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I also say the same thing and agree with you Bhaskar sir,What's the problem?...No problem!!-gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > I once again say the same thing...> > If one cannot prepare a vegetable dish from the banana leaf, does not> mean that others cannot do it...> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > There is only Natal chart here.No bhava or navamsa!!!> > Regards,> > gopi.> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > Sorry,> > >> > > We have seen people predicting very well from -> > >> > > 1) Just the Natal Chart,> > >> > > 2) Natal and Navamsa.> > >> > > 3) Natal and Parashari Bhav Chalit.> > >> > > None of the above use the other charts......> > >> > > Let us not fool ourselves that we can predict only from the D Charts> > and> > > cannot predict from the Natal Chart. Is this then the only astrology> > we> > > have learnt ?> > >> > > And how many of those who propose D Charts have used these and> > predicted> > > for future for any individual in any of these forums or groups uptil> > now> > > ?> > >> > > Can they show case any examples exactly where the event is not> > > noticeable from the Natal Chart, but is only noticeable from the D> > Chart> > > ? Please give us examples of well known personalities and not pick> up> > > charts which cannot be verified or birth details which cannot be> > > authenticated.> > >> > > If they say that D Charts are so important, then how come everybody> is> > > predicting from Natal Charts, and we have not seen anybody amongst> > > thoudands of astrologer using D Charts uptil now ? And if its so> > > important then they should be able to do this in every Horoscope and> > > prove that ? Why to search for such examples?> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Sonia ji,> > > > sorry to interupt.Thats how it is.we can not conclude/determine> with> > > > Rasi chart only.....Pleease note that i am not following the> > > thread....> > > > Regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , Sonia Mehdiratta> > > > sonia_mehdiratta@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dev Ji,> > > > >> > > > > Please tell me what line of education did he take.> > > > > 'Yes, 6th lord Ju is involved but it is aspect and that from 2nd> > > > house,> > > > > 6th shall not come in picture, Ju is not directly linked with> 5th.> > > And> > > > > also there is no Dasa till 2004 '> > > > >> > > > > Jupiter is aspecting fifth lord Saturn, so how is it not> directly> > > > linked? When we are seeing the houses/lords getting connected to> > fifth> > > > house/lord, this certainly needs a mention.> > > > > Sir dashas will definitely influence the quality of education> and> > > its> > > > type. But repeated connection of fifth, sixth and eighth houses in> > > this> > > > horoscope will certainly have its say in his education.> > > > > What did he do after Bachelors? Since he is currently running> the> > > > dasha of Jupiter, mutually aspecting fifth lord Saturn.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Sonia> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ________________________________> > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > Thu, 11 February, 2010 3:17:17 PM> > > > > Re: SRILANKA> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Soniaji,> > > > >> > > > > I have a song with Sonia and moment I read your name, it reminds> > me> > > > that. .... Lighter vein....> > > > >> > > > > // From lagna fifth lord Saturn is placed in eighth house> aspected> > > by> > > > sixth lord Jupiter. //> > > > >> > > > > Yes, 6th lord Ju is involved but it is aspect and that from 2nd> > > house,> > > > 6th shall not come in picture, Ju is not directly linked with 5th.> > And> > > > also there is no Dasa till 2004 //> > > > >> > > > > // From Moon, fifth lord is Venus placed in ninth with sixth> lord> > > > Mercury and eighth lord Sun. //> > > > >> > > > > This is true, conjunction.> > > > >> > > > > // From Mercury ( significator) Saturn is fifth and sixth lord.> > > Eighth> > > > lord from Mercury is Mars, placed in fifth from it. //> > > > >> > > > > 6th is Valid if Sa Dasa is involved.> > > > >> > > > > // That is how i mentioned the common factor.> > > > > Kindly give me the feed back about his education, then i will> > share> > > > other point- technical or non technical.> > > > > I did this analysis before you posted that mail with nakshatra> > > > details. //> > > > >> > > > > There was no disturbance in education. It was continuous till> > > > Bachelors.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia> > Mehdiratta> > > > <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dev Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > From lagna fifth lord Saturn is placed in eighth house> aspected> > by> > > > sixth lord Jupiter.> > > > > > From Moon, fifth lord is Venus placed in ninth with sixth lord> > > > Mercury and eighth lord Sun.> > > > > > From Mercury ( significator) Saturn is fifth and sixth lord.> > > Eighth> > > > lord from Mercury is Mars, placed in fifth from it.> > > > > > That is how i mentioned the common factor.> > > > > > Kindly give me the feed back about his education, then i will> > > share> > > > other point- technical or non technical.> > > > > > I did this analysis before you posted that mail with nakshatra> > > > details.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sonia> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Thu, 11 February, 2010 2:39:12 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Soniaji,> > > > > >> > > > > > // If we just see the basic chart, fifth lord Saturn is placed> > in> > > > eighth house in friendly sign, aspected by Jupiter.From Moon sign,> > > > Capricorn, fifth house has Saturn. Fifth lord Venus is> debilitated,> > > but> > > > with exalted Mercury and Sun, no planet is aspecting this> planetary> > > > conjunction. Mercury is in exaltation sign, fifth house from> Mercury> > > has> > > > exalted Mars, Rahu and Moon. Common factor from these three is> > > > combination of fifth, sixth and eighth house lords.Education> should> > be> > > > technical, with breaks/changes. //> > > > > >> > > > > > How come 5th, 6th and 8th is common?> > > > > > On what basis, you are saying technical education?> > > > > >> > > > > > // All these planets are placed in fourth house, having no> > direct> > > > connection to fifth house or fifth lord from lagna. But Moon in> own> > > > sign, Mars in exaltation sign, will although give some disturbance> > in> > > > education, but overall dasha will be fine.//> > > > > >> > > > > > Shall I consider this or not after I told you Dasa starts from> > > Moon?> > > > > >> > > > > > // If Balance is of Moon, then Mars, Rahu and Jupiter will be> > > > broadly giving him education and will shape his career. Rahus sign> > > lord> > > > is Saturn placed in eighth house, aspected by Jupiter, he could> also> > > > take up some educational stream where he will have to sit for some> > > > competitive exams. Both Jupiter and Rahu mahadashas can give some> > > change> > > > in educational stream.//> > > > > >> > > > > > Please elaborate since Dasa starts from Moon as written in> > earlier> > > > mail.> > > > > >> > > > > > // In matters of education i feel initial period may not be> very> > > > promising but later in life, he will certainly get into technical> > > > education and will do well.//> > > > > >> > > > > > Shall come back on this.> > > > > >> > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia> > > Mehdiratta> > > > <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dev Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If we just see the basic chart, fifth lord Saturn is placed> in> > > > eighth house in friendly sign, aspected by Jupiter.From Moon sign,> > > > Capricorn, fifth house has Saturn. Fifth lord Venus is> debilitated,> > > but> > > > with exalted Mercury and Sun, no planet is aspecting this> planetary> > > > conjunction. Mercury is in exaltation sign, fifth house from> Mercury> > > has> > > > exalted Mars, Rahu and Moon. Common factor from these three is> > > > combination of fifth, sixth and eighth house/lords. Education> should> > > be> > > > technical, with breaks/changes. Moon in Capricorn, Balance dasha> > will> > > be> > > > either Sun, Moon or Mars.> > > > > > > Broadly if he gets Sun balance, then dasha to follow will be> > > Moon> > > > , Mars and Rahu when he will complete his formal education. All> > these> > > > planets are placed in fourth house, having no direct connection to> > > fifth> > > > house or fifth lord from lagna. But Moon in own sign, Mars in> > > exaltation> > > > sign, will although give some disturbance in education, but> overall> > > > dasha will be fine.> > > > > > > If Balance is of Moon, then Mars, Rahu and Jupiter will be> > > broadly> > > > giving him education and will shape his career. Rahus sign lord is> > > > Saturn placed in eighth house, aspected by Jupiter, he could also> > take> > > > up some educational stream where he will have to sit for some> > > > competitive exams. Both Jupiter and Rahu mahadashas can give some> > > change> > > > in educational stream.> > > > > > > If dasha balance is of Mars then also Rahu and Jupiter> > > mahadashas> > > > will be the ones we need to focus on.> > > > > > > In matters of education i feel initial period may not be> very> > > > promising but later in life, he will certainly get into technical> > > > education and will do well.> > > > > > > Waiting for your inputs.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sonia> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Wed, 10 February, 2010 6:57:37 PM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I like this, sir. When you explain, you write a long mail.> > > > Personally, I never said anything on KP since it already has its> own> > > > divisions. Anyway, I already closed the argument in my previous> > mail.> > > I> > > > am presenting here the first chart for discussionon education.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am not giving birth details but planetary details so that> > > > neither D-chart nor Amsa nor KP is used.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Asc - Libra - No Planet> > > > > > > 2nd - Scorpio - Jupiter> > > > > > > 3rd - Sag - No Planet> > > > > > > 4th - Capricorn - Ra, Ma, Moon> > > > > > > 5th - Aquarius - No planet> > > > > > > 6th - Pisces - No planet> > > > > > > 7th - Aries - No Planet> > > > > > > 8th - Taurus - Saturn> > > > > > > 9th - Gemini - No planet> > > > > > > 10th - Cancer - Ketu> > > > > > > 11th - Leo - No Planet> > > > > > > 12th - Virgo - Sun, Venus, Mercury> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhava chart (As per Vedic concept)where ASC is middle of> house> > > > > > >> > > > > > > No change in any planet placement, same as Rasi chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> "Bhaskar"> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This does not matter if one cannot understand what I> > > understood.> > > > That> > > > > > > > mail was given in general and not to any person specific.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I actually meant that if one cannot notice any event from> > the> > > > Natal> > > > > > > > Chart does not mean that others cannot notice it, or it> > cannot> > > > be> > > > > > > > noticed, or there is essentially the necessity of the D> > Charts> > > > to locate> > > > > > > > that event. This is not right astrology.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I also meant that if one cannot notice that through KP,> does> > > not> > > > > > > > neecessarily mean that KP is at fault or others cannot> > notice> > > it> > > > through> > > > > > > > KP.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One cannot practically spend his time reasoning out the> why> > > for> > > > every> > > > > > > > Horoscope put here on the Forum. Many have other work also> > to> > > do> > > > instead> > > > > > > > of just engaging in this work. This does not mean that the> > > chart> > > > has> > > > > > > > failed the norms of normal Traditional Astrology or KP.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I advice members not to show their aversions to any> system,> > > but> > > > rather> > > > > > > > spend their time on sharing what they already know about.> If> > > for> > > > > > > > instance they know more about predictions through D> Charts,> > > then> > > > please> > > > > > > > come up with the pointers regarding the same, so that we> can> > > > learn more> > > > > > > > about how to predict through the same.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > "axeplex"> > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I could not understand what you mean?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Because I have never leant to cook vegetable dish from> > > > Banana leaves> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > am imcompetent to do so, does not mean, that vegetable> > > > cannot be> > > > > > > > made> > > > > > > > > > from banana leaves, or others also cannot.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > Suresh> > > > Awasthi> > > > > > > > > > <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear All> > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > > > Yes I am agree with Dev Ji with finding the matter> > with> > > > D-12, D1> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > chart made as K.P> > > > > > > > > > > shows nothing .or I not able to identify> > > > > > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > > > > > > suresh awasthi> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/9/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 3:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I am closing this argument. I would definitely come> > back> > > > in> > > > > > > > future. I> > > > > > > > > > don't know when. You said one month, it may be even> > three> > > > months.> > > > > > > > > > whatever you call it, it does not matter to me.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > My aim in this group is not prediction though I have> > > > participated> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > many discussions including the latest "Factors for> > > > Adoption". You> > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > read the second chart given there where D-12 strongly> > > > predicts the> > > > > > > > case> > > > > > > > > > for 4th and 9th while D-1 does not.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > KP is specialisation.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Traditional is normal MBBS.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts is the Sonography.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > A Traditional Astroloegr is like the normal family> > > > Doctor who> > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > tell> > > > > > > > > > > > you which part of your body is having a problem.> He> > > does> > > > not> > > > > > > > need> > > > > > > > > > > > sonography for every visit you make him. BUT> > > Sonography> > > > or an X> > > > > > > > Ray> > > > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > > > be used to confirm what he has already suspected.> > This> > > > does not> > > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > > > that one cannot predict from the D Charts.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You must check my predictions in this Group, where> > 80%> > > > of the> > > > > > > > times> > > > > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > > > > have not used KP, but used traditional and also> > > > explained the> > > > > > > > > > Why....> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I have not seen a single prediction from you in> this> > > > Group till> > > > > > > > > > date.> > > > > > > > > > > > Can you make some predictions using the D Charts> and> > > > also> > > > > > > > explain> > > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > > > that prediction cannot be made through the Natal> > Chart> > > > on a> > > > > > > > stand> > > > > > > > > > alone> > > > > > > > > > > > basis ?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lets stop this talking and please now put on> display> > > all> > > > what> > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > been propogating uptil now.... by way of> > > illustrations.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt if you could even get me 3 Examples even> if> > I> > > > give you a> > > > > > > > > > months> > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > So lets not talk about recipes but serve the food> > > > here...> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> com,> > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > //Again we are furthering an argument where> there> > is> > > > no> > > > > > > > > > oppositions. //> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > We can close the argument if there is no> > opposition> > > > since it> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > anyway> > > > > > > > > > > > unending discussion.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have already said that to confirm what is> seen> > > in> > > > Natal> > > > > > > > Chart,> > > > > > > > > > > > theres nothing wrong to confirm D Charts. In fact> it> > > is> > > > better> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > can read the D Chart in affirmations. //> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > What will you do if there is no confirmation in> > > > D-chart? You> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > ignore D-1 or read it as it is.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > // Yes I agree , that we must look into what> > works,> > > > rather> > > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > > is written or not, in Shastras. But aspects> between> > > > > > > > shadows(Planets> > > > > > > > > > in D> > > > > > > > > > > > Charts) does not make sense.//> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > No comments on the aspect apart. I already wrote> > in> > > > one of my> > > > > > > > > > previous> > > > > > > > > > > > mails.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > // Again You brought in KP. KP if you study> well,> > > you> > > > will> > > > > > > > realise> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > a integral part of the Shastras, which uses> Nakshtra> > > > level> > > > > > > > > > predictions> > > > > > > > > > > > > profusely, which present day astrologers have> > > > forgotten to> > > > > > > > use,> > > > > > > > > > due to> > > > > > > > > > > > > the intracasy and studies involved in same.//> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > No comments.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > // This is false. It is not necessary to study> the> > D> > > > Charts in> > > > > > > > > > order> > > > > > > > > > > > to predict for educations. In fact it is not> > > nessessary> > > > or> > > > > > > > mandatory> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > check D Charts in order to predict well.//> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can do that. I would like to learn from> > you.> > > > But> > > > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > bringing KP since KP already has divisions and> does> > > not> > > > need> > > > > > > > > > D-chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > // Who says that our Traditional astrology does> > not> > > > teach us> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > decipher between many births within the same> window.> > > > What is the> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra system meant for ? What is the Navamsha> > > meant> > > > for ? //> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra divides by 2.5 that can divide the> group> > > to> > > > at> > > > > > > > maximum> > > > > > > > > > 400> > > > > > > > > > > > to 800 people.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > // Please give us an example where one cannot> > > predict> > > > > > > > education> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > the Natal Chart, but can do so from the D 24> Chart.> > //> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall come back on this. May be, I would learn> > but> > > > am anyday> > > > > > > > > > open to> > > > > > > > > > > > learn.