Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 aur meri dua hai ki "tum" andhi gali ke andhe raston (rakesh mohan ke natak ka title)" par mat chalo....ujale ki taraf kadam badao Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1regdsDev ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship.> > Mouji Ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> >  > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame.> > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise.> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > >  > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments.> > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this?> > > > regds> > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1.> > > > > > no regards,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood.> > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends.> > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.> > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > still regards,> > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > > menon> > > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > > Durban.> > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > Mouji ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\ …ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\ ¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ †'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\ …ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\ ¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÂ\ ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\ ¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\ …ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\ ¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'\ ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ €šÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬Ã\ ƒÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'â€\  'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ\ ‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ †'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ †'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬\ ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\ …ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\ ¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ †'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ\ '…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ\ '¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€Å\ ¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\ …ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\ ¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÂ\ ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\ ¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'\ …ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'\ ¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'\ ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ €šÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬Ã\ ƒÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Â\ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'â€\  'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ‚¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ\ ‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ †'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ †'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€\ šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, Girish > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Jawab to dena padega huzoor. Bhagwan aasheesh de ya na, ye uski marzi. article ka is se koi lena dena hi nahin hai, bade khudgarz ho, agar aapne article nahin likha aur baat theek ho, to kanni kaat lo. wah wah, kisi bade shehar ke rehne wale lagte ho jahan insan insaniyat ke liye nahin apne sukh ke liye jeeta hai...hum to bhai chote se hain, das saal aapko hue, hum to gin hi nahin pate. usool ki baat ho lad jayen paharo se.... jab dil ki sunai dene lage sun lena, jab hosh ki baat ho to jaan lena, varna yoon hi bhatak jayoge is sansar meing...rastan na mile to sudh lena...... best wishes, Mouji Ram (yea naam bhi isi liye liya hai, mauj lene ke liye, asatyata bardasht nahin hoti) axeplex <axeplex Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 8:50:23 AM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you!Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you!Devancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology.> > Mouji ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1> > regds> Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship.> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > To: ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame.> > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise.> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments.> > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this?> > > > > > regds> > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1.> > > > > > > > no regards,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood.> > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends.> > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.> > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards,> > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > > > menon> > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > > > Durban.> > > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all,I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that data! I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for their information and knowledge. There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions.RegardsNeelamOn 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex wrote:  Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > Mouji ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear Neelam ji, Thanks for bringing that article to our knowledge. What I did not like was some mortal like we morons questioning the wisdom of a living Maharishi like Karve ji. I had the good fortune of being near him during one of his visits to Delhi. Infact, me and Pinky and Karve ji, I transported them in my old dilapidated Maruti 800 and I was advised a few things by Karveji during and after one of his pujas. Such a noble and humble soul, very difficult to find in Kaliyuga that we live in. Today, am sure, even if Krishna comes to this land called Bharat Varsha, skeptics would ask him to prove that he indeed is Krishna. I am thankful to Bhaskar ji, because he is in Mumbai and he has had interaction with such a great soul, to have confirmed it. I have seen him emptying whatever he has in his pockets at any sight of a picture of god or temple or evening taking money from anyone alongwith him to offer to god. But he has a family to support. Lets not discount the daily needs of a family man. Till date, I have not seen him demanding money anytime but surely the family needs money to survive, that too in a city like Mumbai and Pune. Hope I am clear..... Mouji Ram neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 9:23:16 AMRe: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all,I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that data! I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for their information and knowledge. There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex > wrote: Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you!Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Devancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:> > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology.> > Mouji ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex > ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1> > regds> Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship.> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame.> > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise.> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments.> > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this?> > > > > > regds> > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1.> > > > > > > > no regards,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood.> > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends.> > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.> > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards,> > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > > > menon> > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > > > Durban.> > > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 And those who are interested i finding out the principles for eldest born child should join BVB to know it. regards, Mouji Ram Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 9:35:48 AMRe: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Dear Neelam ji, Thanks for bringing that article to our knowledge. What I did not like was some mortal like we morons questioning the wisdom of a living Maharishi like Karve ji. I had the good fortune of being near him during one of his visits to Delhi. Infact, me and Pinky and Karve ji, I transported them in my old dilapidated Maruti 800 and I was advised a few things by Karveji during and after one of his pujas. Such a noble and humble soul, very difficult to find in Kaliyuga that we live in. Today, am sure, even if Krishna comes to this land called Bharat Varsha, skeptics would ask him to prove that he indeed is Krishna. I am thankful to Bhaskar ji, because he is in Mumbai and he has had interaction with such a great soul, to have confirmed it. I have seen him emptying whatever he has in his pockets at any sight of a picture of god or temple or evening taking money from anyone alongwith him to offer to god. But he has a family to support. Lets not discount the daily needs of a family man. Till date, I have not seen him demanding money anytime but surely the family needs money to survive, that too in a city like Mumbai and Pune. Hope I am clear..... Mouji Ram neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologySat, February 27, 2010 9:23:16 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all,I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that data! I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for their information and knowledge. There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex > wrote: Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you!Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Devancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:> > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology.> > Mouji ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex > ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1> > regds> Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship.> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame.> > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise.> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments.> > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this?> > > > > > regds> > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1.> > > > > > > > no regards,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood.> > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends.> > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.> > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards,> > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > > > menon> > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > > > Durban.> > > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Neelamji, I would read the article in 2-3 days since I have not seen this article before. regds Dev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all, > > I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all > events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is > confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, > And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that > data! > > I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for > their information and knowledge. > > There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. > > Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future > events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex wrote: > > > > > > > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin > > hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, > > Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur > > kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo > > galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur > > jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri > > imaandaari thi. > > > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab > > karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se > > jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail > > ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > > > > > Dev > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai > > woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, > > that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed > > whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. > > you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my > > beliefs of astrology. > > > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I > > could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag > > raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna > > article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and > > again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. > > you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and > > blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered > > anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts > > for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext > > of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain > > for a long time. > > > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of > > that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. > > Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for > > Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become > > as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to > > astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open > > heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > >  > > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public > > forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of > > similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs > > to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what > > you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an > > astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording > > first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has > > to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years > > kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation > > is. > > > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and > > 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a > > candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please > > first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart > > from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with > > Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the > > issue with this? > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain > > conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. > > I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in > > D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, > > your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting > > benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have > > written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital > > happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have > > explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or > > don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't > > come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not > > understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and > > both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to > > be friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if > > someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to > > make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko > > Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of > > generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the > > generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have > > no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think > > before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. > > You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave > > you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show > > astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to > > Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent > > before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. > > Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip > > reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another > > post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. > > But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made > > on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to > > his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree > > fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in > > my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam > > nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that > > onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > they > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see > > in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different > > angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between > > raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > and > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th > > not sound for > > lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th > > houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ 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person > > manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons > > areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then > > we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in > > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as > > Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the > > person things are discussed to the advantage known to the > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have > > already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would > > discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same > > thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, > > so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On > > Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart > > alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause > > reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it > > belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would > > have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj > > Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But > > sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. > > Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka > > theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, > > 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt > > rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, > > Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the > > person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, > > CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, > > and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in > > the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not > > quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for > > advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place > > famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja > > for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way > > is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the > > group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. > > Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant > > explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav > > nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in > > my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam > > nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that > > onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ 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forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person > > manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons > > areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then > > we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in > > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as > > Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the > > person things are discussed to the advantage known to the > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right > > use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have > > provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more > > conveniently. . > > > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana > > Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. > > but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details > > since the other > > > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite > > right... and some > > > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point > > of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right > > use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I > > normally do not > > > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth > > details from my > > > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get > > a better idea > > > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You > > kindly give me > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis > > of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , > > but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an > > experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star > > lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & > > SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very > > close conjunct > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not > > fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data > > 2 could be > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being > > involvement of > > > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth > > that sounds > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st > > April case, if it > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that > > can take him > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra > > that is > > > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make > > both charts of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one > > would be correct > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, > > so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read > > your post. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of > > time difference > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology (AT) (DOT) com, Girish > > > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news > > article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is > > often compared > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday > > (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well > > other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South > > Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i > > have got is > > > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] > > Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology (AT) (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear All,Without any bias, please do try the Char karakas. 