RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

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Lalkitab while describing psychology says;-

Part 1= house no. Part 2. = planet responsible/associated/governing. Part 3 =tendency/capacity.

 

House no.1 - Venus – Tendency to love – = Love for opposite gender, Such tendency raises itself and progresses in age span from 16 to 36 years.

House no.1 - Saturn – Tendency to love = Flirting tendency, only through vocal interactions – benefic Saturn- Sympathy; malefic Saturn – Selfishness.

House no. 2. – Jupiter – Wish for marriage/copultation one after another – Longing for opposite sex in age span 70-72 years.

House no. 3 – Moon = Innocent Love/friendship + mature Love + longing for love. All three.

House no.3 - Mars –ive = destroyer of all three listed above.

House no.9 – Jupiter = Jovial Flirt.

House no.9 – Mercury = Immature Flirt to such extent that it hurts / pinches.

House no.10 – Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral character.

House no.7 – Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:03:34 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

A good point, made...ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote:>> Namaste Kulbir ji> > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > Best wishes ...> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram > > _____ > > ancient_indian_ astrology> [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> 06 February 2010 15:03> ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> faithfullness.> > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> be> sanyasis too..//> may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > _____ > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> faithfullness.> > > Sir,> Why do you take everything personal?> My answer was case specific.> I have discussed this aspect many times before.> Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> badhayga.> > Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> 07:35:00>

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Point no 3. it is 30 to 70/72 years. RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:13:18 AMRe: Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

 

 

 

Lalkitab while describing psychology says;-

Part 1= house no. Part 2. = planet responsible/ associated/ governing. Part 3 =tendency/capacity.

 

House no.1 - Venus – Tendency to love – = Love for opposite gender, Such tendency raises itself and progresses in age span from 16 to 36 years.

House no.1 - Saturn – Tendency to love = Flirting tendency, only through vocal interactions – benefic Saturn- Sympathy; malefic Saturn – Selfishness.

House no. 2. – Jupiter – Wish for marriage/copultatio n one after another – Longing for opposite sex in age span 70-72 years.

House no. 3 – Moon = Innocent Love/friendship + mature Love + longing for love. All three.

House no.3 - Mars –ive = destroyer of all three listed above.

House no.9 – Jupiter = Jovial Flirt.

House no.9 – Mercury = Immature Flirt to such extent that it hurts / pinches.

House no.10 – Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral character.

House no.7 – Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>ancient_indian_ astrologySat, 6 February, 2010 9:03:34 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

A good point, made...ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote:>> Namaste Kulbir ji> > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > Best wishes ...> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram > > _____ > > ancient_indian_ astrology> [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> 06 February 2010 15:03> ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> faithfullness.> > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> be> sanyasis too..//> may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > _____ > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> faithfullness.> > > Sir,> Why do you take everything personal?> My answer was case specific.> I have discussed this aspect many times before.> Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> badhayga.> > Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> 07:35:00>

 

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Dear Goel Ji,

1. Tendency (inclination to do something) leads to Probability ( The likeness of a given event occurring) which furthers leads to Eventuality ( something that may occur or be done).

2. That's why we lay so much stress on "Tewe Ki Darusuti".

3. Kissi bhi ek rekha ya grah ki buniyad par diya gaya phaladesh koi matlab karne ki bajaye waham khada karega.

RegardsKulbir Bains

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vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:57:11 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Dear Kulbhir Bhai,//House no.10 â€" Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral character.//This statement is correct to large extent but in the example provided by Renuji, this alone Jupiter in 10H seems to fail to give the above result due to other planetary combination.October 6, 1951Time: 0:16:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"Colombo, Sri Lanka------------ ---//House no.7 â€" Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak ?//I am not able to understand this.Does it mean libidinous. ?Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Lalkitab while

describing psychology says;-> Part 1= house no. Part 2. = planet responsible/ associated/ governing. Part 3 =tendency/capacity.> House no.1 - Venus â€" Tendency to love â€" = Love for opposite gender, Such tendency raises itself and progresses in age span from 16 to 36 years.> House no.1  - Saturn â€" Tendency to love = Flirting tendency, only through vocal interactions â€"            benefic Saturn- Sympathy; malefic Saturn â€" Selfishness.> House no. 2. â€" Jupiter â€" Wish for marriage/copultatio n one after another â€" Longing for opposite sex in age span 70-72 years.> House no. 3 â€" Moon = Innocent Love/friendship + mature Love + longing for love. All three.> House no.3 - Mars â€"ive = destroyer of all three listed above. > House no.9 â€" Jupiter

