Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Sreenadh JI, I am looking with different eye and not finding any controversial below are my thoughts. When we looking through time in going into past situation/environment/condition/intellect/human it become essential to deny Astrology by saint when such talk is given by saint that tells that something is critical which will be missed from human (human is concern)on accepting astrology, which most of people will loose (not all) and they need to denied the Astrology. Astrology is rather path/tool can be selected/facilitate to reach at same location/truth where human have to reach. It depends on time...i am sure if same saint came now they will suggest astrology to many people --Guru is not-essential to reach but essential for this. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Sreenadh OG wrote: Dear All, I found the following attached document in DocStoc.com. The article states the Sikh religion and Guru vani DO NOT support astrology and astrological predication. What is your opinion? Can anyone shed more light on this (possibly controversial) topic? Love and regards, Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 There may also be matters which do not appear clear to the eye. But which only the originator or the Head of the particular Sect may be knowing the real reason, purpose or purport. For instance somebody to prove that he is different and to proclaim excusive rules for his sect, he may disaasociate himself from the commonly followed norms, ideas and prevalent forms of action, knowledge and beliefs, of the era and day. For instance I may tell my followers that " You must start reading a book from the back page " . Or " do not worship stone statues " Or " Do not eat anythng which is produced below the ground " Or " Do not use weapons but use your hands to kill when situations demand " etc.etc. Got my point ? Another fact may be that from time to time depending on the less levels of productivity from the folks due to overdependance on destiny and fortunes and God, the Heads, Saints and Leaders may pass certain rules which disallow the obedience of the guidance coming from Astrology or such forms of Divinisations, and they would like the common folks to pursue their ambitions and realise their goals only through, hard work, labour and efforts - so they purposely show their disbelief in Astrology, though they may be fully knowing inside that Astrology is good. Thsi may eb a temporary rule, but since not revoked during the Life time of the saint, remains to stay forever and is in time to come, considered a Strict Dictum to be followed, though the Rule maker may have never wished so. Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh JI, > > I am looking with different eye and not finding any controversial below > are my thoughts. > > When we looking through time in going into past > situation/environment/condition/intellect/human it become essential to > deny Astrology by saint > when such talk is given by saint that tells that something is critical > which will be missed from human (human is concern)on accepting > astrology, which most of people will loose (not all) and they need to > denied the Astrology. > > Astrology is rather path/tool can be selected/facilitate to reach at > same location/truth where human have to reach. > > It depends on time...i am sure if same saint came now they will suggest > astrology to many people > > --Guru is not-essential to reach but essential for this. > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Sreenadh OG wrote: > > > > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Sreenadh OG included below] > > > > Dear All, > > I found the following attached document in DocStoc.com. The article > > states the Sikh religion and Guru vani DO NOT support astrology and > > astrological predication. What is your opinion? Can anyone shed more > > light on this (possibly controversial) topic? > > Love and regards, > > *Sreenadh* > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji Namaste. //Another fact may be that from time to time depending on the less levels of productivity from the folks due to overdependance on destiny and fortunes and God, the Heads, Saints and Leaders may pass certain rules which disallow the obedience of the guidance coming from Astrology or such forms of Divinisations, and they would like the common folks to pursue their ambitions and realise their goals only through, hard work,labour and efforts - so they purposely show their disbelief in Astrology,/// I personally belief this might have been a factor .. What is important to remember, that during the time of Guru Nanak, there were too many divisions in the society and the Moguls rule through rather brutal inconsitent laws. Baba Guru Nanak did not set out to form a new religion, but to bring peace and unity in the community. As the community then consisted of mainly muslims and hindus, he adviced a way of living which brought out the best of both religions and create a more united community. Sikhism simplified areas of the Hindu religion which was causing the greatest aggravation, which was which Diety to call God and also aimed to get rid of the caste system. Muslims felt obliged to follow their religious teaching to the letter for fear of punishment by God and being destroyed by God etc. for they dont believe in incarnation and feared the soul after death would be tortured etc Baba Nanakji, preached that God is always merciful and full of love.. All pains and sufferings were due to the individuals own karma, and some of these could be cleansed with help of good actions and help of Guru etc. I feel astrology was one of those divisory factors, which inflicted a lot of pain on indivduals who had weak charts and were treated as unlucky persons, who can be mistreated/condemned by others etc.. As usual, females who had widowhood showing in their charts etc were treated especially badly by the immediate families and community. warmest regards Sheevani , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > There may also be matters which do not appear clear to the eye. But > which only the originator or the Head of the particular Sect may be > knowing the real reason, purpose or purport. > > For instance somebody to prove that he is different and to proclaim > excusive rules for his sect, he may disaasociate himself from the > commonly followed norms, ideas and prevalent forms of action, knowledge > and beliefs, of the era and day. > > For instance I may tell my followers that " You must start reading a book > from the back page " . Or " do not worship stone statues " Or " Do not eat > anythng which is produced below the ground " Or " Do not use weapons but > use your hands to kill when situations demand " etc.etc. > > Got my point ? > > Another fact may be that from time to time depending on the less levels > of productivity from the folks due to overdependance on destiny and > fortunes and God, the Heads, Saints and Leaders may pass certain rules > which disallow the obedience of the guidance coming from Astrology or > such forms of Divinisations, and they would like the common folks to > pursue their ambitions and realise their goals only through, hard work, > labour and efforts - so they purposely show their disbelief in > Astrology, though they may be fully knowing inside that Astrology is > good. Thsi may eb a temporary rule, but since not revoked during the > Life time of the saint, remains to stay forever and is in time to come, > considered a Strict Dictum to be followed, though the Rule maker may > have never wished so. > > Bhaskar. > > > , devisigh > <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh JI, > > > > I am looking with different eye and not finding any controversial > below > > are my thoughts. > > > > When we looking through time in going into past > > situation/environment/condition/intellect/human it become essential to > > deny Astrology by saint > > when such talk is given by saint that tells that something is critical > > which will be missed from human (human is concern)on accepting > > astrology, which most of people will loose (not all) and they need to > > denied the Astrology. > > > > Astrology is rather path/tool can be selected/facilitate to reach at > > same location/truth where human have to reach. > > > > It depends on time...i am sure if same saint came now they will > suggest > > astrology to many people > > > > --Guru is not-essential to reach but essential for this. > > ------------------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Sreenadh OG wrote: > > > > > > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Sreenadh OG included below] > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I found the following attached document in DocStoc.com. The article > > > states the Sikh religion and Guru vani DO NOT support astrology and > > > astrological predication. What is your opinion? Can anyone shed more > > > light on this (possibly controversial) topic? > > > Love and regards, > > > *Sreenadh* > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Dear Dev ji, You said it well. Love and regards, Sreenadh , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh JI, > > I am looking with different eye and not finding any controversial below > are my thoughts. > > When we looking through time in going into past > situation/environment/condition/intellect/human it become essential to > deny Astrology by saint > when such talk is given by saint that tells that something is critical > which will be missed from human (human is concern)on accepting > astrology, which most of people will loose (not all) and they need to > denied the Astrology. > > Astrology is rather path/tool can be selected/facilitate to reach at > same location/truth where human have to reach. > > It depends on time...i am sure if same saint came now they will suggest > astrology to many people > > --Guru is not-essential to reach but essential for this. > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Sreenadh OG wrote: > > > > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Sreenadh OG included below] > > > > Dear All, > > I found the following attached document in DocStoc.com. The article > > states the Sikh religion and Guru vani DO NOT support astrology and > > astrological predication. What is your opinion? Can anyone shed more > > light on this (possibly controversial) topic? > > Love and regards, > > *Sreenadh* > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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