Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Neelamji,It appears to me, I am not up to date in my knowledge of history. Can you tell me who the other two were ? Other than Feroze Gandhi?Regards, Anita--- On Thu, 21/1/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 4:24 PM In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze.RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper? We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart) RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012@ gmail.com> Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the "Universal Truth".. Though there wud be many such cases of "rags to riches" (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:>> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 dear soniaji,Can we keep the youth age from childbirth to 25yrs from 25-55 as adult age and beyond 55 as old age.kindly clarify.regards,k.gopu--- On Thu, 1/21/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdirattaRe: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 8:46 PM Hi,You can try ashtakvarga method for this.lagna to fourth house is childhoodfifth-eighth house is youthninth -twelfth is old ageAdd total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life.Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.Regards,SoniaSheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk>ancient_indian_ astrologyThu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods Namaste ji to everyone. Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. warmest regards Sheevani The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Bhai Gopuji, You may fix whatever age you feel appropriate as old age for astrological purposes. But I will consider myself as Old, only once I reach age 65.... At the moment I am " Adult Age " ... (HaHa...thats just humour so do not get serious)... regards, Bhaskar. , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear soniaji, > Can we keep the youth age from childbirth to 25yrs > from 25-55 as adult age and beyond 55 as old age. > kindly clarify. > > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: > > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta > Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 8:46 PM > Â > > > Hi, > > You can try ashtakvarga method for this. > lagna to fourth house is childhood > fifth-eighth house is youth > ninth -twelfth is old age > Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > Â Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Renuji, Namaste. Thanks for sharing your observations. I agree that some people do remain positive after overcoming hurdles in life, perhaps the exalted shani may contribute to this. It is also important to note that the following MD will be that of Mercury, and if it is strong and well placed, then the person will use his intelligence, adaptablity well and be quick to see opportunities and make most of them. If mercury is weak and afflicted, then progress is limited. warmest regards Sheevani , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > //Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and > disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best.// > > I cannot agree with this...I've seen quite a few with Shani Dasha coming early in life, i.e. childhood/youth....blooming with a positive attitude. But one thing I noticed is that they have exalted Shani. > > blessings, > > Renu > > , " Sheevani " <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj " s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best. > > > > For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy. > > > > Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to " grow up " . On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively), moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. > > > > > > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. > > > > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM > > > Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Thank you so much for your kind imput. > > > > > > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. > > > > > > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) > > > > > > Karka for adulthood? > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > > > > > Hibernation is good some times > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > > > >  > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Sheevani JI, can we take some chart and discuss on that for person who is having St Dasha in child/youth in taken chart. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Sheevani wrote: Dear Renuji, Namaste. Thanks for sharing your observations. I agree that some people do remain positive after overcoming hurdles in life, perhaps the exalted shani may contribute to this. It is also important to note that the following MD will be that of Mercury, and if it is strong and well placed, then the person will use his intelligence, adaptablity well and be quick to see opportunities and make most of them. If mercury is weak and afflicted, then progress is limited. warmest regards Sheevani , "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > //Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and > disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best.// > > I cannot agree with this...I've seen quite a few with Shani Dasha coming early in life, i.e. childhood/youth....blooming with a positive attitude. But one thing I noticed is that they have exalted Shani. > > blessings, > > Renu > > , "Sheevani" <sheevani147@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj"s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best. > > > > For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy. > > > > Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to "grow up". On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively), moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. > > > > > > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. > > > > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@> > > > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM > > > Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Thank you so much for your kind imput. > > > > > > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. > > > > > > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) > > > > > > Karka for adulthood? > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > > > > > Hibernation is good some times > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > > > >  > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Singh jiTake amitabh chart for ex.!971 till 1990 he had shani dasha where he was in his peak.RegardsGirish--- On Fri, 1/22/10, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:12 AM Dear Sheevani JI, can we take some chart and discuss on that for person who is having St Dasha in child/youth in taken chart. ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Sheevani wrote: Dear Renuji, Namaste. Thanks for sharing your observations. I agree that some people do remain positive after overcoming hurdles in life, perhaps the exalted shani may contribute to this. It is also important to note that the following MD will be that of Mercury, and if it is strong and well placed, then the person will use his intelligence, adaptablity well and be quick to see opportunities and make most of them. If mercury is weak and afflicted, then progress is limited. warmest regards Sheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > //Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and > disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best.// > > I cannot agree with this...I've seen quite a few with Shani Dasha coming early in life, i.e. childhood/youth. ...blooming with a positive attitude. But one thing I noticed is that they have exalted Shani. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sheevani" <sheevani147@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj"s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best. > > > > For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy. > > > > Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to "grow up". On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively) , moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. > > > > > > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. > > > > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Thank you so much for your kind imput. > > > > > > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. > > > > > > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) > > > > > > Karka for adulthood? > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > > > > > Hibernation is good some times > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > > > >  > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Thanks Girish JI, That i want to convey it all depends on chart selected for study. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Girish menon wrote:  Dear Singh ji Take amitabh chart for ex. !971 till 1990 he had shani dasha where he was in his peak. Regards Girish --- On Fri, 1/22/10, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:12 AM  Dear Sheevani JI, can we take some chart and discuss on that for person who is having St Dasha in child/youth in taken chart. ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Sheevani wrote:  Dear Renuji, Namaste. Thanks for sharing your observations. I agree that some people do remain positive after overcoming hurdles in life, perhaps the exalted shani may contribute to this. It is also important to note that the following MD will be that of Mercury, and if it is strong and well placed, then the person will use his intelligence, adaptablity well and be quick to see opportunities and make most of them. If mercury is weak and afflicted, then progress is limited. warmest regards Sheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sheevani ji, > > //Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and > disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best.// > > I cannot agree with this...I've seen quite a few with Shani Dasha coming early in life, i.e. childhood/youth. ...blooming with a positive attitude. But one thing I noticed is that they have exalted Shani. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sheevani" <sheevani147@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I appreciate your views but Shani Maharaj"s lessons are easier to bear in older age. Most young adults with Shani MD become frustrated, burdened and disillusioned at that age and often lose the aspirations to make their dreams come true.. Very few will get over their earlier obstacles to achieve their best. > > > > For most young adults, the materialistic bounty of Venus is important to feel successful and happy. > > > > Besides, Shani's role in old age is more to do with consolidation and downsizing. In the prime of life, you would want to expand and create. > > > > warmest regards > > Sheevani > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > I have to disagree a bit. Shani is challenging in childhood but in adult hood it can actually be very benifical. Shani makes one Mature and those who get Sahni MD during early childhood may be forced to "grow up". On the extreme cases I have seen them losing their father/parents (literlally or figuratively) , moving away to boarding school to grow up alone etc. So I would say that a well placed Shani MD as an adult should be good. > > > > > > Sonia Ji makes an excellent point about SAV. It is especially true if a planet that is placed in those houses with good BAV contribution. > > > > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 8:32:07 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj-ji, > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > Thank you so much for your kind imput. > > > > > > I have noticed that mercury Md (provided it is strong/wellplaced and unafflicted) is a bonus for childhood period, followed by ketu(which may give hiccups) and a good venus period during adulthood does make life easier.. Rahu and Shani MD's can be challenging( especially in adulthood)- depending on placements and condition of planets. > > > > > > Which Mahadashas would you consider a bonus in oldage? (assuming the good placement and strength) > > > > > > Karka for adulthood? > > > > > > warmest regards > > > Sheevani > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sheevani Ji, > > > > > > > > It is not that simple. Other things need to be considered: > > > > > > > > What Nakshatra is the Moon in? How well placed is the Moon? If Moon is in Sa's Nak and if Moon is strong, 2nd half of Life will be more fruitful. This is especially true for Pushya natives. > > > > > > > > Look at the strength of houses 1-4, 5-8, 9-12 and planets placed there. Depending on which sector is stronger, will indicate similarly. If 9-12 is strong, no matter what, the person will eventually succeed and leve his/her mark on this world. > > > > > > > > Ofcourse Dasha period is extremely crucial. Better dashas in 2nd half of life, indicates better 2nd half. Infact I would say Dashas are probably the most crucial of all. > > > > > > > > Similarly if more planets are in the visible sector 8-12 and if Dashas and chart has strength, the person will succeed visibly (ie the World will see his/her success). If more planets are in the hidden sector (1-7) it will me more of a quite success. Ofcourse same logic holds true for Failure also, many planets in 8H and afflicted can mean sudden failure through Scandals. Many planets in the 6H and afflicted could mean failure that is hidden from the world. > > > > > > > > Hibernation is good some times > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thu, January 21, 2010 7:37:22 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > > > > > >  > > > > Namaste ji to everyone. > > > > > > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > > > > > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age? > > > > > > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > > > > > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help.. > > > > > > > > warmest