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com,> > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again we are furthering an argument where> there> > is> > > > no> > > > > > > > > > oppositions. I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have already said that to confirm what is seen> > in> > > > Natal> > > > > > > > Chart,> > > > > > > > > > > > theres> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing wrong to confirm D Charts. In fact it> is> > > > better if> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > > > read> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the D Chart in affirmations.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree , that we must look into what> works,> > > > rather than> > > > > > > > > > what is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > written or not, in Shastras. But aspects> between> > > > > > > > shadows(Planets> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts) does not make sense.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again You brought in KP. KP if you study well,> > you> > > > will> > > > > > > > realise> > > > > > > > > > is a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > integral part of the Shastras, which uses> > Nakshtra> > > > level> > > > > > > > > > predictions> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profusely, which present day astrologers have> > > > forgotten to> > > > > > > > use,> > > > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intracasy and studies involved in same.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //Without looking at D-24, if someone predicts> > > > education, it> > > > > > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand well and is illogical.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is false. It is not necessary to study> the> > D> > > > Charts in> > > > > > > > > > order to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > predict for educations. In fact it is not> > > nessessary> > > > or> > > > > > > > > > mandatory to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > check D Charts in order to predict well.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //And when it comes to logic, one can not> ignore> > > > D-chart.> > > > > > > > Let us> > > > > > > > > > > > take> > > > > > > > > > > > > > education, there would have been a group of at> > > least> > > > 1000 to> > > > > > > > > > 2000> > > > > > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > > > born with the same planet placements in the> ASC> > > > window and> > > > > > > > may> > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more if we consider next day also. //> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says that our Traditional astrology does> not> > > > teach us to> > > > > > > > > > > > decipher> > > > > > > > > > > > > > between many births within the same window.> What> > > is> > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra> > > > > > > > > > > > system> > > > > > > > > > > > > > meant for ? What is the Navamsha meant for ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give us an example where one cannot> > predict> > > > education> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart, but can do so from the D 24> Chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you show us an illustration on how> to> > > > calculate> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > D24 ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > com,> > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never said that natal and D-charts shall> be> > > > studied in> > > > > > > > > > > > isolation. I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > said a guy who can read D-chart can read D-1> > also.> > > > Basic> > > > > > > > fundas> > > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same. I am aware that many people in the group> > are> > > > more> > > > > > > > > > concerned> > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > natal chart. And I am not saying they are> wrong.> > > > Everyone> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > > > > style.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most of the people are also logical> here.> > > And> > > > when it> > > > > > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > logic, one can not ignore D-chart. Let us take> > > > education,> > > > > > > > there> > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been a group of at least 1000 to 2000> > people> > > > born with> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet placements in the ASC window and may be> > > even> > > > more if> > > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > > > > > consider> > > > > > > > > > > > > > next day also. Without looking at D-24, if> > someone> > > > predicts> > > > > > > > > > > > education,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does not stand well and is illogical.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether D-chart is used or Amsas, it has to> > > exist.> > > > We had> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > big> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion on Nadi astrology few days back.> > > Whatever> > > > concept> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > used> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi, it stands because of Amsas.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, sometimes we need to consider what> > > > works. Rather> > > > > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking what is written in Shastras. KP is> not> > > > written in> > > > > > > > > > Shastras> > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is accepted since it works.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One cannot have a child without going> > through> > > a> > > > > > > > marriage,> > > > > > > > > > Suhaag> > > > > > > > > > > > > > raat,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the pains of labour.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, one cannot become adept in D> > Charts> > > > without> > > > > > > > > > becoing> > > > > > > > > > > > adept> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Predicting from the Natal Chart. Please> tell> > > me> > > > how can> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > become a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brain Surgeon without passing the normal> > MBBS> > > > Degree.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father cannot come after the children is> > born.> > > > Its> > > > > > > > always> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > Father> > > > > > > > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comes first in the world.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to , and am sure all the> > members> > > > here too,> > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > learn how to predcit -> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Using Natal Charts + D Charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Only D Charts without using Natal> Chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The latter option is what your goodself> > > > suggested, but> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > actually> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impossible.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no difference of approach> actually,> > > > instead its> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirmation of approach which one has> taken> > > to> > > > approach> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart. What one notices in the Natal chart> > for> > > > say the> > > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > > > > house, he> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will confirm that from the sapthamsa or> what> > > one> > > > > > > > observes in> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house from the Natal Chart, will be> > conformed> > > > from the> > > > > > > > > > Dasamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how it goes, and no study of the D Charts> > can> > > be> > > > done in> > > > > > > > > > > > isolation.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children cannot come without a Father. So> if> > > you> > > > want to> > > > > > > > > > bring> > > > > > > > > > > > in a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter in law (D Charts) home and are> > going> > > to> > > > meet> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > prospective> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl for a match, you will first see how> her> > > > Father is> > > > > > > > > > (Natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart),> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then proceed to marry your son with> that> > > > Girl> > > > > > > > (Combine> > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice in Natal Chart with confirmations> > from> > > > the D> > > > > > > > Chart).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not even thinking of searching it.> > > Just> > > > to add> > > > > > > > on to> > > > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have written, reverse is also true. If> > someone> > > > is adept> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > D-charts,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working on natal chart is not that> difficult> > > > since there> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > difference> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of approach and consideration of different> > > > factors only> > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > .> > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an ace serve which I shot.> > Nobody> > > > will find> > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > shloka> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirming aspects in D Charts. I have> > > > already> > > > > > > > exchanged> > > > > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > > > than a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 200> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mails on this issue about 2 years ago,> > > where> > > > I was> > > > > > > > > > > > supporting> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aspects in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts, and in this process rummaged> > > > through all> > > > > > > > > > > > references on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on D Charts. But this time I am not> > > standing> > > > in> > > > > > > > support,> > > > > > > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support of same. Like to change sides> > and> > > > switch> > > > > > > > over to> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to play the next match...This makes it> > > > enjoyable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So do not actually bother searching> for> > > > this. You> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere, except one book and one> Line,> > > > which I will> > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > say> > > > > > > > > > > > > > where.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I do not want to encourage> > > > astrologers in> > > > > > > > > > matching> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > events to aspects in D Charts. I want> > them> > > > to learn> > > > > > > > > > > > forecasting,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is predicting an event in advance. SO> my> > > > efforts are> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > help> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > students> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and not make it easy for them to> connect> > > > what has> > > > > > > > > > happened> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be very much adept in> predicting> > > from> > > > the> > > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > before> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving to predicting from the other> > > Charts.> > > > In fact> > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > should> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to predict even without a birth chart> in> > > > hand or> > > > > > > > with no> > > > > > > > > > > > birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > . com,> > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You misunderstood. I am not saying> to> > > > compare KP> > > > > > > > sub> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D-charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Off course, that is a wrong> comparison.> > I> > > > was> > > > > > > > saying,> > > > > > > > > > aim of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > both is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further divide the small group to> reach> > > the> > > > > > > > individual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, on aspect parts in D-charts,> I> > > > don't know> > > > > > > > > > where> > > > > > > > > > > > and if> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written somewhere.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > .> > > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read my last mail properly.> > > > Nowhere have> > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts do not exist. I have gone> > > through> > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Traditional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies before making comments on> > > same.> > > > So I am> > > > > > > > > > fully> > > > > > > > > > > > aware> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand whenever I make any> statement> > > and> > > > normally> > > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pockets in such matters for> anybody> > to> > > > argue or> > > > > > > > > > point> > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fingers on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was talking, where can you show> me> > > any> > > > shloka> > > > > > > > > > -couplet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects to be seen in the D> Charts.> > I> > > > have put> > > > > > > > up> > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > question> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the members and not abour> existence> > of> > > D> > > > Charts,> > > > > > > > > > which I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, are there.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And do not bring in KP in every> mail> > > > please,> > > > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reference. I wil, start talking> > about> > > > Tarot> > > > > > > > Cards> > > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jamini, or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi, or Runes, or Crystal balls> and> > > > this will> > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > become a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mess.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I belive you are trying to say> that> > > just> > > > as> > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > following> > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subs for minute predictions, in> same> > > way> > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Traditional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts. But who is negating this> ?> > I> > > > am not.> > > > > > > > Who> > > > > > > > > > says> > > > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying so. So wheres the> > > issue> > > > about> > > > > > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comparision of KP Subs and D> Charts,> > > but> > > > thats a> > > > > > > > > > wrong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comparison.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must compare the antras of every> > > > planetwith D> > > > > > > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > .> > > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All ancient shastras talk of> > > > divisions. Though> > > > > > > > > > there> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nowhere> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written D-chart, some indications> > are> > > > there in> > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts. To> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether someone uses Amsas or> > virtual> > > > D-chart or> > > > > > > > > > sub/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub-sub as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > per> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is all about identifying an> > > > individual in the> > > > > > > > > > crowd.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user convenience e.g. for> selecting> > an> > > > option in> > > > > > > > > > > > computer,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouse and the other uses keyboard> > but> > > > results> > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > same.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see Daily horoscope that> > divides> > > > whole> > > > > > > > > > population> > > > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12, do> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satisfied and read chart which> > divides> > > > the crowd> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > small> > > > > > > > > > > > > > groups> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then these Amsas, virtual charts> and> > > > sub/> > > > > > > > sub-sub> > > > > > > > > > help> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > break> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small groups further.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is easy to predict when> somone> > > > approaches> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > problem> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of D-1 only but for blind charts,> > > > divisions are> > > > > > > > > > > > important.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> astrology@> > > > .> > > > > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except for postmartem of> Charts> > ,> > > in> > > > books> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > BV> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rao, Shri Santhanam, and> > relating> > > > the Life> > > > > > > > > > events to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varga> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts, one will never find> the> > > > mention of> > > > > > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divisional Charts, in any> > Shastra.> > > > If any> > > > > > > > > > Shastra> > > > > > > > > > > > says> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quote the relevant shloka.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact, Shri BV raman in one> of> > > his> > > > books,> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > > > > > explicitly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even Navamsha etc. are> not> > to> > > > be> > > > > > > > considered> > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > positions> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the planets, just the points> of> > > > influence> > > > > > > > (Not> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > exact> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quoting what I can recall as> the> > > > meaning).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My personal view does not> matter> > > in> > > > aspects,> > > > > > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feel> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are not many who can> read> > > the> > > > > > > > Divisional> > > > > > > > > > > > charts,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking of aspects in> Divisional> > > > Charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But to each his own,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does not matter even if one> > reads> > > > the chart> > > > > > > > > > upisde> > > > > > > > > > > > down,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is able to give correct> > > predictions.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards and best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > Homepage. http://in./> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Gopi ji,

