Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Dear it is frustrating in astrology that once a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive things they see in the hor. justifying the natives present position however if it is seen in different angle do not give a rosy picture ::all planets between raghu and kethu 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagna and dispositor of kethu saturn in an angle 9th house raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house moon with raghu and venus with sun not good in traditional view 1 5 9 housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong can keep on describing negative areas is of no use as many astrologers justify above for things for a positive achievements in life if the same shown without giving identity of person many may fail to justify same time many persons are born then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in length can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the native with regards sairaman vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM Re: Sachin's birth details Respected Bhaskerji,//But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .Your happiness is the A+ grading for me :)Thankyou.//24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.Regards,Vijay GoelJaipurancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> and this is the way they must be used always.> > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> records.> > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> of the right Lagna.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskerji,> >> > Data 1> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> >> > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> >> > Data 2> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> >> > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> >> > This is as per Jhora.> >> > Thankyou> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Goel ji,> > >> > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> the> > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > >> > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > planet> > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > that> > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > >> > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > >> > > > Data 1> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 21, 1973> > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > Mumbai, India> > > >> > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > star lord : Mars> > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > >> > > > Data 2> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 24, 1973> > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > Mumbai, India> > > >> > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > star lord : Sun> > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > >> > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > >> > > > February 25, 2010> > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > Jaipur, India> > > >> > > > LSRD method > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > lord> > > > jupiter.> > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> with> > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > >> > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> more> > > > correct.> > > >> > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > >> > > > Thankyou> > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> axeplex@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > >> > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> Mars> > > Dasa> > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > better> > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> is> > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> to> > > such> > > > heights.> > > > >> > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> conjunting> > Ma> > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > the> > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> or> > > > wrong,> > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > could> > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> Anyway,> > > > April> > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > but> > > > three> > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> menon> > > > horamag@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > with> > > > Don> > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > Durban.> > > He> > > > was> > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> 4.25> > pm> > > > which> > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Dear Speak clearly. There is no Kaal Sarp yoga as you are suggesting. Get another horoscope with 9th lord in the 8th house in this condition, then we talk. Dont talk in air. regards, Mouji sairam nat <sairaman53 Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:16:41 AMRe: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Dear it is frustrating in astrology that once a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive things they see in the hor. justifying the natives present position however if it is seen in different angle do not give a rosy picture ::all planets between raghu and kethu 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagna and dispositor of kethu saturn in an angle 9th house raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house moon with raghu and venus with sun not good in traditional view 1 5 9 housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong can keep on describing negative areas is of no use as many astrologers justify above for things for a positive achievements in life if the same shown without giving identity of person many may fail to justify same time many persons are born then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in length can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the native with regards sairaman vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details Respected Bhaskerji,//But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .Your happiness is the A+ grading for me :)Thankyou.//24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.Regards,Vijay GoelJaipurancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> and this is the way they must be used always.> > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> records.> > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> of the right Lagna.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Respected Bhaskerji,> >> > Data 1> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> >> > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> >> > Data 2> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> >> > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> >> > This is as per Jhora.> >> > Thankyou> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Goel ji,> > >> > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> the> > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > >> > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > planet> > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > that> > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > >> > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > >> > > > Data 1> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 21, 1973> > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > Mumbai, India> > > >> > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > star lord : Mars> > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > >> > > > Data 2> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 24, 1973> > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > Mumbai, India> > > >> > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > star lord : Sun> > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > >> > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > >> > > > February 25, 2010> > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > Jaipur, India> > > >> > > > LSRD method > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > lord> > > > jupiter.> > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> with> > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > >> > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> more> > > > correct.> > > >> > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > >> > > > Thankyou> > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> axeplex@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > >> > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> Mars> > > Dasa> > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > better> > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> is> > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> to> > > such> > > > heights.> > > > >> > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> conjunting> > Ma> > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > the> > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> or> > > > wrong,> > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > could> > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> Anyway,> > > > April> > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > but> > > > three> > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> menon> > > > horamag@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > with> > > > Don> > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > Durban.> > > He> > > > was> > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> 4.25> > pm> > > > which> > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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