > > > > of life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > > > > > childhood, adult and old age > > periods > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period > > of > > > > life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood > > and > > > > shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or > > > > venus? > > > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of > > his > > > > books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 On a serious note:Indira Gandhi ran a period of Moon till she was about 12-13. This was a miserable period for the child. Saturn is the 8L in lagna aspecting and dispositng lagna lord Moon in 7H. In navamsha also saturn aspects lagna and Moon is in 12H in saturn's sign again. In his book The Nehru Dynasty, Sh KN Rao says: " Indira felt lonely and isolated in Anand Bhawan, Despite being a Kashmiri, she was not a patch on the five beauties who lived in the same house, Kamala, Nehru's sister Vijaylakhmi Pandit and her three daughters who were all ravishing beauties of their times. Amongst them, under the same roof, Indira must've been like a cactus, lean sickly awkward girl " . This melancholy and cynical nature became a part of her personality, as many close to her have said. Later dashas of vargottan yogkarak Mars gave her the courage to fight and 9L Jupiter brought her out of this shell and gave such stupendous success. RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze. RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper? We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart) RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012 Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the " Universal Truth " .. Though there wud be many such cases of " rags to riches " (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Neelam Ji, We all know beauty may come from outside but charisma comes from the inside. Ofcourse some lucky ones have both. Regards, -Manoj neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 9:24:31 AMRe: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze.RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper?We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012@ gmail.com> Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the "Universal Truth".. Though there wud be many such cases of "rags to riches" (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system.warmest regardsSheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life.> Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??> > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?> > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Sheevani Ji, I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to "grow up". On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively), moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. Regards, -Manoj Sheevani <sheevani147 Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Dear Manoj-ji,Namaste,Thank you so much for your kind imput.I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets.Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength)Karka for adulthood?warmest regardsSheevaniancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sheevani Ji,> > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered:> > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives.> > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world.> > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all.> > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world.> > Hibernation is good some times >  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> >  > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??> > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?> > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 And what factors should be found in those charts Sheevani ji?Any idea? Peace and happiness are in fourth, where mother lives and moon rules!RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 What happens to those that refuse to grow-up? Keep the curiosity and joy of childhood alive? warmest regards Sheevani , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Well, I didn't say when one starts one's childhood!! :-) > > Best wishes > Neelam > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Awww, dont go breaking my heart so!!! I still have lots to do! > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > <%40>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > > > > > You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for > > > every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is > > > misery! :-) > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soniaji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking > > for > > > > but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, > > > > linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40>, > > > > > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > > > > > lagna to fourth house is childhood > > > > > fifth-eighth house is youth > > > > > ninth -twelfth is old age > > > > > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the > > best > > > > phase in a persons life. > > > > > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about > > trend > > > > of life. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > <%40> > > > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > > > > > childhood, adult and old age > > periods > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period > > of > > > > life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood > > and > > > > shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or > > > > venus? > > > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of > > his > > > > books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Manoj ji, // If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives.// When would this second half of life arrive for each and every person? What do you mean by life being more fruitful?? In what way? //Shani is challenging in childhood............... On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively), moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc.// I totally agree with the above.....since I have first hand experience of life in a boarding school, away from parents , with the commencement of Shani/Rahu/Shani dasha....at the age of 4+. blessings, Renu , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > Hibernation is good some times >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > childhood, adult and old age periods > >  > Namaste ji to everyone. > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Renu Ji, It is a very general statement. Moon in Pushya natives generally flower late (due to Saturn's influence the delay and Brihaspathi's influence making Pushya auspicious in general (except for marriage)). Similar reasoning can be adpoted to all Nakshatras by looking at both Planetary Lord and Diety. It is ofcourse only one of several things to look at. Regards, -Manoj renunw <renunw Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 10:41:44 AM Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Dear Manoj ji,// If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives.//When would this second half of life arrive for each and every person? What do you mean by life being more fruitful?? In what way? //Shani is challenging in childhood... ......... ... On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively) , moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc.//I totally agree with the above.....since I have first hand experience of life in a boarding school, away from parents , with the commencement of Shani/Rahu/Shani dasha....at the age of 4+.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sheevani Ji,> > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered:> > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives.> > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world.> > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all.> > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world.> > Hibernation is good some times >  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> >  > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??> > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?> > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Manoj-ji, Namaste. I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj " s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best. For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy. Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create. warmest regards Sheevani , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to " grow up " . On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively), moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. > > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. > >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Sheevani <sheevani147 > > Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM > Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > >  > Dear Manoj-ji, > > Namaste, > > Thank you so much for your kind imput. > > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. > > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) > > Karka for adulthood? > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > Hibernation is good some times > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > >  > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Neelam ji, Namaste. Off the top of my head,, I would say a strong Mercury, preferably in kendra and dual signs, will keep a person youthful in looks(by aspecting lagna/lagnesh) and mind. Affliction of such a mercury can be diastrous too, indicating abuse of talent or undesirable influences on the person. A good strong moon and 4H/4L will be an added bonus. Good 5H/5L will indicate good use of intelligence. warmest regards Sheevani , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > And what factors should be found in those charts Sheevani ji? > Any idea? > > Peace and happiness are in fourth, where mother lives and moon rules! > > Regards > Neelam > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147 > > > > > > > > > What happens to those that refuse to grow-up? Keep the curiosity and joy of > > childhood alive? > > > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, I didn't say when one starts one's childhood!! :-) > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Neelam > > > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelamji, > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > Awww, dont go breaking my heart so!!! I still have lots to do! > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40>, > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > > > > > > > > > You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that > > for > > > > > every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age > > is > > > > > misery! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soniaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was > > looking > > > > for > > > > > > but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha > > sign, > > > > > > linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. > > > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > > > > > > > lagna to fourth house is childhood > > > > > > > fifth-eighth house is youth > > > > > > > ninth -twelfth is old age > > > > > > > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the > > > > best > > > > > > phase in a persons life. > > > > > > > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues > > about > > > > trend > > > > > > of life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > > > > > > > childhood, adult and old age > > > > periods > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to > > discuss?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which > > period > > > > of > > > > > > life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old > > age? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for > > childhood > > > > and > > > > > > shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, > > mars or > > > > > > venus? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one > > of > > > > his > > > > > > books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > Homepage. > > > > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dear Sheevani Ji, Depends on the chart and the person. Shani can give perseverance and a cautious approach which some times is actually better for material success than the unchecked expansion that Guru can provide. I agree Venus is a much better one to get as an young adult. But either way the Grahas bring forth the spiritual lessons needed for this Birth and is always the BEST for the individual. Becoming burdened and disillusioned and driven even to suicide can be a blessing. If you get a chance to read Eckhart Tolle's book where he describles his Life, it will illustrate this point. Regards, -Manoj Sheevani <sheevani147 Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 12:41:11 PM Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Dear Manoj-ji,Namaste.I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj"s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best.For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy.Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create.warmest regardsSheevaniancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sheevani Ji,> > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to "grow up". On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively) , moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good.> > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution.> >  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: childhood, adult and old age periods> >  > Dear Manoj-ji,> > Namaste,> > Thank you so much for your kind imput.> > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets.> > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength)> > Karka for adulthood?> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sheevani Ji,> > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered:> > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives.> > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world.> > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all.> > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world.> > > > Hibernation is good some times > >  > > Regards,> >  -Manoj> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...>> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> > > >  > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??> > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?> > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > > > warmest regards> > Sheevani> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dashayon ka khel hai muqaddar, dashayon se maar kha rahe, tum itna kyon muskura rahe ho..... I believe there is no hard and fast rule for determining good bad worst time of the time. If there is only one clue, it is the dashas one gets during such periods. regards, Mouji neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 9:54:31 PMRe: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze.RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper?We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012@ gmail.com> Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the "Universal Truth".. Though there wud be many such cases of "rags to riches" (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system.warmest regardsSheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life.> Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??> > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?> > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Manoj ji, Thanks....your reasoning is logical..hmm I 'm trying to apply it practically....??? Anyway I feel one cannot identify a particular planet to bring good/bad during certain periods of life unless, such dasha is being activated. blessings, Renu , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji, > > It is a very general statement. Moon in Pushya natives generally flower late (due to Saturn's influence the delay and Brihaspathi's influence making Pushya auspicious in general (except for marriage)). Similar reasoning can be adpoted to all Nakshatras by looking at both Planetary Lord and Diety. > > It is ofcourse only one of several things to look at. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > renunw <renunw > > Thu, January 21, 2010 10:41:44 AM > Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > >  > Dear Manoj ji, > > // If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives.// > > When would this second half of life arrive for each and every person? What do you mean by life being more fruitful?? In what way? > > //Shani is challenging in childhood... ......... ... On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively) , moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc.// > > I totally agree with the above.....since I have first hand experience of life in a boarding school, away from parents , with the commencement of Shani/Rahu/Shani dasha....at the age of 4+. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > Hibernation is good some times > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > >  > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Sheevani ji, //Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best.// I cannot agree with this...I've seen quite a few with Shani Dasha coming early in life, i.e. childhood/youth....blooming with a positive attitude. But one thing I noticed is that they have exalted Shani. blessings, Renu , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > Namaste. > > I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj " s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best. > > For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy. > > Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to " grow up " . On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively), moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. > > > > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. > > > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM > > Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > > > >  > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > Namaste, > > > > Thank you so much for your kind imput. > > > > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. > > > > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) > > > > Karka for adulthood? > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > > > Hibernation is good some times > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > >  > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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