 

If You mean to say that I do not know the use of D Charts, then You are

mistaken Sir. I have learnt the use (Practical) of D Charts from one of

the best Qualified Astrologers in India, but am not at all inclined to

display the (study)same over here, for various reasons....

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " gopalakrishna "

<gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> I also say the same thing and agree with you Bhaskar sir,What's the

> problem?...No problem!!

> -gopi.

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > I once again say the same thing...

> >

> > If one cannot prepare a vegetable dish from the banana leaf, does

not

> > mean that others cannot do it...

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > There is only Natal chart here.No bhava or navamsa!!!

> > > Regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > Sorry,

> > > >

> > > > We have seen people predicting very well from -

> > > >

> > > > 1) Just the Natal Chart,

> > > >

> > > > 2) Natal and Navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Natal and Parashari Bhav Chalit.

> > > >

> > > > None of the above use the other charts......

> > > >

> > > > Let us not fool ourselves that we can predict only from the D

> Charts

> > > and

> > > > cannot predict from the Natal Chart. Is this then the only

> astrology

> > > we

> > > > have learnt ?

> > > >

> > > > And how many of those who propose D Charts have used these and

> > > predicted

> > > > for future for any individual in any of these forums or groups

> uptil

> > > now

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Can they show case any examples exactly where the event is not

> > > > noticeable from the Natal Chart, but is only noticeable from the

D

> > > Chart

> > > > ? Please give us examples of well known personalities and not

pick

> > up

> > > > charts which cannot be verified or birth details which cannot be

> > > > authenticated.

> > > >

> > > > If they say that D Charts are so important, then how come

> everybody

> > is

> > > > predicting from Natal Charts, and we have not seen anybody

amongst

> > > > thoudands of astrologer using D Charts uptil now ? And if its so

> > > > important then they should be able to do this in every Horoscope

> and

> > > > prove that ? Why to search for such examples?

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sonia ji,

> > > > > sorry to interupt.Thats how it is.we can not

conclude/determine

> > with

> > > > > Rasi chart only.....Pleease note that i am not following the

> > > > thread....

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > , Sonia

> Mehdiratta

> > > > > sonia_mehdiratta@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dev Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please tell me what line of education did he take.

> > > > > > 'Yes, 6th lord Ju is involved but it is aspect and that from

> 2nd

> > > > > house,

> > > > > > 6th shall not come in picture, Ju is not directly linked

with

> > 5th.

> > > > And

> > > > > > also there is no Dasa till 2004 '

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter is aspecting fifth lord Saturn, so how is it not

> > directly

> > > > > linked? When we are seeing the houses/lords getting connected

to

> > > fifth

> > > > > house/lord, this certainly needs a mention.

> > > > > > Sir dashas will definitely influence the quality of

education

> > and

> > > > its

> > > > > type. But repeated connection of fifth, sixth and eighth

houses

> in

> > > > this

> > > > > horoscope will certainly have its say in his education.

> > > > > > What did he do after Bachelors? Since he is currently

running

> > the

> > > > > dasha of Jupiter, mutually aspecting fifth lord Saturn.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sonia

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > axeplex axeplex@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thu, 11 February, 2010 3:17:17 PM

> > > > > > Re: SRILANKA

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soniaji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a song with Sonia and moment I read your name, it

> reminds

> > > me

> > > > > that. .... Lighter vein....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > // From lagna fifth lord Saturn is placed in eighth house

> > aspected

> > > > by

> > > > > sixth lord Jupiter. //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, 6th lord Ju is involved but it is aspect and that from

> 2nd

> > > > house,

> > > > > 6th shall not come in picture, Ju is not directly linked with

> 5th.

> > > And

> > > > > also there is no Dasa till 2004 //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > // From Moon, fifth lord is Venus placed in ninth with sixth

> > lord

> > > > > Mercury and eighth lord Sun. //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is true, conjunction.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > // From Mercury ( significator) Saturn is fifth and sixth

> lord.

> > > > Eighth

> > > > > lord from Mercury is Mars, placed in fifth from it. //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6th is Valid if Sa Dasa is involved.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > // That is how i mentioned the common factor.

> > > > > > Kindly give me the feed back about his education, then i

will

> > > share

> > > > > other point- technical or non technical.

> > > > > > I did this analysis before you posted that mail with

nakshatra

> > > > > details. //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was no disturbance in education. It was continuous

till

> > > > > Bachelors.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Dev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia

> > > Mehdiratta

> > > > > <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dev Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From lagna fifth lord Saturn is placed in eighth house

> > aspected

> > > by

> > > > > sixth lord Jupiter.

> > > > > > > From Moon, fifth lord is Venus placed in ninth with sixth

> lord

> > > > > Mercury and eighth lord Sun.

> > > > > > > From Mercury ( significator) Saturn is fifth and sixth

lord.

> > > > Eighth

> > > > > lord from Mercury is Mars, placed in fifth from it.

