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Devisinghji Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a astrologer.sun ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not possible.Am I right?regardsSenthil

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Respected Senthil JI,

 

//Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong//

--Yes that is what story want to convey.....and i know where  he is

wrong

 

//sun ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not

possible//

--does not makes much difference......i mean can not convince ram...

rather it lower Max possibility count only

 

And Yes,I know people who have Good Brain will come to Astrology from

all direction........they will come to AIA for sure......Future

(non-sense) people will find Answer from story itself...

 

--just enjoy.....we need to wait

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

 

senthil nathan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Devisinghji

 Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a astrologer.sun

,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not

possible.Am I right?

regards

 

Senthil

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Senthil ji,

 

This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun and cannot fall into

the probability equation.

 

This significantly reduces the number.

 

However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart. Although D-9 is a

derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in like with a certain D-1,

all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken into consideration.

 

 

, senthil nathan <jpshelters

wrote:

>

> Devisinghji

>  Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a astrologer.sun ,venus & mer

go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not possible.Am I right?

> regards

>

> Senthil

>

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Dear Satya JI,

 

(which are not interested please Ignore )

 

Let me Add here.......There is nothing incorrect in calculations

Yes,As far as calculation is concern they are very much correct and

show Max count.....Only Count gets reduced from total count....

 

//all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken into

consideration.//

--It takes all possibility of placement not only for D-9 but All

D-chart,KP Sub and Sub-Sub...etc

--Upto 1/2 Degree calculation there.....which can be extended

further.....

 

Please try to calculate using 2 planet and less possibility you

surprise that It takes all D-Charts and All.....with Gochar,Dasha as

well.........

If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone

who know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here)

 

--Hope this helps

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

 

Satya wrote:

 

 

Senthil ji,

 

This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun and cannot

fall into the probability equation.

 

This significantly reduces the number.

 

However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart. Although D-9 is

a derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in like with a

certain D-1, all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken into

consideration.

 

,

senthil nathan <jpshelters wrote:

>

> Devisinghji

> Â Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a astrologer.sun

,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not

possible.Am I right?

> regards

>

> Senthil

>

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Dear Devisingh ji,

 

(whoever is not interested please ignore ) -> I like this style.

 

" If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone who

know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here "

 

I shall be really grateful if you show an example for my own understanding.

 

 

 

 

, devisigh <devisingh.rajput

wrote:

>

> Dear Satya JI,

>

> (which are not interested please Ignore )

>

> Let me Add here.......There is nothing incorrect in calculations

> Yes,As far as calculation is concern they are very much correct and show

> Max count.....Only Count gets reduced from total count....

>

> //all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken into

> consideration.//

> --It takes all possibility of placement not only for D-9 but All

> D-chart,KP Sub and Sub-Sub...etc

> --Upto 1/2 Degree calculation there.....which can be extended further.....

>

> Please try to calculate using 2 planet and less possibility you surprise

> that It takes all D-Charts and All.....with Gochar,Dasha as well.........

> If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone

> who know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here)

>

> --Hope this helps

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

>

> Satya wrote:

> >

> >

> > Senthil ji,

> >

> > This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun and cannot

> > fall into the probability equation.

> >

> > This significantly reduces the number.

> >

> > However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart. Although D-9

> > is a derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in like with a

> > certain D-1, all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken

> > into consideration.

> >

> >

> > <%40>, senthil nathan

> > <jpshelters@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Devisinghji

> > > Â Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a astrologer.sun

> > ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not

> > possible.Am I right?

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Senthil

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Satya JI,

 

I am trying to provide a little example which may helps for further

calculations as calculations become big as entity gets increase

 

Lets take 9 degree instead 360....2planet instead 9+1

Planet could be in any of degree 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9....at any moment

since we have 2 planet it is easy to calculate MAX possibility due to

moments of 2 planets

p1 p2

1 1

1 2

1 3

1 4

1 5

1 6

1 7

1 8

1 9

2 1......

3 1.....

......