= Jovial Flirt.> House no.9 â€" Mercury = Immature Flirt to such extent that it hurts / pinches.> House no..10 â€" Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral character.> House no.7 â€" Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:03:34 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> >  > > A good point, made...> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@ .>

wrote:> >> > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > Best wishes ...> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > 06 February 2010 15:03> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > be> > sanyasis too..//> > may be that's why the

thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > _____ > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir,> > Why do you take everything personal?> > My answer was case specific.> > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > badhayga.> > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > >

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Dear All,

 

Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:

 

I broadly agree with Sheevani Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11H means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen natives with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:

 

11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? For Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.

Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.

Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).

Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted.

 

The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:

 

Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis

Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H

Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony

7L afflicted by 8L Saturn

 

Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:

Ju afflicted and retrograde

5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve

9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.

 

Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.

 

Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.

Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.

 

This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.

 

To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Sheevani <sheevani147 Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Dear Renu ji,Namaste,In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!warmest regardsSheevaniancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Vijay ji,> > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. > > Natal Chart> > Date:

October 6, 1951> Time: 0:16:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> Colombo, Sri Lanka> > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.> > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.> > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > blessings,> > Renu> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > What will be

the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > Thankyou,> > Best wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > >

> > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > Ram > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > > be> > > sanyasis too..//> > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > My answer was case specific.> > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > > badhayga.> > > > > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > 07:35:00> > >> >>

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Dear Goel Ji,

1. Tendency (inclination to do something) leads to Probability ( The likeness of

a given event occurring) which furthers leads to Eventuality ( something that

may occur or be done).

2. That's why we lay so much stress on Rectification of horoscope. " Tewe Ki

Darusuti " .

3. Prediction made on basis of one line (on palm) or a single planet's position

will solve no purpose rather it will be misleading.

 

Kissi bhi ek rekha ya grah ki buniyad par diya gaya phaladesh koi matlab karne

ki bajaye waham khada karega.

 

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

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Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

 

Sat, 6 February, 2010 11:20:59 PM

Re: Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

 

 

Dear Goel Ji,

1. Tendency (inclination to do something) leads to Probability ( The likeness of

a given event occurring) which furthers leads to Eventuality ( something that

may occur or be done).

2. That's why we lay so much stress on " Tewe Ki Darusuti " .

3. Kissi bhi ek rekha ya grah ki buniyad par diya gaya phaladesh koi matlab

karne ki bajaye waham khada karega.

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

 

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

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Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:57:11 AM

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbhir Bhai,

 

//House no.10 †" Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral

character.//

 

This statement is correct to large extent but in the example provided by Renuji,

this alone Jupiter in 10H seems to fail to give the above result due to other

planetary combination.

 

October 6, 1951

Time: 0:16:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

Colombo, Sri Lanka

 

------------ ---

 

//House no.7 †" Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak ?//

 

I am not able to understand this.

Does it mean libidinous. ?

 

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@

....> wrote:

>

> Lalkitab while describing psychology says;-

> Part 1= house no. Part 2. = planet responsible/ associated/ governing. Part 3

=tendency/capacity.

> House no.1 - Venus †" Tendency to love †"   = Love for opposite

gender, Such tendency raises itself and progresses in age span from 16 to 36

years.

> House no.1  - Saturn †" Tendency to love =  Flirting tendency, only

through vocal interactions

†"              benefic Saturn- Sympathy;

malefic Saturn †" Selfishness.

> House no. 2. †" Jupiter †" Wish for marriage/copultatio n one after

another †" Longing for opposite sex in age span 70-72 years.

> House no. 3 †" Moon = Innocent Love/friendship + mature Love + longing for

love. All three.

> House no.3 -  Mars †" ive = destroyer of all three listed above.

> House no.9 †" Jupiter = Jovial Flirt.

> House no.9 †" Mercury =  Immature Flirt to such extent that it hurts /

pinches.

> House no..10 †" Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral

character..

> House no.7 †" Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak

>  Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:03:34 AM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

>  

>

> A good point, made...