> > > > > > > That is how i mentioned the common factor.

> > > > > > > Kindly give me the feed back about his education, then i

> will

> > > > share

> > > > > other point- technical or non technical.

> > > > > > > I did this analysis before you posted that mail with

> nakshatra

> > > > > details.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sonia

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > Thu, 11 February, 2010 2:39:12 PM

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soniaji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > // If we just see the basic chart, fifth lord Saturn is

> placed

> > > in

> > > > > eighth house in friendly sign, aspected by Jupiter.From Moon

> sign,

> > > > > Capricorn, fifth house has Saturn. Fifth lord Venus is

> > debilitated,

> > > > but

> > > > > with exalted Mercury and Sun, no planet is aspecting this

> > planetary

> > > > > conjunction. Mercury is in exaltation sign, fifth house from

> > Mercury

> > > > has

> > > > > exalted Mars, Rahu and Moon. Common factor from these three is

> > > > > combination of fifth, sixth and eighth house lords.Education

> > should

> > > be

> > > > > technical, with breaks/changes. //

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How come 5th, 6th and 8th is common?

> > > > > > > On what basis, you are saying technical education?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > // All these planets are placed in fourth house, having no

> > > direct

> > > > > connection to fifth house or fifth lord from lagna. But Moon

in

> > own

> > > > > sign, Mars in exaltation sign, will although give some

> disturbance

> > > in

> > > > > education, but overall dasha will be fine.//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shall I consider this or not after I told you Dasa starts

> from

> > > > Moon?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > // If Balance is of Moon, then Mars, Rahu and Jupiter will

> be

> > > > > broadly giving him education and will shape his career. Rahus

> sign

> > > > lord

> > > > > is Saturn placed in eighth house, aspected by Jupiter, he

could

> > also

> > > > > take up some educational stream where he will have to sit for

> some

> > > > > competitive exams. Both Jupiter and Rahu mahadashas can give

> some

> > > > change

> > > > > in educational stream.//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please elaborate since Dasa starts from Moon as written in

> > > earlier

> > > > > mail.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > // In matters of education i feel initial period may not

be

> > very

> > > > > promising but later in life, he will certainly get into

> technical

> > > > > education and will do well.//

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shall come back on this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia

> > > > Mehdiratta

> > > > > <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dev Ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If we just see the basic chart, fifth lord Saturn is

> placed

> > in

> > > > > eighth house in friendly sign, aspected by Jupiter.From Moon

> sign,

> > > > > Capricorn, fifth house has Saturn. Fifth lord Venus is

> > debilitated,

> > > > but

> > > > > with exalted Mercury and Sun, no planet is aspecting this

> > planetary

> > > > > conjunction. Mercury is in exaltation sign, fifth house from

> > Mercury

> > > > has

> > > > > exalted Mars, Rahu and Moon. Common factor from these three is

> > > > > combination of fifth, sixth and eighth house/lords. Education

> > should

> > > > be

> > > > > technical, with breaks/changes. Moon in Capricorn, Balance

dasha

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > either Sun, Moon or Mars.

> > > > > > > > Broadly if he gets Sun balance, then dasha to follow

will

> be

> > > > Moon

> > > > > , Mars and Rahu when he will complete his formal education.

All

> > > these

> > > > > planets are placed in fourth house, having no direct

connection

> to

> > > > fifth

> > > > > house or fifth lord from lagna. But Moon in own sign, Mars in

> > > > exaltation

> > > > > sign, will although give some disturbance in education, but

> > overall

> > > > > dasha will be fine.

> > > > > > > > If Balance is of Moon, then Mars, Rahu and Jupiter will

be

> > > > broadly

> > > > > giving him education and will shape his career. Rahus sign

lord

> is

> > > > > Saturn placed in eighth house, aspected by Jupiter, he could

> also

> > > take

> > > > > up some educational stream where he will have to sit for some

> > > > > competitive exams. Both Jupiter and Rahu mahadashas can give

> some

> > > > change

> > > > > in educational stream.

> > > > > > > > If dasha balance is of Mars then also Rahu and Jupiter

> > > > mahadashas

> > > > > will be the ones we need to focus on.

> > > > > > > > In matters of education i feel initial period may not be

> > very

> > > > > promising but later in life, he will certainly get into

> technical

> > > > > education and will do well.

> > > > > > > > Waiting for your inputs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sonia

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > Wed, 10 February, 2010 6:57:37 PM

> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I like this, sir. When you explain, you write a long

mail.

> > > > > Personally, I never said anything on KP since it already has

its

> > own

> > > > > divisions. Anyway, I already closed the argument in my

previous

> > > mail.

> > > > I

> > > > > am presenting here the first chart for discussionon education.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am not giving birth details but planetary details so

> that

> > > > > neither D-chart nor Amsa nor KP is used.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Asc - Libra - No Planet

> > > > > > > > 2nd - Scorpio - Jupiter

> > > > > > > > 3rd - Sag - No Planet

> > > > > > > > 4th - Capricorn - Ra, Ma, Moon

> > > > > > > > 5th - Aquarius - No planet

> > > > > > > > 6th - Pisces - No planet

> > > > > > > > 7th - Aries - No Planet

> > > > > > > > 8th - Taurus - Saturn

> > > > > > > > 9th - Gemini - No planet

> > > > > > > > 10th - Cancer - Ketu

> > > > > > > > 11th - Leo - No Planet

> > > > > > > > 12th - Virgo - Sun, Venus, Mercury

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhava chart (As per Vedic concept)where ASC is middle of

> > house

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No change in any planet placement, same as Rasi chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This does not matter if one cannot understand what I

> > > > understood.

> > > > > That

> > > > > > > > > mail was given in general and not to any person

> specific.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I actually meant that if one cannot notice any event

> from

> > > the

> > > > > Natal

> > > > > > > > > Chart does not mean that others cannot notice it, or

it

> > > cannot

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > noticed, or there is essentially the necessity of the

D

> > > Charts

> > > > > to locate

> > > > > > > > > that event. This is not right astrology.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I also meant that if one cannot notice that through

KP,

> > does

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > neecessarily mean that KP is at fault or others cannot

> > > notice

> > > > it

> > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > KP.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One cannot practically spend his time reasoning out

the

> > why

> > > > for

> > > > > every

> > > > > > > > > Horoscope put here on the Forum. Many have other work

> also

> > > to

> > > > do

> > > > > instead

> > > > > > > > > of just engaging in this work. This does not mean that

> the

> > > > chart

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > failed the norms of normal Traditional Astrology or

KP.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I advice members not to show their aversions to any

> > system,

> > > > but

> > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > spend their time on sharing what they already know

> about.

> > If

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > > instance they know more about predictions through D

> > Charts,

> > > > then

> > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > come up with the pointers regarding the same, so that

we

> > can

> > > > > learn more

> > > > > > > > > about how to predict through the same.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > " axeplex "

> > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I could not understand what you mean?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,

> > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Because I have never leant to cook vegetable dish

> from

> > > > > Banana leaves

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > am imcompetent to do so, does not mean, that

> vegetable

> > > > > cannot be

> > > > > > > > > made

> > > > > > > > > > > from banana leaves, or others also cannot.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

com,

> > > Suresh

> > > > > Awasthi

> > > > > > > > > > > <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All

> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I am agree with Dev Ji with finding the

matter

> > > with

> > > > > D-12, D1

> > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > chart made as K.P

> > > > > > > > > > > > shows nothing .or I not able to identify

> > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > suresh awasthi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/9/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@

> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:

SRILANKA

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 3:29 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I am closing this argument. I would definitely

> come

> > > back

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > future. I

> > > > > > > > > > > don't know when. You said one month, it may be

even

> > > three

> > > > > months.

> > > > > > > > > > > whatever you call it, it does not matter to me.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > My aim in this group is not prediction though I

> have

> > > > > participated

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > many discussions including the latest " Factors for

> > > > > Adoption " . You

> > > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > read the second chart given there where D-12

> strongly

> > > > > predicts the

> > > > > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > > > > for 4th and 9th while D-1 does not.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> com,

> > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > KP is specialisation.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Traditional is normal MBBS.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts is the Sonography.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > A Traditional Astroloegr is like the normal

> family

> > > > > Doctor who

> > > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you which part of your body is having a

problem.

> > He

> > > > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sonography for every visit you make him. BUT

> > > > Sonography

> > > > > or an X

> > > > > > > > > Ray

> > > > > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > > > be used to confirm what he has already

> suspected.

> > > This

> > > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > mean

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that one cannot predict from the D Charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > You must check my predictions in this Group,

> where

> > > 80%

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > times

> > > > > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have not used KP, but used traditional and

also

> > > > > explained the

> > > > > > > > > > > Why....

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not seen a single prediction from you

in

> > this

> > > > > Group till

> > > > > > > > > > > date.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you make some predictions using the D

Charts

> > and

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > explain

> > > > > > > > > > > why

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that prediction cannot be made through the

Natal

> > > Chart

> > > > > on a

> > > > > > > > > stand

> > > > > > > > > > > alone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > basis ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets stop this talking and please now put on

> > display

> > > > all

> > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > been propogating uptil now.... by way of

> > > > illustrations.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt if you could even get me 3 Examples

even

> > if

> > > I

> > > > > give you a

> > > > > > > > > > > months

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets not talk about recipes but serve the

> food

> > > > > here...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .

> > com,

> > > > > " axeplex "

> > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar sir,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //Again we are furthering an argument where

> > there

> > > is

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > oppositions. //

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can close the argument if there is no

> > > opposition

> > > > > since it

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > anyway

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unending discussion.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have already said that to confirm what

is

> > seen

> > > > in

> > > > > Natal

> > > > > > > > > Chart,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > theres nothing wrong to confirm D Charts. In

> fact

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > better

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > can read the D Chart in affirmations. //

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What will you do if there is no confirmation

> in

> > > > > D-chart? You

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ignore D-1 or read it as it is.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Yes I agree , that we must look into what

> > > works,

> > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > than

> > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is written or not, in Shastras. But aspects

> > between

> > > > > > > > > shadows(Planets

> > > > > > > > > > > in D

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts) does not make sense.//

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comments on the aspect apart. I already

> wrote

> > > in

> > > > > one of my

> > > > > > > > > > > previous

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mails.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Again You brought in KP. KP if you study

> > well,

> > > > you

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > realise

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a integral part of the Shastras, which uses

> > Nakshtra

> > > > > level

> > > > > > > > > > > predictions

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > profusely, which present day astrologers

have

> > > > > forgotten to

> > > > > > > > > use,

> > > > > > > > > > > due to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intracasy and studies involved in

same.//

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comments.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > // This is false. It is not necessary to

study

> > the

> > > D

> > > > > Charts in

> > > > > > > > > > > order

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to predict for educations. In fact it is not

> > > > nessessary

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > mandatory

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > check D Charts in order to predict well.//

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can do that. I would like to learn

from

> > > you.