9 9

 

Finally we will get number of charts are .....81...not more then 81

charts are possible at all with our considered Parameters....same can

be calculated further by changing variables

 

9 degree and 2 planet simply says ....9^2=81 Maximum possibility of

arrangements only

No future chart will be except from these 81 possibility...since focus

is on planet degree nothing remaining from calculations everything

other are captured

 

Since these are basic steps you can make more calculations using these

steps to arrive at count ........It is not much difficult just change

variables to accommodate what you want

One should not surprise if he can locate same chart as His chart

planet/Asc degree/dasha/gochar....after calculation.....you can locate

and reach same chart of yours in Past.....

 

what anybody can say further from this......

--More Emphasis for correct BT upto seconds....even we do not arrive

yet to have correct BT without single Doubt

 

--hope this helps....Jyotish is misunderstood (no question please on

this topic)

------------------

Regards,

Devisingh

 

 

Satya wrote:

 

 

Dear Devisingh ji,

 

(whoever is not interested please ignore ) -> I like this style.

 

"If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny

anyone who know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here"

 

I shall be really grateful if you show an example for my own

understanding.

 

,

devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

>

> Dear Satya JI,

>

> (which are not interested please Ignore )

>

> Let me Add here.......There is nothing incorrect in calculations

> Yes,As far as calculation is concern they are very much correct

and show

> Max count.....Only Count gets reduced from total count....

>

> //all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken into

> consideration.//

> --It takes all possibility of placement not only for D-9 but All

> D-chart,KP Sub and Sub-Sub...etc

> --Upto 1/2 Degree calculation there.....which can be extended

further.....

>

> Please try to calculate using 2 planet and less possibility you

surprise

> that It takes all D-Charts and All.....with Gochar,Dasha as

well.........

> If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny

anyone

> who know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here)

>

> --Hope this helps

> ------------------

> Regards,

> Devisingh

>

>

> Satya wrote:

> >

> >

> > Senthil ji,

> >

> > This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun

and cannot

> > fall into the probability equation.

> >

> > This significantly reduces the number.

> >

> > However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart.

Although D-9

> > is a derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in

like with a

> > certain D-1, all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be

taken

> > into consideration.

> >

> >

 

> > <%40>,

senthil nathan

> > <jpshelters@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Devisinghji

> > > Â Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a

astrologer.sun

> > ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is

not

> > possible.Am I right?

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Senthil

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Devisingh-ji,

 

I have not understood what you are trying to convey.

 

Maths is beautiful....it can handle all measurable quantities, provided the basic

interaction of different Factors are clealy understood.

 

The Maths you are talking about...it is not telling how it can be used in practice.

What are the boundary conditions...etc.

 

Yes, somebody did calculate possible nos. of combination for different planets

and he did come out with a figure of 45 million...give or take a few.

 

But it did not help anybody as far as prediction part is concerned.

 

Anyway, let me not waste my time or anybody else time..and I stop further

correspondence on this issue.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of devisighFriday, March 05, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: Always Dare

Dear Satya JI,I am trying to provide a little example which may helps for further calculations as calculations become big as entity gets increaseLets take 9 degree instead 360....2planet instead 9+1Planet could be in any of degree 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9....at any momentsince we have 2 planet it is easy to calculate MAX possibility due to moments of 2 planetsp1 p21 11 21 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 1......3 1..........9 9Finally we will get number of charts are .....81...not more then 81 charts are possible at all with our considered Parameters....same can be calculated further by changing variables9 degree and 2 planet simply says ....9^2=81 Maximum possibility of arrangements only No future chart will be except from these 81 possibility...since focus is on planet degree nothing remaining from calculations everything other are capturedSince these are basic steps you can make more calculations using these steps to arrive at count ........It is not much difficult just change variables to accommodate what you want One should not surprise if he can locate same chart as His chart planet/Asc degree/dasha/gochar....after calculation.....you can locate and reach same chart of yours in Past.....what anybody can say further from this......--More Emphasis for correct BT upto seconds....even we do not arrive yet to have correct BT without single Doubt--hope this helps....Jyotish is misunderstood (no question please on this topic)------------------ Regards, DevisinghSatya wrote:

