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Dear Members Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a diffrnt forum rgrds sunil nair --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

 

 

Dear members

 

here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4 1925 2 pm trichy

 

leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6, mercury 8th venus sun in 9th moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

 

wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18 2 2005 children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one no issues all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner living with one daughter ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking

 

children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

 

here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury neecha banga exactly moon and mars kenthra to jupiter giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

 

in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good official worker also

 

no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive wife not in good health lot of disease to him nerve trouble eye nose etc etc..three good brothers in full status died recently 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties also

 

Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

 

at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2 exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing manifested in his hors.

 

closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc

 

there should be some unknown rules to explain if members have any points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

 

i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation people

 

with regards

 

sairaman

 

..

 

IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

 

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Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

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[hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:

hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40. com>

Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

 

I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and Vishmotary

 

Dasha for this I request

 

To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your own cases

 

or to your known confirmed bio data

 

with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your

 

occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and want to

 

have an answer to that.

 

This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if I am

 

allowed or not to use

 

it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.

 

As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

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Hello

 

The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out some blemishes.

Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.

 

Dasa of Moon is running.

Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.

Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator of Brothers.

Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is also weak in Shadbala.

So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till 2012 Aug 21.

 

Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also in Rasi.

 

For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun are considered to be yoga karakas.

Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in Shadbala and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.

 

These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.

 

OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA

Regards

Parasara

 

 

--- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji Date: Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Members Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a diffrnt forum rgrds sunil nair --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:

 

Dear members here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4 1925 2 pm trichy leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6, mercury 8th venus sun in 9th moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18 2 2005 children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one no issues all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner living with one daughter ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking children wife health childrfen life all failed miserablyhere saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury neecha

banga exactly moon and mars kenthra to jupiter giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good official worker also no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive wife not in good health lot of disease to him nerve trouble eye nose etc etc..three good brothers in full status died recently 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties also Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2 exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good

yoga nothing nothing manifested in his hors.closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etcthere should be some unknown rules to explain if members have any points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation peoplewith regards sairaman.IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS ____________ _________ _________ __Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>hanskpvedicSat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PMRE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression: “u can quota my detailsâ€Please give me events dates of your life.I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you

wish.Thanks in advance.Inder Jit Sahnihanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On Behalf Of sujata das12 March, 2010 11:05 PMhanskpvedicRe: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:u can quota my details--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >[hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40. com> Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PMI am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and VishmotaryDasha for this I request To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data

for your own casesor to your known confirmed bio data with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /youroccupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and want tohave an answer to that.This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if I amallowed or not to useit in future research paper without mentioning your reference.As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.With Best Wishes,Inder Jit Sahni----------Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release 03/10/10 01:03:00

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Dear parasara JI many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most of the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??some of ur reading baffles me One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is case i think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and navamsa 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what is the basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details provided by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ?? sairaman Ji s father in lawNatal Chart April 29, 1925Time: 14:00:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00" Trichinapalli, IndiaTithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) Rgrds sunil nair , Parasara Hora Sastra <hparasara wrote:>> Hello>  > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out some blemishes.> Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.>  > Dasa of Moon is running.> Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator of Brothers.> Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is also weak in Shadbala.> So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till 2012 Aug 21.>  > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also in Rasi.>  > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun are  considered to be yoga karakas.> Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in Shadbala and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.>  > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.>  > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> Regards> Parasara>  >  > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Members > >  Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a diffrnt forum > > rgrds sunil nair > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > >  > > Dear members > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4 1925  2 pm trichy > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6, mercury 8th  venus sun in 9th moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18 2 2005 children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one no issues all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them   job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner living with one daughter ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury neecha banga exactly moon and mars kenthra to jupiter giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good official worker also > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive wife not in good health lot of disease to him nerve trouble eye nose etc etc..three good brothers in  full status died recently 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties also > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2 exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing manifested in his hors.> > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > there should be some unknown rules to explain if members have any points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation people> > with regards > > sairaman> > .> > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> hanskpvedic> Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> >  > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > Please give me events dates of your life.> > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > Thanks in advance.> > Inder Jit Sahni> > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On Behalf Of sujata das> 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> hanskpvedic> Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > u can quota my details> > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40. com> > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and Vishmotary> > Dasha for this I request > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your own cases> > or to your known confirmed bio data > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your> > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and want to> > have an answer to that.> > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if I am> > allowed or not to use> > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > With Best Wishes,> > Inder Jit Sahni> > ----------> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release 03/10/10 01:03:00> >

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Thanks for an interesting chart Sunil ji. I think he is unfortunate and has to suffer his karma. The reasons presented by Parashara ji (member who posted in this thread, not our Rishi Parashara) do not justify the kind of miseries this person is facing. There must be a set of peculiar conditions working in a chart to take one towards such a miserable end.

5L of poorv punya is also the 8L of miseries in 5H indicating that he must enjoy/suffer due to his previous karma. His 5H/Jupiter is perfect example of bhav-bhavesh-karak (all eggs in one basket) badly afflicted by malefics. Jup himself is weak and almost reaching its debilitation Rashi. Though as karaka of children in own house did give him progeny (those who vote for karko bhav nashaye can check this out) but an afflicted karak could not sustain happiness through children. Other significations of Jup also suffer, such as no elder sibling, no wealth, etc.

Regarding wife, 7H has no benefic aspect and 7L is Saturn is also the 6L. Karak venus is combust in shatru sthan and debilitated and afflicted in navamsh. LL/7L opposition is close mutual confrontation of Sun-Sat involving Venus. A constant discord is clear in the chart.

The native himself with an exalted lagna lord in 9H is dominating and egoistic. Lagna with 33 points and LL well placed in navamsha allowed him to pull on till this time. Karak for speech as well as lord of 2H of speech mercury is also weak, debilitated and retrograde in 8H indicating harshness of speech and indiscipline.

All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.Similarly we can find indications for his suffering for any issue.But the real problem of this chart is that the pillars of sustenance, the Vishnusthanas are empty. The person will not be able to sustain anything which he’d receive by virtue of his trikonas or lakshmi/fortune. Not only natal chart, even the important divisions, like D-9, D-3 and D-4 have empty kendras or a single malefic there. We’ve discussed such charts earlier on the list and they can be found in the archives.

Hope this is usefulRegardsNeelam

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From: astro_tellerkeralaDate: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:53:31 +0530 Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

 

 

 

 

Dear Members Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a diffrnt forum rgrds sunil nair --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat <sairaman53 > wrote:

 

 

Dear members

 

here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4 1925 2 pm trichy

 

leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6, mercury 8th venus sun in 9th moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

 

wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18 2 2005 children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one no issues all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner living with one daughter ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking

 

children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

 

here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury neecha banga exactly moon and mars kenthra to jupiter giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

 

in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good official worker also

 

no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive wife not in good health lot of disease to him nerve trouble eye nose etc etc..three good brothers in full status died recently 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties also

 

Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

 

at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2 exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing manifested in his hors.

 

closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc

 

there should be some unknown rules to explain if members have any points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

 

i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation people

 

with regards

 

sairaman

 

..

