Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 A good bit of info from Raghvendrachar ji. Me too have this text vijnana bhairava tantra (vbt) with me. Osho spoke a lot about this text in his discourses and texts.Love and regards,Sreenadh--- On Fri, 3/12/10, raghavendra char <sujokachar wrote:raghavendra char <sujokacharFwd: acupuncture is vb tantra - sloka 93sreesogDate: Friday, March 12, 2010, 12:18 PM there is an ancient sanskrit text called vijnana bhairava tantra (vbt). this is known as a yogic book. but many people are not aware that this is also an acupuncture book. acupuncture is a therapy based on panchamahabhutha (pmb) - five-element - principles. this india-born chikitse exported to china in ancient times. india has lot this knowledge completely, whereas china has preserved this, improved upon it and most importantly, practicing acupuncture even today. hence, it is called as chinese medicine. pmb is a vedic cosmology. therefore, all the vedic and upanishad texts tells the story of pmb in different manners. acupuncture tells that pmps are spread all over the human body in the name of aksharas, mantras, marmas, vital centres of prana, etc. vbt tells the same thing and it offers methods to release the prana blocked in the different body parts. let us see what sloke 93 of vbt says: kinchidangam vibhidyaadau teekshnasoochyaadinaa tatah; tatraiva chetanaam yuktvaa bhairave nirmalaa gatih. the meaning of the above sloka is that insert a sharp needle on the body parts, so that blocked prana starts flowing freely to the whole body. since acupuncture tells the same, this is an acupuncture sloke. many slokas in vbt are acupuncture slokas; although it is a yogic book. acupuncture and yoga are two faces of a coin. acupuncture tells that this human body is nothing but the playground for prana to unfurl cosmic manifestation. raghavendrachar yoga shikshak & sujok acupuncturist bangalore - india. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Dear Sreenadh JI, I am not clear what Title "acupuncture is vb tantra" convey here?? //but many people are not aware that this is also an acupuncture book.// There are some Buddha Techniques matching same as VBT.....osho deliberately clarified about such reference....VBT is enough if used by Prior understanding..It is not acupuncture book... ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Sreenadh OG wrote: A good bit of info from Raghvendrachar ji. Me too have this text vijnana bhairava tantra (vbt) with me. Osho spoke a lot about this text in his discourses and texts. Love and regards, Sreenadh --- On Fri, 3/12/10, raghavendra char <sujokachar > wrote: raghavendra char <sujokachar > Fwd: acupuncture is vb tantra - sloka 93 sreesog Friday, March 12, 2010, 12:18 PM there is an ancient sanskrit text called vijnana bhairava tantra (vbt). this is known as a yogic book. but many people are not aware that this is also an acupuncture book. acupuncture is a therapy based on panchamahabhutha (pmb) - five-element - principles. this india-born chikitse exported to china in ancient times. india has lot this knowledge completely, whereas china has preserved this, improved upon it and most importantly, practicing acupuncture even today. hence, it is called as chinese medicine. pmb is a vedic cosmology. therefore, all the vedic and upanishad texts tells the story of pmb in different manners. acupuncture tells that pmps are spread all over the human body in the name of aksharas, mantras, marmas, vital centres of prana, etc. vbt tells the same thing and it offers methods to release the prana blocked in the different body parts. let us see what sloke 93 of vbt says: kinchidangam vibhidyaadau teekshnasoochyaadinaa tatah; tatraiva chetanaam yuktvaa bhairave nirmalaa gatih. the meaning of the above sloka is that insert a sharp needle on the body parts, so that blocked prana starts flowing freely to the whole body. since acupuncture tells the same, this is an acupuncture sloke. many slokas in vbt are acupuncture slokas; although it is a yogic book. acupuncture and yoga are two faces of a coin. acupuncture tells that this human body is nothing but the playground for prana to unfurl cosmic manifestation. raghavendrachar yoga shikshak & sujok acupuncturist bangalore - india. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Dear Devi Singh ji,//> I am not clear what Title "acupuncture is vb tantra" convey here??// Mails are written by people and not machines and so typos are just natural. The said mail is from "raghavendr achar" ji (a member of this group) and ofcourse there is a typo in the subject line (heading). Possibly it should be read - "Acupuncture IN aVijnana Bhairava Tantra - Sloka 93". Hope this helps. Anyway, many people might have understood it so, without this explanation note by me. And I am (just like you) is an on looker for that mail, who may use his intellect to interpret/understand the mails forwarded. Try with Sunil Nair ji's mails for some time - then even cryptic of cryptic mails will become an easy nut for you; even the most unexpected nasty typos will become children once faced with his great ones! :=) As far as typos are concerned, I am also not that bad - eventhough not good enough to compete with our reputed, knowledgeable and affectionate members like Sunil Nair ji and Sai ji. Language is for communication and if their language effectively does it, then why worry about small typos and there (or even if everywhere). :)//> There are some Buddha Techniques matching same as VBT.....osho > deliberately clarified about such reference....VBT is enough if used by > Prior understanding..It is not acupuncture book...