Dear Devisingh ji,(whoever is not interested please ignore ) -> I like this style."If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone who know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here"I shall be really grateful if you show an example for my own understanding. , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:>> Dear Satya JI,> > (which are not interested please Ignore )> > Let me Add here.......There is nothing incorrect in calculations> Yes,As far as calculation is concern they are very much correct and show > Max count.....Only Count gets reduced from total count....> > //all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken into > consideration.//> --It takes all possibility of placement not only for D-9 but All > D-chart,KP Sub and Sub-Sub...etc> --Upto 1/2 Degree calculation there.....which can be extended further.....> > Please try to calculate using 2 planet and less possibility you surprise > that It takes all D-Charts and All.....with Gochar,Dasha as well.........> If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone > who know Math.....(Astrologer are excluded here)> > --Hope this helps> ------------------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Satya wrote:> > > >> > Senthil ji,> >> > This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun and cannot > > fall into the probability equation.> >> > This significantly reduces the number.> >> > However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart. Although D-9 > > is a derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in like with a > > certain D-1, all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken > > into consideration.> >> > > > <%40>, senthil nathan > > <jpshelters@> wrote:> > >> > > Devisinghji> > > Â Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a astrologer.sun > > ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not > > possible.Am I right?> > > regards> > >> > > Senthil> > >> >> >>

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Knowing all the combination of planets, all the possible results due to these numerous combinations can be computed by a computer if all the results are preloaded.

But then that will be too many predictions and we have to look at which one is accurate or relevant.

Yes you do not need astrology even. One wise person may correctly guess a persons fate depending on just his behavior.

Astrology gives insights on WHY also, not just WHEN and WHAT. Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sat, 6/3/10, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:

devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Always Dare Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:45 PM

Dear Chakraborty JI,

//Anyway, let me not waste my time or anybody else time..and I stop further

correspondence on this issue.//(Please ignore below content if above is your stand.....)//I have not understood what you are trying to convey.//using mathematical calculations i shown that any future chart are not future charts rather they are past charts.....no new chart can be possible out of figure one can found by taking all possibility (already proved)

 

It proves that Predictions can be possible and correct prediction can also be possible but emphasis should not be for correct Charts...

People should not take Risk to achieve desired chart Rather they should realise that It is not chart that shows destiny...rather it is Astrologer.. ..

There is no controversy anywhere?? All methods are accurate and can give correct prediction.. .....it is not method that has much importance.. ..rather astrologer state of mind

Palm,crystal Ball,Tarrot, God....anything can work they are instruments. .....they are of less value

Astrology is not subject which required to be studied for whole life to....rather it is required to be practiced....it takes time but

Astrology is Occult subject where Others laws are Others...... each should have their own laws.....once they have own laws then worth to doubt

Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too.

Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too.

Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart.

Prediction can come true using any chart

Chart Does not contains any predictions, It is astrologer state of mind...right mental state that connect with spirit...P.S.I have enough justification for what i utter.....These are my views.... it is your freedom take or leave.....------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghChakraborty, PL wrote:

Dear Devisingh-ji,

 

I have not understood what you are trying to convey.

 

Maths is beautiful... .it can handle all measurable quantities, provided the basic

interaction of different Factors are clealy understood.

 

The Maths you are talking about...it is not telling how it can be used in practice.

What are the boundary conditions.. .etc.

 

Yes, somebody did calculate possible nos. of combination for different planets

and he did come out with a figure of 45 million...give or take a few.

 

But it did not help anybody as far as prediction part is concerned.