 

IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

hanskpvedic

Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM

RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:

 

“u can quota my details”

 

Please give me events dates of your life.

 

I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On Behalf Of sujata das

12 March, 2010 11:05 PM

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Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:

 

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--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:

 

Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >

[hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:

hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40. com>

Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

 

I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and Vishmotary

 

Dasha for this I request

 

To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your own cases

 

or to your known confirmed bio data

 

with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your

 

occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and want to

 

have an answer to that.

 

This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if I am

 

allowed or not to use

 

it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.

 

As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.

 

With Best Wishes,

 

Inder Jit Sahni

 

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Dear Neelam Ji Thanks for ur valuable observations and reading on this chart .I think u almost said it --.> All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.I was waiting for other memebrs to participate ,we hav so many knowledgeble ,blessed exprnced ,senior ,inventive ,experts in our forum who always participate in discussions and when their expertise is expected they r simply doing lip service and seen No where ,My questions to shri parasarji was my eagerness to know abt his method of predictions ,i wanted to know which system he was using is it suryasidhanthic or drik pakshiya one any way last day in some other grp some one was enguiring abt where he can find the lineage of parasara rishi .the problem with shri sai raman ji is even tho he posts such charts as far some events or clarifications is concerned he is never avlble promptly .i will try to put my views after when every one has participated in this tread and if my time permits .One thing i said to many in pvt and even in many grps there is some Omens appearing during the time of birth of a person ( as it is Limited to purticular place ) also can influence a chart which only old village astrologers used to record it and use it .even Varaha Hora and kerala sastra s mentions abt it ,i dont know abt parasara Hora as 100 s of Texts available and each claiming as original Hora ULKO Urvi chalano -------dhoomakketu ---( means falling of meteors ,earth quacks ,Dig dahanam ( all directions burning ),dhooma ketu , suns disc has special appearance etc -----) also any bad Nimitta s )this is discussed in Varaha hora.one funny thing i noted in this chart is if birth time is correct he Born in mercury Hora and mercury 's day ( wednesday ) and mercury is debilated in his chart Tho according to some defenition we can say it is cancelled debilation I will try to write later and i invite all other members s to put their opinions / reading abt the chart and strt disccussing .rgrds sunil nair , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Thanks for an interesting chart Sunil ji. I think he is unfortunate and has> to suffer his karma. The reasons presented by Parashara ji (member who> posted in this thread, not our Rishi Parashara) do not justify the kind of> miseries this person is facing. There must be a set of peculiar conditions> working in a chart to take one towards such a miserable end.> > 5L of poorv punya is also the 8L of miseries in 5H indicating that he must> enjoy/suffer due to his previous karma. His 5H/Jupiter is perfect example of> bhav-bhavesh-karak (all eggs in one basket) badly afflicted by malefics. Jup> himself is weak and almost reaching its debilitation Rashi. Though as karaka> of children in own house did give him progeny (those who vote for karko bhav> nashaye can check this out) but an afflicted karak could not sustain> happiness through children. Other significations of Jup also suffer, such as> no elder sibling, no wealth, etc.> > Regarding wife, 7H has no benefic aspect and 7L is Saturn is also the 6L.> Karak venus is combust in shatru sthan and debilitated and afflicted in> navamsh. LL/7L opposition is close mutual confrontation of Sun-Sat involving> Venus. A constant discord is clear in the chart.> > The native himself with an exalted lagna lord in 9H is dominating and> egoistic. Lagna with 33 points and LL well placed in navamsha allowed him to> pull on till this time. Karak for speech as well as lord of 2H of speech> mercury is also weak, debilitated and retrograde in 8H indicating harshness> of speech and indiscipline.> > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> > Similarly we can find indications for his suffering for any issue.> > But the real problem of this chart is that the pillars of sustenance, the> Vishnusthanas are empty. The person will not be able to sustain anything> which he'd receive by virtue of his trikonas or lakshmi/fortune. Not only> natal chart, even the important divisions, like D-9, D-3 and D-4 have empty> kendras or a single malefic there. We've discussed such charts earlier on> the list and they can be found in the archives.> > Hope this is useful> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear respected GK Goel ji many thanks pls take ur own time and no hurry frm our side i know that u will come out with best explanations rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear Nair Ji,> In your pev. mail , you have asked /raised some important> issues.> As I was busy in some other matters , I could not revert on these issues till > now. I shall be back soon.> Kind regards,> > G. K. Goel> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:53:31 +0530> Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a diffrnt forum rgrds sunil nair > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4 1925 2 pm trichy > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6, mercury 8th venus sun in 9th moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18 2 2005 children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one no issues all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner living with one daughter ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury neecha banga exactly moon and mars kenthra to jupiter giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good official worker also > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive wife not in good health lot of disease to him nerve trouble eye nose etc etc..three good brothers in full status died recently 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties also > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2 exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing manifested in his hors.> > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain if members have any points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation people> > > > with regards > > > > sairaman> > > > .> > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > hanskpvedic> > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > > > "u can quota my details"> > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On Behalf Of sujata das> > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > hanskpvedic> > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > u can quota my details> > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40. com> > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and Vishmotary> > > > Dasha for this I request > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your own cases> > > > or to your known confirmed bio data > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your> > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and want to> > > > have an answer to that.> > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if I am> > > > allowed or not to use> > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > ----------> > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > >

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Dear Sunil nair ji/Neelam ji and Sreenadh ji,//we hav so many knowledgeble ,blessed

