Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Namaste Kulbir ji Don’t forget “Hermaphrodites” will have either Male or Female dominant physical features …… Best wishes ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 06 March 2010 12:44 RE: Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, //as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female …..// What about hermaphrodites? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: Re: Sachin's Article Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:55 AM Namaste Bhaskar ji I wouldn’t say one needs to be “highly” qualified to be able to use D-Charts – like anything in life one uses whatever is easy and makes sense to use …… Please don’t think one is being “extra” intelligent/ bright in predicting Gender based upon Natal & D7 charts? Yes 50% chances of being right/wrong are always there as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female ….. Regarding predicting using Transits – I assume you already know about Prof Choudhry’s SA teachings/Group though he doesn’t profess in propounding the use of D-Charts with his teachings/method …… Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar 06 March 2010 05:05 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just stick to certain norms, ethics and understandings. Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. No issues over here. But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the times predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, and however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by many stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented proof of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a job, when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will have a child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but meant for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for such matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for implementations on a higher scale. About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, thereafter one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing MBBS in astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict from a normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart as an aid ? One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by just using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be able to predict what is going to happen when, even without looking Vimsottari dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further about Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as predictions > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than others - > after all its purely based around ones own interpretation/ thoughts that > have become ingrained over time .. > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > Best wishes .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Ram Jaswal Ji,That far i Know; kindly enlighten me as to how are these apart from other natives, who have same date place and time of birth exactly upto nano seconds.Regards Kulbir Bains--- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote:Ram Jaswal <rkjaswalRE: Re: Sachin's Article Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:27 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Don’t forget “Hermaphrodites†will have either Male or Female dominant physical features …… Best wishes ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 06 March 2010 12:44 ancient_indian_ astrology RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, //as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female …..// What about hermaphrodites? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:55 AM Namaste Bhaskar ji I wouldn’t say one needs to be “highly†qualified to be able to use D-Charts – like anything in life one uses whatever is easy and makes sense to use …… Please don’t think one is being “extra†intelligent/ bright in predicting Gender based upon Natal & D7 charts? Yes 50% chances of being right/wrong are always there as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female ….. Regarding predicting using Transits – I assume you already know about Prof Choudhry’s SA teachings/Group though he doesn’t profess in propounding the use of D-Charts with his teachings/method …… Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar 06 March 2010 05:05 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just stick to certain norms, ethics and understandings. Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. No issues over here. But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the times predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, and however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by many stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented proof of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a job, when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will have a child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but meant for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for such matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for implementations on a higher scale. About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, thereafter one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing MBBS in astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict from a normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart as an aid ? One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by just using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be able to predict what is going to happen when, even without looking Vimsottari dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further about Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as predictions > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than others - > after all its purely based around ones own interpretation/ thoughts that > have become ingrained over time .. > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > Best wishes .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Namaste Kulbir ji Do you have Any Charts of “Hermaphrodites” along with their Parents? Best wishes …. Jai Sita Ram Ram Lalkitab Kb [lalkitabkb] 06 March 2010 17:15 Cc: rkjaswal RE: Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, That far i Know; kindly enlighten me as to how are these apart from other natives, who have same date place and time of birth exactly upto nano seconds. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal RE: Re: Sachin's Article Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:27 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Don’t forget “Hermaphrodites” will have either Male or Female dominant physical features …… Best wishes ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 06 March 2010 12:44 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, //as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female …..// What about hermaphrodites? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:55 AM Namaste Bhaskar ji I wouldn’t say one needs to be “highly” qualified to be able to use D-Charts – like anything in life one uses whatever is easy and makes sense to use …… Please don’t think one is being “extra” intelligent/ bright in predicting Gender based upon Natal & D7 charts? Yes 50% chances of being right/wrong are always there as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female ….. Regarding predicting using Transits – I assume you already know about Prof Choudhry’s SA teachings/Group though he doesn’t profess in propounding the use of D-Charts with his teachings/method …… Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar 06 March 2010 05:05 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just stick to certain norms, ethics and understandings. Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. No issues over here. But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the times predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, and however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by many stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented proof of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a job, when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will have a child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but meant for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for such matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for implementations on a higher scale. About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, thereafter one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing MBBS in astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict from a normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart as an aid ? One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by just using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be able to predict what is going to happen when, even without looking Vimsottari dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further about Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as predictions > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than others - > after all its purely based around ones own interpretation/ thoughts that > have become ingrained over time .. > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > Best wishes .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Dear Ram Jaswal Ji,Does that means that in your system, Birth Data of Native, his Father and his Mother, All three of them is required.Regards Kulbir Bains--- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote:Ram Jaswal <rkjaswalRE: Re: Sachin's Article Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 5:59 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Do you have Any Charts of “Hermaphrodites†along with their Parents? Best wishes …. Jai Sita Ram Ram Lalkitab Kb [lalkitabkb@ ] 06 March 2010 17:15 ancient_indian_ astrology Cc: rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, That far i Know; kindly enlighten me as to how are these apart from other natives, who have same date place and time of birth exactly upto nano seconds. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:27 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Don’t forget “Hermaphrodites†will have either Male or Female dominant physical features …… Best wishes ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 06 March 2010 12:44 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, //as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female …..// What about hermaphrodites? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:55 AM Namaste Bhaskar ji I wouldn’t say one needs to be “highly†qualified to be able to use D-Charts – like anything in life one uses whatever is easy and makes sense to use …… Please don’t think one is being “extra†intelligent/ bright in predicting Gender based upon Natal & D7 charts? Yes 50% chances of being right/wrong are always there as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female ….. Regarding predicting using Transits – I assume you already know about Prof Choudhry’s SA teachings/Group though he doesn’t profess in propounding the use of D-Charts with his teachings/method …… Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar 06 March 2010 05:05 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just stick to certain norms, ethics and understandings. Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. No issues over here. But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the times predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, and however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by many stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented proof of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a job, when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will have a child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but meant for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for such matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for implementations on a higher scale. About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, thereafter one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing MBBS in astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict from a normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart as an aid ? One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by just using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be able to predict what is going to happen when, even without looking Vimsottari dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further about Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as predictions > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than others - > after all its purely based around ones own interpretation/ thoughts that > have become ingrained over time .. > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > Best wishes .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Namaste Kulbir ji Not necessarily though helps in understanding/confirming interpretation of the chart’s – one from self and other from Parents perspective …… Best wishes …… Jai Sita Ram Ram On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 07 March 2010 04:00 To: RE: Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, Does that means that in your system, Birth Data of Native, his Father and his Mother, All three of them is required. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: Re: Sachin's Article Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 5:59 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Do you have Any Charts of “Hermaphrodites” along with their Parents? Best wishes …. Jai Sita Ram Ram Lalkitab Kb [lalkitabkb@ ] 06 March 2010 17:15 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Cc: rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, That far i Know; kindly enlighten me as to how are these apart from other natives, who have same date place and time of birth exactly upto nano seconds. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:27 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Don’t forget “Hermaphrodites” will have either Male or Female dominant physical features …… Best wishes ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 06 March 2010 12:44 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, //as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female …..// What about hermaphrodites? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:55 AM Namaste Bhaskar ji I wouldn’t say one needs to be “highly” qualified to be able to use D-Charts – like anything in life one uses whatever is easy and makes sense to use …… Please don’t think one is being “extra” intelligent/ bright in predicting Gender based upon Natal & D7 charts? Yes 50% chances of being right/wrong are always there as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female ….. Regarding predicting using Transits – I assume you already know about Prof Choudhry’s SA teachings/Group though he doesn’t profess in propounding the use of D-Charts with his teachings/method …… Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar 06 March 2010 05:05 ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just stick to certain norms, ethics and understandings. Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. No issues over here. But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the times predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, and however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by many stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented proof of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a job, when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will have a child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but meant for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for such matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for implementations on a higher scale. About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, thereafter one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing MBBS in astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict from a normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart as an aid ? One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by just using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be able to predict what is going to happen when, even without looking Vimsottari dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further about Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as predictions > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than others - > after all its purely based around ones own interpretation/ thoughts that > have become ingrained over time .. > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > Best wishes .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Sir , In lalkitab system too it is stressed that charts of all blood relatives be studied for such cases.Regards Kulbir Bains--- On Sun, 7/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal wrote:Ram Jaswal <rkjaswalRE: Re: Sachin's Article Date: Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 11:38 AM Namaste Kulbir ji Not necessarily though helps in understanding/ confirming interpretation of the chart’s – one from self and other from Parents perspective …… Best wishes …… Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 07 March 2010 04:00 To: ancient_indian_ astrology RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, Does that means that in your system, Birth Data of Native, his Father and his Mother, All three of them is required. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 5:59 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Do you have Any Charts of “Hermaphrodites†along with their Parents? Best wishes …. Jai Sita Ram Ram Lalkitab Kb [lalkitabkb@ ] 06 March 2010 17:15 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com Cc: rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, That far i Know; kindly enlighten me as to how are these apart from other natives, who have same date place and time of birth exactly upto nano seconds. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:27 PM Namaste Kulbir ji Don’t forget “Hermaphrodites†will have either Male or Female dominant physical features …… Best wishes ….. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb 06 March 2010 12:44 ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Dear Ram Jaswal Ji, //as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female …..// What about hermaphrodites? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article ancient_indian_ astrology Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:55 AM Namaste Bhaskar ji I wouldn’t say one needs to be “highly†qualified to be able to use D-Charts – like anything in life one uses whatever is easy and makes sense to use …… Please don’t think one is being “extra†intelligent/ bright in predicting Gender based upon Natal & D7 charts? Yes 50% chances of being right/wrong are always there as after all the child can only either be a Male or a Female ….. Regarding predicting using Transits – I assume you already know about Prof Choudhry’s SA teachings/Group though he doesn’t profess in propounding the use of D-Charts with his teachings/method …… Best wishes ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar 06 March 2010 05:05 ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's Article Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just stick to certain norms, ethics and understandings. Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. No issues over here. But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the times predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, and however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by many stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented proof of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a job, when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will have a child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but meant for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for such matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for implementations on a higher scale. About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, thereafter one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing MBBS in astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict from a normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart as an aid ? One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by just using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be able to predict what is going to happen when, even without looking Vimsottari dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further about Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as predictions > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than others - > after all its purely based around ones own interpretation/ thoughts that > have become ingrained over time .. > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > Best wishes .. > > Jai Sita Ram > > Ram > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2726 - Release 03/06/10 07:39:00 Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. No virus found in this incoming message. 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Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dear Bhaskar JI, I am working to create Excel sheet which can tells 3 possibility for Adhana Nakshatra and we need to choose correct choice from that and there are ways that too can be done base on Mense time and after that 10-14 days conception and else factors....calculations are mine but after that..... i am using Krushna JI Table...i have no right to share anybody else work from my name........yes Sreenath JI nice Article of Bhattopla which inspired for further calculations to me .... It is Postmortem only since we know date of delivery.......Anybody can be very good and can tell correct upto 85% for such postmortem but that does not value at least for me....i am not in favor of sharing postmortem.... I avoid to share postmortem...in fact when my prediction went correct i can not justify in either way at least for now.....nothing much to contribute in astrology postmortem.....those are tools and predictions is something coming from Astrologer state of mind using such tools....I have respect for you (and others) as far as prediction Part is concern....explanation can not be provided only postmortem can be provided later......facts are facts.... I am not saying that charts are incorrect rather i am saying that goto Astrologer he will see you/plam..etc and cast your chart for his personal use.....no emphasis should be for correct TOB... And yes....birth chart are at time of birth not much use....charts are changing for each person they does not remains same through out life.....can be casted at any age when you reach to Astrologer....most people charts remains same through out life same as they got from Birth.....