> > > > > But

> > > > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bringing KP since KP already has divisions and

> > does

> > > > not

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > > > > > D-chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Who says that our Traditional astrology

> does

> > > not

> > > > > teach us

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > decipher between many births within the same

> > window.

> > > > > What is the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra system meant for ? What is the

> Navamsha

> > > > meant

> > > > > for ? //

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra divides by 2.5 that can divide the

> > group

> > > > to

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > maximum

> > > > > > > > > > > 400

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to 800 people.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Please give us an example where one

cannot

> > > > predict

> > > > > > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Natal Chart, but can do so from the D 24

> > Chart.

> > > //

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall come back on this. May be, I would

> learn

> > > but

> > > > > am anyday

> > > > > > > > > > > open to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > learn.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

.

> > > com,

> > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again we are furthering an argument where

> > there

> > > is

> > > > > no

> > > > > > > > > > > oppositions. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have already said that to confirm what is

> seen

> > > in

> > > > > Natal

> > > > > > > > > Chart,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > theres

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing wrong to confirm D Charts. In fact

> it

> > is

> > > > > better if

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > > > > > read

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the D Chart in affirmations.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree , that we must look into what

> > works,

> > > > > rather than

> > > > > > > > > > > what is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written or not, in Shastras. But aspects

> > between

> > > > > > > > > shadows(Planets

> > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts) does not make sense.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again You brought in KP. KP if you study

> well,

> > > you

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > realise

> > > > > > > > > > > is a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > integral part of the Shastras, which uses

> > > Nakshtra

> > > > > level

> > > > > > > > > > > predictions

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profusely, which present day astrologers

> have

> > > > > forgotten to

> > > > > > > > > use,

> > > > > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intracasy and studies involved in

same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //Without looking at D-24, if someone

> predicts

> > > > > education, it

> > > > > > > > > > > does

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand well and is illogical.//

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is false. It is not necessary to

study

> > the

> > > D

> > > > > Charts in

> > > > > > > > > > > order to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > predict for educations. In fact it is not

> > > > nessessary

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > mandatory to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > check D Charts in order to predict well.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //And when it comes to logic, one can not

> > ignore

> > > > > D-chart.

> > > > > > > > > Let us

> > > > > > > > > > > > > take

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > education, there would have been a group

of

> at

> > > > least

> > > > > 1000 to

> > > > > > > > > > > 2000

> > > > > > > > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born with the same planet placements in

the

> > ASC

> > > > > window and

> > > > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more if we consider next day also. //

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says that our Traditional astrology

does

> > not

> > > > > teach us to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > decipher

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between many births within the same

window.

> > What

> > > > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > system

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meant for ? What is the Navamsha meant for

?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give us an example where one cannot

> > > predict

> > > > > education

> > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart, but can do so from the D 24

> > Chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you show us an illustration on

> how

> > to

> > > > > calculate

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > D24 ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> .

> > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > " axeplex "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never said that natal and D-charts

shall

> > be

> > > > > studied in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > isolation. I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said a guy who can read D-chart can read

D-1

> > > also.

> > > > > Basic

> > > > > > > > > fundas

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same. I am aware that many people in the

> group

> > > are

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > concerned

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > natal chart. And I am not saying they are

> > wrong.

> > > > > Everyone

> > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > own

> > > > > > > > > > > > > style.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most of the people are also logical

> > here.

> > > > And

> > > > > when it

> > > > > > > > > > > comes to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > logic, one can not ignore D-chart. Let us

> take

> > > > > education,

> > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been a group of at least 1000 to 2000

> > > people

> > > > > born with

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet placements in the ASC window and

may

> be

> > > > even

> > > > > more if

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consider

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > next day also. Without looking at D-24, if

> > > someone

> > > > > predicts

> > > > > > > > > > > > > education,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does not stand well and is illogical.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether D-chart is used or Amsas, it has

> to

> > > > exist.

> > > > > We had

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > big

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion on Nadi astrology few days

back.

> > > > Whatever

> > > > > concept

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > used

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi, it stands because of Amsas.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, sometimes we need to consider

> what

> > > > > works. Rather

> > > > > > > > > > > than

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking what is written in Shastras. KP

is

> > not

> > > > > written in

> > > > > > > > > > > Shastras

> > > > > > > > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is accepted since it works.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > .

> > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One cannot have a child without going

> > > through

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > > marriage,

> > > > > > > > > > > Suhaag

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raat,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the pains of labour.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, one cannot become adept in D

> > > Charts

> > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > becoing

> > > > > > > > > > > > > adept

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Predicting from the Natal Chart.

Please

> > tell

> > > > me

> > > > > how can

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > become a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brain Surgeon without passing the

normal

> > > MBBS

> > > > > Degree.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father cannot come after the children

is

> > > born.

> > > > > Its

> > > > > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Father

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comes first in the world.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to , and am sure all the

> > > members

> > > > > here too,

> > > > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > learn how to predcit -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Using Natal Charts + D Charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Only D Charts without using Natal

> > Chart.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The latter option is what your

goodself

> > > > > suggested, but

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > actually

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impossible.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no difference of approach

> > actually,

> > > > > instead its

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirmation of approach which one has

> > taken

> > > > to

> > > > > approach

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart. What one notices in the Natal

> chart

> > > for

> > > > > say the

> > > > > > > > > 5th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house, he

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will confirm that from the sapthamsa

or

> > what

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > observes in

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house from the Natal Chart, will be

> > > conformed

> > > > > from the

> > > > > > > > > > > Dasamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how it goes, and no study of the D

> Charts

> > > can

> > > > be

> > > > > done in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > isolation.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children cannot come without a Father.

> So

> > if

> > > > you

> > > > > want to

> > > > > > > > > > > bring

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter in law (D Charts) home and

are

> > > going

> > > > to

> > > > > meet

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prospective

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl for a match, you will first see

how

> > her

> > > > > Father is

> > > > > > > > > > > (Natal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart),

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then proceed to marry your son

with

> > that

> > > > > Girl

> > > > > > > > > (Combine

> > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice in Natal Chart with

confirmations

> > > from

> > > > > the D

> > > > > > > > > Chart).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > .

> > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not even thinking of searching

> it.

> > > > Just

> > > > > to add

> > > > > > > > > on to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have written, reverse is also true. If

> > > someone

> > > > > is adept

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > D-charts,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working on natal chart is not that

> > difficult

> > > > > since there

> > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difference

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of approach and consideration of

> different

> > > > > factors only

> > > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > > .

> > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an ace serve which I shot.

> > > Nobody

> > > > > will find

> > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shloka

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirming aspects in D Charts. I

> have

> > > > > already

> > > > > > > > > exchanged

> > > > > > > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 200

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mails on this issue about 2 years

> ago,

> > > > where

> > > > > I was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aspects in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts, and in this process

> rummaged

> > > > > through all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > references on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on D Charts. But this time I am

not

> > > > standing

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > support,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rather

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support of same. Like to change

> sides

> > > and

> > > > > switch

> > > > > > > > > over to

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to play the next match...This

makes

> it

> > > > > enjoyable.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So do not actually bother

searching

> > for

> > > > > this. You

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere, except one book and one

> > Line,

> > > > > which I will

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I do not want to encourage

> > > > > astrologers in

> > > > > > > > > > > matching

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > events to aspects in D Charts. I

> want

> > > them

> > > > > to learn

> > > > > > > > > > > > > forecasting,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is predicting an event in advance.

> SO

> > my

> > > > > efforts are

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > students

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and not make it easy for them to

> > connect

> > > > > what has

> > > > > > > > > > > happened

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be very much adept in

> > predicting

> > > > from

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Natal

> > > > > > > > > > > Chart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving to predicting from the

other

> > > > Charts.

> > > > > In fact

> > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to predict even without a birth

> chart

> > in

> > > > > hand or

> > > > > > > > > with no

> > > > > > > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > > > . com,

> > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You misunderstood. I am not

saying

> > to

> > > > > compare KP

> > > > > > > > > sub

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D-charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Off course, that is a wrong

> > comparison.

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > saying,

> > > > > > > > > > > aim of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further divide the small group to

> > reach

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > individual.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, on aspect parts in

> D-charts,

> > I

> > > > > don't know

> > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and if

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written somewhere.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

astrology@

> > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read my last mail

> properly.

> > > > > Nowhere have

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts do not exist. I have

gone

> > > > through

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies before making comments

> on

> > > > same.

> > > > > So I am

> > > > > > > > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > > > > > > aware

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand whenever I make any

> > statement

> > > > and

> > > > > normally

> > > > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pockets in such matters for

> > anybody

> > > to

> > > > > argue or

> > > > > > > > > > > point

> > > > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fingers on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was talking, where can you

> show

> > me

> > > > any

> > > > > shloka

> > > > > > > > > > > -couplet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects to be seen in the D

> > Charts.

> > > I

> > > > > have put

> > > > > > > > > up

> > > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > question

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the members and not abour

> > existence

> > > of

> > > > D

> > > > > Charts,

> > > > > > > > > > > which I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, are there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And do not bring in KP in

every

> > mail

> > > > > please,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reference. I wil, start

talking

> > > about

> > > > > Tarot

> > > > > > > > > Cards

> > > > > > > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jamini, or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi, or Runes, or Crystal

balls

> > and

> > > > > this will

> > > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > become a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mess.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I belive you are trying to say

> > that

> > > > just

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > > > > > > > following

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subs for minute predictions,

in

> > same

> > > > way

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > Traditional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts. But who is negating

> this

> > ?

> > > I

> > > > > am not.