exprnced ,senior ,inventive ,experts in our forum who always

participate in discussions and when their expertise is expected they r

simply doing lip service and seen No where ,//I have great respect /regard to you all.I am somewhat surprised to see the above from sunil ji!!!....All of you know the answer.If you dont my humble request is "just ask yourself"(just do it ;ha,ha,ha) and you will know it.I hope to get back soon with my bit on the said chart .....Love and regards,gopi. , "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Neelam Ji> > Thanks for ur valuable observations and reading on this chart .> > I think u almost said it --.> > > > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> > > I was waiting for other memebrs to participate ,we hav so many> knowledgeble ,blessed exprnced ,senior ,inventive ,experts in our forum> who always participate in discussions and when their expertise is> expected they r simply doing lip service and seen No where ,> > My questions to shri parasarji was my eagerness to know abt his method> of predictions ,i wanted to know which system he was using is it> suryasidhanthic or drik pakshiya one> > any way last day in some other grp some one was enguiring abt where he> can find the lineage of parasara rishi .> > the problem with shri sai raman ji is even tho he posts such charts as> far some events or clarifications is concerned he is never avlble > promptly .> > i will try to put my views after when every one has participated in> this tread and if my time permits .> > One thing i said to many in pvt and even in many grps there is some> Omens appearing during the time of birth of a person ( as it is Limited> to purticular place ) also can influence a chart which only old village> astrologers used to record it and use it .> > even Varaha Hora and kerala sastra s mentions abt it ,i dont know abt> parasara Hora as 100 s of Texts available and each claiming as original> Hora> > ULKO Urvi chalano -------dhoomakketu ---( means falling of meteors> ,earth quacks ,Dig dahanam ( all directions burning ),dhooma ketu , suns> disc has special appearance etc -----) also any bad Nimitta s )this is> discussed in Varaha hora.> > one funny thing i noted in this chart is if birth time is correct he> Born in mercury Hora and mercury 's day ( wednesday ) and mercury is> debilated in his chart Tho according to some defenition we can say it is> cancelled debilation> > I will try to write later and i invite all other members s to put> their opinions / reading abt the chart and strt disccussing .> > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Thanks for an interesting chart Sunil ji. I think he is unfortunate> and has> > to suffer his karma. The reasons presented by Parashara ji (member who> > posted in this thread, not our Rishi Parashara) do not justify the> kind of> > miseries this person is facing. There must be a set of peculiar> conditions> > working in a chart to take one towards such a miserable end.> >> > 5L of poorv punya is also the 8L of miseries in 5H indicating that he> must> > enjoy/suffer due to his previous karma. His 5H/Jupiter is perfect> example of> > bhav-bhavesh-karak (all eggs in one basket) badly afflicted by> malefics. Jup> > himself is weak and almost reaching its debilitation Rashi. Though as> karaka> > of children in own house did give him progeny (those who vote for> karko bhav> > nashaye can check this out) but an afflicted karak could not sustain> > happiness through children. Other significations of Jup also suffer,> such as> > no elder sibling, no wealth, etc.> >> > Regarding wife, 7H has no benefic aspect and 7L is Saturn is also the> 6L.> > Karak venus is combust in shatru sthan and debilitated and afflicted> in> > navamsh. LL/7L opposition is close mutual confrontation of Sun-Sat> involving> > Venus. A constant discord is clear in the chart.> >> > The native himself with an exalted lagna lord in 9H is dominating and> > egoistic. Lagna with 33 points and LL well placed in navamsha allowed> him to> > pull on till this time. Karak for speech as well as lord of 2H of> speech> > mercury is also weak, debilitated and retrograde in 8H indicating> harshness> > of speech and indiscipline.> >> > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> >> > Similarly we can find indications for his suffering for any issue.> >> > But the real problem of this chart is that the pillars of sustenance,> the> > Vishnusthanas are empty. The person will not be able to sustain> anything> > which he'd receive by virtue of his trikonas or lakshmi/fortune.> Not only> > natal chart, even the important divisions, like D-9, D-3 and D-4 have> empty> > kendras or a single malefic there. We've discussed such charts> earlier on> > the list and they can be found in the archives.> >> > Hope this is useful> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >>

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Dear Sunil Nair ji/Sairaman ji,On a cursery look at the chart i agree with Neelam ji on most of the things.Apart from those the following are my own observations.1.two exalted planets in mutual asp(natural enemies) will not give positive results.2.9L of bhagya and YK THOUGH IN 11TH is with 12L of loss in mutual asp with jup5/8L who is debilitated in 6th(health) in Bhava!!3.The 3/9 axis is interesting since 2exalt planets(enemies) in mutual asp in volving Ven the dispositor of Sat a friend! Ven is also 10L of karma which one have/had to go through.Unfortunately here Sat/ven comb dominate sun the L/L.The dispositor of sun/ven the YK is with 12L whose dispositor in turn is deb/Retro!!!....4.the 6H of Rog is in RK axis while the dispositor is in 10thH of karma from it.5.The2/11L(finance)is deb /Retro in 8H of miseries aswell. 6.Jup5L and also Karak for children is asp by 6/7L sat which is a maraka for both 5H and Lagna.7.All the natural benefics are week in shadbala8.The birth in the dasas of jup-ketu-Sat/mer speaks itself!!..9.Mo-ketu-jup operating till 2010 march is bad enough...10.Reg wife sat® exalted rules wife in 8th with deb® mer the less said the better!!...Somebody may always say it is a postmortem which is easy and i agree with it but say that to become a doctor one has to learn through postmortems.Love and regards,gopi. , Sunil Nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> Dear Members > >  Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a diffrnt forum > > rgrds sunil nair > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 wrote:> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4 1925  2 pm trichy > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6, mercury 8th  venus sun in 9th moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18 2 2005 children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one no issues all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them   job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner living with one daughter ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury neecha banga exactly moon and mars kenthra to jupiter giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good official worker also > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive wife not in good health lot of disease to him nerve trouble eye nose etc etc..three good brothers in  full status died recently 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties also > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2 exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing manifested in his hors.> > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain if members have any points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation people> > > > with regards > > > > sairaman> > > > .> > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > hanskpvedic> > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > >  > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic ] On Behalf Of sujata das> > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > hanskpvedic> > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > u can quota my details> > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40. com> > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and Vishmotary> > > > Dasha for this I request > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your own cases> > > > or to your known confirmed bio data > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your> > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and want to> > > > have an answer to that.> > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if I am> > > > allowed or not to use> > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > ----------> > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > >

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Dear Gopi Ji ha ha many thanks for including me too in the list of elevated men of astrology ( woman too or our ladies may get angry ) here i was not refering to u but was mentioning abt some time waisters who knows some dasa very well as it can unlock any chart but the poor part is they hav no time to attempt for real live cases but will talk and talk and talk endlessly .sorry in any case it hurt our esteemed memebrs like u .U can also see that none ( i know some ppl has time management problems and they r realy busy ) tried the chart u posted .Otherwise they r in every Known grps posting abt tall claims and advises and their acheivemnts .rgrds sunil nair , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Sunil nair ji/Neelam ji and Sreenadh ji,> //we hav so many knowledgeble ,blessed exprnced ,senior ,inventive> ,experts in our forum who always participate in discussions and when> their expertise is expected they r simply doing lip service and seen No> where ,//> I have great respect /regard to you all.I am somewhat surprised to see> the above from sunil ji!!!....All of you know the answer.If you dont my> humble request is "just ask yourself"(just do it ;ha,ha,ha) and you will> know it.I hope to get back soon with my bit on the said chart .....> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "Sunil"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Neelam Ji> >> > Thanks for ur valuable observations and reading on this chart .> >> > I think u almost said it --.> >> >> > > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> >> >> > I was waiting for other memebrs to participate ,we hav so many> > knowledgeble ,blessed exprnced ,senior ,inventive ,experts in our> forum> > who always participate in discussions and when their expertise is> > expected they r simply doing lip service and seen No where ,> >> > My questions to shri parasarji was my eagerness to know abt his method> > of predictions ,i wanted to know which system he was using is it> > suryasidhanthic or drik pakshiya one> >> > any way last day in some other grp some one was enguiring abt where> he> > can find the lineage of parasara rishi .> >> > the problem with shri sai raman ji is even tho he posts such charts as> > far some events or clarifications is concerned he is never avlble> > promptly .> >> > i will try to put my views after when every one has participated in> > this tread and if my time permits .> >> > One thing i said to many in pvt and even in many grps there is some> > Omens appearing during the time of birth of a person ( as it is> Limited> > to purticular place ) also can influence a chart which only old> village> > astrologers used to record it and use it .> >> > even Varaha Hora and kerala sastra s mentions abt it ,i dont know abt> > parasara Hora as 100 s of Texts available and each claiming as> original> > Hora> >> > ULKO Urvi chalano -------dhoomakketu ---( means falling of meteors> > ,earth quacks ,Dig dahanam ( all directions burning ),dhooma ketu ,> suns> > disc has special appearance etc -----) also any bad Nimitta s )this is> > discussed in Varaha hora.> >> > one funny thing i noted in this chart is if birth time is correct he> > Born in mercury Hora and mercury 's day ( wednesday ) and mercury is> > debilated in his chart Tho according to some defenition we can say it> is> > cancelled debilation> >> > I will try to write later and i invite all other members s to put> > their opinions / reading abt the chart and strt disccussing .> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Thanks for an interesting chart Sunil ji. I think he is unfortunate> > and has> > > to suffer his karma. The reasons presented by Parashara ji (member> who> > > posted in this thread, not our Rishi Parashara) do not justify the> > kind of> > > miseries this person is facing. There must be a set of peculiar> > conditions> > > working in a chart to take one towards such a miserable end.> > >> > > 5L of poorv punya is also the 8L of miseries in 5H indicating that> he> > must> > > enjoy/suffer due to his previous karma. His 5H/Jupiter is perfect> > example of> > > bhav-bhavesh-karak (all eggs in one basket) badly afflicted by> > malefics. Jup> > > himself is weak and almost reaching its debilitation Rashi. Though> as> > karaka> > > of children in own house did give him progeny (those who vote for> > karko bhav> > > nashaye can check this out) but an afflicted karak could not sustain> > > happiness through children. Other significations of Jup also suffer,> > such as> > > no elder sibling, no wealth, etc.> > >> > > Regarding wife, 7H has no benefic aspect and 7L is Saturn is also> the> > 6L.> > > Karak venus is combust in shatru sthan and debilitated and afflicted> > in> > > navamsh. LL/7L opposition is close mutual confrontation of Sun-Sat> > involving> > > Venus. A constant discord is clear in the chart.> > >> > > The native himself with an exalted lagna lord in 9H is dominating> and> > > egoistic. Lagna with 33 points and LL well placed in navamsha> allowed> > him to> > > pull on till this time. Karak for speech as well as lord of 2H of> > speech> > > mercury is also weak, debilitated and retrograde in 8H indicating> > harshness> > > of speech and indiscipline.> > >> > > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> > >> > > Similarly we can find indications for his suffering for any issue.> > >> > > But the real problem of this chart is that the pillars of> sustenance,> > the> > > Vishnusthanas are empty. The person will not be able to sustain> > anything> > > which he'd receive by virtue of his trikonas or lakshmi/fortune.> > Not only> > > natal chart, even the important divisions, like D-9, D-3 and D-4> have> > empty> > > kendras or a single malefic there. We've discussed such charts> > earlier on> > > the list and they can be found in the archives.> > >> > > Hope this is useful> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> >>

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Dear Sirs,Hare Rama Krsna,Natal Chart April 29, 1925Time: 14:00:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00" Trichinapalli, IndiaFew Observation :1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre are 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort and mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in 9th house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in life, bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other is due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.] 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always feels strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. : Saturn primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good for marriage happiness.4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is drained out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters & daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters coming from past birth.5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars, Moon : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter, therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness them.6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and neecha in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl. note Venus is avayogi planet also.7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn than Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury dasa came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > Dear parasara JI> > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most of> the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > some of ur reading baffles me> > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is case i> think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> navamsa> > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what is the> basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details provided> by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > sairaman Ji s father in law> > Natal Chart> > April 29, 1925> Time: 14:00:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> Trichinapalli, India> > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > Rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > , Parasara Hora Sastra> hparasara@ wrote:> >> > Hello> > �> > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out some> blemishes.> > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > �> > Dasa of Moon is running.> > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator of> Brothers.> > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga> with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is> also weak in Shadbala.> > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till 2012> Aug 21.> > �> > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also in> Rasi.> > �> > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered to be yoga> karakas.> > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in Shadbala> and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.> > �> > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > �> > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > Regards> > Parasara> > �> > �> >> >> > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors.> 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> >> >> > �> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Members> >> > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted in a> diffrnt forum> >> > rgrds sunil nair> >> > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> >> >> >> > �> >> > Dear members> >> > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4� > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> >> > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury 8th�> � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in 12th� > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> >> > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2> 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran> away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one> no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them� � �> job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> >> > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> >> > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury> neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to jupiter> giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> >> > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible> family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice person�> unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> official worker also> >> > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive> wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble eye> nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died recently> 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no properties> also> >> > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings and> unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> >> > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of hors.2> exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and> moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing> manifested in his hors.> >> > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> >> > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members have any> points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> >> > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> people> >> > with regards> >> > sairaman> >> > .> >> > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > hanskpvedic> > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> >> > �> > “u can quota my detailsâ€> >> > Please give me events dates of your life.> >> > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> >> > Thanks in advance.> >> > Inder Jit Sahni> >> > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @ .> com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > hanskpvedic> > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> >> > u can quota my details> >> > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> >> > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_> jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic %40.> com>> > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> >> > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and> Vishmotary> >> > Dasha for this I request> >> > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your own> cases> >> > or to your known confirmed bio data> >> > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your> >> > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and> want to> >> > have an answer to that.> >> > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission if> I am> >> > allowed or not to use> >> > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> >> > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> >> > With Best Wishes,> >> > Inder Jit Sahni> >> > ----------> >> > > >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> >> > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> 03/10/10 01:03:00> >> >

