Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Friends, Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged anybody to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking , or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling myself or anybody. So will now. Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices of the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of one of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, all my friends were from high class families and society and we were frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 Crore on my Table. So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language of an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like a small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have a drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. best wishes, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Respected Bhaskar Sir,Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. Today I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'.I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to us young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'.Regards.Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits as not being right which as per age catching one must forego through own will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning in prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that whenever I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath - Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on my PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family members and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very good private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wife was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done that, I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like a couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when we go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after the movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does not eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of that if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food is also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... So the same position is translated for us too if and when people invite us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the fact is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place and paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whether he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to enjoy or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another, Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and I replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the best... which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for a women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground and be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, actions, speech or behaviours. Thanks and best wishes, Bhaskar. , Swadhin Das <wg_cdr_swadhin wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. Today I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to us young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > Regards. > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Alcohol and Bhaskar > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM >  > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged anybody > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking , > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling myself > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices of > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of one > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 Crore > > on my Table. > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language of > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like a > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have a > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Respected Bhaskar Sir,Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To be honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such a prompt reply from you.I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones which give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained; elucidating with examples from epics, scriptures and history.May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad to kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great pleasure to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no objection to such a request.With deepest regards.Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits as not being right which as per age catching one must forego through own will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning in prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that whenever I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath - Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on my PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family members and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very good private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wife was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done that, I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like a couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when we go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after the movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does not eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of that if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food is also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... So the same position is translated for us too if and when people invite us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the fact is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place and paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whether he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to enjoy or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another, Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and I replied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the best... which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for a women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground and be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, actions, speech or behaviours. Thanks and best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. Today I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to us young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > Regards. > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM >  > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged anybody > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking , > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling myself > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices of > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of one > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 Crore > > on my Table. > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language of > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like a > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have a > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskarji, If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt intoxicate ??!! We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! Best left here.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap orPunya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which areconstantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits asnot being right which as per age catching one must forego through ownwill and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings,culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning inprartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that wheneverI have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath -Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on myPC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family membersand not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. Iremember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very goodprivate gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wifewas the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done that,I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been amisfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like acouple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when wego out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after themovie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does noteat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperatedishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of thatif she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food isalso spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...So the same position is translated for us too if and when people inviteus, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as anoutcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the factis that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will notinvite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is aChartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place andpaid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whetherhe will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to enjoyor not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoymentdiffers from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another,Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and anotherAntiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and Ireplied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the best...which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk afterdrinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for awomen, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground andbe able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts,actions, speech or behaviours.Thanks and best wishes,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das<wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar Sir,>> Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I havenever contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have someinterest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. TodayI felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'.> I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to usyoung officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'.>> Regards.>> Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)>> --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM>>>>>>>> Â>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,>>>> Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challengedanybody>> to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking,>> or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God>> and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen>> me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?>>>> I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not foolingmyself>> or anybody. So will now.>>>> Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vicesof>> the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my>> first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party ofone>> of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so>> good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay,>> all my friends were from high class families and society and we were>> frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to>> Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of>> time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ?>> Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of>> whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make>> before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people>> besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.>>>> Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this.>>>> But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1Crore>> on my Table.>>>> So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one>> cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a>> son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many.>>>> When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to>> them and talk in their language which may not be the mature languageof>> an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered likea>> small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have>> some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may havea>> drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ?>>>> The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan.>>>> best wishes,>>>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Chiranjiv ji, Holy Ganges mein " Dubki lagana " aur " Nahaana " donon mein fark hai. Same way " Intoxicate hona " aur " Tari lena " in donon mein fark hai. We must learn to enjoy and not get intoxicated. I will tell you the diiference. After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group of women. After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of women. It must not be that before having 2 Beers your Wife looks ugly to one, and after 2 Beers have gone down , she begins to look beautiful.. Thats what we are against. best wishes, Bhaskar. , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, >  > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt intoxicate ??!! > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! > Best left here. > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM > > >  > > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits as > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through own > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning in > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that whenever > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath - > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on my > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family members > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very good > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wife > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done that, > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like a > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when we > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after the > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does not > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of that > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food is > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people invite > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the fact > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place and > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whether > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to enjoy > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another, > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and I > replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the best... > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for a > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground and > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, > actions, speech or behaviours. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. Today > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to us > young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > > > Regards. > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged > anybody > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking > , > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling > myself > > > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices > of > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of > one > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. > > > > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 > Crore > > > > on my Table. > > > > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > > > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language > of > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like > a > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have > a > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Rejoinder - After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group of women and when the party is over, he would excort his wife to the car, and drive the car back, Home. After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of women. 2 or at times 3 People will have to hold him and take him to his car, and probably someone else may have to drive him home, or maybe he would have to be driven in his friends car back home. And what about his wife ? Either she may accompany him to house, or get angered and come home in someone elses car seperately. Cheers, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > Holy Ganges mein " Dubki lagana " aur " Nahaana " donon mein fark hai. > > Same way " Intoxicate hona " aur " Tari lena " in donon mein fark hai. > > We must learn to enjoy and not get intoxicated. > > I will tell you the diiference. > > After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group of > women. > > After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of > women. > > It must not be that before having 2 Beers your Wife looks ugly to one, > and after 2 Beers have gone down , she begins to look beautiful.. > > Thats what we are against. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > >  > > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? > > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt > intoxicate ??!! > > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! > > Best left here. > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits > as > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through own > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning > in > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that > whenever > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath > - > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on > my > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family > members > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very good > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wife > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done > that, > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like > a > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when > we > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after the > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does > not > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of > that > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food > is > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people > invite > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the fact > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place > and > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whether > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to > enjoy > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another, > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and I > > replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the > best... > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for > a > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground > and > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, > > actions, speech or behaviours. > > > > Thanks and best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. > Today > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to > us > > young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged > > anybody > > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever > drinking > > , > > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, > God > > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not > seen > > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling > > myself > > > > > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to > vices > > of > > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of > > one > > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far > so > > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in > Bombay, > > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted > to > > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage > of > > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 > > Crore > > > > > > on my Table. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, > a > > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > > > > > > > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind > to > > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language > > of > > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered > like > > a > > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and > have > > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may > have > > a > > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh > Bacchan. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Sirs, Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled my trip. Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself. It will my pleasure too. warm regards, Bhaskar. , Swadhin Das <wg_cdr_swadhin wrote: > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To be honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such a prompt reply from you. > > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones which give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained; elucidating with examples from epics, scriptures and history. > > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad to kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great pleasure to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no objection to such a request. > > With deepest regards. > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM >  > > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits as > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through own > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning in > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that whenever > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath - > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on my > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family members > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very good > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wife > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done that, > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like a > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when we > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after the > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does not > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of that > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food is > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people invite > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the fact > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place and > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whether > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to enjoy > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another, > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and I > > replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the best... > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for a > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground and > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, > > actions, speech or behaviours. > > > > Thanks and best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. Today > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to us > > young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged > > anybody > > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking > > , > > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God > > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen > > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling > > myself > > > > > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices > > of > > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of > > one > > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so > > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, > > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to > > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of > > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. > > > > > > > > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 > > Crore > > > > > > on my Table. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a > > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > > > > > > > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to > > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language > > of > > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like > > a > > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have > > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have > > a > > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, Namaste. Live is for living.. Any kind of enjoyment is acceptable as long as you dont neglect your resonsiblity. Joy for you shud not be the the cause of sufferring for others, especially for people dear and close to you.. warmest regards Sheevani , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Rejoinder - > > After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group of > women and when the party is over, he would excort his wife to the car, > and drive the car back, Home. > > After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of > women. 2 or at times 3 People will have to hold him and take him to his > car, and probably someone else may have to drive him home, or maybe he > would have to be driven in his friends car back home. And what about his > wife ? Either she may accompany him to house, or get angered and come > home in someone elses car seperately. > > Cheers, > > Bhaskar. > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > Holy Ganges mein " Dubki lagana " aur " Nahaana " donon mein fark hai. > > > > Same way " Intoxicate hona " aur " Tari lena " in donon mein fark hai. > > > > We must learn to enjoy and not get intoxicated. > > > > I will tell you the diiference. > > > > After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group > of > > women. > > > > After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of > > women. > > > > It must not be that before having 2 Beers your Wife looks ugly to one, > > and after 2 Beers have gone down , she begins to look beautiful.. > > > > Thats what we are against. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > >  > > > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? > > > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never > felt > > intoxicate ??!! > > > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! > > > Best left here. > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, > > > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits > > as > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through > own > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning > > in > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that > > whenever > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the > aftermath > > - > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube > on > > my > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family > > members > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very > good > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My > wife > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done > > that, > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I > like > > a > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when > > we > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after > the > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does > > not > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of > > that > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food > > is > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... > > > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people > > invite > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the > fact > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place > > and > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , > whether > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to > > enjoy > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , > another, > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and > I > > > replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the > > best... > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. > > > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love > for > > a > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground > > and > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, > > > actions, speech or behaviours. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I > have > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. > > Today > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to > > us > > > young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged > > > anybody > > > > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever > > drinking > > > , > > > > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, > > God > > > > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not > > seen > > > > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling > > > myself > > > > > > > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to > > vices > > > of > > > > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had > my > > > > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party > of > > > one > > > > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far > > so > > > > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in > > Bombay, > > > > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we > were > > > > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we > shifted > > to > > > > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the > passage > > of > > > > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer > ? > > > > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best > of > > > > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > > > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > > > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 > > > Crore > > > > > > > > on my Table. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day > one > > > > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his > children, > > a > > > > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to > many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a > freind > > to > > > > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature > language > > > of > > > > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered > > like > > > a > > > > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and > > have > > > > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may > > have > > > a > > > > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh > > Bacchan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Sheevani ji, Yes true. This is practical wisdom. Life is for living. Yes. My joy shud not be the cause of suffering to another. This is also true. Enjoyment is acceptable if one is Dutiful towards his responsibilities. Yes .Exactly. thanks and regards, Bhaskar. , " Sheevani " <sheevani147 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Namaste. > > Live is for living.. Any kind of enjoyment is acceptable as long as you dont neglect your resonsiblity. Joy for you shud not be the the cause of sufferring for others, especially for people dear and close to you.. > > warmest regards > Sheevani > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Rejoinder - > > > > After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group of > > women and when the party is over, he would excort his wife to the car, > > and drive the car back, Home. > > > > After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of > > women. 2 or at times 3 People will have to hold him and take him to his > > car, and probably someone else may have to drive him home, or maybe he > > would have to be driven in his friends car back home. And what about his > > wife ? Either she may accompany him to house, or get angered and come > > home in someone elses car seperately. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > Holy Ganges mein " Dubki lagana " aur " Nahaana " donon mein fark hai. > > > > > > Same way " Intoxicate hona " aur " Tari lena " in donon mein fark hai. > > > > > > We must learn to enjoy and not get intoxicated. > > > > > > I will tell you the diiference. > > > > > > After enjoyment one would know his wife and recognise her in a group > > of > > > women. > > > > > > After intoxication one would know any woman as his wife in a group of > > > women. > > > > > > It must not be that before having 2 Beers your Wife looks ugly to one, > > > and after 2 Beers have gone down , she begins to look beautiful.. > > > > > > Thats what we are against. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > >  > > > > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? > > > > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never > > felt > > > intoxicate ??!! > > > > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! > > > > Best left here. > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, > > > > > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or > > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are > > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits > > > as > > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through > > own > > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, > > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning > > > in > > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that > > > whenever > > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the > > aftermath > > > - > > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube > > on > > > my > > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family > > > members > > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I > > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very > > good > > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My > > wife > > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done > > > that, > > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a > > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I > > like > > > a > > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when > > > we > > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after > > the > > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does > > > not > > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate > > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of > > > that > > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food > > > is > > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... > > > > > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people > > > invite > > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an > > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the > > fact > > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not > > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a > > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place > > > and > > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , > > whether > > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to > > > enjoy > > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment > > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , > > another, > > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another > > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. > > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and > > I > > > > replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the > > > best... > > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. > > > > > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after > > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love > > for > > > a > > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground > > > and > > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, > > > > actions, speech or behaviours. > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das > > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I > > have > > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some > > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. > > > Today > > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to > > > us > > > > young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged > > > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever > > > drinking > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, > > > God > > > > > > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not > > > seen > > > > > > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to > > > vices > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had > > my > > > > > > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party > > of > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far > > > so > > > > > > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in > > > Bombay, > > > > > > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we > > were > > > > > > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we > > shifted > > > to > > > > > > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the > > passage > > > of > > > > > > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer > > ? > > > > > > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best > > of > > > > > > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > > > > > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > > > > > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 > > > > Crore > > > > > > > > > > on my Table. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day > > one > > > > > > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his > > children, > > > a > > > > > > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to > > many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a > > freind > > > to > > > > > > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature > > language > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered > > > like > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and > > > have > > > > > > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may > > > have > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh > > > Bacchan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 That's the beaty of nipuna yoga in 11th house involving lagna and 11L....Cheers,gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sirs,> > Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled my> trip.> > Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself.> > It will my pleasure too.> > warm regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , Swadhin Das> wg_cdr_swadhin@ wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> >> > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To be> honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such a> prompt reply from you.> >> > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the> numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones which> give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained; elucidating> with examples from epics, scriptures and history.> >> > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad to> kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great pleasure> to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no objection> to such a request.> >> > With deepest regards.> >> > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> >> > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,> >> >> >> > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or> >> > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are> >> > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits> as> >> > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through own> >> > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings,> >> > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning> in> >> > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that> whenever> >> > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath> -> >> > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on> my> >> > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family> members> >> > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I> >> > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very good> >> > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wife> >> > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done> that,> >> > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a> >> > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like> a> >> > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when> we> >> > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after the> >> > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does> not> >> > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate> >> > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of> that> >> > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food> is> >> > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...> >> >> >> > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people> invite> >> > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an> >> > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the fact> >> > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not> >> > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a> >> > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place> and> >> > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whether> >> > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to> enjoy> >> > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment> >> > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another,> >> > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another> >> > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what.> >> > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and I> >> > replied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the> best...> >> > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.> >> >> >> > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after> >> > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for> a> >> > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground> and> >> > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts,> >> > actions, speech or behaviours.