(please do not query on this i will rather prefer to put all this in terms of Poem when got better health and time from god...) P.S.Should i need to clarify that Mr Dev and Me are mitra same as others and Me are mitra via this group(if anybody has objection...not consider me mitra..i am happy no problem) ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Bhaskar wrote: dear Devisingh ji, Forget it. This is an astrology forum. Any predictions coming without analysis and that too from a person who has never displayed a singe anaysis here, makes no meaning. If You check my website you wi find that I am a "Dowser" too. This means that if I come to your house and ask you to give me some normal thread of few inches length, and the rudraksha bead in your neck, if you are wearing one, or in absence of this, any small object lying in your house, I will use the thread and that object to predict everything about, you, your family members, and even those who have not yet been born in your family. But this is not astrology. In absence of above, even if I sit down with my eyes closed for 10 minutes and then beun answerin your queries, i will still be on the mark, if too many questions are not put up by You. But again this is also not astrology. If you wish to predict gender without giving astrological analysis as supporting your predictions, then what it means, we can clearly understand. You need not fear of explaining why you cannot do this. We know why you cant do this. It has been proved time and again that when you are asked to authenticate your claims you back out with goose pimples. regards, Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar JI, > > //But it would be expected from the Astrologer to present his analysis > alongwith.// > > I will not do this.....hope this helps > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhai Sahab, > > > > What conditions ? I dont understand the meaning of this word.. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar JI, > > > > > > Provide me charts (both male and female)with Birth details and Date of > > > marriage..... Without condition i will not provide Analysis..... > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone here can attempt to prove me wrong. > > > > > > > > I can give the data of 10 people alongwith the date of their Birth > > of > > > > child. This saves you trouble as I am not here to test anyone. That > > is > > > > not my right . Neither do I have right to sit on seat of a Judge and > > > > pass judements. So i will provide all information if one requires > > except > > > > the gender of the chid which I can give to the Owner of the Group, > > and > > > > can disclose after one has put his presentations here. If one scores > > 8 > > > > predictions as right, then one can reasonably assume of his having > > some > > > > hold over the Divisional Charts. But it would be expected from the > > > > Astrologer to present his analysis alongwith. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, "Bhaskar" > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, > > > > > > > > > > I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just > > stick to > > > > > certain norms, ethics and understandings. > > > > > > > > > > Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. > > > > > > > > > > Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. > > > > > > > > > > Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. > > > > > > > > > > No issues over here. > > > > > > > > > > But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of the > > > > times > > > > > predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may use, > > and > > > > > however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved by > > many > > > > > stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have documented > > > > proof > > > > > of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. > > > > > > > > > > There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will get a > > > > job, > > > > > when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one will > > have > > > > a > > > > > child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, but > > > > meant > > > > > for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology for > > such > > > > > matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for > > > > > implementations on a higher scale. > > > > > > > > > > About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, > > > > thereafter > > > > > one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately doing > > MBBS > > > > in > > > > > astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot predict > > from > > > > a > > > > > normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another chart > > as an > > > > > aid ? > > > > > > > > > > One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, by > > just > > > > > using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be > > able to > > > > > predict what is going to happen when, even without looking > > Vimsottari > > > > > dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study further > > about > > > > > Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, "Ram Jaswal" > > > > > rkjaswal@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never as > > > > > predictions > > > > > > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better than > > > > > others - > > > > > > after all its purely based around ones own > > interpretation/thoughts > > > > > that > > > > > > have become ingrained over time .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Live and let live should be the mantra ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes .. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Sir, Lets not get into further dissipation of energies and time... Life is too short to discuss much or argue or justify or agree/disagree.... Bhaskar. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar JI, > > I am working to create Excel sheet which can tells 3 possibility for > Adhana Nakshatra and we need to choose correct choice from that and > there are ways that too can be done base on Mense time and after that > 10-14 days conception and else factors....calculations are mine but > after that..... i am using Krushna JI Table...i have no right to share > anybody else work from my name........yes Sreenath JI nice Article of > Bhattopla which inspired for further calculations to me .... > > It is Postmortem only since we know date of delivery.......Anybody can > be very good and can tell correct upto 85% for such postmortem but that > does not value at least for me....i am not in favor of sharing > postmortem.... > > I avoid to share postmortem...in fact when my prediction went correct i > can not justify in either way at least for now.....nothing much to > contribute in astrology postmortem.....those are tools and predictions > is something coming from Astrologer state of mind using such tools....I > have respect for you (and others) as far as prediction Part is > concern....explanation can not be provided only postmortem can be > provided later......facts are facts.... > > I am not saying that charts are incorrect rather i am saying that goto > Astrologer he will see you/plam..etc and cast your chart for his > personal use.....no emphasis should be for correct TOB... > > And yes....birth chart are at time of birth not much use....charts are > changing for each person they does not remains same through out > life.....can be casted at any age when you reach to Astrologer....most > people charts remains same through out life same as they got from > Birth.....(please do not query on this i will rather prefer to put all > this in terms of Poem when got better health and time from god...) > > P.S.Should i need to clarify that Mr Dev and Me are mitra same as others > and Me are mitra via this group(if anybody has objection...not consider > me mitra..i am happy no problem) > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Devisingh ji, > > > > Forget it. This is an astrology forum. Any predictions coming without > > analysis and that too from a person who has never displayed a singe > > anaysis here, makes no meaning. > > > > If You check my website you wi find that I am a " Dowser " too. This means > > that if I come to your house and ask you to give me some normal thread > > of few inches length, and the rudraksha bead in your neck, if you are > > wearing one, or in absence of this, any small object lying in your > > house, I will use the thread and that object to predict everything > > about, you, your family members, and even those who have not yet been > > born in your family. But this is not astrology. > > > > In absence of above, even if I sit down with my eyes closed for 10 > > minutes and then beun answerin your queries, i will still be on the > > mark, if too many questions are not put up by You. But again this is > > also not astrology. > > > > If you wish to predict gender without giving astrological analysis as > > supporting your predictions, then what it means, we can clearly > > understand. You need not fear of explaining why you cannot do this. We > > know why you cant do this. > > > > It has been proved time and again that when you are asked to > > authenticate your claims you back out with goose pimples. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar JI, > > > > > > //But it would be expected from the Astrologer to present his analysis > > > alongwith.// > > > > > > I will not do this.....hope this helps > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Sahab, > > > > > > > > What conditions ? I dont understand the meaning of this word.. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, devisigh > > > > devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar JI, > > > > > > > > > > Provide me charts (both male and female)with Birth details and > > Date of > > > > > marriage..... Without condition i will not provide Analysis..... > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone here can attempt to prove me wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can give the data of 10 people alongwith the date of their > > Birth > > > > of > > > > > > child. This saves you trouble as I am not here to test anyone. > > That > > > > is > > > > > > not my right . Neither do I have right to sit on seat of a Judge > > and > > > > > > pass judements. So i will provide all information if one > > requires > > > > except > > > > > > the gender of the chid which I can give to the Owner of the > > Group, > > > > and > > > > > > can disclose after one has put his presentations here. If one > > scores > > > > 8 > > > > > > predictions as right, then one can reasonably assume of his > > having > > > > some > > > > > > hold over the Divisional Charts. But it would be expected from > > the > > > > > > Astrologer to present his analysis alongwith. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Ram Jaswal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont have any ideologies, and neither stick to any.. I just > > > > stick to > > > > > > > certain norms, ethics and understandings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No issues over here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But prediction of gender cannot come correct more than 50% of > > the > > > > > > times > > > > > > > predictions are made, whatever astrological methods one may > > use, > > > > and > > > > > > > however accurate the birth time may be. This has been proved > > by > > > > many > > > > > > > stalwarts before us, who are still living and who have > > documented > > > > > > proof > > > > > > > of the same, so I am not going to waste time over here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are more important issues in Life, as to when one will > > get a > > > > > > job, > > > > > > > when one wil get cured, when will one get married, when one > > will > > > > have > > > > > > a > > > > > > > child, etc.etc. Astrology is not even meant for such matters, > > but > > > > > > meant > > > > > > > for more spiritual. But this is Kaliyuga so we use astrology > > for > > > > such > > > > > > > matters, otherwise astrological deductions are required for > > > > > > > implementations on a higher scale. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About divisional charts, one needs to be a MBBS Doctor first, > > > > > > thereafter > > > > > > > one may specialise in a particular area. But unfortunately > > doing > > > > MBBS > > > > > > in > > > > > > > astrology is also not everyones cup of tea. If one cannot > > predict > > > > from > > > > > > a > > > > > > > normal Natal Chart, then how will he predict using another > > chart > > > > as an > > > > > > > aid ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One without using Navamsa divisions or Kp or any other method, > > by > > > > just > > > > > > > using transits on Natal positions in a Khokha Kundli should be > > > > able to > > > > > > > predict what is going to happen when, even without looking > > > > Vimsottari > > > > > > > dasha. If one can do this, then he is qualified to study > > further > > > > about > > > > > > > Divisional charts. Tell me how many can do this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > <%40>, " Ram > > Jaswal " > > > > > > > rkjaswal@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Bhaskar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re:prediction from an accurate Birth time - never say never > > as > > > > > > > predictions > > > > > > > > even come true from wrong Birth times ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inaddition what makes you think your ideology is Any better > > than > > > > > > > others - > > > > > > > > after all its purely based around ones own > > > > interpretation/thoughts > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > have become ingrained over time .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Live and let live should be the mantra .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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