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Dear Vijay goel Ji Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the chart .Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts r deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested many thankswith warm rgrds sunil nair , "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Sirs,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > Natal Chart> > April 29, 1925> Time: 14:00:00> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> Trichinapalli, India> > Few Observation :> > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre are> 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort and> mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in 9th> house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in life,> bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his> chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other is> due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always feels> strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. : Saturn> primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in> life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good for> marriage happiness.> > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is drained> out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters & > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters coming> from past birth.> > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars, Moon> : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,> therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness them.> > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and neecha> in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and> Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl. note> Venus is avayogi planet also.> > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn than> Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury dasa> came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > > > > , "Sunil"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear parasara JI> >> > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most of> > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> >> > some of ur reading baffles me> >> > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is case i> > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> >> >> > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> > navamsa> >> > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what is> the> > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> >> > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> provided> > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> >> > sairaman Ji s father in law> >> > Natal Chart> >> > April 29, 1925> > Time: 14:00:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > Trichinapalli, India> >> > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> >> > Rgrds sunil nair> >> >> >> >> >> > , Parasara Hora Sastra> > hparasara@ wrote:> > >> > > Hello> > > �> > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out some> > blemishes.> > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > �> > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator of> > Brothers.> > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga> > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is> > also weak in Shadbala.> > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till 2012> > Aug 21.> > > �> > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also> in> > Rasi.> > > �> > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered to> be yoga> > karakas.> > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in Shadbala> > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.> > > �> > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > �> > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > Regards> > > Parasara> > > �> > > �> > >> > >> > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors.> > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > >> > >> > > �> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members> > >> > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted> in a> > diffrnt forum> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > �> > >> > > Dear members> > >> > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 4�> > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > >> > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> 8th�> > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> 12th�> > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > >> > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2> > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son ran> > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried one> > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�> � �> > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> > >> > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > >> > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury> > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to> jupiter> > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > >> > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible> > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> person�> > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > official worker also> > >> > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough abusive> > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble eye> > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died> recently> > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> properties> > also> > >> > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings> and> > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > >> > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> hors.2> > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and> > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing> > manifested in his hors.> > >> > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > >> > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members have> any> > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > >> > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> > people> > >> > > with regards> > >> > > sairaman> > >> > > .> > >> > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > hanskpvedic> > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > >> > > �> > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > >> > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > >> > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > >> > > Thanks in advance.> > >> > > Inder Jit Sahni> > >> > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> .> > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > hanskpvedic> > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > >> > > u can quota my details> > >> > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > >> > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in <inder_> > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> %40.> > com>> > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > >> > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and> > Vishmotary> > >> > > Dasha for this I request> > >> > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your> own> > cases> > >> > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > >> > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. /your> > >> > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and> > want to> > >> > > have an answer to that.> > >> > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission> if> > I am> > >> > > allowed or not to use> > >> > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > >> > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > >> > > With Best Wishes,> > >> > > Inder Jit Sahni> > >> > > ----------> > >> > > > > >> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > >> > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > >> > >

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Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji,

 

I have not participated for many reasons. I recently suffered from Chest

Pains, High BP, Heart palpitations and am now taking it easy and

presently resting. And spending more time in enjoyments and relaxations,

rather than excersising my mind in Chart Studies. That I am also doing

but only professional Orders most of the time, which is a necessity as

am under Legal Agreements and Contracts .

 

Normally when you present your views, due to affections for you, and

also due to value of the Traditional knowledge you hold, I normally do

not unnecessarily enter in the thread to present my views, but rather

try to savour what you have written. Also here I had nothing to

contribute. I really find most of your recent mails as Masterpieces,

written so well and full of astro knowledge content. I have yet to

finish reading all of them..

 

regards and warm wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Sunil "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay goel Ji

>

> Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the

> chart .

>

> Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this

> help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts

r

> deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested

>

> many thanks

>

> with warm rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> , " vijay.goel "

> goyalvj@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sirs,

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna,

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > April 29, 1925

> > Time: 14:00:00

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > Trichinapalli, India

> >

> > Few Observation :

> >

> > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre

> are

> > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort

> and

> > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.

> > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in

> 9th

> > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.

> > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in

life,

> > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his

> > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other

is

> > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]

> >

> > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always

> feels

> > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.

> >

> > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :

> Saturn

> > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.

> > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in

> > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good

> for

> > marriage happiness.

> >

> > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No

> > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is

drained

> > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters

&

> > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters

> coming

> > from past birth.

> >

> > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,

> Moon

> > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,

> > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.

> > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness

> them.

> >

> > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and

> neecha

> > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and

> > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.

> note

> > Venus is avayogi planet also.

> >

> > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn

> than

> > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury

dasa

> > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sunil "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear parasara JI

> > >

> > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .

> > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most

> of

> > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??

> > >

> > > some of ur reading baffles me

> > >

> > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is

case

> i

> > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and

> > > navamsa

> > >

> > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what

is

> > the

> > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??

> > >

> > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details

> > provided

> > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??

> > >

> > > sairaman Ji s father in law

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > April 29, 1925

> > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > Trichinapalli, India

> > >

> > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)

> > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)

> > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)

> > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)

> > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)

> > >

> > > Rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Parasara Hora

> Sastra

> > > hparasara@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello

> > > > �

> > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out

> some

> > > blemishes.

> > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in

> > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.

> > > > �

> > > > Dasa of Moon is running.

> > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.

> > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator

> of

> > > Brothers.

> > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari

yoga

> > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and

is

> > > also weak in Shadbala.

> > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till

> 2012

> > > Aug 21.

> > > > �

> > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and

also

> > in

> > > Rasi.

> > > > �

> > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered

to

> > be yoga

> > > karakas.

> > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in

> Shadbala

> > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this

lagna.

> > > > �

> > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.

> > > > �

> > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA

> > > > Regards

> > > > Parasara

> > > > �

> > > > �

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate

hors.

> > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > �

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members

> > > >

> > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji

posted

> > in a

> > > diffrnt forum

> > > >

> > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > �

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > >

> > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29

> 4�

> > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy

> > > >

> > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury

> > 8th�

> > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in

> > 12th�

> > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

> > > >

> > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2

> > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son

> ran

> > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried

> one

> > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�

> > � �

> > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one

> > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

> > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking

> > > >

> > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

> > > >

> > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house

mercury

> > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to

> > jupiter

> > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

> > > >

> > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope

horrible

> > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice

> > person�

> > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good

> > > official worker also

> > > >

> > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough

> abusive

> > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble

> eye

> > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died

> > recently

> > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no

> > properties

> > > also

> > > >

> > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.

sufferings

> > and

> > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

> > > >

> > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of

> > hors.2

> > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury

and

> > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing

> > > manifested in his hors.

> > > >

> > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc

etc

> > > >

> > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members

> have

> > any

> > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

> > > >

> > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation

> > > people

> > > >

> > > > with regards

> > > >

> > > > sairaman

> > > >

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM

> > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

> > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM

> > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> Progression:

> > > >

> > > > �

> > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€

> > > >

> > > > Please give me events dates of your life.

> > > >

> > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > >

> > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > >

> > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @

> > .

> > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das

> > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM

> > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> Progression:

> > > >

> > > > u can quota my details

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.

> in

> > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in

> <inder_

> > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >

> > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:

> > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic

> > %40.

> > > com>

> > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

> > > >

> > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits

and

> > > Vishmotary

> > > >

> > > > Dasha for this I request

> > > >

> > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for

your

> > own

> > > cases

> > > >

> > > > or to your known confirmed bio data

> > > >

> > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.

> /your

> > > >

> > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share

and

> > > want to

> > > >

> > > > have an answer to that.

> > > >

> > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your

permission

> > if

> > > I am

> > > >

> > > > allowed or not to use

> > > >

> > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.

> > > >

> > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.