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Kulbir ji

> >

> > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment " as

> > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..

> >

> > Best wishes ...

> >

> > Jai Sita Ram

> >

> > Ram

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab

Kb

> > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > faithfullness.

> >

> >

> > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may

> > be

> > sanyasis too..//

> > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.

> > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > faithfullness.

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> > Why do you take everything personal?

> > My answer was case specific.

> > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas

> > badhayga.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> >

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Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

We are discussing general tendencies.

Your horoscope comes under exceptional category.

Such horoscopes (Saturn + Jupiter) - Page no. 399. 1941 edition have aspects and

effects at variance from general horoscopes. Special (khas-khas) houses have

special aspects of planets. The essence of which will provide the results.

By the way it was your horoscope only from which Mr. Prabhakar taught me how to

analyse a (Dharmi Tewa) Righteous horoscope.

 

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

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Sun, 7 February, 2010 3:16:40 AM

Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

If all inputs have been given, then can someone please guide me, as to

which category I fall in ? Now I invite Shri Kulbir ji too, to present

his comments on my Chart, so that he can expand on his theory on

" Pyaasa " and " Aag " etc.whatever.. ..

 

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Dear Jaswal ji,

In case of natal horoscope ; owing to 1-7 postion of Rahu Ketu.

A planet poisted with any of both will have influence of Both.

A tip = Venus is Rahu+Ketu (artifical planet combination concept of Lalkitab).

RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal Sent: Sun, 7 February, 2010 3:51:42 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

I agree with your general comment “Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the positive attributes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusians attributes, depends on the overall tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time “ though not about Ketu promoting multiple affairs and diluting “positive†attributes of Venus – I would suggest that is more Rahu’s domain. Yes perhaps after sometime the realization of Affairs Not being dharmic hit’s home and causes the Native to re-think their thoughts/actions.

 

 

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Dear Ram Ji,

 

Yes, infatuation is definitely the domain of Rahu, but Ketu can also produce similar results under the right condition. Infact even when Ketu afflicts Venus by transit very closely in a dual sign (especially Mercury's) and if that Ve is already afflicted in Natal chart, it can create conditions for an illicit affair. Ketu's rashi and Nak dispositors are also important here.

 

It can be noted right now Ke is transiting Ge, so people having afflicted Ve in Ge, running Ve dasha/antar or Ke dasha/antar should be concious of such possibilities.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:51:42 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

I agree with your general comment “Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the positive attributes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusians attributes, depends on the overall tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time “ though not about Ketu promoting multiple affairs and diluting “positive†attributes of Venus – I would suggest that is more Rahu’s domain. Yes perhaps after sometime the realization of Affairs Not being dharmic hit’s home and causes the Native to re-think their thoughts/actions.

 

 

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Sir,

A person with Saturn+Jupiter can go astray just like others But the beauty is

that the almighty comes to his Rescue eventually. Nature may adopt any

course/path but ultimately and before it gets too late. He is put on the right

course.

Now here is a warning for you.

The analysis, predictions and remedies provided by your goodself becomes the

responsibility of Almighty.

If you say something about a native which is not in his destiny and it comes

true, you will have to compensate nature from your personal account.

So " no room for error " .

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

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Sun, 7 February, 2010 6:22:31 AM

Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

 

 

 

Bhai Kulbir ji,

 

Whatever the Lalkitab may say about this particular Dharmi tewa...

 

I know that I am not a very righteous person as made out or appearing to

be, I must say this humbly. You know I never Lie. I may not be a bad or

evil person, but not even good either...

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

<lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> We are discussing general tendencies.

> Your horoscope comes under exceptional category.

> Such horoscopes (Saturn + Jupiter) - Page no. 399. 1941 edition have

aspects and effects at variance from general horoscopes. Special

(khas-khas) houses have special aspects of planets. The essence of which

will provide the results.

> By the way it was your horoscope only from which Mr. Prabhakar taught

me how to analyse a (Dharmi Tewa) Righteous horoscope.

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You missed the basics.

Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu. RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Sun, 7 February, 2010 7:23:39 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Dear Manojji,Hare Rama Krsna,//To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.//Yeah i agree with it.Nice !.Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to detachment.Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic :)Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > Some very perceptive

posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:> > I broadly agree with Sheevani Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11H means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen natives with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:> > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.> Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? For Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier. > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.> Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).> Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H

can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted. > > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:> > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis> Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H> Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony> 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn> > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:> Ju afflicted and retrograde> 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve> 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.> > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.> > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.> Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no

cancellation, indicates individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.> > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.> > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.> > Regards,> Â -Manoj> Â > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani sheevani147@ ...> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46

AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > Dear Renu ji,> > Namaste,> > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.> > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..> > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)> > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about

it. > > > > Natal Chart> > > > October 6, 1951> > Time: 0:16:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.> > > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.> > > > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > > > blessings,> > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more

understanding.> > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > > > Thankyou,> > > Best wishes,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..>

> > > > > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > > > be> > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt

them most.> > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

pyaas> > > > badhayga.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > > 07:35:00> > > >> > >> >>

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This is not also a good point. This is the only point. RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:02:16 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Dear Kulbhir bhai,//Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.//This is also a good point.. thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur.We can explain the nature of planet in many ways.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Goel Ji,> You missed the basics.> Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.> Â Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel <goyalvj >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com> Sun, 7 February, 2010 7:23:39 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > Dear Manojji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > //To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.//> > Yeah i agree with it.> Nice !.> > Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to detachment.> Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.> I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic > > Thankyou,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > --- In

ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:> > > > I broadly agree with Sheevani Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11H means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen natives with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:> > > > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.> > Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? For Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier. > > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple

relationships.> > Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).> > Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted. > > > > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:> > > > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis> > Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H> > Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony> > 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn> > > > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:> > Ju afflicted and retrograde> > 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve> > 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.>

> > > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.> > > > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.> > Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.> > > > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.> > > > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal

tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.> > > > Regards,> >  -Manoj> >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Sheevani sheevani147@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > >  > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > Namaste,> > > > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.> > > > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..> > > > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically

aspected..(tainted)> > > > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!> > > > warmest regards> > Sheevani> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > October 6, 1951> > > Time: 0:16:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.>

> > > > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.> > > > > > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > > > > > blessings,> > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal

marriage life?> > > > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > > > > > Jai Sita

Ram> > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > > > > be> > > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> >

> > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > > faithfullness. .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > >

> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > > > > badhayga.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > > > 07:35:00> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/>

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Is it possible to share wife's data as well?

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renunw <renunw Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 9:15:26 AM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Dear Manoj ji,//This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt.//You are absolutely right...Thanks for detailed explanations: )Just checked his wife's horoscope, and to my surprise I noticed that she too has Ve, Ma, Ke combination in her 8H. She is Sagg Lagna. She doesn't have any illicit relationships, totally dedicated to her children...but I feel she flirts a little bit thinking that her husband would feel jealous...poor thing!Her LL Ju is in 7H. This would have prevented her from any wrong doing. Also Moon is exalted both in Lagna and navamsha , Sun is in Leo sign both in Lagna and navmasha, and Saturn is exalted both in Lagna and navamsha.... ....But Venus is debilitated in navamsha and conjunct with Ketu, aspected by Mars in Pisces.blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:> > I broadly agree with Sheevani Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11H means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen natives with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:> > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.> Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? For Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier. > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause

multiple relationships.> Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).> Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted. > > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:> > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis> Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H> Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony> 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn> > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:> Ju afflicted and retrograde> 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve> 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.> > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant

planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.> > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.> Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.> > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.> > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.> > Regards,>

 -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> >  > Dear Renu ji,> > Namaste,> > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.> > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..> > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)> > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!>

> warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" <renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. > > > > Natal Chart> > > > October 6, 1951> > Time: 0:16:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.> > > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.> > > > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > > > blessings,> >

> > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > > > Thankyou,> > > Best wishes,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > > > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > > > be> > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > > > badhayga.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > > 07:35:00> > > >> > >>

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Just as a good batsman has to observe keenly the moment the ball leaves the

bowlers hand. Same rule applies to lalkitab. If you miss the starting point, you

don't know; What's going to hit you a googly, yorker, swing, spin or even a

bodyline?

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Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:14:01 AM

Re: Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

 

 

Dear Goel Ji,

This is not also a good point. This is the only point.

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Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:02:16 AM

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

 

 

Dear Kulbhir bhai,

 

//Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.//

 

This is also a good point..

