Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Dear Vishnu Mohan ji, Day before yesterday, I wanted to get a match making done from one Pundit in Bikaner. I called him up, and my first sentence to him was " JaiShriKrishna, I am Bhaskar Jyotish from Bombay. How much you charge for Match making normally " . He mentioned his price and after listening to it, you know what I replied him ? I told him " I will not pay you what you are asking but will pay you 5 times more. Please give me your Bank account Numbers and I will call you tomorrow. " He sent me an sms of his Bank account Numbers and next day I called him to tell him that the Bank at Bombay say that his account number is not right, and I have arranged somebody to personally hand him the money in Bikaner itself who should come to his place within half an hour. This good man said " Its okay. Let your man come whenever he can. In the meanwhile I have already studied the charts.....etc. " That is the way to approach astrologers and the kind of such people. You do not like to pay Donation as Fees, is your problem. They have not forced you to approach them. regards, Bhaskar. , Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji > You had a good experience,you shared it here. > I brought forward a bad experience of my friend ,thats it.I didnt know who Karve yogi or Pinky karve is as i have not met them.So i dont need to badmouth anybody nor thats my intention. > I came to know Karve Yogi is a good person only through you. > There are various astrologers who charge fee for birth time rectifications cum astrology but they are very clear about the fees and they dont call it donation. > For me if they had call it a fee of Rs.1500 or 10000, Â i wouldnt mind ,but i dont entertain anybody who call fee as donation Just like what the schools,colleges too. > By the way i have written nothing about Yogi Karve,who is said to be not attached to money > By the way, i know how to rectify Birth time myself and i have learnt without losing much sleep .Just that i want to double check with somebody who is said to be able to do it with supernatural powers so that element of human error is not involved. > For me fee is different and donation is different. > > Thanks and best wishes > vishnu > > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve > > Saturday, February 27, 2010, 4:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > Vishnu ji, > > > > In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she > > asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a donation, > > but you are not the person who is going to " Decide " . It is their > > prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any > > offerings. > > > > Intentions of marrying after the " Suhaag raat " is not the right > > intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by > > expecting too much for free..... > > > > One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense of > > culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one > > approaches. To ask for " Free " is a shame for any Indian . But yet we see > > this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not > > give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and > > Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless > > vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. > > > > Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? Or > > did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the > > predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being taken > > for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started > > asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > > purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. One > > has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. > > Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately learns > > to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for whom > > one does so... All this for petty money ? > > > > And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- in > > pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry afterwards > > if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind > > their backs..... > > > > Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for > > predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he > > wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call > > back after the payment is made... > > > > The moment someone says " I want this " and does not reciprocate what he > > receives in any cash or kind , that moment " Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, > > Shanti, Keerti " these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vishnu " > > <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > > > > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My > > friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time > > is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as donation > > for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will proceed.My > > friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to donate > > some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee and > > not a donation. > > > > > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > > > > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel i > > cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > > > > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > vishnu > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " surajyg " > > jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told me > > about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has seen > > some predictions go way off. > > > > Regards > > > > Sooraj > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Dear Vishnu ji, When you come back to write about people like Yogi Karve ji and his family, and if you think I am going to sit quiet like a mouse and listen to all this bakwaas, then you are mistaken. You did not like their asking Fees. You cannot afford to pay their Fees. You then write that the intentions were to pay some amount after the predictions were made. You then write that you dont like paying Fees as donations. What nonsense is this ? There is too much of " You " involved here.Remove that and you will be a happy man. I repeat - People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts purchasable by money. Please show me the English you are capable of using... Before doing that remember I have nothing personal against you. Only sick of such attitudes, thats all. regards, Bhaskar. , Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji > //People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > purchasable by money.