Suicide - WE are not advocating this ....

February 3, 2010

Dear Friends,

Karmic Control Planets by Manik Chand Jain

Pg 22-79 of this book is devoted to suicides

Page 22-28 he has defended Suicide.

Few Lines reproduced here ...

"Perhaps the widest erroneous notion is that suicides are generally done

by insane or dull witted persons. Just the opposite is true for the usual case,

since the average suicide tends to have a higher than normal IQ and victims

of mental diseases are notable for their low rate of death by self-destruction's.

Such mistaken ideas on the public level have,unfortunately, a parallel among

students of astrology, many of whom will be no doubt surprised

to learn that much of the traditional information about this particular

subject is in error "

" The old bromide about the cowardliness of suicide is only half a truth.

The victim is obviously more afraid to go on living, than to die. His act is not

necessarily one of cowardice for it requires more than soldierly courage to

take ones own Life. The volunteer soldier bravely faces the possibility of death,

and we say he has unusual courage. The suicide however, faces death itself,

and this sort of bravery , no matter how perverse or ill conceived, is not

cowardly, unless we are to reform our vocabulary. In some ages and civilizations,

suicide was and is an "honorable" way to die, the ethics of suicide are not a

simple matter of definition.

" For the student of Karmic astrology, what happens in the event of suicide ?

Suicide means that the soul could not accept its own choosing of its incarnation,

and it therefore, must do that particular Life over. This is very hard to do, however

because souls involved in suicide know that they have transgressed their own will,

and the weight upon their soul, is a very painful one..... The souls involved in

suicide cannot re-incarnate right away.... "

Dear friends, all said and done, we are not advocating that one must go for suicide

and not face the circumstances, rather we are focusing on the helplessness and

frustrations which made such natives choose this option, and which could have been

avoided had the native received proper support and help from those whom he wished

to do so. AT the same time, we are not justified to call those who have done so,

as weak or cowardly, because we were not in their places to experience the state of

misery and impotency of resolving the issues they were facing.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

February 3, 2010

Volunteer soldiers are/ may not be afraid to face death but are not inflicting it against their ownselves.

Weight of providence on the path the mind wants to take is sometimes too much. Most of never reach the level of our souls.

Most of us face daunting obstacles - ( the learned members may know the stars & pisition which bring about this ). Our minds logocal thinking is like two parallel rail tracks always providing a solution visible, but just beyond the horizon.

As Osho said that if you remain too much in the mind, you grow mad. It is better if you are " out of your mind ".

Whatever the respected author thinks, his opinion may not be deep enough. I have talked to several people who had people commiting suicide and spending the last few mintes in their laps. They have always shown regret at the rage which prompted their action at the spur of the moment.

Afraid of defeat ( from many things ) do not take your life for you will be a coward unable to accept defeat or to part with victory.I choose life over death.

I will live against odds with my middle finger thrust high up in the air to those who cannot tolerate my existence. For even a bullet cannot hurt me till my time comes.

To life then with all its pains, travails and happiness too.

Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Suicide - WE are not advocating this .... Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 10:31 AM