 

Anyway, let me not waste my time or anybody else time..and I stop further

correspondence on this issue.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of devisighFriday, March 05, 2010 1:29 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Always Dare

Dear Satya JI,I am trying to provide a little example which may helps for further calculations as calculations become big as entity gets increaseLets take 9 degree instead 360....2planet instead 9+1Planet could be in any of degree 1/2/3/4/5/6/ 7/8/9.... at any momentsince we have 2 planet it is easy to calculate MAX possibility due to moments of 2 planetsp1 p21 11 21 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 1......3 1..........9 9Finally we will get number of charts are .....81...not more then 81 charts are possible at all with our considered Parameters.. ..same can be calculated further by changing variables9 degree and 2 planet simply says ....9^2=81 Maximum possibility of arrangements only No future chart will be except

from these 81 possibility. ..since focus is on planet degree nothing remaining from calculations everything other are capturedSince these are basic steps you can make more calculations using these steps to arrive at count ........It is not much difficult just change variables to accommodate what you want One should not surprise if he can locate same chart as His chart planet/Asc degree/dasha/ gochar... .after calculation. ....you can locate and reach same chart of yours in Past.....what anybody can say further from this......--More Emphasis for correct BT upto seconds....even we do not arrive yet to have correct BT without single Doubt--hope this helps....Jyotish is misunderstood (no question please on this topic)------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghSatya wrote:

Dear Devisingh ji,(whoever is not interested please ignore ) -> I like this style."If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone who know Math.....(Astrologe r are excluded here"I shall be really grateful if you show an example for my own understanding.ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Satya JI,> > (which are not interested please Ignore )> > Let me Add here.......There is nothing incorrect in calculations> Yes,As far as calculation is concern they are very much correct and show > Max count.....Only Count gets reduced from total count....> > //all possibilities of

placement in D-9 cannot be taken into > consideration. //> --It takes all possibility of placement not only for D-9 but All > D-chart,KP Sub and Sub-Sub...etc> --Upto 1/2 Degree calculation there.....which can be extended further.....> > Please try to calculate using 2 planet and less possibility you surprise > that It takes all D-Charts and All.....with Gochar,Dasha as well........ .> If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone > who know Math.....(Astrologe r are excluded here)> > --Hope this helps> ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Satya wrote:> > > >> > Senthil ji,> >> > This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun and cannot > > fall into the probability equation.> >> > This significantly reduces the

number.> >> > However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart. Although D-9 > > is a derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in like with a > > certain D-1, all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken > > into consideration.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, senthil nathan > > <jpshelters@ > wrote:> > >> > > Devisinghji> > > Â Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a

astrologer.sun > > ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not > > possible.Am I right?> > > regards> > >> > > Senthil> > >> >> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Sir,//Astrology gives insights on WHY also, not just WHEN and WHAT.//kindly add How and Where also.Regards

Kulbir Bains--- On Sat, 6/3/10, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote:chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjivRe: Re: Always Dare Date: Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 8:25 AM

 

 

Knowing all the combination of planets, all the possible results due to these numerous combinations can be computed by a computer if all the results are preloaded.

But then that will be too many predictions and we have to look at which one is accurate or relevant.

Yes you do not need astrology even. One wise person may correctly guess a persons fate depending on just his behavior.

Astrology gives insights on WHY also, not just WHEN and WHAT. Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sat, 6/3/10, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:

devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Always Dareancient_indian_ astrologySaturday, 6 March, 2010, 1:45 PM

Dear Chakraborty JI,

//Anyway, let me not waste my time or anybody else time..and I stop further

correspondence on this issue.//(Please ignore below content if above is your stand.....)//I have not understood what you are trying to convey.//using mathematical calculations i shown that any future chart are not future charts rather they are past charts.....no new chart can be possible out of figure one can found by taking all possibility (already proved)

 

It proves that Predictions can be possible and correct prediction can also be possible but emphasis should not be for correct Charts...

People should not take Risk to achieve desired chart Rather they should realise that It is not chart that shows destiny...rather it is Astrologer.. ..

There is no controversy anywhere?? All methods are accurate and can give correct prediction.. .....it is not method that has much importance.. ..rather astrologer state of mind

Palm,crystal Ball,Tarrot, God....anything can work they are instruments. .....they are of less value

Astrology is not subject which required to be studied for whole life to....rather it is required to be practiced....it takes time but

Astrology is Occult subject where Others laws are Others...... each should have their own laws.....once they have own laws then worth to doubt

Predictions can come wrong from a righ birth time too.

