Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Whenever Ju is in 3rd, it can not deliver as expected. regds Dev , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: > > Kindly elaborate this statement. thanks > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 8:13:27 PM > Re: Factors for Adoption > > > Sonia ji, > > Have alread written in my previous posting that Ju is weakened by Maran Karaka. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > In birth chart, if we are taking scorpio lagna Moon and Jupiter are placed in third house. > > According to one principle, dasha connected to third house/third lord,elevnth house/lord, Mars or Jupiter can give coborns. In birth chart Moon the dasha lord with Jupiter is placed in third house. In D-3 Chart, according to the birth time given second dreshkon is rising. Moon is placed in eleventh house aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of dreshkon chart. So my question was does this child have coborns? > > If birth time is changed and first dreshkon is taken, then Moon will come to third house as scorpio lagna will rise in D-3. It will be aspected by third lord Saturn. This again indicates coborns. I want to confirm this chart thats why i asked this question. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 7:57:51 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > What does mere aspect of Ju suggests? Anyway, you can recall the marana karaka concept here. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > Even if its a relative to relative change childs residence is changing. In D-4 my aim is mainly to see does dasha indicate this changes residence/environme nt. The only reason i asked him for more details is because chart is presenting a very different story from what Suresh Ji is has mentioned. > > > Moon is placed in third house of birth chart with Jupiter. In D-3 also Moon is placed in eleventh house and is aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of D-3. If we take first dreshkona then Moon comes to third house. Does it mean he has more coborns? > > > Unless we are sure about birth time in this case, there is no point applying the parameters of adoption. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:46:26 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > // Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. // > > > > > > This does not show change of that order which is mentioned by Sureshji. To me, this may be case of relative to relative adoption where son would be very well in touch with at least mother and might be getting support from original family as well. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for correction, i was trying to see the chart from Tula lagna also. Yes its 8th and 12th lord of birth chart. In D-4, Kumbha lagna is rising. Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:18:33 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > > > Sun is with 8th and 12th lord and not 9th and 12th. How shift of residence is convincing in D-4 in sun Dasa. Can u please explain? > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly give some more details about this child. Born in Suns dasha, with ninth and twelfth lords of birth chart, shift of residence is convincing. In D-4 also Suns role in shift of residence is understood, but followed by MD of Moon, forming a Gaja kesari yoga as well as dhana yoga in birth chart. Trinal lord of D-12 aspected by exalted Jupiter, how can this child go to a poor family? > > > > > Is this child creative by nature? Dasha of Moon with fifth lord Jupiter, how is his education? Is he intersted in Science subjects? > > > > > Is this child active in sports? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ ...> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sun, 7 February, 2010 10:15:57 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Neelam Ji, > > > > > Mother & Father is alive, and boy taken her mother milk only for three days, as she was > > > > > for three days in hospital. > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > suresh awasthi > > > > > ............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ....... > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 2/7/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Factors for Adoption > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > >Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Awasthi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for the interesting case. > > > > > > > > > > > >Could you please tell us: > > > > > >If the family met with an accident/ or the child lost his parents? > > > > > >The adoption was not immediately after birth though the focus of dasha planets is on 4H at birth. > > > > > >Sat-Sun in navamsha, both exalted means child enjoyed a good Sun-sat period. > > > > > >Vargottam moon in D-4, and exalted Jup aspecting from 6H so indicate a happiness for the child wherever he/she is. > > > > > >Did it happen in Moons MD? > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > >Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 7 February 2010 16:22, Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Res Renu Ji > > > > > >>What are the factors under native gone to adoption > > > > > >>06-03-1997 > > > > > >>00:26:00 IST > > > > > >>Delhi > > > > > >>He is from vary rich family and gone to poor family in adoption. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Thank & Regards > > > > > >>suresh awasthi > > > > > >> > > > > > >>- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Dev Ji,You mean to say that Jupiter in third house cannot deliver results related to third house in this case. Can you please explain the reason behind this statement. Regards,Soniaaxeplex <axeplex Sent: Mon, 8 February, 2010 10:04:16 PM Re: Factors for Adoption Whenever Ju is in 3rd, it can not deliver as expected. regds Dev ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > Kindly elaborate this statement. thanks > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > axeplex <axeplex > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Mon, 8 February, 2010 8:13:27 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > Sonia ji, > > Have alread written in my previous posting that Ju is weakened by Maran Karaka. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > In birth chart, if we are taking scorpio lagna Moon and Jupiter are placed in third house. > > According to one principle, dasha connected to third house/third lord,elevnth house/lord, Mars or Jupiter can give coborns. In birth chart Moon the dasha lord with Jupiter is placed in third house. In D-3 Chart, according to the birth time given second dreshkon is rising. Moon is placed in eleventh house aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of dreshkon chart. So my question was does this child have coborns? > > If birth time is changed and first dreshkon is taken, then Moon will come to third house as scorpio lagna will rise in D-3. It will be aspected by third lord Saturn. This again indicates coborns. I want to confirm this chart thats why i asked this question. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 7:57:51 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > What does mere aspect of Ju suggests? Anyway, you can recall the marana karaka concept here. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > Even if its a relative to relative change childs residence is changing. In D-4 my aim is mainly to see does dasha indicate this changes residence/environme nt. The only reason i asked him for more details is because chart is presenting a very different story from what Suresh Ji is has mentioned. > > > Moon is placed in third house of birth chart with Jupiter. In D-3 also Moon is placed in eleventh house and is aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of D-3. If we take first dreshkona then Moon comes to third house. Does it mean he has more coborns? > > > Unless we are sure about birth time in this case, there is no point applying the parameters of adoption. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:46:26 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > // Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. // > > > > > > This does not show change of that order which is mentioned by Sureshji. To me, this may be case of relative to relative adoption where son would be very well in touch with at least mother and might be getting support from original family as well. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for correction, i was trying to see the chart from Tula lagna also. Yes its 8th and 12th lord of birth chart. In D-4, Kumbha lagna is rising. Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:18:33 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > > > Sun is with 8th and 12th lord and not 9th and 12th. How shift of residence is convincing in D-4 in sun Dasa. Can u please explain? > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly give some more details about this child. Born in Suns dasha, with ninth and twelfth lords of birth chart, shift of residence is convincing. In D-4 also Suns role in shift of residence is understood, but followed by MD of Moon, forming a Gaja kesari yoga as well as dhana yoga in birth chart. Trinal lord of D-12 aspected by exalted Jupiter, how can this child go to a poor family? > > > > > Is this child creative by nature? Dasha of Moon with fifth lord Jupiter, how is his education? Is he intersted in Science subjects? > > > > > Is this child active in sports? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ ...> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sun, 7 February, 2010 10:15:57 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Neelam Ji, > > > > > Mother & Father is alive, and boy taken her mother milk only for three days, as she was > > > > > for three days in hospital. > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > suresh awasthi > > > > > ............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ....... > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 2/7/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Factors for Adoption > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > >Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Awasthi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for the interesting case. > > > > > > > > > > > >Could you please tell us: > > > > > >If the family met with an accident/ or the child lost his parents? > > > > > >The adoption was not immediately after birth though the focus of dasha planets is on 4H at birth. > > > > > >Sat-Sun in navamsha, both exalted means child enjoyed a good Sun-sat period. > > > > > >Vargottam moon in D-4, and exalted Jup aspecting from 6H so indicate a happiness for the child wherever he/she is. > > > > > >Did it happen in Moons MD? > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > >Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 7 February 2010 16:22, Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Res Renu Ji > > > > > >>What are the factors under native gone to adoption > > > > > >>06-03-1997 > > > > > >>00:26:00 IST > > > > > >>Delhi > > > > > >>He is from vary rich family and gone to poor family in adoption. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Thank & Regards > > > > > >>suresh awasthi > > > > > >> > > > > > >>- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 No, Soniaji. It is not exactly that. You may find somewhere in Varahamihira. Ju in 3rd is a position if supported by bad influence like in enemy sign would give sufferings. In the given case in D-3, Ju is also in enemy sign and influenced. regds Dev , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: > > Dev Ji, > > You mean to say that Jupiter in third house cannot deliver results related to third house in this case. Can you please explain the reason behind this statement. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 10:04:16 PM > Re: Factors for Adoption > > > Whenever Ju is in 3rd, it can not deliver as expected. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > Kindly elaborate this statement. thanks > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 8:13:27 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > Sonia ji, > > > > Have alread written in my previous posting that Ju is weakened by Maran Karaka. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > In birth chart, if we are taking scorpio lagna Moon and Jupiter are placed in third house. > > > According to one principle, dasha connected to third house/third lord,elevnth house/lord, Mars or Jupiter can give coborns. In birth chart Moon the dasha lord with Jupiter is placed in third house. In D-3 Chart, according to the birth time given second dreshkon is rising. Moon is placed in eleventh house aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of dreshkon chart. So my question was does this child have coborns? > > > If birth time is changed and first dreshkon is taken, then Moon will come to third house as scorpio lagna will rise in D-3. It will be aspected by third lord Saturn. This again indicates coborns. I want to confirm this chart thats why i asked this question. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 7:57:51 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > What does mere aspect of Ju suggests? Anyway, you can recall the marana karaka concept here. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > > > Even if its a relative to relative change childs residence is changing. In D-4 my aim is mainly to see does dasha indicate this changes residence/environme nt. The only reason i asked him for more details is because chart is presenting a very different story from what Suresh Ji is has mentioned. > > > > Moon is placed in third house of birth chart with Jupiter. In D-3 also Moon is placed in eleventh house and is aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of D-3. If we take first dreshkona then Moon comes to third house. Does it mean he has more coborns? > > > > Unless we are sure about birth time in this case, there is no point applying the parameters of adoption. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:46:26 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > > > // Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. // > > > > > > > > This does not show change of that order which is mentioned by Sureshji. To me, this may be case of relative to relative adoption where son would be very well in touch with at least mother and might be getting support from original family as well. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for correction, i was trying to see the chart from Tula lagna also. Yes its 8th and 12th lord of birth chart. In D-4, Kumbha lagna is rising. Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:18:33 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > > > > > Sun is with 8th and 12th lord and not 9th and 12th. How shift of residence is convincing in D-4 in sun Dasa. Can u please explain? > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly give some more details about this child. Born in Suns dasha, with ninth and twelfth lords of birth chart, shift of residence is convincing. In D-4 also Suns role in shift of residence is understood, but followed by MD of Moon, forming a Gaja kesari yoga as well as dhana yoga in birth chart. Trinal lord of D-12 aspected by exalted Jupiter, how can this child go to a poor family? > > > > > > Is this child creative by nature? Dasha of Moon with fifth lord Jupiter, how is his education? Is he intersted in Science subjects? > > > > > > Is this child active in sports? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ ...> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sun, 7 February, 2010 10:15:57 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Neelam Ji, > > > > > > Mother & Father is alive, and boy taken her mother milk only for three days, as she was > > > > > > for three days in hospital. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > suresh awasthi > > > > > > ............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 2/7/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Factors for Adoption > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > >Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Awasthi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for the interesting case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Could you please tell us: > > > > > > >If the family met with an accident/ or the child lost his parents? > > > > > > >The adoption was not immediately after birth though the focus of dasha planets is on 4H at birth. > > > > > > >Sat-Sun in navamsha, both exalted means child enjoyed a good Sun-sat period. > > > > > > >Vargottam moon in D-4, and exalted Jup aspecting from 6H so indicate a happiness for the child wherever he/she is. > > > > > > >Did it happen in Moons MD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > >Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 7 February 2010 16:22, Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Res Renu Ji > > > > > > >>What are the factors under native gone to adoption > > > > > > >>06-03-1997 > > > > > > >>00:26:00 IST > > > > > > >>Delhi > > > > > > >>He is from vary rich family and gone to poor family in adoption. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>Thank & Regards > > > > > > >>suresh awasthi > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thank you will certainly look for it. Best wishes.Soniaaxeplex <axeplex Sent: Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:49:24 PM Re: Factors for Adoption No, Soniaji. It is not exactly that. You may find somewhere in Varahamihira. Ju in 3rd is a position if supported by bad influence like in enemy sign would give sufferings. In the given case in D-3, Ju is also in enemy sign and influenced. regds Dev ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > Dev Ji, > > You mean to say that Jupiter in third house cannot deliver results related to third house in this case. Can you please explain the reason behind this statement. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > axeplex <axeplex > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Mon, 8 February, 2010 10:04:16 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > Whenever Ju is in 3rd, it can not deliver as expected. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > Kindly elaborate this statement. thanks > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 8:13:27 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > Sonia ji, > > > > Have alread written in my previous posting that Ju is weakened by Maran Karaka. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > In birth chart, if we are taking scorpio lagna Moon and Jupiter are placed in third house. > > > According to one principle, dasha connected to third house/third lord,elevnth house/lord, Mars or Jupiter can give coborns. In birth chart Moon the dasha lord with Jupiter is placed in third house. In D-3 Chart, according to the birth time given second dreshkon is rising. Moon is placed in eleventh house aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of dreshkon chart. So my question was does this child have coborns? > > > If birth time is changed and first dreshkon is taken, then Moon will come to third house as scorpio lagna will rise in D-3. It will be aspected by third lord Saturn. This again indicates coborns. I want to confirm this chart thats why i asked this question. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 7:57:51 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > What does mere aspect of Ju suggests? Anyway, you can recall the marana karaka concept here. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > > > Even if its a relative to relative change childs residence is changing. In D-4 my aim is mainly to see does dasha indicate this changes residence/environme nt. The only reason i asked him for more details is because chart is presenting a very different story from what Suresh Ji is has mentioned. > > > > Moon is placed in third house of birth chart with Jupiter. In D-3 also Moon is placed in eleventh house and is aspected by Jupiter the lagna lord of D-3. If we take first dreshkona then Moon comes to third house. Does it mean he has more coborns? > > > > Unless we are sure about birth time in this case, there is no point applying the parameters of adoption. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:46:26 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > > > // Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. // > > > > > > > > This does not show change of that order which is mentioned by Sureshji. To me, this may be case of relative to relative adoption where son would be very well in touch with at least mother and might be getting support from original family as well. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dev Ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for correction, i was trying to see the chart from Tula lagna also. Yes its 8th and 12th lord of birth chart. In D-4, Kumbha lagna is rising. Sun is seventh lord in seventh house, the house of travel, aspected by twelfth lord Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Mon, 8 February, 2010 11:18:33 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soniaji, > > > > > > > > > > Sun is with 8th and 12th lord and not 9th and 12th. How shift of residence is convincing in D-4 in sun Dasa. Can u please explain? > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly give some more details about this child. Born in Suns dasha, with ninth and twelfth lords of birth chart, shift of residence is convincing. In D-4 also Suns role in shift of residence is understood, but followed by MD of Moon, forming a Gaja kesari yoga as well as dhana yoga in birth chart. Trinal lord of D-12 aspected by exalted Jupiter, how can this child go to a poor family? > > > > > > Is this child creative by nature? Dasha of Moon with fifth lord Jupiter, how is his education? Is he intersted in Science subjects? > > > > > > Is this child active in sports? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sonia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ ...> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sun, 7 February, 2010 10:15:57 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Neelam Ji, > > > > > > Mother & Father is alive, and boy taken her mother milk only for three days, as she was > > > > > > for three days in hospital. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > > > > > suresh awasthi > > > > > > ............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 2/7/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Factors for Adoption > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > >Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Awasthi ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thank you for the interesting case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Could you please tell us: > > > > > > >If the family met with an accident/ or the child lost his parents? > > > > > > >The adoption was not immediately after birth though the focus of dasha planets is on 4H at birth. > > > > > > >Sat-Sun in navamsha, both exalted means child enjoyed a good Sun-sat period. > > > > > > >Vargottam moon in D-4, and exalted Jup aspecting from 6H so indicate a happiness for the child wherever he/she is. > > > > > > >Did it happen in Moons MD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > >Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 7 February 2010 16:22, Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Res Renu Ji > > > > > > >>What are the factors under native gone to adoption > > > > > > >>06-03-1997 > > > > > > >>00:26:00 IST > > > > > > >>Delhi > > > > > > >>He is from vary rich family and gone to poor family in adoption. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>Thank & Regards > > > > > > >>suresh awasthi > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Respacted Sonia Ji, 1. Mother health is vary good 1st & 2nd 2. Change of Res 1st 6 & 2nd none 3. No 4. Two (elder sister, elder brother) 5. Yes vary creative child. Rest I also do not much. Sorry for delay because there was no light since last evening. Thanks Regards suresh awasthi--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote: Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdirattaRe: Re: Factors for Adoption Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 2:20 PM Suresh Ji,Thanks a lot for these inputs. Please answer the following questions-1. How is his mothers health since 1999, any serious health aliments last year?2. Any shift in residence?3. Was his school/place of education changed last year? Has there been distraction in his studies?4. Does he have coborns? How many?5. I feel he is a creative child.Apart from this please let me know any other past event in case you are aware of it.Regards,Sonia Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, 8 February, 2010 3:16:15 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, His new father runs a small grocery shop and his mother is mother sister, he is not good in studies but vary intelligent, he do not play much out door sports as now days children do not play, whole day front of t.v what more detail you want I will provide With Regards suresh Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Can I have the data of the chart that is being discussed here. regards, Mouji Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87 Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 12:49:02 PMRe: Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, 1. Mother health is vary good 1st & 2nd 2. Change of Res 1st 6 & 2nd none 3. No 4. Two (elder sister, elder brother) 5. Yes vary creative child. Rest I also do not much. Sorry for delay because there was no light since last evening. Thanks Regards suresh awasthi--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ > wrote: Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoptionancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, February 8, 2010, 2:20 PM Suresh Ji,Thanks a lot for these inputs. Please answer the following questions-1. How is his mothers health since 1999, any serious health aliments last year?2. Any shift in residence?3. Was his school/place of education changed last year? Has there been distraction in his studies?4. Does he have coborns? How many?5. I feel he is a creative child.Apart from this please let me know any other past event in case you are aware of it.Regards,Sonia Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, 8 February, 2010 3:16:15 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, His new father runs a small grocery shop and his mother is mother sister, he is not good in studies but vary intelligent, he do not play much out door sports as now days children do not play, whole day front of t.v what more detail you want I will provide With Regards suresh Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Sure Sir. Its 6th match 1997, 00:26, Delhi.Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Tue, 9 February, 2010 1:04:00 PMRe: Re: Factors for Adoption Can I have the data of the chart that is being discussed here. regards, Mouji Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, February 9, 2010 12:49:02 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, 1. Mother health is vary good 1st & 2nd 2. Change of Res 1st 6 & 2nd none 3. No 4. Two (elder sister, elder brother) 5. Yes vary creative child. Rest I also do not much. Sorry for delay because there was no light since last evening. Thanks Regards suresh awasthi--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ > wrote: Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoptionancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, February 8, 2010, 2:20 PM Suresh Ji,Thanks a lot for these inputs. Please answer the following questions-1. How is his mothers health since 1999, any serious health aliments last year?2. Any shift in residence?3. Was his school/place of education changed last year? Has there been distraction in his studies?4. Does he have coborns? How many?5. I feel he is a creative child.Apart from this please let me know any other past event in case you are aware of it.Regards,Sonia Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, 8 February, 2010 3:16:15 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, His new father runs a small grocery shop and his mother is mother sister, he is not good in studies but vary intelligent, he do not play much out door sports as now days children do not play, whole day front of t.v what more detail you want I will provide With Regards suresh Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 sorry its March not match my mistakeSonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta Sent: Tue, 9 February, 2010 9:48:22 PMRe: Re: Factors for Adoption Sure Sir. Its 6th match 1997, 00:26, Delhi.Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 9 February, 2010 1:04:00 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Can I have the data of the chart that is being discussed here. regards, Mouji Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, February 9, 2010 12:49:02 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, 1. Mother health is vary good 1st & 2nd 2. Change of Res 1st 6 & 2nd none 3. No 4. Two (elder sister, elder brother) 5. Yes vary creative child. Rest I also do not much. Sorry for delay because there was no light since last evening. Thanks Regards suresh awasthi--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ > wrote: Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoptionancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, February 8, 2010, 2:20 PM Suresh Ji,Thanks a lot for these inputs. Please answer the following questions-1. How is his mothers health since 1999, any serious health aliments last year?2. Any shift in residence?3. Was his school/place of education changed last year? Has there been distraction in his studies?4. Does he have coborns? How many?5. I feel he is a creative child.Apart from this please let me know any other past event in case you are aware of it.Regards,Sonia Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyMon, 8 February, 2010 3:16:15 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Factors for Adoption Respacted Sonia Ji, His new father runs a small grocery shop and his mother is mother sister, he is not good in studies but vary intelligent, he do not play much out door sports as now days children do not play, whole day front of t.v what more detail you want I will provide With Regards suresh Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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