// > > //if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind > their backs...// > > No personal remarks pls.I know enough English to write personal remarks against anybody but i dont want to argue and waste my time and energy as those resources are limited  and do not come back. > Anyway thanks for sharing your experience at the start. > > Thanks and best wishes > Vishnu. > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve > > Saturday, February 27, 2010, 4:10 PM > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Vishnu ji, > > > > In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she > > asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a donation, > > but you are not the person who is going to " Decide " . It is their > > prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any > > offerings. > > > > Intentions of marrying after the " Suhaag raat " is not the right > > intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by > > expecting too much for free..... > > > > One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense of > > culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one > > approaches. To ask for " Free " is a shame for any Indian . But yet we see > > this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not > > give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and > > Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless > > vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. > > > > Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? Or > > did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the > > predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being taken > > for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started > > asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > > purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. One > > has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. > > Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately learns > > to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for whom > > one does so... All this for petty money ? > > > > And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- in > > pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry afterwards > > if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind > > their backs..... > > > > Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for > > predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he > > wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call > > back after the payment is made... > > > > The moment someone says " I want this " and does not reciprocate what he > > receives in any cash or kind , that moment " Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, > > Shanti, Keerti " these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vishnu " > > <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > > > > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My > > friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time > > is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as donation > > for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will proceed.My > > friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to donate > > some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee and > > not a donation. > > > > > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > > > > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel i > > cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > > > > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > vishnu > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " surajyg " > > jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told me > > about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has seen > > some predictions go way off. > > > > Regards > > > > Sooraj > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Dear bhaskarjiEverybody born on this earth is different.Thanks and best wishesvishnu--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 4:54 AM Dear Vishnu Mohan ji, Day before yesterday, I wanted to get a match making done from one Pundit in Bikaner. I called him up, and my first sentence to him was " JaiShriKrishna, I am Bhaskar Jyotish from Bombay. How much you charge for Match making normally". He mentioned his price and after listening to it, you know what I replied him ? I told him "I will not pay you what you are asking but will pay you 5 times more. Please give me your Bank account Numbers and I will call you tomorrow. " He sent me an sms of his Bank account Numbers and next day I called him to tell him that the Bank at Bombay say that his account number is not right, and I have arranged somebody to personally hand him the money in Bikaner itself who should come to his place within half an hour. This good man said "Its okay. Let your man come whenever he can. In the meanwhile I have already studied the charts.....etc. " That is the way to approach astrologers and the kind of such people. You do not like to pay Donation as Fees, is your problem. They have not forced you to approach them. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Vishnu Mohan <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji > You had a good experience,you shared it here. > I brought forward a bad experience of my friend ,thats it.I didnt know who Karve yogi or Pinky karve is as i have not met them.So i dont need to badmouth anybody nor thats my intention. > I came to know Karve Yogi is a good person only through you. > There are various astrologers who charge fee for birth time rectifications cum astrology but they are very clear about the fees and they dont call it donation. > For me if they had call it a fee of Rs.1500 or 10000, Â i wouldnt mind ,but i dont entertain anybody who call fee as donation Just like what the schools,colleges too. > By the way i have written nothing about Yogi Karve,who is said to be not attached to money > By the way, i know how to rectify Birth time myself and i have learnt without losing much sleep .Just that i want to double check with somebody who is said to be able to do it with supernatural powers so that element of human error is not involved. > For me fee is different and donation is different. > > Thanks and best wishes > vishnu > > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve > ancient_indian_ astrology > Saturday, February 27, 2010, 4:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > Vishnu ji, > > > > In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she > > asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a donation, > > but you are not the person who is going to "Decide". It