> >> >> >> > Thanks and best wishes,> >> >> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> >> > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:> >> > >> >> > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> >> > >> >> > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I have> >> > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some> >> > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me.> Today> >> > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'.> >> > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to> us> >> > young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'.> >> > >> >> > > Regards.> >> > >> >> > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> >> > >> >> > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> >> > >> >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> >> > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Â> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Dear Friends,> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged> >> > anybody> >> > >> >> > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever> drinking> >> > ,> >> > >> >> > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet,> God> >> > >> >> > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not> seen> >> > >> >> > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling> >> > myself> >> > >> >> > > or anybody. So will now.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to> vices> >> > of> >> > >> >> > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my> >> > >> >> > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of> >> > one> >> > >> >> > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far> so> >> > >> >> > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in> Bombay,> >> > >> >> > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were> >> > >> >> > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted> to> >> > >> >> > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage> of> >> > >> >> > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ?> >> > >> >> > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of> >> > >> >> > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make> >> > >> >> > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people> >> > >> >> > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer> this.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1> >> > Crore> >> > >> >> > > on my Table.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one> >> > >> >> > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children,> a> >> > >> >> > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind> to> >> > >> >> > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language> >> > of> >> > >> >> > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered> like> >> > a> >> > >> >> > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and> have> >> > >> >> > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may> have> >> > a> >> > >> >> > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ?> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh> Bacchan.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > best wishes,> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Bhaskar.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> >> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> http://in./> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Sir, Whats the beauty and where ? Any beauty if connected to me, I would love to know. Can you kindly elaborate a little Sir. kind regards, Bhaskar. , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > That's the beaty of nipuna yoga in 11th house involving lagna and > 11L.... > Cheers, > gopi. > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled > my > > trip. > > > > Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself. > > > > It will my pleasure too. > > > > warm regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , Swadhin Das > > wg_cdr_swadhin@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > > > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To be > > honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such a > > prompt reply from you. > > > > > > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the > > numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones > which > > give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained; > elucidating > > with examples from epics, scriptures and history. > > > > > > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad to > > kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great pleasure > > to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no objection > > to such a request. > > > > > > With deepest regards. > > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or > > > > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which are > > > > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits > > as > > > > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through > own > > > > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings, > > > > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning > > in > > > > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that > > whenever > > > > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the > aftermath > > - > > > > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube > on > > my > > > > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family > > members > > > > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I > > > > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very > good > > > > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My > wife > > > > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done > > that, > > > > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been a > > > > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I > like > > a > > > > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when > > we > > > > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after > the > > > > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does > > not > > > > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperate > > > > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of > > that > > > > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food > > is > > > > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to... > > > > > > > > > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people > > invite > > > > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an > > > > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the > fact > > > > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will not > > > > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a > > > > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place > > and > > > > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , > whether > > > > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to > > enjoy > > > > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoyment > > > > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , > another, > > > > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another > > > > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. > > > > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and > I > > > > > > replied " Jaroor baithenge kisi din " . And he has promised me the > > best... > > > > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa. > > > > > > > > > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after > > > > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love > for > > a > > > > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground > > and > > > > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts, > > > > > > actions, speech or behaviours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das > > > > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I > have > > > > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some > > > > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. > > Today > > > > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'. > > > > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to > > us > > > > > > young officers then. " Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged > > > > > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever > > drinking > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, > > God > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not > > seen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to > > vices > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party > of > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in > > Bombay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we > were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we > shifted > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the > passage > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 > > > > > > Crore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on my Table. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day > one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his > children, > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to > many. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a > freind > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature > language > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered > > like > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may > > have > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh > > Bacchan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > http://in./ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 The beauty is you and the question of where is concerned is FRIENDS which is 11th house as we all know.!11L(friend) in his own with L/L(self) in nipuna yoga is the BEAUTY with money(2L) and friends(11L)...Love and regards,gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Sir,> > Whats the beauty and where ? Any beauty if connected to me, I would love> to know.> > Can you kindly elaborate a little Sir.> > kind regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > That's the beaty of nipuna yoga in 11th house involving lagna and> > 11L....> > Cheers,> > gopi.> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > >> > > Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled> > my> > > trip.> > >> > > Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself.> > >> > > It will my pleasure too.> > >> > > warm regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , Swadhin Das> > > wg_cdr_swadhin@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > >> > > > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To> be> > > honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such> a> > > prompt reply from you.> > > >> > > > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the> > > numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones> > which> > > give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained;> > elucidating> > > with examples from epics, scriptures and history.> > > >> > > > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad> to> > > kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great> pleasure> > > to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no> objection> > > to such a request.> > > >> > > > With deepest regards.> > > >> > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > >> > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or> > > >> > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which> are> > > >> > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain> habits> > > as> > > >> > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through> > own> > > >> > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social> bindings,> > > >> > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no> meaning> > > in> > > >> > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that> > > whenever> > > >> > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the> > aftermath> > > -> > > >> > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube> > on> > > my> > > >> > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family> > > members> > > >> > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I> > > >> > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very> > good> > > >> > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My> > wife> > > >> > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done> > > that,> > > >> > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been> a> > > >> > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I> > like> > > a> > > >> > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them> when> > > we> > > >> > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after> > the> > > >> > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple> does> > > not> > > >> > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order> seperate> > > >> > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top> of> > > that> > > >> > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our> food> > > is> > > >> > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people> > > invite> > > >> > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an> > > >> > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the> > fact> > > >> > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will> not> > > >> > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a> > > >> > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my> place> > > and> > > >> > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me ,> > whether> > > >> > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to> > > enjoy> > > >> > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to> enjoyment> > > >> > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels ,> > another,> > > >> > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another> > > >> > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on> what.> > > >> > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks> and> > I> > > >> > > > replied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the> > > best...> > > >> > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after> > > >> > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love> > for> > > a> > > >> > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the> ground> > > and> > > >> > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by> thoughts,> > > >> > > > actions, speech or behaviours.