// You are right - but you missed an important point. People look at things based on their acquired (already having) knowledge. It is the way every PRACTICAL scholars/people look at things (even though it may not be the 'theoretically correct' approach). This 'practical perspective' has a great advantage - it usually brings-up some innovative info and being a unique perspective contributes something valuable not only to the that individual but also for the on lookers; usually without him that perspective might have been missed. It is the same happening here as well; just a very very natural thing (I wonder why you miss it!). Raghavendr Achar is an sujok acupuncturist and it is just natural that when he reading sloka 93 of Vijnana Bhairava Tantra he correlated it with his existing knowledge and shared with us some of the thoughts that came to his mind. A unique perspective - that is readily useful to him, and might be useful to us. You can see numerous such instances in this group. I hope gradually you will get a hang of it. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh JI,> > I am not clear what Title "acupuncture is vb tantra" convey here??> > //but many people are not aware that this is also an acupuncture book.//> There are some Buddha Techniques matching same as VBT.....osho > deliberately clarified about such reference....VBT is enough if used by > Prior understanding..It is not acupuncture book...> > ------------------> Regards,> Devisingh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Dear Sreenadh JI, I knew facts since message posted....so taken time for ponder and replied...you will justify that Reader might be 'Dumb reader' we may help to provide clarity what we know leave no more room for anyone to get different message then conveyed Even if you have not replied then only one can get answer from my post itself that you have seen well I could realize that message may convey something else... as soon as you forwarded message and i read that...and hence delay in reply...... Later i thought that it could misguide to someone new comer to group may be in future so thread require to make that clear... My intension was humble (to help others)....i may sound somewhere different but intension was very humble behind that.... //Try with Sunil Nair ji's mails for some time - then even cryptic of cryptic mails will become an easy nut for you; // I have regard for Sunil Nair Ji .....i need to review my post again with him since you have pointed out this....i love to play/Experiment with cryptic Language from my childhood //You can see numerous such instances in this group. I hope gradually you will get a hang of it. :)// --good one ------------------ Regards, Devisingh sreesog wrote: Dear Devi Singh ji, //> I am not clear what Title "acupuncture is vb tantra" convey here??// Mails are written by people and not machines and so typos are just natural. The said mail is from "raghavendr achar" ji (a member of this group) and ofcourse there is a typo in the subject line (heading). Possibly it should be read - "Acupuncture IN aVijnana Bhairava Tantra - Sloka 93". Hope this helps. Anyway, many people might have understood it so, without this explanation note by me. And I am (just like you) is an on looker for that mail, who may use his intellect to interpret/understand the mails forwarded. Try with Sunil Nair ji's mails for some time - then even cryptic of cryptic mails will become an easy nut for you; even the most unexpected nasty typos will become children once faced with his great ones! :=) As far as typos are concerned, I am also not that bad - eventhough not good enough to compete with our reputed, knowledgeable and affectionate members like Sunil Nair ji and Sai ji. Language is for communication and if their language effectively does it, then why worry about small typos and there (or even if everywhere). //> There are some Buddha Techniques matching same as VBT.....osho > deliberately clarified about such reference....VBT is enough if used by > Prior understanding..It is not acupuncture book...// You are right - but you missed an important point. People look at things based on their acquired (already having) knowledge. It is the way every PRACTICAL scholars/people look at things (even though it may not be the 'theoretically correct' approach). This 'practical perspective' has a great advantage - it usually brings-up some innovative info and being a unique perspective contributes something valuable not only to the that individual but also for the on lookers; usually without him that perspective might have been missed. It is the same happening here as well; just a very very natural thing (I wonder why you miss it!). Raghavendr Achar is an sujok acupuncturist and it is just natural that when he reading sloka 93 of Vijnana Bhairava Tantra he correlated it with his existing knowledge and shared with us some of the thoughts that came to his mind. A unique perspective - that is readily useful to him, and might be useful to us. You can see numerous such instances in this group. I hope gradually you will get a hang of it. Love and regards, Sreenadh , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Sreenadh JI, > > I am not clear what Title "acupuncture is vb tantra" convey here?? > > //but many people are not aware that this is also an acupuncture book.// > There are some Buddha Techniques matching same as VBT.....osho > deliberately clarified about such reference....VBT is enough if used by > Prior understanding..It is not acupuncture book... > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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