Predictions can come right from a wrong birth time too.

Predictions can come without even erecting a Birth Chart.

Prediction can come true using any chart

Chart Does not contains any predictions, It is astrologer state of mind...right mental state that connect with spirit...P.S.I have enough justification for what i utter.....These are my views.... it is your freedom take or leave.....------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghChakraborty, PL wrote:

Dear Devisingh-ji,

 

I have not understood what you are trying to convey.

 

Maths is beautiful... .it can handle all measurable quantities, provided the basic

interaction of different Factors are clealy understood.

 

The Maths you are talking about...it is not telling how it can be used in practice.

What are the boundary conditions.. .etc.

 

Yes, somebody did calculate possible nos. of combination for different planets

and he did come out with a figure of 45 million...give or take a few.

 

But it did not help anybody as far as prediction part is concerned.

 

Anyway, let me not waste my time or anybody else time..and I stop further

correspondence on this issue.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of devisighFriday, March 05, 2010 1:29 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Always Dare

Dear Satya JI,I am trying to provide a little example which may helps for further calculations as calculations become big as entity gets increaseLets take 9 degree instead 360....2planet instead 9+1Planet could be in any of degree 1/2/3/4/5/6/ 7/8/9.... at any momentsince we have 2 planet it is easy to calculate MAX possibility due to moments of 2 planetsp1 p21 11 21 3 1 4 1 5 1 6 1 7 1 8 1 9 2 1......3 1..........9 9Finally we will get number of charts are .....81...not more then 81 charts are possible at all with our considered Parameters.. ..same can be calculated further by changing variables9 degree and 2 planet simply says ....9^2=81 Maximum possibility of arrangements only No future chart will be except

from these 81 possibility. ..since focus is on planet degree nothing remaining from calculations everything other are capturedSince these are basic steps you can make more calculations using these steps to arrive at count ........It is not much difficult just change variables to accommodate what you want One should not surprise if he can locate same chart as His chart planet/Asc degree/dasha/ gochar... .after calculation. ....you can locate and reach same chart of yours in Past.....what anybody can say further from this......--More Emphasis for correct BT upto seconds....even we do not arrive yet to have correct BT without single Doubt--hope this helps....Jyotish is misunderstood (no question please on this topic)------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghSatya wrote:

Dear Devisingh ji,(whoever is not interested please ignore ) -> I like this style."If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone who know Math.....(Astrologe r are excluded here"I shall be really grateful if you show an example for my own understanding.ancient_indian_ astrology, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Satya JI,> > (which are not interested please Ignore )> > Let me Add here.......There is nothing incorrect in calculations> Yes,As far as calculation is concern they are very much correct and show > Max count.....Only Count gets reduced from total count....> > //all possibilities of

placement in D-9 cannot be taken into > consideration. //> --It takes all possibility of placement not only for D-9 but All > D-chart,KP Sub and Sub-Sub...etc> --Upto 1/2 Degree calculation there.....which can be extended further.....> > Please try to calculate using 2 planet and less possibility you surprise > that It takes all D-Charts and All.....with Gochar,Dasha as well........ .> If you want i can show calculation with steps which can not deny anyone > who know Math.....(Astrologe r are excluded here)> > --Hope this helps> ------------ ------> Regards,> Devisingh> > > Satya wrote:> > > >> > Senthil ji,> >> > This is very true. Ven, Mer positions are dependent on Sun and cannot > > fall into the probability equation.> >> > This significantly reduces the

number.> >> > However, such possibilities exist in the Navamsa chart. Although D-9 > > is a derivation from D-1 and certain dependencies come in like with a > > certain D-1, all possibilities of placement in D-9 cannot be taken > > into consideration.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, senthil nathan > > <jpshelters@ > wrote:> > >> > > Devisinghji> > > Â Ram is right mathematically but he is wrong as a

astrologer.sun > > ,venus & mer go within 60deg and factorial calculation is not > > possible.Am I right?> > > regards> > >> > > Senthil> > >> >> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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