> > > > > > > > > Who

> > > > > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying so. So wheres

> the

> > > > issue

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > know

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comparision of KP Subs and D

> > Charts,

> > > > but

> > > > > thats a

> > > > > > > > > > > wrong

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comparison.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must compare the antras of

every

> > > > > planetwith D

> > > > > > > > > Charts

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subs.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> astrology@

> > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > " axeplex "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All ancient shastras talk of

> > > > > divisions. Though

> > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nowhere

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written D-chart, some

> indications

> > > are

> > > > > there in

> > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts. To

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether someone uses Amsas or

> > > virtual

> > > > > D-chart or

> > > > > > > > > > > sub/

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub-sub as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > per

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is all about identifying an

> > > > > individual in the

> > > > > > > > > > > crowd.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user convenience e.g. for

> > selecting

> > > an

> > > > > option in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > computer,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouse and the other uses

> keyboard

> > > but

> > > > > results

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > same.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see Daily horoscope that

> > > divides

> > > > > whole

> > > > > > > > > > > population

> > > > > > > > > > > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12, do

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satisfied and read chart which

> > > divides

> > > > > the crowd

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > small

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > groups

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then these Amsas, virtual

charts

> > and

> > > > > sub/

> > > > > > > > > sub-sub

> > > > > > > > > > > help

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > break

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small groups further.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is easy to predict when

> > somone

> > > > > approaches

> > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of D-1 only but for blind

> charts,

> > > > > divisions are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > important.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > astrology@

> > > > > .

> > > > > > > > > > > com,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except for postmartem of

> > Charts

> > > ,

> > > > in

> > > > > books

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > Shri

> > > > > > > > > > > > > BV

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rao, Shri Santhanam, and

> > > relating

> > > > > the Life

> > > > > > > > > > > events to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varga

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts, one will never

find

> > the

> > > > > mention of

> > > > > > > > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divisional Charts, in any

> > > Shastra.

> > > > > If any

> > > > > > > > > > > Shastra

> > > > > > > > > > > > > says

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quote the relevant shloka.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact, Shri BV raman in

> one

> > of

> > > > his

> > > > > books,

> > > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explicitly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even Navamsha etc.

are

> > not

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > considered

> > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > positions

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the planets, just the

points

> > of

> > > > > influence

> > > > > > > > > (Not

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > exact

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quoting what I can recall

as

> > the

> > > > > meaning).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My personal view does not

> > matter

> > > > in

> > > > > aspects,

> > > > > > > > > > > because

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are not many who can

> > read

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > Divisional

> > > > > > > > > > > > > charts,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forget

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking of aspects in

> > Divisional

> > > > > Charts.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But to each his own,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does not matter even if

one

> > > reads

> > > > > the chart

> > > > > > > > > > > upisde

> > > > > > > > > > > > > down,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is able to give correct

> > > > predictions.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards and best wishes,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

 

> > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > > > Homepage. http://in./