> > > >

> > > > With Best Wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > >

> > > > ----------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > >

> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:

> > > 03/10/10 01:03:00

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear respected Bhaskar JI

 

sure ,I know abt ur health as we r in regular conct

 

so no worries or complaints frm my side as far a reading/write up is concerned .Also i know how u r other wise busy with jobs in hand with other web portals ,even i am not sure abt my presence in forum for how long if i go for traditional style of face to face reading sessions as i am presently in south i am sure

i will not get even one min of time for grp activities .still i am trying my level best

 

also due to personal reasons i am trvelling a lot .U r always welcome and now u need proper relaxation than this grp activities rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji,> > I have not participated for many reasons. I recently suffered from Chest> Pains, High BP, Heart palpitations and am now taking it easy and> presently resting. And spending more time in enjoyments and relaxations,> rather than excersising my mind in Chart Studies. That I am also doing> but only professional Orders most of the time, which is a necessity as> am under Legal Agreements and Contracts .> > Normally when you present your views, due to affections for you, and> also due to value of the Traditional knowledge you hold, I normally do> not unnecessarily enter in the thread to present my views, but rather> try to savour what you have written. Also here I had nothing to> contribute. I really find most of your recent mails as Masterpieces,> written so well and full of astro knowledge content. I have yet to> finish reading all of them..> > regards and warm wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , "Sunil"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay goel Ji> >> > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> > chart .> >> > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this> > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts> r> > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> >> > many thanks> >> > with warm rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > , "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > April 29, 1925> > > Time: 14:00:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > Trichinapalli, India> > >> > > Few Observation :> > >> > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre> > are> > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort> > and> > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in> > 9th> > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in> life,> > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his> > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other> is> > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> > >> > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> > feels> > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> > >> > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :> > Saturn> > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in> > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good> > for> > > marriage happiness.> > >> > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is> drained> > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters> & > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> > coming> > > from past birth.> > >> > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,> > Moon> > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,> > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> > them.> > >> > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> > neecha> > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and> > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> > note> > > Venus is avayogi planet also.> > >> > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn> > than> > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury> dasa> > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sunil"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear parasara JI> > > >> > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most> > of> > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > > >> > > > some of ur reading baffles me> > > >> > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is> case> > i> > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > > >> > > >> > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> > > > navamsa> > > >> > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what> is> > > the> > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > > >> > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > > provided> > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > > >> > > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 29, 1925> > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > >> > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > > >> > > > Rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , Parasara Hora> > Sastra> > > > hparasara@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello> > > > > �> > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> > some> > > > blemishes.> > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > > �> > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator> > of> > > > Brothers.> > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari> yoga> > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and> is> > > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till> > 2012> > > > Aug 21.> > > > > �> > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and> also> > > in> > > > Rasi.> > > > > �> > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered> to> > > be yoga> > > > karakas.> > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> > Shadbala> > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this> lagna.> > > > > �> > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > > �> > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > > Regards> > > > > Parasara> > > > > �> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate> hors.> > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members> > > > >> > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji> posted> > > in a> > > > diffrnt forum> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > > > >> > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> > 4�> > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > > >> > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > > 8th�> > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > > 12th�> > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > >> > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2> > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son> > ran> > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried> > one> > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�> > > � �> > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> > > > >> > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > >> > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house> mercury> > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to> > > jupiter> > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > > >> > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope> horrible> > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > > person�> > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > > > official worker also> > > > >> > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> > abusive> > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble> > eye> > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died> > > recently> > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > > properties> > > > also> > > > >> > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.> sufferings> > > and> > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > > >> > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > > hors.2> > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury> and> > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing> > > > manifested in his hors.> > > > >> > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc> etc> > > > >> > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members> > have> > > any> > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > > >> > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> > > > people> > > > >> > > > > with regards> > > > >> > > > > sairaman> > > > >> > > > > .> > > > >> > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > Progression:> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > > > >> > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > >> > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > >> > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > > .> > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > Progression:> > > > >> > > > > u can quota my details> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.> > in> > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > <inder_> > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > > %40.> > > > com>> > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > >> > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits> and> > > > Vishmotary> > > > >> > > > > Dasha for this I request> > > > >> > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for> your> > > own> > > > cases> > > > >> > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > > >> > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> > /your> > > > >> > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share> and> > > > want to> > > > >> > > > > have an answer to that.> > > > >> > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your> permission> > > if> > > > I am> > > > >> > > > > allowed or not to use> > > > >> > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > >> > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > >> > > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > >> > > > > ----------> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > >> > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > > >> > > > >

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Respected Sunil Nair Ji,Hare Rama Krsna,I have also learnt from this chart.Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long time and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect. He must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is aspecting Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in general sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and marriage.'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse than saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life. This is the net result of this analysis.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> Dear Vijay goel Ji> > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> chart .> > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this> help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts r> deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> > many thanks> > with warm rgrds sunil nair> > > , "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sirs,> >> > Hare Rama Krsna,> >> > Natal Chart> >> > April 29, 1925> > Time: 14:00:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > Trichinapalli, India> >> > Few Observation :> >> > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre> are> > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort> and> > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in> 9th> > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in life,> > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his> > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other is> > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> >> > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> feels> > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> >> > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. : > Saturn> > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in> > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good> for> > marriage happiness.> >> > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is drained> > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters & > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> coming> > from past birth.> >> > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars, > Moon> > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,> > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> them.> >> > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> neecha> > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and> > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> note> > Venus is avayogi planet also.> >> > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn> than> > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury dasa> > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Sunil"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear parasara JI> > >> > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most> of> > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > >> > > some of ur reading baffles me> > >> > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is case> i> > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > >> > >> > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> > > navamsa> > >> > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what is> > the> > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > >> > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > provided> > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > >> > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > April 29, 1925> > > Time: 14:00:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > Trichinapalli, India> > >> > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > >> > > Rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , Parasara Hora> Sastra> > > hparasara@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello> > > > �> > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> some> > > blemishes.> > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > �> > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator> of> > > Brothers.> > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga> > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is> > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till> 2012> > > Aug 21.> > > > �> > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also> > in> > > Rasi.> > > > �> > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered to> > be yoga> > > karakas.> > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> Shadbala> > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.> > > > �> > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > �> > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > Regards> > > > Parasara> > > > �> > > > �> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors.> > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > �> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Members> > > >> > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted> > in a> > > diffrnt forum> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > �> > > >> > > > Dear members> > > >> > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> 4�> > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > >> > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > 8th�> > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > 12th�> > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > >> > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2> > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son> ran> > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried> one> > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�> > � �> > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> > > >> > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > >> > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury> > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to> > jupiter> > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > >> > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible> > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > person�> > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > > official worker also> > > >> > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> abusive> > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble> eye> > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died> > recently> > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > properties> > > also> > > >> > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings> > and> > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > >> > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > hors.2> > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and> > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing> > > manifested in his hors.> > > >> > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > > >> > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members> have> > any> > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > >> > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> > > people> > > >> > > > with regards> > > >> > > > sairaman> > > >> > > > .> > > >> > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > hanskpvedic> > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> Progression:> > > >> > > > �> > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > > >> > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > >> > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > >> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > >> > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > .> > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > hanskpvedic> > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> Progression:> > > >> > > > u can quota my details> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.> in> > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> <inder_> > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > %40.> > > com>> > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > >> > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and> > > Vishmotary> > > >> > > > Dasha for this I request> > > >> > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your> > own> > > cases> > > >> > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > >> > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> /your> > > >> > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and> > > want to> > > >> > > > have an answer to that.> > > >> > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission> > if> > > I am> > > >> > > > allowed or not to use> > > >> > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > >> > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > >> > > > With Best Wishes,> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > >> > > > ----------> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > >> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > >> > > >

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Respected Bhaskerji,

 

I will pray to Maa Jagdamba for your fast recovery.