is their > > prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any > > offerings. > > > > Intentions of marrying after the "Suhaag raat" is not the right > > intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by > > expecting too much for free..... > > > > One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense of > > culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one > > approaches. To ask for "Free" is a shame for any Indian . But yet we see > > this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not > > give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and > > Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless > > vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. > > > > Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? Or > > did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the > > predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being taken > > for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started > > asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > > purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. One > > has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. > > Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately learns > > to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for whom > > one does so... All this for petty money ? > > > > And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- in > > pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry afterwards > > if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind > > their backs..... > > > > Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for > > predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he > > wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call > > back after the payment is made... > > > > The moment someone says "I want this " and does not reciprocate what he > > receives in any cash or kind , that moment "Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, > > Shanti, Keerti" these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vishnu" > > <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > > > > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My > > friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time > > is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as donation > > for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will proceed.My > > friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to donate > > some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee and > > not a donation. > > > > > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > > > > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel i > > cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > > > > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > vishnu > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "surajyg" > > jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told me > > about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has seen > > some predictions go way off. > > > > Regards > > > > Sooraj > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Dear Bhaskarji just like it is decision of somebody to offer their services,it is for me to decide whether i need to pay them the demanded amount and agreeing beforehand.It is entirely upto to " me " to decide such things.That is why so much of " me " is involved. It is your personal decision to support or not to support somebody's family.I have no problem with it. I dont spend much time in writing non-astrological contents nowadays.so cannot showcase my english for the same.And you also know,I have nothing personal against you too Thanks and best wishes vishnu , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vishnu ji, > > When you come back to write about people like Yogi Karve ji and his > family, and if you think I am going to sit quiet like a mouse and listen > to all this bakwaas, then you are mistaken. You did not like their > asking Fees. You cannot afford to pay their Fees. You then write that > the intentions were to pay some amount after the predictions were made. > You then write that you dont like paying Fees as donations. What > nonsense is this ? There is too much of " You " involved here.Remove that > and you will be a happy man. > > I repeat - > > People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > purchasable by money. > > Please show me the English you are capable of using... > > Before doing that remember I have nothing personal against you. Only > sick of such attitudes, thats all. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > , Vishnu Mohan > <vishnumohanalj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > //People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > > purchasable by money.// > > > > //if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people > behind > > their backs...// > > > > No personal remarks pls.I know enough English to write personal > remarks against anybody but i dont want to argue and waste my time and > energy as those resources are limited  and do not come back. > > Anyway thanks for sharing your experience at the start. > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > Vishnu. > > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve > > > > Saturday, February 27, 2010, 4:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vishnu ji, > > > > > > > > In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she > > > > asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a > donation, > > > > but you are not the person who is going to " Decide " . It is their > > > > prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any > > > > offerings. > > > > > > > > Intentions of marrying after the " Suhaag raat " is not the right > > > > intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by > > > > expecting too much for free..... > > > > > > > > One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense > of > > > > culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one > > > > approaches. To ask for " Free " is a shame for any Indian . But yet we > see > > > > this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not > > > > give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and > > > > Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless > > > > vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. > > > > > > > > Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? > Or > > > > did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the > > > > predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being > taken > > > > for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started > > > > asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of > Yogi > > > > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > > > > purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. > One > > > > has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. > > > > Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately > learns > > > > to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for > whom > > > > one does so... All this for petty money ? > > > > > > > > And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- > in > > > > pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry > afterwards > > > > if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people > behind > > > > their backs..... > > > > > > > > Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for > > > > predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he > > > > wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call > > > > back after the payment is made... > > > > > > > > The moment someone says " I want this " and does not reciprocate what > he > > > > receives in any cash or kind , that moment " Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, > > > > Shanti, Keerti " these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vishnu " > > > > <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > > > > > > > > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My > > > > friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time > > > > is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as > donation > > > > for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will > proceed.My > > > > friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to > donate > > > > some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee > and > > > > not a donation. > > > > > > > > > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > > > > > > > > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel > i > > > > cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > > > > > > > > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > > > > > > > vishnu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " surajyg " > > > > jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > > > > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told > me > > > > about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has > seen > > > > some predictions go way off. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Sooraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji,Kindly pardon a mild intrusion. It is not a comment on matter discussed hereunder but an experience that I feel relevant to share here. Some time ago I went to attend a Lalkitab Sammelan at Ludhiana. The organizers there had asked for a voluntary donation of Rs. 2100 for anyone to share the dais.They invited a lady to grace the occasion, she is completely blind, asks a girl accompanying her to read out the charts and feels the hand/palm of the native by touching it. I am told she is very good at readings. Her problem (sorry to use this word here) is that she accepts whatever native offers her i.e. about Rs. 11 to Rs. 100.She couldn't afford the VOLUNTARY DONATION and the organizers very conveniently forget about her. RegardsKulbir BainsBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Sat, 27 February, 2010 9:40:42 PM Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve Vishnu ji, In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a donation, but you are not the person who is going to "Decide". It is their prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any offerings. Intentions of marrying after the "Suhaag raat" is not the right intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by expecting too much for free..... One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense of culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one approaches. To ask for "Free" is a shame for any Indian . But yet we see this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? Or did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being taken for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. One has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately learns to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for whom one does so... All this for petty money ? And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- in pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry afterwards if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind their backs..... Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call back after the payment is made... The moment someone says "I want this " and does not reciprocate what he receives in any cash or kind , that moment "Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, Shanti, Keerti" these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vishnu" <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as donation for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will proceed.My friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to donate some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee and not a donation. > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel i cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > Thanks and best wishes > > vishnu > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "surajyg" jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told me about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has seen some predictions go way off. > > Regards > > Sooraj > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Dear Kulbir ji, I really do not know what I am expected to comment here. For did not understand quite clearly what was implied. All organisers may not be honest in their endevaours and enterprises. All people may not be really intestered in the others welfare, and may have primarily interest of commercialisation before undertaking such ventures. So whats new here ? This is the way of the world. We see this hapenning every day and everywhere around us. Nothing strange about this. Not only Rs.11- or Rs. 100- People like me do this free also at least for 3 Horoscopes daily on an average, if not more. BUT This does not mean that at other times I will not demand money for my services. We need " Maya " in this " Mayavic " world too. I have Maya which is why I have two connections of Internet at my place and always available Online and also a number of Computers in my Home, and not depndent on Computer at my workplace or where I may be working , if I was. Giving for free is a good " Jajba " on the part of the giver. But expecting for free if one can aford, is not. The " problem " which you mentioned depends on ones state of existence. I normally charge Rs.2500- for one reading because I have to eat , and earning from other sources, and happy if even I get just 10 orders a month on a personal basis. But some who may not be living comfotably may be most pleased to receive even Rs.50- depnding on their state of existence and the need in their lives. So we are nobody to comment on what and how much and why, one is charging what one is. Neither are we sitting on the seats of a Judge, to pass judgements in such matters. In this world people who dont have " Artha " are normally ignored. Therefore it is mentioned in all the sacred books, that one must work hard, do his karmas to the best of his efforts, and accumlate enough wealth for a subsistence, and later for a comfortable living. One who cannot do this will be shamed in every assembly... This world is not for the time waster and the those who just argue and waste time. This is the world made by God for the " Achievers " . Whether one achieves or not, is a seperate matter, but one must not leave any stone unturned in his attempts to create wealth.... Sorry, I talk practical.. Bina paise ke Bhai sahab subah ki chai bhi naseeb nahin hogi, aur din bhar suabah se shaam biwi aur bacchon ki fatkaar se aadmi apni maut se pahle hi dum tod dega..... isliye yahan par bhi bahut moorkohon se kahta hoon ki D-10 par jyaada baat karke hoshiyaari mat jhaado. Kuch akkal aur kabiliyat hai, toh hame samjaho tumne kya samjha hai. Aur agar samajh nahin hai toh hame nasamajh mat samjho. Hum sab samajthe hain kisko kitni smajh hai. Hamara keemti samay faaltu ki bakwaas mein barbaad na karo. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > Kindly pardon a mild intrusion. It is not a comment on matter discussed hereunder but an experience that I feel relevant to share here. Some time ago I went to attend a Lalkitab Sammelan at Ludhiana. The organizers there had asked for a voluntary donation of Rs. 2100 for anyone to share the dais. > They invited a lady to grace the occasion, she is completely blind, asks a girl accompanying her to read out the charts and feels the hand/palm of the native by touching it. I am told she is very good at readings. Her problem (sorry to use this word here) is that she accepts whatever native offers her i.e. about Rs. 11 to Rs. 100. > She couldn't afford the VOLUNTARY DONATION and the organizers very conveniently forget about her. > > Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Sat, 27 February, 2010 9:40:42 PM > Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve > > > > Vishnu ji, > > In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she > asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a donation, > but you are not the person who is going to " Decide " . It is their > prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any > offerings. > > Intentions of marrying after the " Suhaag raat " is not the right > intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by > expecting too much for free..... > > One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense of > culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one > approaches. To ask for " Free " is a shame for any Indian . But yet we see > this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not > give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and > Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless > vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. > > Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? Or > did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the > predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being taken > for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started > asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. One > has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. > Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately learns > to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for whom > one does so... All this for petty money ? > > And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- in > pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry afterwards > if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind > their backs..... > > Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for > predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he > wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call > back after the payment is made... > > The moment someone says " I want this " and does not reciprocate what he > receives in any cash or kind , that moment " Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, > Shanti, Keerti " these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Vishnu " > <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My > friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time > is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as donation > for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will proceed.My > friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to donate > some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee and > not a donation. > > > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel i > cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > vishnu > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " surajyg " > jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told me > about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has seen > some predictions go way off. > > > Regards > > > Sooraj > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Sir,I wanted to say that Money, Power, Influence matters in the world of Divinators also. But you have cleared everything by your mail.RegardsKulbir Bains.