21/1 = Ak MARs, Amk Sat in excellent rajyoga in 5/9 in natal chart and in royal sign Leo in lagna in navamsha with rahu adding strength. Sh Rao has shown many times when RY get repeated in Nav, they are very strong and fruitful. Here it is n excellent strength. AK Mars in Lagna in Navamsha. and from KL (in rashi) Mars in 6H with 5L jup. 24/2 = Ak Moon, Amk Sat, no connection in rashi and Nav. KL sagi, where AK moon is in 4H. One can see what makes a stronger person!Members are not obliged to agree.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:53, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all,I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that data! I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for their information and knowledge. There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex wrote:  Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > Mouji ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 One can see what makes a stronger person!....and a stronger sportsman!NeelamOn 27 February 2010 23:14, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear All,Without any bias, please do try the Char karakas. 21/1 = Ak MARs, Amk Sat in excellent rajyoga in 5/9 in natal chart and in royal sign Leo in lagna in navamsha with rahu adding strength. Sh Rao has shown many times when RY get repeated in Nav, they are very strong and fruitful. Here it is n excellent strength. AK Mars in Lagna in Navamsha. and from KL (in rashi) Mars in 6H with 5L jup. 24/2 = Ak Moon, Amk Sat, no connection in rashi and Nav. KL sagi, where AK moon is in 4H. One can see what makes a stronger person!Members are not obliged to agree.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:53, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all,I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that data! I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for their information and knowledge. There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex wrote:  Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > Mouji ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 No personal comments please! And be happy. And do not reply this post if you can read and understand it. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Jawab to dena padega huzoor. Bhagwan aasheesh de ya na, ye uski marzi. article ka is se koi lena dena hi nahin hai, bade khudgarz ho, agar aapne article nahin likha aur baat theek ho, to kanni kaat lo. wah wah, kisi bade shehar ke rehne wale lagte ho jahan insan insaniyat ke liye nahin apne sukh ke liye jeeta hai...hum to bhai chote se hain, das saal aapko hue, hum to gin hi nahin pate. > > usool ki baat ho lad jayen paharo se.... > > jab dil ki sunai dene lage sun lena, jab hosh ki baat ho to jaan lena, varna yoon hi bhatak jayoge is sansar meing...rastan na mile to sudh lena...... > > best wishes, > > Mouji Ram > (yea naam bhi isi liye liya hai, mauj lene ke liye, asatyata bardasht nahin hoti) > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:50:23 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ\ ‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ 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> > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âÃ\ ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃ\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ\ € 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ\ 'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢Ã\ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ÃÂ\ ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãâ\ €¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'\ Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢Ã\ ƒÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ †'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â\ ¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ †'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â\ ¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, Girish > > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃ\ ‚¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ\ € 'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'â€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Mouji Ram ji,An accepting mind will find gold in dust but a doubting mind will only get dust in gold. I am talking about a general trend of debating or questioning just for the sake of it. Science would not have progressed if we had not accepted the footprints of those who had walked before us. But astrology is cursed and its not meant to be. I am not pointing at anyone. To each his own. We all must reach the same place finally, sooner or later!RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 23:05, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:  Dear Neelam ji,  Thanks for bringing that article to our knowledge. What I did not like was some mortal like we morons questioning the wisdom of a living Maharishi like Karve ji.  I had the good fortune of being near him during one of his visits to Delhi. Infact, me and Pinky and Karve ji, I transported them in my old dilapidated Maruti 800 and I was advised a few things by Karveji during and after one of his pujas. Such a noble and humble soul, very difficult to find in Kaliyuga that we live in. Today, am sure, even if Krishna comes to this land called Bharat Varsha, skeptics would ask him to prove that he indeed is Krishna.  I am thankful to Bhaskar ji, because he is in Mumbai and he has had interaction with such a great soul, to have confirmed it. I have seen him emptying whatever he has in his pockets at any sight of a picture of god or temple or evening taking money from anyone alongwith him to offer to god.  But he has a family to support. Lets not discount the daily needs of a family man. Till date, I have not seen him demanding money anytime but surely the family needs money to survive, that too in a city like Mumbai and Pune.  Hope I am clear.....  Mouji Ram neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sat, February 27, 2010 9:23:16 AMRe: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th  Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all,I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that data! I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for their information and knowledge. There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions.RegardsNeelam On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex > wrote:  Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! Devancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:> > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > Mouji ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex > ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > regds> Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship.> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > >  > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise.> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > regds> > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > no regards,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends.> > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.> > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > still regards,> > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ ¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3> > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear Dev ji,I am glad the article has been uploaded on the site. Now at least people can read it. A lot of knowledge shines through such a piece of writing itself.You know what I mean. The author is not here to defend himself. He does not need it I think. A creation is created and left for others to enjoy or suffer! The creator is not bothered!What use is our learning astrology if can't fix a preferred date for a person in flesh and blood with so much to his credit? RegardsNeelamOn 27 February 2010 23:13, axeplex <axeplex wrote:  Neelamji, I would read the article in 2-3 days since I have not seen this article before. regds Dev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all, > > I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all > events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is > confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao ji, > And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on that > data! > > I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for > their information and knowledge. > > There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. > > Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future > events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions. > > Regards > Neelam > > > > On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex wrote: > > > > > > > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin > > hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, > > Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur > > kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo > > galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur > > jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri > > imaandaari thi. > > > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab > > karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se > > jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail > > ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > > > > > Dev > > > > <%40>, > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai > > woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, > > that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed > > whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. > > you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my > > beliefs of astrology. > > > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > <%40> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I > > could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag > > raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna > > article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and > > again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. > > you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and > > blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered > > anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts > > for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext > > of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain > > for a long time. > > > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of > > that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. > > Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for > > Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become > > as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to > > astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open > > heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > >  > > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public > > forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of > > similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs > > to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what > > you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an > > astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording > > first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has > > to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years > > kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation > > is. > > > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and > > 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a > > candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please > > first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart > > from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with > > Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the > > issue with this? > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain > > conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. > > I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in > > D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, > > your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting > > benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have > > written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital > > happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have > > explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or > > don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't > > come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not > > understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and > > both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to > > be friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if > > someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to > > make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko > > Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of > > generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the > > generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have > > no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think > > before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. > > You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave > > you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show > > astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to > > Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent > > before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. > > Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip > > reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another > > post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. > > But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made > > on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to > > his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree > > fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in > > my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam > > nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that > > onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > they > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see > > in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different > > angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between > > raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > and > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th > > not sound for > > lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th > > houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with > > raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > and > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus > > with sun > > > > > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 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'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then > > we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in > > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as > > Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the > > person things are discussed to the advantage known to the > > nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have > > already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would > > discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same > > thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, > > so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On > > Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart > > alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause > > reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it > > belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would > > have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj > > Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But > > sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. > > Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka > > theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, > > 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt > > rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, > > Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the > > person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, > > CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, > > and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in > > the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not > > quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for > > advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place > > famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja > > for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way > > is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the > > group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. > > Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant > > explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav > > nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in > > my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam > > nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that > > onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear Mouji Bhai, Aapke vartalaap se hum khush hue.... aap joh shaaili ka upyog karte ho apni bhaasha mein, wah bhi hame bahut bha gayi..... aur aapka nirmal man ke toh kya kahne........ (Sundar kand ki chaupaayi yaad aa gayi -Nirmal man jan soh mohi paava, mohi kapat chal chhidra na bhaava). Axeplax sahab ko bhale hi dus saal ho gaye hon astrology mein, ham bahut pahle hi samajh gaye hain ki unko basic astrology bhi nahin aati..... kuen mein kitna paani hai, ham toh uski shakl dekh kar hi pehchaan lete hain..... Unka woh D-10 ki shekhi baghaarna, aur woh D-24 charts ke neeche nahin utaran, aur Higher maths se paani ki tanki kab leak hogi yeh predict karna, aur kal unhone forum par kisiko power diya tha....yeh sab bakwaas hum witness karne se pahle hi jaante the ki , dhoti kitni fati hui hai unki aur kahan kahan par ched hai.... Hame tadne mein samay nahin lagta, isliye hamne apna smay barbaad karna chod diya (Ab phir ek chaupayi yaad aa gayi is baat par- Dhol,shudra, ganvaar, pashu , naari sakal taadna ke adhikaari...... Yahan par taadna ka alag meaning padhiye, pahle waale sentence se bhinna hai.... main yahan par ganwar aur shudra ko pratadit karne ki baat kar raha hoon, taaki apni seema mein rahe aur aage na badhe...) . Haan toh main kah raha tha that he has made a fool of us all the while since last few months, and wasted our much time and labour, and we expected some voracious delicious feeds from him in form of analysis , in support of the great knowledge propogated, but unfortunately, I am sure even the basics of astrology are Latin and German for him. Unfortunately beech mein maine apna wakt unpar waste kiya, because unki postings kisi bhi naye students ko bhatkaane waali thi, naaki enlightening for any person seeking knowledge.... warm wishes and regards, Bhaskar. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Jawab to dena padega huzoor. Bhagwan aasheesh de ya na, ye uski marzi. article ka is se koi lena dena hi nahin hai, bade khudgarz ho, agar aapne article nahin likha aur baat theek ho, to kanni kaat lo. wah wah, kisi bade shehar ke rehne wale lagte ho jahan insan insaniyat ke liye nahin apne sukh ke liye jeeta hai...hum to bhai chote se hain, das saal aapko hue, hum to gin hi nahin pate. > > usool ki baat ho lad jayen paharo se.... > > jab dil ki sunai dene lage sun lena, jab hosh ki baat ho to jaan lena, varna yoon hi bhatak jayoge is sansar meing...rastan na mile to sudh lena...... > > best wishes, > > Mouji Ram > (yea naam bhi isi liye liya hai, mauj lene ke liye, asatyata bardasht nahin hoti) > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:50:23 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ 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ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person > manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ > '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\ Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons > areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢Ã > Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu 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sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, Girish > > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Ã\ 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear Mouji Bhai, Mr.Sairaman has proved in his last exchange with me that he is a confused man as far as astrology is concerned, and he is an expert in Copy Paste, and nothing more than that... I request you to please not waste time over here..... The present specimens he has produced only re-confirm what I have written above.... regards, Bhaskar. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Dear > > Speak clearly. There is no Kaal Sarp yoga as you are suggesting. Get another horoscope with 9th lord in the 8th house in this condition, then we talk. Dont talk in air. > > regards, > > Mouji > > > > > ________________________________ > sairam nat sairaman53 > > Fri, February 26, 2010 7:16:41 AM > Re: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that once a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive things they  see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > however if it is seen in different angle do not give a rosy picture > > ::all planets between raghu and  kethu > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagna and dispositor of kethu > > saturn in an angle 9th house > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > moon with raghu and  venus with sun not good in  traditional view > > 1 5 9 housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong > > can > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > as many astrologers justify above for things for a positive achievements in life > > if the same shown without giving identity of person many  may fail to justify > > same time many persons are born  then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in length > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the native > > with regards > sairaman > >  > > > > ________________________________ > vijay.goel goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > Thankyou. > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > records. > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > of the right Lagna. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > Data 1 > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > Data 2 > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > Thankyou > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > the > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > planet > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > that > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > lord > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > with > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > more > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > axeplex@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > Mars > > > > Dasa > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > better > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > is > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > to > > > > such > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > conjunting > > > Ma > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > the > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > or > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > could > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > Anyway, > > > > > April > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > but > > > > > three > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish > > menon > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > with > > > > > Don > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > Durban. > > > > He > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > 4.25 > > > pm > > > > > which > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Taad to hum bhi gaye hain Bhaskar saheb , kaun yahan kitne paani mein hai. Raha sawaal, D-10 aur D-24 ka, to uska apna mahatav hai aur rahega, Oose koi bhaskar, Manoj, Dev ...aadi nahin badal sakta. Isliye personal comments par zor mat dijiye aur mast rahiye. Agar aap ko lagta hai hum anjaan hain astrology mein, to aisa hi samjhiye aur khush rahiye. Kataaksha mat kijiye. Gyaniyon ko shobha nahin deta aisa likhna. Humne to kabhi claim hi nahin kiya ki hum mahaan hain par jo yahan claim karte hain, unki asliyat kya hai, wo samajh mein aa gayi hai pichhle mahinon mein. May God bless you! regds Dev , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Mouji Bhai, > > Aapke vartalaap se hum khush hue.... aap joh shaaili ka upyog karte ho apni bhaasha mein, wah bhi hame bahut bha gayi..... aur aapka nirmal man ke toh kya kahne........ (Sundar kand ki chaupaayi yaad aa gayi -Nirmal man jan soh mohi paava, mohi kapat chal chhidra na bhaava). > > Axeplax sahab ko bhale hi dus saal ho gaye hon astrology mein, ham bahut pahle hi samajh gaye hain ki unko basic astrology bhi nahin aati..... kuen mein kitna paani hai, ham toh uski shakl dekh kar hi pehchaan lete hain..... Unka woh D-10 ki shekhi baghaarna, aur woh D-24 charts ke neeche nahin utaran, aur Higher maths se paani ki tanki kab leak hogi yeh predict karna, aur kal unhone forum par kisiko power diya tha....yeh sab bakwaas hum witness karne se pahle hi jaante the ki , dhoti kitni fati hui hai unki aur kahan kahan par ched hai.... Hame tadne mein samay nahin lagta, isliye hamne apna smay barbaad karna chod diya (Ab phir ek chaupayi yaad aa gayi is baat par- Dhol,shudra, ganvaar, pashu , naari sakal taadna ke adhikaari...... Yahan par taadna ka alag meaning padhiye, pahle waale sentence se bhinna hai.... main yahan par ganwar aur shudra ko pratadit karne ki baat kar raha hoon, taaki apni seema mein rahe aur aage na badhe...) . Haan toh main kah raha tha that he has made a fool of us all the while since last few months, and wasted our much time and labour, and we expected some voracious delicious feeds from him in form of analysis , in support of the great knowledge propogated, but unfortunately, I am sure even the basics of astrology are Latin and German for him. > > Unfortunately beech mein maine apna wakt unpar waste kiya, because unki postings kisi bhi naye students ko bhatkaane waali thi, naaki enlightening for any person seeking knowledge.... > > warm wishes and regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > , Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > Jawab to dena padega huzoor. Bhagwan aasheesh de ya na, ye uski marzi. article ka is se koi lena dena hi nahin hai, bade khudgarz ho, agar aapne article nahin likha aur baat theek ho, to kanni kaat lo. wah wah, kisi bade shehar ke rehne wale lagte ho jahan insan insaniyat ke liye nahin apne sukh ke liye jeeta hai...hum to bhai chote se hain, das saal aapko hue, hum to gin hi nahin pate. > > > > usool ki baat ho lad jayen paharo se.... > > > > jab dil ki sunai dene lage sun lena, jab hosh ki baat ho to jaan lena, varna yoon hi bhatak jayoge is sansar meing...rastan na mile to sudh lena...... > > > > best wishes, > > > > Mouji Ram > > (yea naam bhi isi liye liya hai, mauj lene ke liye, asatyata bardasht nahin hoti) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:50:23 AM > > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > >  > > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. > > > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > >  > > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive > > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different 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7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with 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> > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. 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†'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ 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> > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person > > manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ > > '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\ Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons > > areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢Ã > > Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in > > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…\ ¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, Girish > > > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Neelamji, Before I read the article, Please clarify if discussion is allowed on this article. If not, I would better not read this article since I can not switch off my left brain and then read. Though I would definitely like to search Gold in dust or Dust in Gold, whatever you call it without any bias. And in fact, I don't have any necessity to have any bias. Essence of a group discussion is views, observations, experience sharing, debate, acceptance, agreement, disgreement. But when discussion takes the form of personal comments, a battlefield or shape of getting professional advantage, it goes ugly. One does not want to even put his comments or analyse anything. If disagreement, debate etc. are removed, it becomes information group where views and experiences are shared and is closed. Then it is not a true discussion group. regds Dev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Dev ji, > > I am glad the article has been uploaded on the site. Now at least people can > read it. A lot of knowledge shines through such a piece of writing itself. > You know what I mean. > > The author is not here to defend himself. He does not need it I think. > A creation is created and left for others to enjoy or suffer! The creator is > not bothered! > > What use is our learning astrology if can't fix a preferred date for a > person in flesh and blood with so much to his credit? > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 27 February 2010 23:13, axeplex <axeplex wrote: > > > > > > > Neelamji, > > > > I would read the article in 2-3 days since I have not seen this article > > before. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mouji ji, Dev ji and all, > > > > > > I do not need to defend the article. It is astrologically logical and all > > > events so well explained that one can raise no doubt. The birth time is > > > confirmed by none other than Yogi Karve ji himself and supported by Rao > > ji, > > > And what better proof one wants when the prediction also comes true on > > that > > > data! > > > > > > I presented it to the group as a good piece of astrological research for > > > their information and knowledge. > > > > > > There's a adifference between a wquestioning mind and a skeptic mind. > > > > > > Those who think 24th is the right time, please predict 2-3 near future > > > events for Sachin! Let us see how many have the guts to give predictions. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 February 2010 22:20, axeplex <axeplex@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi > > nahin > > > > hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, > > > > Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur > > > > kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > > > > > > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo > > > > galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin > > pada aur > > > > jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh > > meri > > > > imaandaari thi. > > > > > > > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab > > > > karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se > > > > jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is > > mail > > > > ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40>, > > > > > > Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna > > hai > > > > woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the > > way, > > > > that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who > > agreed > > > > whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual > > standards. > > > > you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending > > my > > > > beliefs of astrology. > > > > > > > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > > > > Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > 26th > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I > > > > could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > > > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main > > bhaag > > > > raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur > > apna > > > > article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and > > > > again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable > > one. > > > > you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and > > > > blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered > > > > anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have > > guts > > > > for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one > > pretext > > > > of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public > > domain > > > > for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous > > temples of > > > > that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the > > problem. > > > > Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof > > for > > > > Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have > > become > > > > as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to > > > > astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open > > > > heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai > > > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public > > > > forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be > > of > > > > similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he > > needs > > > > to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about > > what > > > > you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be > > an > > > > astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > sai > > > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your > > wording > > > > first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there > > has > > > > to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 > > years > > > > kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new > > generation > > > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd > > and > > > > 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a > > > > candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. > > Please > > > > first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment > > apart > > > > from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is > > with > > > > Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the > > > > issue with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain > > > > conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th > > chart. > > > > I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show > > in > > > > D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > sai > > > > 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, > > > > your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting > > > > benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have > > > > written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital > > > > happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have > > > > explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or > > > > don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so > > don't > > > > come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not > > > > understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su > > and > > > > both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both > > happens to > > > > be friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if > > > > someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first > > to > > > > make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj > > Kumar > > > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya > > yoga/Karko > > > > Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, > > 1/3rd of > > > > generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the > > > > generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would > > have > > > > no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think > > > > before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring > > you. > > > > You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I > > gave > > > > you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show > > > > astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details > > > > sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to > > > > Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is > > sent > > > > before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your > > mail. > > > > Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip > > > > reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent > > another > > > > post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj > > Kumar > > > > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people > > also. > > > > But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you > > made > > > > on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply > > to > > > > his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree > > > > fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > > > details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â > > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything > > in > > > > my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â > > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > details > > > > sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I > > have > > > > already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would > > > > discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same > > > > thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa > > Yoga, > > > > so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily > > exaggerated. On > > > > Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal > > chart > > > > alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause > > > > reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it > > > > belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I > > would > > > > have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj > > > > Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But > > > > sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. > > > > Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the > > Badhaka > > > > theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have > > marriage, > > > > 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So > > adopt > > > > rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, > > Warangal, > > > > Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and > > the > > > > person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, > > > > CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â > > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > Minister, > > > > > > and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth > > lord in > > > > the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do > > not > > > > quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for > > > > advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, > > (place > > > > famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any > > puja > > > > for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no > > way > > > > is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of > > the > > > > group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. > > > > Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant > > > > explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko > > bhav > > > > nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth > > > > details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â > > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything > > in > > > > my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > > sairam > > > > nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that > > > > onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â > > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†> > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 DearGirish ji,//Why on earth should such a genius fake it.//when we dont know a truth we keep guessing and want others also to agree and guess exactly the sameway which is absolutely impossible.That's why no one wins arguments.They just play a guessing game for what they themselves dont know many a time.Anyway my guess is that Sachin could well celebrate his B.DAY once officially with media glare aswell and again with family and close friends privately and enjoy bothways.It does not mean faking since he never spoke about his b.day publicly....Love and regards,gopi. , Girish menon <horamag wrote:>> > > > > Dear members> > My doubt regarding his DOB > > He celebrated his birth day in Durban on april 24th> > Why on earth should such a genius fake it.> > As per K.N rao he had challenged the authenticity of Kala> sarpa yoga> > But the fact is sachin had visited Kuke Subramaniam temple for> the same (may be he believes it) > > I had personally seen his photographs in the hotel where he> stayed.> > Now to have this yoga it is possible only if the DOB is on> 24th.> > Thanks and regards> > Girish> >  > >  > > > > --- On Sat, 2/27/10, axeplex axeplex wrote:> > axeplex axeplex Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > Saturday, February 27, 2010, 7:39 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So you found my mail. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Sairamji,> > > > > > Lenghthy mail takes time....Just to add, few things you have written by mistake> > > like kala Sarpa Yoga etc. Few of the answers to your questions can be found in> > > D-charts. Few questions remain unanswered and this is the reaon everybody tries> > > to learn more and more to know those gaps.(And you can see how even highly> > > experienced guys in the group would be willing to learn new things).> > > > > > Mouji : You have only negated it partially. Why do you not show it your way in the D=Charts. Now do not say that you will teach only worthy students because one such person who used to say such things cannot show his face now in Jyotish Group. You say many known names were exposed here, I would like to know, who were those big names. > > > > > > Baadhaka Mercury - In 2005, he was running Me AD as per 24th April data, may be> > > when people were writing him off , could be related to that.... Also Me was not> > > supportive in D-10.> > > > > > Mouji : Dont talk in probabilities. Talk in affirmatives. Show it if you can.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun notÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > >  > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun notÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ goodÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons areÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > menon> > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > Durban.> > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Dear Dev ji,How does it matter to me or anyone else, whether you read the article or not? The loss or gain is entirely yours. I am not advocating for the article or its author. I shared the link because I thought the group might benefit from a worthy piece of writing and I was being requested offline by many to post the article. Luckily it appeared on the JOA site. Regarding discussion, I feel it has already been happening and more is welcome. However, there is difference between discussion and argument. In any case, much as we discuss or even argue on these groups, no conclusion is ever drawn or a consensus arrived at! Ultimately we end up with: To each his own! Nonetheless during such discussions, we do get to collect some pearls given away knowingly or unknowingly by our learned members! Wise ones would look out for them to take home!RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Namaste Neelam Ji, Thank you so much for the article for which i was after u......Yup it really matches wit it which i was too not convinced on 24th April Date.....Thanks Mohit--- On Sun, 2/28/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 11:50 AM Dear Dev ji,How does it matter to me or anyone else, whether you read the article or not? The loss or gain is entirely yours. I am not advocating for the article or its author. I shared the link because I thought the group might benefit from a worthy piece of writing and I was being requested offline by many to post the article. Luckily it appeared on the JOA site.Regarding discussion, I feel it has already been happening and more is welcome. However, there is difference between discussion and argument. In any case, much as we discuss or even argue on these groups, no conclusion is ever drawn or a consensus arrived at! Ultimately we end up with: To each his own!Nonetheless during such discussions, we do get to collect some pearls given away knowingly or unknowingly by our learned members! Wise ones would look out for them to take home!RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 arre bhai, d/10, d/24 ka prayog kaun badal raha hai, unka mahatav hai aur rahega, prantu yadi theek d/10 ya theek d/24 ka prayog kiya jaye to.......vaise, mujhe samajh nahin aaya, vayavsaya mein d/24 ka kya kaam....10 saaal mein aapko kuch samajh aaya ho to jaroor samjha dijiyega...hum to samjhenge nahin, shyada jinhone parashar pada ho, woh bhi sawal poochen, uske liye taiyyar rahiyega.... sadbhavnayon sahit, Holi Mubarak sabko..... But its really painful that when I posted a mail about the devastation in Chile and corresponding human and property loss with an earthquake of 8.8 scale, none responded. We are humans friends.... Holi mubarak..... Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:59:53 AM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Taad to hum bhi gaye hain Bhaskar saheb , kaun yahan kitne paani mein hai. Raha sawaal, D-10 aur D-24 ka, to uska apna mahatav hai aur rahega, Oose koi bhaskar, Manoj, Dev ...aadi nahin badal sakta. Isliye personal comments par zor mat dijiye aur mast rahiye.Agar aap ko lagta hai hum anjaan hain astrology mein, to aisa hi samjhiye aur khush rahiye. Kataaksha mat kijiye. Gyaniyon ko shobha nahin deta aisa likhna. Humne to kabhi claim hi nahin kiya ki hum mahaan hain par jo yahan claim karte hain, unki asliyat kya hai, wo samajh mein aa gayi hai pichhle mahinon mein.May God bless you!regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Mouji Bhai,> > Aapke vartalaap se hum khush hue.... aap joh shaaili ka upyog karte ho apni bhaasha mein, wah bhi hame bahut bha gayi..... aur aapka nirmal man ke toh kya kahne....... . (Sundar kand ki chaupaayi yaad aa gayi -Nirmal man jan soh mohi paava, mohi kapat chal chhidra na bhaava).