 

thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

We can explain the nature of planet in many ways.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@

....> wrote:

>

> Dear Goel Ji,

> You missed the basics.

> Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.

>  Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> vijay.goel <goyalvj >

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sun, 7 February, 2010 7:23:39 AM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

>  

> Dear Manojji,

>

> Hare Rama Krsna,

>

> //To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve

conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads

to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting

Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both

are possible within one Life time.//

>

> Yeah i agree with it.

> Nice !.

>

> Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to

detachment..

> Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.

> I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic

>

> Thankyou,

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:

> >

> > I broadly agree with Sheevani Ji that 7L/11H combos can

indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in

11H means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is

house of friends. I have seen natives with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose

husbands have affairs. In short:

> >

> > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple

relationships for self/spouse.

> > Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? For Scorpio,

Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier. 

> > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.

> > Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the

time (there are exceptions).

> > Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above

need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also

afflicted.

> >

> > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly

shows the signature of affairs in a chart:

> >

> > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis

> > Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H

> > Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony

> > 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn

> >

> > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:

> > Ju afflicted and retrograde

> > 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve

> > 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.

> >

> > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in

Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.

> >

> > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its

Rashi position.

> > Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates

individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from

his Rashi position.

> >

> > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may

actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he

ran Ke-Ve in succession.

> >

> > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve

conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads

to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting

Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both

are possible within one Life time.

> >

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sheevani sheevani147@ ...

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> >

> >  

> > Dear Renu ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends

time and money within friends or network circle.

> >

> > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..

> >

> > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)

> >

> > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " renunw@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > >

> > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus.

A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is

aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it.

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > October 6, 1951

> > > Time: 0:16:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

> > > Colombo, Sri Lanka

> > >

> > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.

> > >

> > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.

> > >

> > > Hope this chart would be helpful.

> > >

> > > blessings,

> > >

> > > Renu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > > >

> > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

normal marriage life?

> > > >

> > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > > >

> > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment "

as

> > > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu

...

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Lalkitab Kb

> > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of

them may

> > > > > be

> > > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.

> > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness. .

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

pyaas

> > > > > badhayga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Goel Ji,

//LK says for 7th house Ketu is pyaas (thirst), //

Where is it written? RegardsKulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Sun, 7 February, 2010 8:52:46 PM Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Dear Kulbhir Bhai and all,Hare Rama Krsna,Actually my understanding on LK is based on different pitch and your's is different.Your learning is based on direct application of LK principles whereas mine learning on LK moves through vedic principles route where many things comes to which LK ignores, mine route is bit busy, whereas you are running in a express highway of LK .------------ --------- -------LK says for 7th house Ketu is pyaas (thirst), hence forth i took Venus + ketu yuti to understandd it, which Manojji finely explained it.The examples given by Gopiji & Renuji on this point was also very convincing.------------ --------- ----Every planet represent thirst (yearning) of different type, for eg mercury has thirst to acquire knowledge, sun to acquire power etc.Prime significator for 'Detachment' is only 'ketu' among all planets as also

said by Sita Ramji. Ketu curtails the properties of the house in which it is situated. This 'emptiness' is described as 'thirst' of Ketu in LK. Ketu in 4th house, person always yearns for mother's love, (simple he never gets it).Thirst of Ketu, is based on Jal-tattwa, prime significator of Jal-tattwa is moon and venus.So weak ketu give strong drive for love and sex but strong ketu curtails it completely by putting varaigya, ecliping the moon. Hence in Gopiji's own chart, venus + ketu aspected by saturn, make him the Hatha yogi, to observe perfect control over body through penance.Whereas in other case given by Gopiji, either saturn or ketu was somewhat weak to overcome moon.[Note: strength of planets is looked in LK by observing the practical manifestation or impact of planet in individual's life, through Makaan Kundli , Palm Prints and Events]------------ --------- ---Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay

GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Goel ji,> Just as a good batsman has to observe keenly the moment the ball leaves the bowlers hand. Same rule applies to lalkitab. If you miss the starting point, you don't know; What's going to hit you a googly, yorker, swing, spin or even a bodyline?> Plus the pitch is also deadly like that of Feroz Shah Kotla Stadium, Delhi.>  >  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@. ..> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:14:01 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> >  > Dear Goel Ji,> This is not also a good point.