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Bhaskar ji,i never say/said that.Never....Regards,gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Gopi ji,> > If You mean to say that I do not know the use of D Charts, then You are> mistaken Sir. I have learnt the use (Practical) of D Charts from one of> the best Qualified Astrologers in India, but am not at all inclined to> display the (study)same over here, for various reasons....> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > I also say the same thing and agree with you Bhaskar sir,What's the> > problem?...No problem!!> > -gopi.> > , "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > I once again say the same thing...> > >> > > If one cannot prepare a vegetable dish from the banana leaf, does> not> > > mean that others cannot do it...> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > There is only Natal chart here.No bhava or navamsa!!!> > > > Regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > Sorry,> > > > >> > > > > We have seen people predicting very well from -> > > > >> > > > > 1) Just the Natal Chart,> > > > >> > > > > 2) Natal and Navamsa.> > > > >> > > > > 3) Natal and Parashari Bhav Chalit.> > > > >> > > > > None of the above use the other charts......> > > > >> > > > > Let us not fool ourselves that we can predict only from the D> > Charts> > > > and> > > > > cannot predict from the Natal Chart. Is this then the only> > astrology> > > > we> > > > > have learnt ?> > > > >> > > > > And how many of those who propose D Charts have used these and> > > > predicted> > > > > for future for any individual in any of these forums or groups> > uptil> > > > now> > > > > ?> > > > >> > > > > Can they show case any examples exactly where the event is not> > > > > noticeable from the Natal Chart, but is only noticeable from the> D> > > > Chart> > > > > ? Please give us examples of well known personalities and not> pick> > > up> > > > > charts which cannot be verified or birth details which cannot be> > > > > authenticated.> > > > >> > > > > If they say that D Charts are so important, then how come> > everybody> > > is> > > > > predicting from Natal Charts, and we have not seen anybody> amongst> > > > > thoudands of astrologer using D Charts uptil now ? And if its so> > > > > important then they should be able to do this in every Horoscope> > and> > > > > prove that ? Why to search for such examples?> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Sonia ji,> > > > > > sorry to interupt.Thats how it is.we can not> conclude/determine> > > with> > > > > > Rasi chart only.....Pleease note that i am not following the> > > > > thread....> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , Sonia> > Mehdiratta> > > > > > sonia_mehdiratta@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dev Ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please tell me what line of education did he take.> > > > > > > 'Yes, 6th lord Ju is involved but it is aspect and that from> > 2nd> > > > > > house,> > > > > > > 6th shall not come in picture, Ju is not directly linked> with> > > 5th.> > > > > And> > > > > > > also there is no Dasa till 2004 '> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jupiter is aspecting fifth lord Saturn, so how is it not> > > directly> > > > > > linked? When we are seeing the houses/lords getting connected> to> > > > fifth> > > > > > house/lord, this certainly needs a mention.> > > > > > > Sir dashas will definitely influence the quality of> education> > > and> > > > > its> > > > > > type. But repeated connection of fifth, sixth and eighth> houses> > in> > > > > this> > > > > > horoscope will certainly have its say in his education.> > > > > > > What did he do after Bachelors? Since he is currently> running> > > the> > > > > > dasha of Jupiter, mutually aspecting fifth lord Saturn.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sonia> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 11 February, 2010 3:17:17 PM> > > > > > > Re: SRILANKA> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Soniaji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have a song with Sonia and moment I read your name, it> > reminds> > > > me> > > > > > that. .... Lighter vein....> > > > > > >> > > > > > > // From lagna fifth lord Saturn is placed in eighth house> > > aspected> > > > > by> > > > > > sixth lord Jupiter. //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Yes, 6th lord Ju is involved but it is aspect and that from> > 2nd> > > > > house,> > > > > > 6th shall not come in picture, Ju is not directly linked with> > 5th.> > > > And> > > > > > also there is no Dasa till 2004 //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > // From Moon, fifth lord is Venus placed in ninth with sixth> > > lord> > > > > > Mercury and eighth lord Sun. //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This is true, conjunction.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > // From Mercury ( significator) Saturn is fifth and sixth> > lord.> > > > > Eighth> > > > > > lord from Mercury is Mars, placed in fifth from it. //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 6th is Valid if Sa Dasa is involved.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > // That is how i mentioned the common factor.> > > > > > > Kindly give me the feed back about his education, then i> will> > > > share> > > > > > other point- technical or non technical.> > > > > > > I did this analysis before you posted that mail with> nakshatra> > > > > > details. //> > > > > > >> > > > > > > There was no disturbance in education. It was continuous> till> > > > > > Bachelors.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia> > > > Mehdiratta> > > > > > <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > From lagna fifth lord Saturn is placed in eighth house> > > aspected> > > > by> > > > > > sixth lord Jupiter.> > > > > > > > From Moon, fifth lord is Venus placed in ninth with sixth> > lord> > > > > > Mercury and eighth lord Sun.> > > > > > > > From Mercury ( significator) Saturn is fifth and sixth> lord.> > > > > Eighth> > > > > > lord from Mercury is Mars, placed in fifth from it.> > > > > > > > That is how i mentioned the common factor.> > > > > > > > Kindly give me the feed back about his education, then i> > will> > > > > share> > > > > > other point- technical or non technical.> > > > > > > > I did this analysis before you posted that mail with> > nakshatra> > > > > > details.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sonia> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thu, 11 February, 2010 2:39:12 PM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Soniaji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > // If we just see the basic chart, fifth lord Saturn is> > placed> > > > in> > > > > > eighth house in friendly sign, aspected by Jupiter.From Moon> > sign,> > > > > > Capricorn, fifth house has Saturn. Fifth lord Venus is> > > debilitated,> > > > > but> > > > > > with exalted Mercury and Sun, no planet is aspecting this> > > planetary> > > > > > conjunction. Mercury is in exaltation sign, fifth house from> > > Mercury> > > > > has> > > > > > exalted Mars, Rahu and Moon. Common factor from these three is> > > > > > combination of fifth, sixth and eighth house lords.Education> > > should> > > > be> > > > > > technical, with breaks/changes. //> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > How come 5th, 6th and 8th is common?> > > > > > > > On what basis, you are saying technical education?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > // All these planets are placed in fourth house, having no> > > > direct> > > > > > connection to fifth house or fifth lord from lagna. But Moon> in> > > own> > > > > > sign, Mars in exaltation sign, will although give some> > disturbance> > > > in> > > > > > education, but overall dasha will be fine.//> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Shall I consider this or not after I told you Dasa starts> > from> > > > > Moon?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > // If Balance is of Moon, then Mars, Rahu and Jupiter will> > be> > > > > > broadly giving him education and will shape his career. Rahus> > sign> > > > > lord> > > > > > is Saturn placed in eighth house, aspected by Jupiter, he> could> > > also> > > > > > take up some educational stream where he will have to sit for> > some> > > > > > competitive exams. Both Jupiter and Rahu mahadashas can give> > some> > > > > change> > > > > > in educational stream.//> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Please elaborate since Dasa starts from Moon as written in> > > > earlier> > > > > > mail.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > // In matters of education i feel initial period may not> be> > > very> > > > > > promising but later in life, he will certainly get into> > technical> > > > > > education and will do well.//> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Shall come back on this.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia> > > > > Mehdiratta> > > > > > <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dev Ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > If we just see the basic chart, fifth lord Saturn is> > placed> > > in> > > > > > eighth house in friendly sign, aspected by Jupiter.From Moon> > sign,> > > > > > Capricorn, fifth house has Saturn. Fifth lord Venus is> > > debilitated,> > > > > but> > > > > > with exalted Mercury and Sun, no planet is aspecting this> > > planetary> > > > > > conjunction. Mercury is in exaltation sign, fifth house from> > > Mercury> > > > > has> > > > > > exalted Mars, Rahu and Moon. Common factor from these three is> > > > > > combination of fifth, sixth and eighth house/lords. Education> > > should> > > > > be> > > > > > technical, with breaks/changes. Moon in Capricorn, Balance> dasha> > > > will> > > > > be> > > > > > either Sun, Moon or Mars.> > > > > > > > > Broadly if he gets Sun balance, then dasha to follow> will> > be> > > > > Moon> > > > > > , Mars and Rahu when he will complete his formal education.> All> > > > these> > > > > > planets are placed in fourth house, having no direct> connection> > to> > > > > fifth> > > > > > house or fifth lord from lagna. But Moon in own sign, Mars in> > > > > exaltation> > > > > > sign, will although give some disturbance in education, but> > > overall> > > > > > dasha will be fine.> > > > > > > > > If Balance is of Moon, then Mars, Rahu and Jupiter will> be> > > > > broadly> > > > > > giving him education and will shape his career. Rahus sign> lord> > is> > > > > > Saturn placed in eighth house, aspected by Jupiter, he could> > also> > > > take> > > > > > up some educational stream where he will have to sit for some> > > > > > competitive exams. Both Jupiter and Rahu mahadashas can give> > some> > > > > change> > > > > > in educational stream.> > > > > > > > > If dasha balance is of Mars then also Rahu and Jupiter> > > > > mahadashas> > > > > > will be the ones we need to focus on.> > > > > > > > > In matters of education i feel initial period may not be> > > very> > > > > > promising but later in life, he will certainly get into> > technical> > > > > > education and will do well.> > > > > > > > > Waiting for your inputs.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sonia> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Wed, 10 February, 2010 6:57:37 PM> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: SRILANKA> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I like this, sir. When you explain, you write a long> mail.> > > > > > Personally, I never said anything on KP since it already has> its> > > own> > > > > > divisions. Anyway, I already closed the argument in my> previous> > > > mail.> > > > > I> > > > > > am presenting here the first chart for discussionon education.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I am not giving birth details but planetary details so> > that> > > > > > neither D-chart nor Amsa nor KP is used.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Asc - Libra - No Planet> > > > > > > > > 2nd - Scorpio - Jupiter> > > > > > > > > 3rd - Sag - No Planet> > > > > > > > > 4th - Capricorn - Ra, Ma, Moon> > > > > > > > > 5th - Aquarius - No planet> > > > > > > > > 6th - Pisces - No planet> > > > > > > > > 7th - Aries - No Planet> > > > > > > > > 8th - Taurus - Saturn> > > > > > > > > 9th - Gemini - No planet> > > > > > > > > 10th - Cancer - Ketu> > > > > > > > > 11th - Leo - No Planet> > > > > > > > > 12th - Virgo - Sun, Venus, Mercury> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhava chart (As per Vedic concept)where ASC is middle of> > > house> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > No change in any planet placement, same as Rasi chart.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This does not matter if one cannot understand what I> > > > > understood.> > > > > > That> > > > > > > > > > mail was given in general and not to any person> > specific.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I actually meant that if one cannot notice any event> > from> > > > the> > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > Chart does not mean that others cannot notice it, or> it> > > > cannot> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > noticed, or there is essentially the necessity of the> D> > > > Charts> > > > > > to locate> > > > > > > > > > that event. This is not right astrology.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I also meant that if one cannot notice that through> KP,> > > does> > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > neecessarily mean that KP is at fault or others cannot> > > > notice> > > > > it> > > > > > through> > > > > > > > > > KP.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > One cannot practically spend his time reasoning out> the> > > why> > > > > for> > > > > > every> > > > > > > > > > Horoscope put here on the Forum. Many have other work> > also> > > > to> > > > > do> > > > > > instead> > > > > > > > > > of just engaging in this work. This does not mean that> > the> > > > > chart> > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > failed the norms of normal Traditional Astrology or> KP.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I advice members not to show their aversions to any> > > system,> > > > > but> > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > > spend their time on sharing what they already know> > about.> > > If> > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > instance they know more about predictions through D> > > Charts,> > > > > then> > > > > > please> > > > > > > > > > come up with the pointers regarding the same, so that> we> > > can> > > > > > learn more> > > > > > > > > > about how to predict through the same.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I could not understand what you mean?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology,> > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Because I have never leant to cook vegetable dish> > from> > > > > > Banana leaves> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > am imcompetent to do so, does not mean, that> > vegetable> > > > > > cannot be> > > > > > > > > > made> > > > > > > > > > > > from banana leaves, or others also cannot.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> com,> > > > Suresh> > > > > > Awasthi> > > > > > > > > > > > <sureshawasthi87@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I am agree with Dev Ji with finding the> matter> > > > with> > > > > > D-12, D1> > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > chart made as K.P> > > > > > > > > > > > > shows nothing .or I not able to identify> > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > suresh awasthi> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/9/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:> SRILANKA> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 3:29 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am closing this argument. I would definitely> > come> > > > back> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > future. I> > > > > > > > > > > > don't know when. You said one month, it may be> even> > > > three> > > > > > months.> > > > > > > > > > > > whatever you call it, it does not matter to me.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > My aim in this group is not prediction though I> > have> > > > > > participated> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > many discussions including the latest "Factors for> > > > > > Adoption". You> > > > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > > > read the second chart given there where D-12> > strongly> > > > > > predicts the> > > > > > > > > > case> > > > > > > > > > > > for 4th and 9th while D-1 does not.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com,> > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP is specialisation.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Traditional is normal MBBS.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts is the Sonography.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Traditional Astroloegr is like the normal> > family> > > > > > Doctor who> > > > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > > > tell> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you which part of your body is having a> problem.> > > He> > > > > does> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > need> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sonography for every visit you make him. BUT> > > > > Sonography> > > > > > or an X> > > > > > > > > > Ray> > > > > > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be used to confirm what he has already> > suspected.> > > > This> > > > > > does not> > > > > > > > > > mean> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that one cannot predict from the D Charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You must check my predictions in this Group,> > where> > > > 80%> > > > > > of the> > > > > > > > > > times> > > > > > > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have not used KP, but used traditional and> also> > > > > > explained the> > > > > > > > > > > > Why....> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not seen a single prediction from you> in> > > this> > > > > > Group till> > > > > > > > > > > > date.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you make some predictions using the D> Charts> > > and> > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > explain> > > > > > > > > > > > why> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that prediction cannot be made through the> Natal> > > > Chart> > > > > > on a> > > > > > > > > > stand> > > > > > > > > > > > alone> > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets stop this talking and please now put on> > > display> > > > > all> > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > > > > been propogating uptil now.... by way of> > > > > illustrations.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt if you could even get me 3 Examples> even> > > if> > > > I> > > > > > give you a> > > > > > > > > > > > months> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time to do this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So lets not talk about recipes but serve the> > food> > > > > > here...> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > com,> > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //Again we are furthering an argument where> > > there> > > > is> > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > > > > oppositions. //> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can close the argument if there is no> > > > opposition> > > > > > since it> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > anyway> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unending discussion.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //I have already said that to confirm what> is> > > seen> > > > > in> > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > Chart,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > theres nothing wrong to confirm D Charts. In> > fact> > > it> > > > > is> > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can read the D Chart in affirmations. //> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What will you do if there is no confirmation> > in> > > > > > D-chart? You> > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ignore D-1 or read it as it is.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Yes I agree , that we must look into what> > > > works,> > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is written or not, in Shastras. But aspects> > > between> > > > > > > > > > shadows(Planets> > > > > > > > > > > > in D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts) does not make sense.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comments on the aspect apart. I already> > wrote> > > > in> > > > > > one of my> > > > > > > > > > > > previous> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mails.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Again You brought in KP. KP if you study> > > well,> > > > > you> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > realise> > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a integral part of the Shastras, which uses> > > Nakshtra> > > > > > level> > > > > > > > > > > > predictions> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profusely, which present day astrologers> have> > > > > > forgotten to> > > > > > > > > > use,> > > > > > > > > > > > due to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intracasy and studies involved in> same.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comments.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // This is false. It is not necessary to> study> > > the> > > > D> > > > > > Charts in> > > > > > > > > > > > order> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to predict for educations. In fact it is not> > > > > nessessary> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > mandatory> > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > check D Charts in order to predict well.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can do that. I would like to learn> from> > > > you.> > > > > > But> > > > > > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bringing KP since KP already has divisions and> > > does> > > > > not> > > > > > need> > > > > > > > > > > > D-chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Who says that our Traditional astrology> > does> > > > not> > > > > > teach us> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > decipher between many births within the same> > > window.> > > > > > What is the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra system meant for ? What is the> > Navamsha> > > > > meant> > > > > > for ? //> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra divides by 2.5 that can divide the> > > group> > > > > to> > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > maximum> > > > > > > > > > > > 400> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to 800 people.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // Please give us an example where one> cannot> > > > > predict> > > > > > > > > > education> > > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Natal Chart, but can do so from the D 24> > > Chart.