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Mon, 1 March, 2010 2:42:36 PM Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve Dear Kulbir ji, I really do not know what I am expected to comment here. For did not understand quite clearly what was implied. All organisers may not be honest in their endevaours and enterprises. All people may not be really intestered in the others welfare, and may have primarily interest of commercialisation before undertaking such ventures. So whats new here ? This is the way of the world. We see this hapenning every day and everywhere around us. Nothing strange about this. Not only Rs.11- or Rs. 100- People like me do this free also at least for 3 Horoscopes daily on an average, if not more. BUT This does not mean that at other times I will not demand money for my services. We need "Maya" in this "Mayavic" world too. I have Maya which is why I have two connections of Internet at my place and always available Online and also a number of Computers in my Home, and not depndent on Computer at my workplace or where I may be working , if I was. Giving for free is a good "Jajba" on the part of the giver. But expecting for free if one can aford, is not. The "problem" which you mentioned depends on ones state of existence. I normally charge Rs.2500- for one reading because I have to eat , and earning from other sources, and happy if even I get just 10 orders a month on a personal basis. But some who may not be living comfotably may be most pleased to receive even Rs.50- depnding on their state of existence and the need in their lives. So we are nobody to comment on what and how much and why, one is charging what one is. Neither are we sitting on the seats of a Judge, to pass judgements in such matters. In this world people who dont have "Artha" are normally ignored. Therefore it is mentioned in all the sacred books, that one must work hard, do his karmas to the best of his efforts, and accumlate enough wealth for a subsistence, and later for a comfortable living. One who cannot do this will be shamed in every assembly... This world is not for the time waster and the those who just argue and waste time. This is the world made by God for the "Achievers". Whether one achieves or not, is a seperate matter, but one must not leave any stone unturned in his attempts to create wealth.... Sorry, I talk practical.. Bina paise ke Bhai sahab subah ki chai bhi naseeb nahin hogi, aur din bhar suabah se shaam biwi aur bacchon ki fatkaar se aadmi apni maut se pahle hi dum tod dega..... isliye yahan par bhi bahut moorkohon se kahta hoon ki D-10 par jyaada baat karke hoshiyaari mat jhaado. Kuch akkal aur kabiliyat hai, toh hame samjaho tumne kya samjha hai. Aur agar samajh nahin hai toh hame nasamajh mat samjho. Hum sab samajthe hain kisko kitni smajh hai. Hamara keemti samay faaltu ki bakwaas mein barbaad na karo. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > Kindly pardon a mild intrusion. It is not a comment on matter discussed hereunder but an experience that I feel relevant to share here. Some time ago I went to attend a Lalkitab Sammelan at Ludhiana. The organizers there had asked for a voluntary donation of Rs. 2100 for anyone to share the dais. > They invited a lady to grace the occasion, she is completely blind, asks a girl accompanying her to read out the charts and feels the hand/palm of the native by touching it. I am told she is very good at readings. Her problem (sorry to use this word here) is that she accepts whatever native offers her i.e. about Rs. 11 to Rs. 100. > She couldn't afford the VOLUNTARY DONATION and the organizers very conveniently forget about her. > > Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sat, 27 February, 2010 9:40:42 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Destiny!! -Yogi karve > > > > Vishnu ji, > > In fact she has asked you a very less amount and am ashamed that she > asked you a less amount. Whether you consider it as a fee or a donation, > but you are not the person who is going to "Decide". It is their > prerogative. In fact one must not go to Astrologers too without any > offerings. > > Intentions of marrying after the "Suhaag raat" is not the right > intention my Dear. Its people like you who spoil the face of India, by > expecting too much for free..... > > One should have a strong spinal chord, a sense of manliness, a sense of > culture heritage, a sense of some educational upbringing, before one > approaches. To ask for "Free" is a shame for any Indian . But yet we see > this happenning all around and everytime. This is the reason I did not > give you the phone number before, and dont give it to any Tom Dick and > Harry, for I know how people want to grab from others like boneless > vegetables and parasites. We have lost our bearings unfortunately. > > Rs.1500 is not a huge sum. You expected the Yogi to ask you Rs.11- ? Or > did you wish to offer them Rs.21- as per your intentions after the > predictions was made ? These people understand how they are being taken > for a ride by people like you, and am happy that they have started > asking for donations. People like you have taken much advantage of Yogi > Karveji and his family has suffered a lot due to lack of comforts > purchasable by money. Birth rectification is not an ordinary matter. One > has to study a lot. Practise. Learn the various formulaes. Spend time. > Forego sleep and comforts. Its a long process when one ultimately learns > to do so. And then finally carry the rinabandhan of the native for whom > one does so... All this for petty money ? > > And next time do not walk into a salon for a haircut, with only Rs.5- in > pocket. If one cannot afford then dont go there, and dont cry afterwards > if you cannot afford their fees, and do not bad mouth good people behind > their backs..... > > Any cultured person if approaching an astrologer on phone for > predictions must in the first sentence itself make it clear that he > wants to pay, and how the payment must be sent, and that he would call > back after the payment is made... > > The moment someone says "I want this " and does not reciprocate what he > receives in any cash or kind , that moment "Buddhi, Shree, Lajja, > Shanti, Keerti" these 5 Devatas leave the body and walk away.... > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vishnu" > <vishnumohanalj@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sooraj ji, > > > > Actually me and my friend tried to contact Daughter of Yogi Karve.My > friend was able to talk to her and he had told her that his birth time > is doubtful.She told him that he is required to pay 1500 rs as donation > for birth time rectification and if he agrees to it ,she will proceed.My > friend said he cannot afford Rs.1500 though he had intentions to donate > some amount of money after the prediction and this seemed like a fee and > not a donation. > > > > I am confused now and i am reconsidering my idea to talk to her. > > > > Though it is unfair on my part to expect a free service,still i feel i > cant afford to pay a huge sum. > > > > lets see how it goes for me. > > > > > > Thanks and best wishes > > > > vishnu > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "surajyg" > jyothikasooraj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vishnu > > > Also,I think even the best can make mistakes.The person who told me > about Yogi Karve and princess Dianas episode also said that he has seen > some predictions go way off. > > > Regards > > > Sooraj > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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