> > Axeplax sahab ko bhale hi dus saal ho gaye hon astrology mein, ham bahut pahle hi samajh gaye hain ki unko basic astrology bhi nahin aati..... kuen mein kitna paani hai, ham toh uski shakl dekh kar hi pehchaan lete hain..... Unka woh D-10 ki shekhi baghaarna, aur woh D-24 charts ke neeche nahin utaran, aur Higher maths se paani ki tanki kab leak hogi yeh predict karna, aur kal unhone forum par kisiko power diya tha....yeh sab bakwaas hum witness karne se pahle hi jaante the ki , dhoti kitni fati hui hai unki aur kahan kahan par ched hai.... Hame tadne mein samay nahin lagta, isliye hamne apna smay barbaad karna chod diya (Ab phir ek chaupayi yaad aa gayi is baat par- Dhol,shudra, ganvaar, pashu , naari sakal taadna ke adhikaari... ... Yahan par taadna ka alag meaning padhiye, pahle waale sentence se bhinna hai.... main yahan par ganwar aur shudra ko pratadit karne ki baat kar raha hoon, taaki apni seema mein rahe aur aage na badhe...) . Haan toh main kah raha tha that he has made a fool of us all the while since last few months, and wasted our much time and labour, and we expected some voracious delicious feeds from him in form of analysis , in support of the great knowledge propogated, but unfortunately, I am sure even the basics of astrology are Latin and German for him.> > Unfortunately beech mein maine apna wakt unpar waste kiya, because unki postings kisi bhi naye students ko bhatkaane waali thi, naaki enlightening for any person seeking knowledge... .> > warm wishes and regards,> > Bhaskar. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote:> >> > Jawab to dena padega huzoor. Bhagwan aasheesh de ya na, ye uski marzi. article ka is se koi lena dena hi nahin hai, bade khudgarz ho, agar aapne article nahin likha aur baat theek ho, to kanni kaat lo. wah wah, kisi bade shehar ke rehne wale lagte ho jahan insan insaniyat ke liye nahin apne sukh ke liye jeeta hai...hum to bhai chote se hain, das saal aapko hue, hum to gin hi nahin pate.> > > > usool ki baat ho lad jayen paharo se....> > > > jab dil ki sunai dene lage sun lena, jab hosh ki baat ho to jaan lena, varna yoon hi bhatak jayoge is sansar meing...rastan na mile to sudh lena......> > > > best wishes,> > > > Mouji Ram > > (yea naam bhi isi liye liya hai, mauj lene ke liye, asatyata bardasht nahin hoti)> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex axeplex@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:50:23 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > >  > > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you!> > > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. > > > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you!> > > > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology.> > > > > > Mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > >  > > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1> > > > > > regds> > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship.> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > >  > > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame.> > > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise.> > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments.> > > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this?> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1.> > > > > > > > > > > > no regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood.> > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends.> > > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone.> > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive> > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon with raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ venus with sun> > > notÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > goodÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ in> > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ traditional view> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 5 9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person> > manyÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ> > '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same time many persons> > areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢Ã> > Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in> > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Manojji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive> > thingsÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ they> > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and> > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th 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9ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > canÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ things for a 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areÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ bornÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢Ã> > Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in> > lengthÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > > > > > > > > records.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > > > > > > > > planet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > > > > > > > > more> > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > > > > > > > > Mars> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > > > > > > > > better> > > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > such> > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > > > > > > > > conjunting> > > > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > > > > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > > > > > > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > > > > > > > > but> > > > > > > > > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > > > > > > > > menon> > > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > > > > > > > > Durban.> > > > > > > > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > > > > > > > > 4.25> > > > > > > > > > > > pm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Holi Mubarak. That mail was not addressed to you. To whom it was addressed, he knows D-24 was not talked related to profession and was talked in which context. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > arre bhai, d/10, d/24 ka prayog kaun badal raha hai, unka mahatav hai aur rahega, prantu yadi theek d/10 ya theek d/24 ka prayog kiya jaye to.......vaise, mujhe samajh nahin aaya, vayavsaya mein d/24 ka kya kaam....10 saaal mein aapko kuch samajh aaya ho to jaroor samjha dijiyega...hum to samjhenge nahin, shyada jinhone parashar pada ho, woh bhi sawal poochen, uske liye taiyyar rahiyega.... > > sadbhavnayon sahit, > > Holi Mubarak sabko..... > > But its really painful that when I posted a mail about the devastation in Chile and corresponding human and property loss with an earthquake of 8.8 scale, none responded. We are humans friends.... > > Holi mubarak..... > > Mouji Ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Sat, February 27, 2010 11:59:53 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > >  > Taad to hum bhi gaye hain Bhaskar saheb , kaun yahan kitne paani mein hai. Raha sawaal, D-10 aur D-24 ka, to uska apna mahatav hai aur rahega, Oose koi bhaskar, Manoj, Dev ...aadi nahin badal sakta. > Isliye personal comments par zor mat dijiye aur mast rahiye. > > Agar aap ko lagta hai hum anjaan hain astrology mein, to aisa hi samjhiye aur khush rahiye. Kataaksha mat kijiye. Gyaniyon ko shobha nahin deta aisa likhna. > > Humne to kabhi claim hi nahin kiya ki hum mahaan hain par jo yahan claim karte hain, unki asliyat kya hai, wo samajh mein aa gayi hai pichhle mahinon mein. > > May God bless you! > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Mouji Bhai, > > > > Aapke vartalaap se hum khush hue.... aap joh shaaili ka upyog karte ho apni bhaasha mein, wah bhi hame bahut bha gayi..... aur aapka nirmal man ke toh kya kahne....... . (Sundar kand ki chaupaayi yaad aa gayi -Nirmal man jan soh mohi paava, mohi kapat chal chhidra na bhaava). > > > > Axeplax sahab ko bhale hi dus saal ho gaye hon astrology mein, ham bahut pahle hi samajh gaye hain ki unko basic astrology bhi nahin aati..... kuen mein kitna paani hai, ham toh uski shakl dekh kar hi pehchaan lete hain..... Unka woh D-10 ki shekhi baghaarna, aur woh D-24 charts ke neeche nahin utaran, aur Higher maths se paani ki tanki kab leak hogi yeh predict karna, aur kal unhone forum par kisiko power diya tha....yeh sab bakwaas hum witness karne se pahle hi jaante the ki , dhoti kitni fati hui hai unki aur kahan kahan par ched hai.... Hame tadne mein samay nahin lagta, isliye hamne apna smay barbaad karna chod diya (Ab phir ek chaupayi yaad aa gayi is baat par- Dhol,shudra, ganvaar, pashu , naari sakal taadna ke adhikaari... ... Yahan par taadna ka alag meaning padhiye, pahle waale sentence se bhinna hai.... main yahan par ganwar aur shudra ko pratadit karne ki baat kar raha hoon, taaki apni seema mein rahe aur aage na badhe...) . Haan toh main > kah raha tha that he has made a fool of us all the while since last few months, and wasted our much time and labour, and we expected some voracious delicious feeds from him in form of analysis , in support of the great knowledge propogated, but unfortunately, I am sure even the basics of astrology are Latin and German for him. > > > > Unfortunately beech mein maine apna wakt unpar waste kiya, because unki postings kisi bhi naye students ko bhatkaane waali thi, naaki enlightening for any person seeking knowledge... . > > > > warm wishes and regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@> wrote: > > > > > > Jawab to dena padega huzoor. Bhagwan aasheesh de ya na, ye uski marzi. article ka is se koi lena dena hi nahin hai, bade khudgarz ho, agar aapne article nahin likha aur baat theek ho, to kanni kaat lo. wah wah, kisi bade shehar ke rehne wale lagte ho jahan insan insaniyat ke liye nahin apne sukh ke liye jeeta hai...hum to bhai chote se hain, das saal aapko hue, hum to gin hi nahin pate. > > > > > > usool ki baat ho lad jayen paharo se.... > > > > > > jab dil ki sunai dene lage sun lena, jab hosh ki baat ho to jaan lena, varna yoon hi bhatak jayoge is sansar meing...rastan na mile to sudh lena...... > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > (yea naam bhi isi liye liya hai, mauj lene ke liye, asatyata bardasht nahin hoti) > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:50:23 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > >  > > > Bhagwan aapko aasheeh de. May God bless you! Agar aapka article hi nahin hai to kahe ko itni magaz maari kar rahe ho. Jawab Saiaram ko diya tha, Temple waali baat likhi Girish ne, to main kisko agree kar raha tha aur kisko defend kar raha tha, Raam jaane. May God bless you! > > > > > > Do (Two) mail likhe kyunki main to bhai insaan hun na ki bhagwaan ki jo galti na kare. Maine likha hai ki pehli baar maine poora mail nahin pada aur jab pada to usko jawaab diya khud hi, na ki kisi ke kehne se kyuki yeh meri imaandaari thi. > > > > > > Ab kuchh aur kaam dhandha bhi kar len ya yahan baith ke sawaal jawaab karen. Kshama kijiye aur aanand lijiye zindagi ka. Main bhi das saal se jyada Astrology mein hun, to kripa kar ke shaanti ka daan dijiye aur is mail ka jawaab please mat dijiyega. May God bless you! > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Kiska article bhai aur kiska defence. Defend to Neelam ji ko karna hai woh article. I am just asking questions on behalf of astrology. By the way, that temple and proof was written by the person, to whose mail who agreed whole heartedly and one mail and questioning in other mail. Dual standards. you are mistaken, if I am defending some article. I am only defending my beliefs of astrology. > > > > > > > > Mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:36:49 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > >  > > > > Do not reply this post. May God bless you! By the way, temple etc, I could not understand as I have not written anything like that. > > > > Aap apni gali aur main apni gali. Aur agar aapko lagta hi ki main bhaag raha hun, to aisa hi socho, khush raho aur apni paridhi mein jiyo aur apna article defend karo. Good Bye1 > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes nothing is simple. You are not compelled to write it again and again because now you are seeking a way out and that too an honorable one. you talk of your previous posts, what have you done except doubting and blaming seniors and seeking shelters in other's mails. Have you offered anything astrologically? I am still open to a debate provided you have guts for it. When confronted with a chart, you chose to back out on one pretext of the other, moreover when that chart was very much within public domain for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I visit any city, I make it a point to visit famous temples of that place. So if Sachin visited a particular temple, what is the problem. Did he visit to satiate his Kaal Sarpa Yoga? Does anyone has any proof for Kaal Sarpa Yoga? I wish, I had one, because atleast then I would have become as famous as Nehur, Margaret Thatcher etc., Dont bring a bad name to astrology in the name of Vedic Astrology. > > > > > > > > > > You wish to discuss any topic, you are welcome. But come with open heart and mind, not just playing the games of one upmanship. > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 8:08:57 AM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > First of all, you don't know how to use words that also in a public forum, so I am not going to answer your next post if it happens to be of similar wordings. Silence is golden sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing is simple in Vedic astrology and if somebody says it, he needs to introspect himself. Read all previous posts, I have explained about what you are asking, I am not sitting here to write again and again. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Very simple. If you do not understand it and still called to be an astrologer, is in itself is a shame. > > > > > > > > > > > > Explain lord ship of Mars in birth chart and D/10 and his rise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:57:19 AM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Where have showed any farce in D-10 and be selective in your wording first. Whatever you are or whatever artice you are referring to, there has to be certain basics in life that needs to be followed.If I tell my 6 years kid that this is like this even he asks me why. This is how new generation is. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have just written in 21st case, Venus is in 7th lording 2nd and 10th and I have already wrote you that MArs is better in 24th case as a candiadte for all the reasons I have written in my previous mails. Please first read, understand the mails and then make comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal charts are almost same so there is not much to comment apart from 3-4 factors that I have also written in my previous posts. ra is with Moon in 4th in 24th chart and Moon happens to be 11th lord, what is the issue with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahaha.....before you go on to say anything first explain conjunction results of Moon and Rahu in the fourth house in the 24th chart. I will come to D/10, I have already showed the farce you wanted to show in D/10 when it was not even confirmed in D/1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 7:37:01 AM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > > Manojji, if it is making you laugh, nothing like that. In fact, your post is also making me laugh. So that way, we both are getting benefited. By the way what I learnt about baadhaka is not what you have written, so there is no point that 1/3rd would lose bhagya, marital happiness etc. etc. Baadhaka is simple a Baadha. Regarding D-10, I have explained many times about both dates, now if you can not understand or don't want to understand, it is purely your issue and not mine. so don't come back again and again with same mail, tell me what have you not understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, one more input. In 21st April chart, Ve is with Su and both happens to be enemy. In 24th chart, Mars is with Ju and both happens to be friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And also do not make comments. I don't make any. But yes, if someone makes, I do retaliate. Check all my posts, I am never the first to make any personal comment against anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. > > > > > > > > This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†> 'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the " heck " of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†> 'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational " people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â > 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ 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> > > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†> 'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > > > > > > > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. . > > > > > > > > > > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some > > > > > > > > > > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not > > > > > > > > > > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's > > > > > > > > > > > > and this is the way they must be used always. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not > > > > > > > > > > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my > > > > > > > > > > > > records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea > > > > > > > > > > > > of the right Lagna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is as per Jhora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Data 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24, 1973 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mumbai, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > star lord : Sun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 25, 2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day > > > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is > > > > > > > > > > > > conjunting > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " axeplex " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > menon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > horamag@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > > > > > > > > > > > > > Durban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†> 'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'\ Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÂ\ ¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ€\ 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 // Ultimately we end up with: To each his own! // Rightly said, Neelamji. Discussion can lead to argument sometimes since it is an integrated product. Holi Mubarak! regds Dev , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Dev ji, > > How does it matter to me or anyone else, whether you read the article or > not? The loss or gain is entirely yours. I am not advocating for the article > or its author. I shared the link because I thought the group might benefit > from a worthy piece of writing and I was being requested offline by many to > post the article. Luckily it appeared on the JOA site. > > Regarding discussion, I feel it has already been happening and more is > welcome. However, there is difference between discussion and argument. > In any case, much as we discuss or even argue on these groups, no conclusion > is ever drawn or a consensus arrived at! Ultimately we end up with: To each > his own! > > Nonetheless during such discussions, we do get to collect some pearls given > away knowingly or unknowingly by our learned members! Wise ones would look > out for them to take home! > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Holi mubarak and Mubarak India's 4-1 Victory in Hockey in World Cup opener. Congratulations to every Indian.. Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 8:21:04 AM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th // Ultimately we end up with: To each his own! //Rightly said, Neelamji. Discussion can lead to argument sometimes since it is an integrated product.Holi Mubarak!regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Dev ji,> > How does it matter to me or anyone else, whether you read the article or> not? The loss or gain is entirely yours. I am not advocating for the article> or its author. I shared the link because I thought the group might benefit> from a worthy piece of writing and I was being requested offline by many to> post the article. Luckily it appeared on the JOA site.> > Regarding discussion, I feel it has already been happening and more is> welcome. However, there is difference between discussion and argument.> In any case, much as we discuss or even argue on these groups, no conclusion> is ever drawn or a consensus arrived at! Ultimately we end up with: To each> his own!> > Nonetheless during such discussions, we do get to collect some pearls given> away knowingly or unknowingly by our learned members! Wise ones would look> out for them to take home!> > Regards> Neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Indeed its a great opening in hockey World Cup. Congrats.Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Sun, 28 February, 2010 10:08:43 PMRe: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Holi mubarak and Mubarak India's 4-1 Victory in Hockey in World Cup opener. Congratulations to every Indian.. Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, February 28, 2010 8:21:04 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th // Ultimately we end up with: To each his own! //Rightly said, Neelamji. Discussion can lead to argument sometimes since it is an integrated product.Holi Mubarak!regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Dev ji,> > How does it matter to me or anyone else, whether you read the article or> not? The loss or gain is entirely yours. I am not advocating for the article> or its author. I shared the link because I thought the group might benefit> from a worthy piece of writing and I was being requested offline by many to> post the article. Luckily it appeared on the JOA site.> > Regarding discussion, I feel it has already been happening and more is> welcome. However, there is difference between discussion and argument.> In any case, much as we discuss or even argue on these groups, no conclusion> is ever drawn or a consensus arrived at! Ultimately we end up with: To each> his own!> > Nonetheless during such discussions, we do get to collect some pearls given> away knowingly or unknowingly by our learned members! Wise ones would look> out for them to take home!> > Regards> Neelam> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 You're welcome Mohit ji. You got what you wished for!RegardsNeelamOn 28 February 2010 19:52, Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33 wrote: Namaste Neelam Ji, Thank you so much for the article for which i was after u......Yup it really matches wit it which i was too not convinced on 24th April Date.....Thanks Mohit--- On Sun, 2/28/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 11:50 AM Dear Dev ji,How does it matter to me or anyone else, whether you read the article or not? The loss or gain is entirely yours. I am not advocating for the article or its author. I shared the link because I thought the group might benefit from a worthy piece of writing and I was being requested offline by many to post the article. Luckily it appeared on the JOA site. Regarding discussion, I feel it has already been happening and more is welcome. However, there is difference between discussion and argument. In any case, much as we discuss or even argue on these groups, no conclusion is ever drawn or a consensus arrived at! Ultimately we end up with: To each his own! Nonetheless during such discussions, we do get to collect some pearls given away knowingly or unknowingly by our learned members! Wise ones would look out for them to take home!RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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