> > > > //> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall come back on this. May be, I would> > learn> > > > but> > > > > > am anyday> > > > > > > > > > > > open to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > learn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> .> > > > com,> > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again we are furthering an argument where> > > there> > > > is> > > > > > no> > > > > > > > > > > > oppositions. I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have already said that to confirm what is> > seen> > > > in> > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > Chart,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > theres> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing wrong to confirm D Charts. In fact> > it> > > is> > > > > > better if> > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > can> > > > > > > > > > > > > > read> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the D Chart in affirmations.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree , that we must look into what> > > works,> > > > > > rather than> > > > > > > > > > > > what is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written or not, in Shastras. But aspects> > > between> > > > > > > > > > shadows(Planets> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts) does not make sense.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again You brought in KP. KP if you study> > well,> > > > you> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > realise> > > > > > > > > > > > is a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > integral part of the Shastras, which uses> > > > Nakshtra> > > > > > level> > > > > > > > > > > > predictions> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profusely, which present day astrologers> > have> > > > > > forgotten to> > > > > > > > > > use,> > > > > > > > > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the intracasy and studies involved in> same.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //Without looking at D-24, if someone> > predicts> > > > > > education, it> > > > > > > > > > > > does> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand well and is illogical.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is false. It is not necessary to> study> > > the> > > > D> > > > > > Charts in> > > > > > > > > > > > order to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > predict for educations. In fact it is not> > > > > nessessary> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > mandatory to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > check D Charts in order to predict well.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //And when it comes to logic, one can not> > > ignore> > > > > > D-chart.> > > > > > > > > > Let us> > > > > > > > > > > > > > take> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > education, there would have been a group> of> > at> > > > > least> > > > > > 1000 to> > > > > > > > > > > > 2000> > > > > > > > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born with the same planet placements in> the> > > ASC> > > > > > window and> > > > > > > > > > may> > > > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more if we consider next day also. //> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who says that our Traditional astrology> does> > > not> > > > > > teach us to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > decipher> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > between many births within the same> window.> > > What> > > > > is> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > system> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meant for ? What is the Navamsha meant for> ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give us an example where one cannot> > > > predict> > > > > > education> > > > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart, but can do so from the D 24> > > Chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please can you show us an illustration on> > how> > > to> > > > > > calculate> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > D24 ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > .> > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never said that natal and D-charts> shall> > > be> > > > > > studied in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > isolation. I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > said a guy who can read D-chart can read> D-1> > > > also.> > > > > > Basic> > > > > > > > > > fundas> > > > > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same. I am aware that many people in the> > group> > > > are> > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > concerned> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > natal chart. And I am not saying they are> > > wrong.> > > > > > Everyone> > > > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > > > > > > style.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most of the people are also logical> > > here.> > > > > And> > > > > > when it> > > > > > > > > > > > comes to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > logic, one can not ignore D-chart. Let us> > take> > > > > > education,> > > > > > > > > > there> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have been a group of at least 1000 to 2000> > > > people> > > > > > born with> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > same> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet placements in the ASC window and> may> > be> > > > > even> > > > > > more if> > > > > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consider> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > next day also. Without looking at D-24, if> > > > someone> > > > > > predicts> > > > > > > > > > > > > > education,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it does not stand well and is illogical.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether D-chart is used or Amsas, it has> > to> > > > > exist.> > > > > > We had> > > > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > big> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion on Nadi astrology few days> back.> > > > > Whatever> > > > > > concept> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > used> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi, it stands because of Amsas.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, sometimes we need to consider> > what> > > > > > works. Rather> > > > > > > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking what is written in Shastras. KP> is> > > not> > > > > > written in> > > > > > > > > > > > Shastras> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is accepted since it works.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > .> > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One cannot have a child without going> > > > through> > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > marriage,> > > > > > > > > > > > Suhaag> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raat,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the pains of labour.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, one cannot become adept in D> > > > Charts> > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > becoing> > > > > > > > > > > > > > adept> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Predicting from the Natal Chart.> Please> > > tell> > > > > me> > > > > > how can> > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > become a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brain Surgeon without passing the> normal> > > > MBBS> > > > > > Degree.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father cannot come after the children> is> > > > born.> > > > > > Its> > > > > > > > > > always> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Father> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comes first in the world.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to , and am sure all the> > > > members> > > > > > here too,> > > > > > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > learn how to predcit -> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a) Using Natal Charts + D Charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b) Only D Charts without using Natal> > > Chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The latter option is what your> goodself> > > > > > suggested, but> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impossible.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no difference of approach> > > actually,> > > > > > instead its> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirmation of approach which one has> > > taken> > > > > to> > > > > > approach> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart. What one notices in the Natal> > chart> > > > for> > > > > > say the> > > > > > > > > > 5th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > house, he> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will confirm that from the sapthamsa> or> > > what> > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > observes in> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house from the Natal Chart, will be> > > > conformed> > > > > > from the> > > > > > > > > > > > Dasamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how it goes, and no study of the D> > Charts> > > > can> > > > > be> > > > > > done in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > isolation.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children cannot come without a Father.> > So> > > if> > > > > you> > > > > > want to> > > > > > > > > > > > bring> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daughter in law (D Charts) home and> are> > > > going> > > > > to> > > > > > meet> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prospective> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girl for a match, you will first see> how> > > her> > > > > > Father is> > > > > > > > > > > > (Natal> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chart),> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then proceed to marry your son> with> > > that> > > > > > Girl> > > > > > > > > > (Combine> > > > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice in Natal Chart with> confirmations> > > > from> > > > > > the D> > > > > > > > > > Chart).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > .> > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not even thinking of searching> > it.> > > > > Just> > > > > > to add> > > > > > > > > > on to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have written, reverse is also true. If> > > > someone> > > > > > is adept> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > D-charts,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working on natal chart is not that> > > difficult> > > > > > since there> > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difference> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of approach and consideration of> > different> > > > > > factors only> > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > > .> > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an ace serve which I shot.> > > > Nobody> > > > > > will find> > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shloka> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confirming aspects in D Charts. I> > have> > > > > > already> > > > > > > > > > exchanged> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 200> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mails on this issue about 2 years> > ago,> > > > > where> > > > > > I was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aspects in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts, and in this process> > rummaged> > > > > > through all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > references on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on D Charts. But this time I am> not> > > > > standing> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > support,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support of same. Like to change> > sides> > > > and> > > > > > switch> > > > > > > > > > over to> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > side> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to play the next match...This> makes> > it> > > > > > enjoyable.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So do not actually bother> searching> > > for> > > > > > this. You> > > > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anywhere, except one book and one> > > Line,> > > > > > which I will> > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > say> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I do not want to encourage> > > > > > astrologers in> > > > > > > > > > > > matching> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > events to aspects in D Charts. I> > want> > > > them> > > > > > to learn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > forecasting,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is predicting an event in advance.> > SO> > > my> > > > > > efforts are> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > help> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > students> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and not make it easy for them to> > > connect> > > > > > what has> > > > > > > > > > > > happened> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be very much adept in> > > predicting> > > > > from> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Natal> > > > > > > > > > > > Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving to predicting from the> other> > > > > Charts.> > > > > > In fact> > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > able> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to predict even without a birth> > chart> > > in> > > > > > hand or> > > > > > > > > > with no> > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@> > > > > > . com,> > > > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You misunderstood. I am not> saying> > > to> > > > > > compare KP> > > > > > > > > > sub> > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D-charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Off course, that is a wrong> > > comparison.> > > > I> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > saying,> > > > > > > > > > > > aim of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further divide the small group to> > > reach> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > individual.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, on aspect parts in> > D-charts,> > > I> > > > > > don't know> > > > > > > > > > > > where> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written somewhere.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> astrology@> > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read my last mail> > properly.> > > > > > Nowhere have> > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts do not exist. I have> gone> > > > > through> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > Traditional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies before making comments> > on> > > > > same.> > > > > > So I am> > > > > > > > > > > > fully> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aware> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand whenever I make any> > > statement> > > > > and> > > > > > normally> > > > > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leave> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pockets in such matters for> > > anybody> > > > to> > > > > > argue or> > > > > > > > > > > > point> > > > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fingers on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was talking, where can you> > show> > > me> > > > > any> > > > > > shloka> > > > > > > > > > > > -couplet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects to be seen in the D> > > Charts.> > > > I> > > > > > have put> > > > > > > > > > up> > > > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > question> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the members and not abour> > > existence> > > > of> > > > > D> > > > > > Charts,> > > > > > > > > > > > which I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, are there.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And do not bring in KP in> every> > > mail> > > > > > please,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unnecessarily> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reference. I wil, start> talking> > > > about> > > > > > Tarot> > > > > > > > > > Cards> > > > > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jamini, or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi, or Runes, or Crystal> balls> > > and> > > > > > this will> > > > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > > > > > become a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mess.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I belive you are trying to say> > > that> > > > > just> > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > > > > following> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subs for minute predictions,> in> > > same> > > > > way> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > Traditional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologer> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D Charts. But who is negating> > this> > > ?> > > > I> > > > > > am not.> > > > > > > > > > Who> > > > > > > > > > > > says> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying so. So wheres> > the> > > > > issue> > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > know> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comparision of KP Subs and D> > > Charts,> > > > > but> > > > > > thats a> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comparison.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must compare the antras of> every> > > > > > planetwith D> > > > > > > > > > Charts> > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > astrology@> > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All ancient shastras talk of> > > > > > divisions. Though> > > > > > > > > > > > there> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nowhere> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > written D-chart, some> > indications> > > > are> > > > > > there in> > > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts. To> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether someone uses Amsas or> > > > virtual> > > > > > D-chart or> > > > > > > > > > > > sub/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub-sub as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > per> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KP,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is all about identifying an> > > > > > individual in the> > > > > > > > > > > > crowd.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user convenience e.g. for> > > selecting> > > > an> > > > > > option in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > computer,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uses> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouse and the other uses> > keyboard> > > > but> > > > > > results> > > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > > > same.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We see Daily horoscope that> > > > divides> > > > > > whole> > > > > > > > > > > > population> > > > > > > > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12, do> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > satisfied and read chart which> > > > divides> > > > > > the crowd> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > small> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > groups> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then these Amsas, virtual> charts> > > and> > > > > > sub/> > > > > > > > > > sub-sub> > > > > > > > > > > > help> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > break> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > small groups further.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is easy to predict when> > > somone> > > > > > approaches> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of D-1 only but for blind> > charts,> > > > > > divisions are> > > > > > > > > > > > > > important.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > astrology@> > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > > com,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except for postmartem of> > > Charts> > > > ,> > > > > in> > > > > > books> > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Shri> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BV> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raman,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shri KN> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rao, Shri Santhanam, and> > > > relating> > > > > > the Life> > > > > > > > > > > > events to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Varga> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charts, one will never> find> > > the> > > > > > mention of> > > > > > > > > > > > aspects> > > > > > > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divisional Charts, in any> > > > Shastra.> > > > > > If any> > > > > > > > > > > > Shastra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > says> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quote the relevant shloka.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact, Shri BV raman in> > one> > > of> > > > > his> > > > > > books,> > > > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explicitly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that even Navamsha etc.> are> > > not> > > > to> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > > considered> > > > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > positions> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the planets, just the> points> > > of> > > > > > influence> > > > > > > > > > (Not> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > exact> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > words,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quoting what I can recall> as> > > the> > > > > > meaning).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My personal view does not> > > matter> > > > > in> > > > > > aspects,> > > > > > > > > > > > because> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feel> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are not many who can> > > read> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Divisional> > > > > > > > > > > > > > charts,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forget> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talking of aspects in> > > Divisional> > > > > > Charts.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But to each his own,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does not matter even if> one> > > > reads> > > > > > the chart> > > > > > > > > > > > upisde> > > > > > > > > > > > > > down,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is able to give correct> > > > > predictions.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards and best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your> > > > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > > > Homepage. http://in./> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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