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks and best wishes,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > >> > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I> > have> > > >> > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some> > > >> > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me.> > > Today> > > >> > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about> 'drinking'.> > > >> > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice> to> > > us> > > >> > > > young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk> is'.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Regards.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > >> > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged> > > >> > > > anybody> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever> > > drinking> > > >> > > > ,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so,> yet,> > > God> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have> not> > > seen> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not> fooling> > > >> > > > myself> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > or anybody. So will now.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to> > > vices> > > >> > > > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had> > my> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding> party> > of> > > >> > > > one> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So> far> > > so> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in> > > Bombay,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we> > were> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we> > shifted> > > to> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the> > passage> > > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a> astrologer> > ?> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the> best> > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to> make> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary> people> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer> > > this.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of> Rs.1> > > >> > > > Crore> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > on my Table.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day> > one> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his> > children,> > > a> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to> > many.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a> > freind> > > to> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature> > language> > > >> > > > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear> pampered> > > like> > > >> > > > a> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes> and> > > have> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he> may> > > have> > > >> > > > a> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life> ?> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh> > > Bacchan.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it> NOW!> > > >> > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > Homepage.> > > http://in./> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Sir, Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. RegardsKulbir Bains gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 6:56:00 AM Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar The beauty is you and the question of where is concerned is FRIENDS which is 11th house as we all know.!11L(friend) in his own with L/L(self) in nipuna yoga is the BEAUTY with money(2L) and friends(11L) ...Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Sir,> > Whats the beauty and where ? Any beauty if connected to me, I would love> to know.> > Can you kindly elaborate a little Sir.> > kind regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > That's the beaty of nipuna yoga in 11th house involving lagna and> > 11L....> > Cheers,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > >> > > Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled> > my> > > trip.> > >> > > Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself.> > >> > > It will my pleasure too.> > >> > > warm regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > wg_cdr_swadhin@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > >> > > > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To> be> > > honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such> a> > > prompt reply from you..> > > >> > > > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the> > > numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones> > which> > > give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained;> > elucidating> > > with examples from epics, scriptures and history.> > > >> > > > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad> to> > > kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great> pleasure> > > to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no> objection> > > to such a request.> > > >> > > > With deepest regards.> > > >> > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > >> > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or> > > >> > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which> are> > > >> > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain> habits> > > as> > > >> > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through> > own> > > >> > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social> bindings,> > > >> > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no> meaning> > > in> > > >> > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that> > > whenever> > > >> > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the> > aftermath> > > -> > > >> > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube> > on> > > my> > > >> > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family> > > members> > > >> > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I> > > >> > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very> > good> > > >> > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My> > wife> > > >> > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done> > > that,> > > >> > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been> a> > > >> > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I> > like> > > a> > > >> > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them> when> > > we> > > >> > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after> > the> > > >> > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple> does> > > not> > > >> > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order> seperate> > > >> > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top> of> > > that> > > >> > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our> food> > > is> > > >> > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people> > > invite> > > >> > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an> > > >> > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the> > fact> > > >> > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will> not> > > >> > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a> > > >> > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my> place> > > and> > > >> > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me ,> > whether> > > >> > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to> > > enjoy> > > >> > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to> enjoyment> > > >> > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels ,> > another,> > > >> > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another> > > >> > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on> what.> > > >> > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks> and> > I> > > >> > > > replied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the> > > best...> > > >> > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after> > > >> > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love> > for> > > a> > > >> > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the> ground> > > and> > > >> > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by> thoughts,> > > >> > > > actions, speech or behaviours.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanks and best wishes,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > >> > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I> > have> > > >> > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some> > > >> > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me.> > > Today> > > >> > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about> 'drinking'.> > > >> > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice> to> > > us> > > >> > > > young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk> is'.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Regards.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com> > > >> > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged> > > >> > > > anybody> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever> > > drinking> > > >> > > > ,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so,> yet,> > > God> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have> not> > > seen> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not> fooling> > > >> > > > myself> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > or anybody. So will now.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to> > > vices> > > >> > > > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had> > my> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding> party> > of> > > >> > > > one> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So> far> > > so> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > good.. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in> > > Bombay,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we> > were> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we> > shifted> > > to> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the> > passage> > > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a> astrologer> > ?> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the> best> > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to> make> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary> people> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer> > > this.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of> Rs.1> > > >> > > > Crore> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > on my Table.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day> > one> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his> > children,> > > a> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to> > many.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a> > freind> > > to> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature> > language> > > >> > > > of> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear> pampered> > > like> > > >> > > > a> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes> and> > > have> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he> may> > > have> > > >> > > > a> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life> ?> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh> > > Bacchan.> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Bhaskar..> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it> NOW!> > > >> > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Sir, Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai JudaKhili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka NashaHava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka NashaKahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka NashaNasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti BotalMaikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti HulchulNasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti BotalNashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao Zara RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AMRe: Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Dear Bhaskarji, If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt intoxicate ??!! We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! Best left here.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskarancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap orPunya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which areconstantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain habits asnot being right which as per age catching one must forego through ownwill and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social bindings,culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no meaning inprartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that wheneverI have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the aftermath -Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube on myPC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family membersand not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. Iremember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very goodprivate gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My wifewas the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done that,I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been amisfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I like acouple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them when wego out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after themovie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple does noteat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order seperatedishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top of thatif she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our food isalso spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...So the same position is translated for us too if and when people inviteus, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as anoutcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the factis that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will notinvite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is aChartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my place andpaid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me , whetherhe will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to enjoyor not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to enjoymentdiffers from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels , another,Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and anotherAntiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on what. Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks and Ireplied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the best...which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk afterdrinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love for awomen, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the ground andbe able to control himself after getting drunk whether by thoughts,actions, speech or behaviours.Thanks and best wishes,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das<wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar Sir,>> Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I havenever contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have someinterest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me. TodayI felt like replying to you as you have discussed about 'drinking'.> I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice to usyoung officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk is'.>> Regards.>> Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)>> --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM>>>>>>>> Â>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,>>>> Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challengedanybody>> to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking,>> or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God>> and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen>> me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?>>>> I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not foolingmyself>> or anybody. So will now.>>>> Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vicesof>> the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my>> first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party ofone>> of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so>> good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay,>> all my friends were from high class families and society and we were>> frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to>> Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of>> time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ?>> Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of>> whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make>> before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people>> besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.>>>> Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this.>>>> But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1Crore>> on my Table.>>>> So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one>> cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a>> son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many.>>>> When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to>> them and talk in their language which may not be the mature languageof>> an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered likea>> small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have>> some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may havea>> drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ?>>>> The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan.>>>> best wishes,>>>> Bhaskar.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 A glimpse of intoxicated stage; RegardsKulbir Bains Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 9:19:30 AMRe: Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Sir, Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai JudaKhili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka NashaHava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka NashaKahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka NashaNasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti BotalMaikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti HulchulNasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti BotalNashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao Zara RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Dear Bhaskarji, If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt intoxicate ??!! We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! Best left here.Chiranjiv Mehta The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Kulbir,nice.But who is the beholder?here it is YOU!!By the way can you give your birthdata?if you have no objection only.You could even send it to my mail, as you please.....Love and regards,gopi. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Sir,> Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > Wed, 3 February, 2010 6:56:00 AM> Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> >  > The beauty is you and the question of where is concerned is FRIENDS which is 11th house as we all know.!11L(friend) in his own with L/L(self) in nipuna yoga is the BEAUTY with money(2L) and friends(11L) ...> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Sir,> > > > Whats the beauty and where ? Any beauty if connected to me, I would love> > to know.> > > > Can you kindly elaborate a little Sir.> > > > kind regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > That's the beaty of nipuna yoga in 11th house involving lagna and> > > 11L....> > > Cheers,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > >> > > > Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled> > > my> > > > trip.> > > >> > > > Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself.> > > >> > > > It will my pleasure too.> > > >> > > > warm regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > > wg_cdr_swadhin@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > > >> > > > > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To> > be> > > > honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such> > a> > > > prompt reply from you.> > > > >> > > > > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the> > > > numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones> > > which> > > > give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained;> > > elucidating> > > > with examples from epics, scriptures and history.> > > > >> > > > > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad> > to> > > > kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great> > pleasure> > > > to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no> > objection> > > > to such a request.> > > > >> > > > > With deepest regards.> > > > >> > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > > >> > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or> > > > >> > > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which> > are> > > > >> > > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain> > habits> > > > as> > > > >> > > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through> > > own> > > > >> > > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social> > bindings,> > > > >> > > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no> > meaning> > > > in> > > > >> > > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that> > > > whenever> > > > >> > > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the> > > aftermath> > > > -> > > > >> > > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube> > > on> > > > my> > > > >> > > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family> > > > members> > > > >> > > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I> > > > >> > > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very> > > good> > > > >> > > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My> > > wife> > > > >> > > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done> > > > that,> > > > >> > > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been> > a> > > > >> > > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I> > > like> > > > a> > > > >> > > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them> > when> > > > we> > > > >> > > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after> > > the> > > > >> > > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple> > does> > > > not> > > > >> > > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order> > seperate> > > > >> > > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top> > of> > > > that> > > > >> > > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our> > food> > > > is> > > > >> > > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people> > > > invite> > > > >> > > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an> > > > >> > > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the> > > fact> > > > >> > > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will> > not> > > > >> > > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a> > > > >> > > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my> > place> > > > and> > > > >> > > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me ,> > > whether> > > > >> > > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to> > > > enjoy> > > > >> > > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to> > enjoyment> > > > >> > > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels ,> > > another,> > > > >> > > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another> > > > >> > > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on> > what.> > > > >> > > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks> > and> > > I> > > > >> > > > > replied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the> > > > best...> > > > >> > > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after> > > > >> > > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love> > > for> > > > a> > > > >> > > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the> > ground> > > > and> > > > >> > > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by> > thoughts,> > > > >> > > > > actions, speech or behaviours.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and best wishes,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > > >> > > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I> > > have> > > > >> > > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some> > > > >> > > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me.> > > > Today> > > > >> > > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about> > 'drinking'.> > > > >> > > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice> > to> > > > us> > > > >> > > > > young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk> > is'.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Regards.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > >> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > >> > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged> > > > >> > > > > anybody> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever> > > > drinking> > > > >> > > > > ,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so,> > yet,> > > > God> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have> > not> > > > seen> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not> > fooling> > > > >> > > > > myself> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > or anybody. So will now.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to> > > > vices> > > > >> > > > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had> > > my> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding> > party> > > of> > > > >> > > > > one> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So> > far> > > > so> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in> > > > Bombay,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we> > > were> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we> > > shifted> > > > to> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the> > > passage> > > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a> > astrologer> > > ?> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the> > best> > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to> > make> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary> > people> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer> > > > this.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of> > Rs.1> > > > >> > > > > Crore> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > on my Table.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day> > > one> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his> > > children,> > > > a> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to> > > many.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a> > > freind> > > > to> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature> > > language> > > > >> > > > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear> > pampered> > > > like> > > > >> > > > > a> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes> > and> > > > have> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he> > may> > > > have> > > > >> > > > > a> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life> > ?> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh> > > > Bacchan.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 hahahaha. What a video Dear Kulbirji. Never seen anything like this. He can beat all our Shastriya sangeet walas. But how on earth did you manage to locate this video on U Tube ? and what were the search words you put - just wondering. This really displays and portrays an intoxicated state so well, without having to describe it. By the way, this guy can sing very well, and now I am saying this seriously. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > A glimpse of intoxicated stage; > > > Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________ > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb > > Wed, 3 February, 2010 9:19:30 AM > Re: Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > >  > Sir, > Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai Juda > Khili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka Nasha > Hava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka Nasha > Kahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka Nasha > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti Botal > Maikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti Hulchul > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti Botal > Nashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao Zara > Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________ > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > >  > Dear Bhaskarji, > > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt intoxicate ??!! > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! > Best left here. > > Chiranjiv Mehta > ________________________________ > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Bhaskarji, Aik Astrological sher yaad aa raha hai. Zindagi jeene ko thi to jee maine Kismat mein likha tha pee, to pee maine Main na peeta to tera likha galat ho jaata Likhe tere ko nibhaya, Kya khata ki maine. regds Dev , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged anybody > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking , > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling myself > or anybody. So will now. > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices of > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of one > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 Crore > on my Table. > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language of > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like a > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have a > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Wah Wah kya khub kahi aapne..... anand aa gaya yeh sher padh kar. Tahe dil se Dhanyavaad.. , " axeplex " <axeplex wrote: > > Bhaskarji, > > Aik Astrological sher yaad aa raha hai. > > Zindagi jeene ko thi to jee maine > Kismat mein likha tha pee, to pee maine > Main na peeta to tera likha galat ho jaata > Likhe tere ko nibhaya, Kya khata ki maine. > > regds > Dev > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged anybody > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever drinking , > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so, yet, God > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have not seen > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ? > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not fooling myself > > or anybody. So will now. > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to vices of > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had my > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding party of one > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So far so > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in Bombay, > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we were > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we shifted to > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the passage of > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a astrologer ? > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the best of > > whiskies. And keep my limits. Also know what incantations to make > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary people > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters. > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer this. > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of Rs.1 Crore > > on my Table. > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day one > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his children, a > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to many. > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a freind to > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature language of > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear pampered like a > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes and have > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he may have a > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life ? > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh Bacchan. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Bhaskar Ji, I think you will have to study my kundali. Believe me all such outstanding things (including your goodself) reach me automatically. Sir, just try an experiment, go to a lonely place or lock the room (tell your family members not to worry) now try to imitate him at highest pitch. If you can stand on your feet all along (not many can). you will feel Ecstasy. RegardsKulbir Bains Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 10:45:45 PM Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar hahahaha. What a video Dear Kulbirji..Never seen anything like this. He can beat all our Shastriya sangeetwalas.But how on earth did you manage to locate this video on U Tube ? andwhat were the search words you put - just wondering. This reallydisplays and portrays an intoxicated state so well, without having todescribe it.By the way, this guy can sing very well, and now I am saying thisseriously.best wishes,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb<lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> A glimpse of intoxicated stage;>> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Rw2Iz-k8Uf0> Regards> Kulbir Bains>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@. ..> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wed, 3 February, 2010 9:19:30 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar>> Â> Sir,> Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai Juda> Khili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka Nasha> Hava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka Nasha> Kahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka Nasha> Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti Botal> Maikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti Hulchul> Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti Botal> Nashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao ZaraÂ> Regards> Kulbir Bains>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar>> Â> Dear Bhaskarji,>> If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ?> I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never feltintoxicate ??!!> We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication !> Best left here.>> Chiranjiv Mehta>>>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __>> ____________ _________ _________ __> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.>>>> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Sir, Why Not! It is an honour for me. Date of Birth 15-02-1971, Time of Birth 08:50 am., Place of Birth Chandigarh.RegardsKulbir Bains gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 10:07:02 PM Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Dear Kulbir,nice.But who is the beholder?here it is YOU!!By the way can you give your birthdata?if you have no objection only.You could even send it to my mail, as you please.....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@. ..> wrote:>> Sir,> Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wed, 3 February, 2010 6:56:00 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> >  > The beauty is you and the question of where is concerned is FRIENDS which is 11th house as we all know.!11L(friend) in his own with L/L(self) in nipuna yoga is the BEAUTY with money(2L) and friends(11L) ...> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> wrote:> >> > > > Sir,> > > > Whats the beauty and where ? Any beauty if connected to me, I would love> > to know.> > > > Can you kindly elaborate a little Sir.> > > > kind regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > That's the beaty of nipuna yoga in 11th house involving lagna and> > > 11L....> > > Cheers,> > > gopi.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > >> > > > Was actually supposed to come this week itself, but have rescheduled> > > my> > > > trip.> > > >> > > > Thanks for the invite. Will definitely inform your goodself.> > > >> > > > It will my pleasure too.> > > >> > > > warm regards,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > > wg_cdr_swadhin@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > > >> > > > > Many many thanks for your kind and extremely instructive reply.To> > be> > > > honest, I was very pleasantly surprised and thrilled to receive such> > a> > > > prompt reply from you.> > > > >> > > > > I have known you to be an erudite and practical person from the> > > > numerous mails of yours that I enjoy reading, especially the ones> > > which> > > > give a deep insight into human nature that you have gained;> > > elucidating> > > > with examples from epics, scriptures and history.> > > > >> > > > > May I request you Sir, that if you ever happen to visit Ahmedabad> > to> > > > kindly let me know through a line by mail. It will be a great> > pleasure> > > > to make your acquaintance in person, that is, if you have no> > objection> > > > to such a request.> > > > >> > > > > With deepest regards.> > > > >> > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > > >> > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:13 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Wg Cdr Shri Swadhin Das ji,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thank You for these views. They match mines. Good or bad, Paap or> > > > >> > > > > Punya, Evil or Angelic, are all terms, the definitions of which> > are> > > > >> > > > > constantly being updated.. But the fact remains about certain> > habits> > > > as> > > > >> > > > > not being right which as per age catching one must forego through> > > own> > > > >> > > > > will and desire, and not by compulsion or force of social> > bindings,> > > > >> > > > > culture or unecessary forced upon moral norms, which have no> > meaning> > > > in> > > > >> > > > > prartical approach of human existence. My wife will vouch that> > > > whenever> > > > >> > > > > I have drunk 8 out of 10 times, I have been watching in the> > > aftermath> > > > -> > > > >> > > > > Bhajans of Suresh Agarwala either on TV or, downloaded on You tube> > > on> > > > my> > > > >> > > > > PC. We are decent people and must behave like responsible family> > > > members> > > > >> > > > > and not get so much intoxicated that our senses are overpowered. I> > > > >> > > > > remember this year on New Year Eve I was at Jaipur and had a very> > > good> > > > >> > > > > private gathering of 5-7 couples at theplace I was putting up. My> > > wife> > > > >> > > > > was the only lady who was not holding a glass. If even I had done> > > > that,> > > > >> > > > > I would not have been a part of that gathering and would have been> > a> > > > >> > > > > misfit absulutely not only on this occasion but on others too. I> > > like> > > > a> > > > >> > > > > couple in Bombay very much and close to them, and remember them> > when> > > > we> > > > >> > > > > go out for a movie or a dinner, or as is customary a dinner after> > > the> > > > >> > > > > movie, but cannot invite them, because the wife in this couple> > does> > > > not> > > > >> > > > > eat Onions or Garlic, and to go to a restauarant and order> > seperate> > > > >> > > > > dishes for them and for us is too much of a headache, and on top> > of> > > > that> > > > >> > > > > if she comments that keep your dish away its smelling, then our> > food> > > > is> > > > >> > > > > also spoilt. So we never invite them though we want to...> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > So the same position is translated for us too if and when people> > > > invite> > > > >> > > > > us, and we cannot mingle with them, then we are considered as an> > > > >> > > > > outcaste and people stop inviting you or remembering you. And the> > > fact> > > > >> > > > > is that I enjoy my drinks too, and not just because people will> > not> > > > >> > > > > invite me if I dont drink. In fact last evening a Client who is a> > > > >> > > > > Chartered accountant(Very succesfull) by profession came to my> > place> > > > and> > > > >> > > > > paid my fees of Rs.2500- and finally before leaving asked me ,> > > whether> > > > >> > > > > he will rise in Life from now on, and will he have enough money to> > > > enjoy> > > > >> > > > > or not. I told him that , the scale of measure of money to> > enjoyment> > > > >> > > > > differs from person to person. One may prefer Jack Daniels ,> > > another,> > > > >> > > > > Chivas Regal, another 100 Pipers, another Signature and another> > > > >> > > > > Antiquity. So that depends on you how much you spend daily on> > what.> > > > >> > > > > Well he did invite me to sit with him for one evening for drinks> > and> > > I> > > > >> > > > > replied "Jaroor baithenge kisi din". And he has promised me the> > > > best...> > > > >> > > > > which I had already specified before hand. HaHa.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The point which you made says it all. One must not get drunk after> > > > >> > > > > drinking, whether its whisky, whether its wealth, whether its Love> > > for> > > > a> > > > >> > > > > women, whatever. One must have his feet firmly planted on the> > ground> > > > and> > > > >> > > > > be able to control himself after getting drunk whether by> > thoughts,> > > > >> > > > > actions, speech or behaviours.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and best wishes,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Swadhin Das> > > > >> > > > > <wg_cdr_swadhin@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Respected Bhaskar Sir,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Though I have been a member in this group for close to a year I> > > have> > > > >> > > > > never contributed anything as I am not competent to. I have some> > > > >> > > > > interest in astrology and the discussions keep educating me.> > > > Today> > > > >> > > > > I felt like replying to you as you have discussed about> > 'drinking'.> > > > >> > > > > > I am reminded of one of my earliest commanding officer's advice> > to> > > > us> > > > >> > > > > young officers then. "Drinking is not an offence, getting drunk> > is'.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Regards.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Wg Cdr Swadhin Das(Retd)> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > >> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Alcohol and Bhaskar> > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > >> > > > > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:29 PM> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Since this topic was triggered yesterday, and I have challenged> > > > >> > > > > anybody> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > to prove among the Forum members that they have seen me ever> > > > drinking> > > > >> > > > > ,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > or eating meat, and of course none will be able to prove so,> > yet,> > > > God> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > and Myself know the truth, is it not ? Just because none have> > not> > > > seen> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > me doing this does not make me a saint, does it ?> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > I have always prided myself in uttering the truth and not> > fooling> > > > >> > > > > myself> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > or anybody. So will now.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Living in Bombay for close to 48 years and not being exposed to> > > > vices> > > > >> > > > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > the high society, would be a fools thinking and statement. I had> > > my> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > first taste of Wine at age of 16 when attending the wedding> > party> > > of> > > > >> > > > > one> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > of my Catholic secretaries who worked in my Fathers office. So> > far> > > > so> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > good. Then Having studied in the best Roman Catholic School in> > > > Bombay,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > all my friends were from high class families and society and we> > > were> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > frequent to drinking Beer in those years. As we grew up, we> > > shifted> > > > to> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Hard drinks like Whisky and it was a way of Life during the> > > passage> > > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > time. What now, after having joined the profession of a> > astrologer> > > ?> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Yes I do drink occasionally, but not a drunkard. I drink the> > best> > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > whiskies. And keep my limits.. Also know what incantations to> > make> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > before I take my first sip. And do not drink with ordinary> > people> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > besides me. The company matters. The occasion matters.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Now does this make me a evil man ? I leave this to you to answer> > > > this.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > But meat , you cant make me eat even if You keep hard Cash of> > Rs.1> > > > >> > > > > Crore> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > on my Table.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > So the truth is that an astrologer yes we are, but the whole day> > > one> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > cannot sit in the astrologers seat, he is a father to his> > > children,> > > > a> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > son to his mother, a Husband to his wife, and also a friend to> > > many.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > When he will sit with his children he will don the role of a> > > freind> > > > to> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > them and talk in their language which may not be the mature> > > language> > > > >> > > > > of> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > an astrologer. When he is with his mother he will appear> > pampered> > > > like> > > > >> > > > > a> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > small child, when he is with his wife he may open his clothes> > and> > > > have> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > some union with his wife, whemn he is a rfeind to someone, he> > may> > > > have> > > > >> > > > > a> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > drink with him. Are we not playing so many roles ina single Life> > ?> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > The point is to play your role well and be good. Like Amitabh> > > > Bacchan.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Kulbir ji, //all such outstanding things (including your goodself...// Sir, please do not include me in that List of oustanding things which includes that singer in that U Tube Video... I am a most ordinary person, and would not like to become like him...Please. Is that Your goodself by the way ? If so, then I must appreciate that You sing very well. I cannot imitate him, because already my family people call me " paagal aadmi " and if I do this, then they will waste not a minute, in transferring me to some assylum. They are just waiting for a reason to remove me. regards, Bhaskar. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > I think you will have to study my kundali.. > Believe me all such outstanding things (including your goodself) reach me automatically. > Sir, just try an experiment, go to a lonely place or lock the room (tell your family members not to worry) now try to imitate him at highest pitch. > If you can stand on your feet all along (not many can). you will feel Ecstasy. >  Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 3 February, 2010 10:45:45 PM > Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > >  > > hahahaha. What a video Dear Kulbirji. > > Never seen anything like this. He can beat all our Shastriya sangeet > walas. > > But how on earth did you manage to locate this video on U Tube ? and > what were the search words you put - just wondering. This really > displays and portrays an intoxicated state so well, without having to > describe it. > > By the way, this guy can sing very well, and now I am saying this > seriously. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb > <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > A glimpse of intoxicated stage; > > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Rw2Iz-k8Uf0 > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ .. > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Wed, 3 February, 2010 9:19:30 AM > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > >  > > Sir, > > Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai Juda > > Khili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka Nasha > > Hava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka Nasha > > Kahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka Nasha > > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti Botal > > Maikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti Hulchul > > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti Botal > > Nashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao Zara > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Wed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AM > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar > > > >  > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ? > > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never felt > intoxicate ??!! > > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication ! > > Best left here. > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in.. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, I hold your goodself in high esteem. I was just telling about SUFI method for ecstasy. By the way It is said EVERY GENIUS IS A LITTLE MAD. RegardsKulbir Bains Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thu, 4 February, 2010 5:43:18 AM Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar Dear Kulbir ji,//all such outstanding things (including your goodself.../ /Sir, please do not include me in that List of oustanding things whichincludes that singer in that U Tube Video... I am a most ordinaryperson, and would not like to become like him...Please.Is that Your goodself by the way ? If so, then I must appreciate thatYou sing very well.I cannot imitate him, because already my family people call me "paagalaadmi" and if I do this, then they will waste not a minute, intransferring me to some assylum. They are just waiting for a reason toremove me.regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb<lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji,> I think you will have to study my kundali..> Believe me all such outstanding things (including yourgoodself) reach me automatically.> Sir, just try an experiment, go to a lonely place or lock the room(tell your family members not to worry) now try to imitate himÂat highest pitch.> If you can stand on your feet all along (not many can). you will feelEcstasy.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Wed, 3 February, 2010 10:45:45 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar>> Â>> hahahaha. What a video Dear Kulbirji.>> Never seen anything like this. He can beat all our Shastriya sangeet> walas.>> But how on earth did you manage to locate this video on U Tube ? and> what were the search words you put - just wondering. This really> displays and portrays an intoxicated state so well, without having to> describe it.>> By the way, this guy can sing very well, and now I am saying this> seriously.>> best wishes,>> Bhaskar.>> ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > A glimpse of intoxicated stage;> >> > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Rw2Iz-k8Uf0> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ ..> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Wed, 3 February, 2010 9:19:30 AM> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> >> > Â> > Sir,> > Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai Juda> > Khili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka Nasha> > Hava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka Nasha> > Kahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka Nasha> > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti Botal> > Maikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti Hulchul> > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti Botal> > Nashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao ZaraÂ> > Regards> > Kulbir Bains> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Wed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AM> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> >> > Â> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ?> > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I neverfelt> intoxicate ??!!> > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication !> > Best left here.> >> > Chiranjiv Mehta> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> >> >> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> http://in.. com/> >>>>>>> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.http://in.. com/> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 sorry to interurpt/interfere.The better word is ECCENTRIC not mad.....By the way i also enjoy sufi music.I love it....Love and regards,gopi. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji,> I hold your goodself in high esteem.> I was just telling about SUFI method for ecstasy.> By the way It is said EVERY GENIUS IS A LITTLE MAD.  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Thu, 4 February, 2010 5:43:18 AM> Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> >  > > Dear Kulbir ji,> > //all such outstanding things (including your goodself.../ /> > Sir, please do not include me in that List of oustanding things which> includes that singer in that U Tube Video... I am a most ordinary> person, and would not like to become like him...Please.> > Is that Your goodself by the way ? If so, then I must appreciate that> You sing very well.> > I cannot imitate him, because already my family people call me "paagal> aadmi" and if I do this, then they will waste not a minute, in> transferring me to some assylum. They are just waiting for a reason to> remove me.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > I think you will have to study my kundali..> > Believe me all such outstanding things (including your> goodself) reach me automatically.> > Sir, just try an experiment, go to a lonely place or lock the room> (tell your family members not to worry) now try to imitate himÂ> at highest pitch.> > If you can stand on your feet all along (not many can). you will feel> Ecstasy.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Wed, 3 February, 2010 10:45:45 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> >> > Â> >> > hahahaha. What a video Dear Kulbirji.> >> > Never seen anything like this. He can beat all our Shastriya sangeet> > walas.> >> > But how on earth did you manage to locate this video on U Tube ? and> > what were the search words you put - just wondering. This really> > displays and portrays an intoxicated state so well, without having to> > describe it.> >> > By the way, this guy can sing very well, and now I am saying this> > seriously.> >> > best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> > <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > A glimpse of intoxicated stage;> > >> > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Rw2Iz-k8Uf0> > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ ..> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Wed, 3 February, 2010 9:19:30 AM> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > >> > > Â> > > Sir,> > > Nasha Hai Sab Pe Magar Rang Nashe Ka Hai Juda> > > Khili Khili Hui Subah Pe Hai Shabnam Ka Nasha> > > Hava Pe Khushboo Ka Badal Pe Hai Rimjhim Ka Nasha> > > Kahin Suroor Hai Khushiyon Ka Kahin Gham Ka Nasha> > > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Nachti Botal> > > Maikade Jhoomte Paimaanon Mein Hoti Hulchul> > > Nasha Sharaab Mein Hota To Naachti Botal> > > Nashe Mein Kaun Nahin Hai Mujhe Bataao ZaraÂ> > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Wed, 3 February, 2010 3:19:29 AM> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Alcohol and Bhaskar> > >> > > Â> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > If one cannot get intoxicated, why drink at all ?> > > I followed that dictum and drank a lot. Though swerving, I never> felt> > intoxicate ??!!> > > We will now need to know the meaning of intoxication !> > > Best left here.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > >> > >> > >> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in.. com/> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> http://in.. com/> >> > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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