regards > > > > Sheevani > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Gopu Ji,What clarification do you need on this? Kindly explain your point.Regards,Sonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Dear Anita ji,The other two were Dinesh Singh and Mohd Yunus.RegardsNeelam2010/1/22 Anita R <ash.rsh55 Dear Neelamji,It appears to me, I am not up to date in my knowledge of history. Can you tell me who the other two were ? Other than Feroze Gandhi?Regards, Anita--- On Thu, 21/1/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 4:24 PM In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze.RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper? We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart) RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012@ gmail.com> Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the " Universal Truth " .. Though there wud be many such cases of " rags to riches " (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: >> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 dear Bhaskar, On the lighter side, u shud fix it to 75yrs. Looking at ur snap in the group, ur constitution reflects that u will be physically active as ur now till 75yrs. anyway i wish u beyond that. coming to my astro query, I suggest that it can be taken as average life span has 80yrs and it can be divided 1-25yrs 26-55yrs and 56 and beyond as old age. regards, k.gopu--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 3:56 PM Bhai Gopuji,You may fix whatever age you feel appropriate as old age for astrological purposes. But I will consider myself as Old, only once I reach age 65.... At the moment I am "Adult Age"...(HaHa...thats just humour so do not get serious)...regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .> wrote:>> dear soniaji,> Can we keep the youth age from childbirth to 25yrs > from 25-55 as adult age and beyond 55 as old age.> kindly clarify.> > regards,> k.gopu> > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:> > Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ....>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thursday, January 21, 2010, 8:46 PM> > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life.> Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods> > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > > > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss??> > > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > > > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus?> > > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > > > warmest regards> > Sheevani> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Dear soniaji, I was asking how do u split age as childhood, adult and old age to verify the SAV points realted to the three split ups. Sri Bhaskar has replied and I have also suggested as to how the age span can be split up. thanks, regards, k.gopu--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 6:30 PM Dear Gopu Ji,What clarification do you need on this? Kindly explain your point.Regards,Sonia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear Neelam ji,You really raked up my memory. Now I remember. I had a nice write up on the Nehru family which I searched for just before I responded to you. I am not able to find it. If I do find it , I will send it on to your personal id since it is a bit sensitive. As far as Mohammad yunus goes, this article I am talking about says Mohammad Younus shed copious tears when Sanjay Gandhi died, that too standing behind madam gandhi. I remember the picture was splashed all over the newspapers. MOhammad younus shedding more tears than Madam Gandhi.Regards,Anita--- On Fri, 22/1/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: childhood, adult and old age periods Date: Friday, 22 January, 2010, 4:10 PM Dear Anita ji,The other two were Dinesh Singh and Mohd Yunus.RegardsNeelam2010/1/22 Anita R <ash.rsh55 > Dear Neelamji,It appears to me, I am not up to date in my knowledge of history. Can you tell me who the other two were ? Other than Feroze Gandhi?Regards, Anita--- On Thu, 21/1/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: childhood, adult and old age periods ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 21 January, 2010, 4:24 PM In fact, the so-called ugly duckling Indira was literally on cloud nine when she had not one but three suitors while she was in Kashmir. And she chose Feroze.RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> Dear Meenakshi ji,Good to see you after a long time! By your logic, what's the best time for Budha? When he was a Prince or when he was a pauper? We need to define what is BEST! Anyways, that's only for argument's sake. I know what you mean. Let's take up Dhirubhai's chart. Even Indira Gandhi's had an unhappy childhood in Allahabad before Feroze gandhi came into her life. (Riches apart) RegardsNeelam2010/1/21 Meenakshi Priya <meenakshi012@ gmail.com> Dear Neelam ji, I guess on the whole it so appears but that's not really the "Universal Truth".. Though there wud be many such cases of "rags to riches" (indicating a difficult childhood) but maybe we could most prominently take up Dhirubhai's chart for the same... Regards Meenakshi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sheevani ji,You do not need astrology to check that. It is universal truth that for every human being, childhood is bliss, adulthood is worry and old age is misery! :-)RegardsNeelam 2010/1/21 Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> Dear Soniaji,Namaste,Thank you for your kind imput, I believe that was what I was looking for but was unsure if the count should begin from lagna or the mesha sign, linking the 3 cycles of life as per lunar(nakshatra) system. warmest regardsSheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: >> Hi,> > You can try ashtakvarga method for this.> lagna to fourth house is childhood> fifth-eighth house is youth> ninth -twelfth is old age> Add total points in SAV. Section having max points represents the best phase in a persons life. > Apart from this sequence of dasha from birth give vital clues about trend of life.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 21 January, 2010 8:07:22 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] childhood, adult and old age periods > > > Namaste ji to everyone.> > Koii nahi hai, phir bhi mujko na jane kiska interzar > (there is no one here, yet I know not who to await) > > Has everyone gone into hibernation or awaiting something to discuss?? > > I would like to know how to assess quickly from a chart, which period of life will be the best for the person,, childhood,adulthood or old age?> > Who would be considered karkas for each period.. Moon for childhood and shani for old age but who wears the hat for adulthood- mercury, mars or venus? > > I know BV Raman has indicated this with some calculations in one of his books, but forgetful me, cant recall the info.. pls help..> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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