This is the only point.> Â Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:02:16 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > Dear Kulbhir bhai,> > //Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.//> > This is also a good point.. > > thankyou,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > We can explain the nature of planet in many ways.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Goel Ji,> > You missed the basics.> > Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.> >

 Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel goyalvj@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sun, 7 February, 2010 7:23:39 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > >  > > Dear Manojji,> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > > > //To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.//> > > > Yeah i agree with it.> > Nice !.>

> > > Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to detachment..> > Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.> > I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic > > > > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:> > > > > > I broadly agree with Sheevani Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11H means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen

natives with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:> > > > > > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.> > > Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? For Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier. > > > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.> > > Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).> > > Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted. > > > > > > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a

chart:> > > > > > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis> > > Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H> > > Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony> > > 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn> > > > > > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:> > > Ju afflicted and retrograde> > > 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve> > > 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.> > > > > > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.> > > > > > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.> > > Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates individal

bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.> > > > > > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.> > > > > > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.> > > > > > Regards,> > >  -Manoj> > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> >

> Sheevani sheevani147@ ...> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > > >  > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.> > > > > > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..> > > > > > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)> > > > > > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!> > > > > > warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > > >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > October 6, 1951> > > > Time: 0:16:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > > > > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.> > > > > > > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.>

> > > > > > > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > > > > > > > blessings,> > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > > > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > > > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

normal marriage life?> > > > > > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > > > > >

> > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may>

> > > > > be> > > > > > sanyasis too...//> > > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > > > faithfullness. .> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > > > > > badhayga.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > > > > 07:35:00> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >

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Vijay ji, there is something more to it. Ve-Ke conjunctions depends on which house it is happening and in which D-chart. Further, aspects on that house has to be examined. For eg. If Sa is aspecting or in conjunction with Ve + Ke, it would give a great tapasvi yoga. Tapasvi does not mean sanyasi, it could mean a very hard working and dedicated person focused on some subject matter. Then, we should also see which amsa is the planets in. and also it is to be seen which rasi, tattva and artha, dharma, kama or moksha trikona this conjunction is happening. Then only one can be sure of the interpretation. Otherwise, the prediction would be quite shallow.

regards,

Anish 'chetan'

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:31 PM, renunw <renunw wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Vijay ji,Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it.

Natal ChartOctober 6, 1951Time: 0:16:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 " Colombo, Sri LankaHe is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.

Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.Hope this chart would be helpful.blessings,Renu

 

, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj wrote:>>

> > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > Thankyou,> Best wishes,

> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > > , " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> >> > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment " as> > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..

> > > > Best wishes ...> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > >

> > On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > 06 February 2010 15:03> >

> > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may

> > be> > sanyasis too..//> > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > _____ > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@>> >

> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir,> > Why do you take everything personal?

> > My answer was case specific.> > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > badhayga.> >

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Anish Ji,

 

Ketu Yuti Shukra with dhrishti from Shani is disastrous for relationships (especially for a man). If 6H or 6L is involved could result in a life of never ending pleasure fest with even addiction to pornography etc. Ofcourse there could be redemable features in the chart and right dasha has to run.

Regards,

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Anish 'Chetan' <chetananish.student Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 11:46:25 PMRe: Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

 

Vijay ji, there is something more to it. Ve-Ke conjunctions depends on which house it is happening and in which D-chart. Further, aspects on that house has to be examined. For eg. If Sa is aspecting or in conjunction with Ve + Ke, it would give a great tapasvi yoga. Tapasvi does not mean sanyasi, it could mean a very hard working and dedicated person focused on some subject matter. Then, we should also see which amsa is the planets in. and also it is to be seen which rasi, tattva and artha, dharma, kama or moksha trikona this conjunction is happening. Then only one can be sure of the interpretation. Otherwise, the prediction would be quite shallow.

regards,

Anish 'chetan'

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Dear Vijay ji,Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. Natal ChartOctober 6, 1951Time: 0:16:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"Colombo, Sri LankaHe is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.Hope this chart would be helpful.blessings,Renu

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > Thankyou,> Best wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> >> > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > Best wishes ...> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > 06 February 2010 15:03> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > be> > sanyasis too..//> > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > _____ > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@>> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir,> > Why do you take everything personal?> > My answer was case specific.> > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > badhayga.> > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > 07:35:00>

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