 

Best Wishes,

Keep enjoying!

 

Thankyou

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji,

>

> I have not participated for many reasons. I recently suffered from Chest

> Pains, High BP, Heart palpitations and am now taking it easy and

> presently resting. And spending more time in enjoyments and relaxations,

> rather than excersising my mind in Chart Studies. That I am also doing

> but only professional Orders most of the time, which is a necessity as

> am under Legal Agreements and Contracts .

>

> Normally when you present your views, due to affections for you, and

> also due to value of the Traditional knowledge you hold, I normally do

> not unnecessarily enter in the thread to present my views, but rather

> try to savour what you have written. Also here I had nothing to

> contribute. I really find most of your recent mails as Masterpieces,

> written so well and full of astro knowledge content. I have yet to

> finish reading all of them..

>

> regards and warm wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " Sunil "

> <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay goel Ji

> >

> > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the

> > chart .

> >

> > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this

> > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts

> r

> > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested

> >

> > many thanks

> >

> > with warm rgrds sunil nair

> >

> >

> > , " vijay.goel "

> > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sirs,

> > >

> > > Hare Rama Krsna,

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > April 29, 1925

> > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > Trichinapalli, India

> > >

> > > Few Observation :

> > >

> > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre

> > are

> > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort

> > and

> > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.

> > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in

> > 9th

> > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.

> > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in

> life,

> > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his

> > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other

> is

> > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]

> > >

> > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always

> > feels

> > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.

> > >

> > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :

> > Saturn

> > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.

> > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in

> > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good

> > for

> > > marriage happiness.

> > >

> > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No

> > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is

> drained

> > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters

> &

> > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters

> > coming

> > > from past birth.

> > >

> > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,

> > Moon

> > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,

> > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.

> > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness

> > them.

> > >

> > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and

> > neecha

> > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and

> > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.

> > note

> > > Venus is avayogi planet also.

> > >

> > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn

> > than

> > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury

> dasa

> > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Sunil "

> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear parasara JI

> > > >

> > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .

> > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most

> > of

> > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??

> > > >

> > > > some of ur reading baffles me

> > > >

> > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is

> case

> > i

> > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and

> > > > navamsa

> > > >

> > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what

> is

> > > the

> > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??

> > > >

> > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details

> > > provided

> > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??

> > > >

> > > > sairaman Ji s father in law

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > >

> > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)

> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)

> > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)

> > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)

> > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)

> > > >

> > > > Rgrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Parasara Hora

> > Sastra

> > > > hparasara@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello

> > > > > �

> > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out

> > some

> > > > blemishes.

> > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in

> > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.

> > > > > �

> > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.

> > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.

> > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator

> > of

> > > > Brothers.

> > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari

> yoga

> > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and

> is

> > > > also weak in Shadbala.

> > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till

> > 2012

> > > > Aug 21.

> > > > > �

> > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and

> also

> > > in

> > > > Rasi.

> > > > > �

> > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered

> to

> > > be yoga

> > > > karakas.

> > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in

> > Shadbala

> > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this

> lagna.

> > > > > �

> > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.

> > > > > �

> > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Parasara

> > > > > �

> > > > > �

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate

> hors.

> > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > �

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members

> > > > >

> > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji

> posted

> > > in a

> > > > diffrnt forum

> > > > >

> > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > �

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members

> > > > >

> > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29

> > 4�

> > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy

> > > > >

> > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury

> > > 8th�

> > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in

> > > 12th�

> > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

> > > > >

> > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2

> > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son

> > ran

> > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried

> > one

> > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�

> > > � �

> > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one

> > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

> > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking

> > > > >

> > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

> > > > >

> > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house

> mercury

> > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to

> > > jupiter

> > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

> > > > >

> > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope

> horrible

> > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice

> > > person�

> > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good

> > > > official worker also

> > > > >

> > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough

> > abusive

> > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble

> > eye

> > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died

> > > recently

> > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no

> > > properties

> > > > also

> > > > >

> > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.

> sufferings

> > > and

> > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

> > > > >

> > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of

> > > hors.2

> > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury

> and

> > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing

> > > > manifested in his hors.

> > > > >

> > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc

> etc

> > > > >

> > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members

> > have

> > > any

> > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

> > > > >

> > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation

> > > > people

> > > > >

> > > > > with regards

> > > > >

> > > > > sairaman

> > > > >

> > > > > .

> > > > >

> > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM

> > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

> > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM

> > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > Progression:

> > > > >

> > > > > �

> > > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€

> > > > >

> > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > >

> > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @

> > > .

> > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das

> > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM

> > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > Progression:

> > > > >

> > > > > u can quota my details

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.

> > in

> > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in

> > <inder_

> > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >

> > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:

> > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic

> > > %40.

> > > > com>

> > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits

> and

> > > > Vishmotary

> > > > >

> > > > > Dasha for this I request

> > > > >

> > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for

> your

> > > own

> > > > cases

> > > > >

> > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data

> > > > >

> > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.

> > /your

> > > > >

> > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share

> and

> > > > want to

> > > > >

> > > > > have an answer to that.

> > > > >

> > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your

> permission

> > > if

> > > > I am

> > > > >

> > > > > allowed or not to use

> > > > >

> > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.

> > > > >

> > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > With Best Wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:

> > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay Goel ji,

 

Thank You. Wanted to appreciate that though I have many times written

harshly to you, but you have always borne goodwill for me. These are the

Qualities of a real Brahmin.

 

Thank You so much.

 

best wishes always,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> I will pray to Maa Jagdamba for your fast recovery.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Keep enjoying!

>

> Thankyou

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji,

> >

> > I have not participated for many reasons. I recently suffered from

Chest

> > Pains, High BP, Heart palpitations and am now taking it easy and

> > presently resting. And spending more time in enjoyments and

relaxations,

> > rather than excersising my mind in Chart Studies. That I am also

doing

> > but only professional Orders most of the time, which is a necessity

as

> > am under Legal Agreements and Contracts .

> >

> > Normally when you present your views, due to affections for you, and

> > also due to value of the Traditional knowledge you hold, I normally

do

> > not unnecessarily enter in the thread to present my views, but

rather

> > try to savour what you have written. Also here I had nothing to

> > contribute. I really find most of your recent mails as Masterpieces,

> > written so well and full of astro knowledge content. I have yet to

> > finish reading all of them..

> >

> > regards and warm wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sunil "

> > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay goel Ji

> > >

> > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the

> > > chart .

> > >

> > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but

this

> > > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some

charts

> > r

> > > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested

> > >

> > > many thanks

> > >

> > > with warm rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > >

> > > > Few Observation :

> > > >

> > > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty

kendre

> > > are

> > > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own

effort

> > > and

> > > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.

> > > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9,

is in

> > > 9th

> > > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from

5H.

> > > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in

> > life,

> > > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in

his

> > > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to

other

> > is

> > > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]

> > > >

> > > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person

always

> > > feels

> > > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :

> > > Saturn

> > > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.

> > > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant

struggle in

> > > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not

good

> > > for

> > > > marriage happiness.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No

> > > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is

> > drained

> > > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from

sisters

> > &

> > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters &

daughters

> > > coming

> > > > from past birth.

> > > >

> > > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn,

Mars,

> > > Moon

> > > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of

Jupiter,

> > > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.

> > > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no

happiness

> > > them.

> > > >

> > > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and

> > > neecha

> > > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada

and

> > > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem.

Pl.

> > > note

> > > > Venus is avayogi planet also.

> > > >

> > > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by

Saturn

> > > than

> > > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and

mercury

> > dasa

> > > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Sunil "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear parasara JI

> > > > >

> > > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .

> > > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his

most

> > > of

> > > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??

> > > > >

> > > > > some of ur reading baffles me

> > > > >

> > > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is

> > case

> > > i

> > > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi

and

> > > > > navamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me

what

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??

> > > > >

> > > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details

> > > > provided

> > > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??

> > > > >

> > > > > sairaman Ji s father in law

> > > > >

> > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > >

> > > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > > >

> > > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)

> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)

> > > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)

> > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)

> > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Parasara Hora

> > > Sastra

> > > > > hparasara@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find

out

> > > some

> > > > > blemishes.

> > > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in

> > > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.

> > > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic

houses.

> > > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural

significator

> > > of

> > > > > Brothers.

> > > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja

Kesari

> > yoga

> > > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn

and

> > is

> > > > > also weak in Shadbala.

> > > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is

till

> > > 2012

> > > > > Aug 21.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa

and

> > also

> > > > in

> > > > > Rasi.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are �

considered

> > to

> > > > be yoga

> > > > > karakas.

> > > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in

> > > Shadbala

> > > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this

> > lagna.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Parasara

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > �

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate

> > hors.

> > > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > �

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > >

> > > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji

> > posted

> > > > in a

> > > > > diffrnt forum

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 >

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > �

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29

> > > 4�

> > > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,�

mercury

> > > > 8th�

> > > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in

> > > > 12th�

> > > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

> > > > > >

> > > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack

18� 2

> > > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed

son

> > > ran

> > > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one

unmarried

> > > one

> > > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of

them�

> > > > � �

> > > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with

one

> > > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

> > > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not

talking

> > > > > >

> > > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house

> > mercury

> > > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra

to

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope

> > horrible

> > > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice

> > > > person�

> > > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family

good

> > > > > official worker also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough

> > > abusive

> > > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve

trouble

> > > eye

> > > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status

died

> > > > recently

> > > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no

> > > > properties

> > > > > also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.

> > sufferings

> > > > and

> > > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

> > > > > >

> > > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement

of

> > > > hors.2

> > > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga

mercury

> > and

> > > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing

nothing

> > > > > manifested in his hors.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing

etc

> > etc

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if

members

> > > have

> > > > any

> > > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old

generation

> > > > > people

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sairaman

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM

> > > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

> > > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM

> > > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > Progression:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you

wish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @

> > > > .

> > > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das

> > > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM

> > > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > Progression:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > u can quota my details

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@

.co.

> > > in

> > > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in

> > > <inder_

> > > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >

> > > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

Progression:

> > > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic

> > > > %40.

> > > > > com>

> > > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the

transits

> > and

> > > > > Vishmotary

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dasha for this I request

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data

for

> > your

> > > > own

> > > > > cases

> > > > > >

> > > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage

etc.

> > > /your

> > > > > >

> > > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to

share

> > and

> > > > > want to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > have an answer to that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your

> > permission

> > > > if

> > > > > I am

> > > > > >

> > > > > > allowed or not to use

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your

reference.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth

chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With Best Wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sir pls see jupiter reached danus rasi after crossing malefic saturn and approaching kethu another malefic and to that 8th is another malefic

 

as you have rightly said for leo lagna jupiter is both 8th and 5th lord and for cancer lagna 5th house is kalapurushas 8th house and jupiter is 12th lord of kalapurusha 8th of 5th house kalapuruasha the leo rasi

 

thanks with regards

 

sairaman

 

 

 

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Mon, 15 March, 2010 7:40:19 PM Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

Respected Sunil Nair Ji,Hare Rama Krsna,I have also learnt from this chart.Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long time and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect. He must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is aspecting Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as

weakness in general sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and marriage.'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse than saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life. This is the net result of this analysis.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vijay goel Ji> > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> chart .> > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this> help us to see so many

theories working in deep analysis .Some charts r> deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> > many thanks> > with warm rgrds sunil nair> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sirs,> >> > Hare Rama Krsna,> >> > Natal Chart> >> > April 29, 1925> > Time: 14:00:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > Trichinapalli, India> >> > Few Observation :> >> > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre> are> > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort> and> > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > In this

chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in> 9th> > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in life,> > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his> > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other is> > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> >> > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> feels> > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> >> > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. : > Saturn> > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in> > life. No happiness from younger siblings.

Even 7L in 3H is not good> for> > marriage happiness.> >> > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is drained> > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters & > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> coming> > from past birth.> >> > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars, > Moon> > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,> > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> them.> >> > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> neecha> > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed

true happiness. Arudha pada and> > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> note> > Venus is avayogi planet also.> >> > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn> than> > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury dasa> > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunil"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear parasara JI> > >> > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > But i am still worried abt why he got

a nagging wife ,why his most> of> > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > >> > > some of ur reading baffles me> > >> > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is case> i> > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > >> > >> > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> > > navamsa> > >> > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what is> > the> > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > >> > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > provided> > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > >> > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > >> > >

Natal Chart> > >> > > April 29, 1925> > > Time: 14:00:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > Trichinapalli, India> > >> > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > >> > > Rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Parasara Hora> Sastra> > > hparasara@

wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello> > > > �> > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> some> > > blemishes.> > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > �> > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator> of> > > Brothers.> > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga> > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is> > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is

till> 2012> > > Aug 21.> > > > �> > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also> > in> > > Rasi.> > > > �> > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered to> > be yoga> > > karakas.> > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> Shadbala> > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.> > > > �> > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > �> > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > Regards> > > > Parasara> > > > �> > > > �> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors.> > > 14thmarch10- sairaman ji> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > �> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Members> > > >> > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted> > in a> > > diffrnt forum> > > >> > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > �> > > >> > > > Dear members> > > >> > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> 4�> > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > >> > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > 8th�> > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > 12th�> > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > >> > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2> > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son> ran> > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried> one> > > no issues� all brothers

sisters died nearly 7 of them�> > � �> > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> > > >> > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > >> > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury> > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to> > jupiter> > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > >> > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible> > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > person�> > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in

family good> > > official worker also> > > >> > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> abusive> > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble> eye> > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died> > recently> > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > properties> > > also> > > >> > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings> > and> > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > >> > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > hors.2> > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and> > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a

good yoga nothing nothing> > > manifested in his hors.> > > >> > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > > >> > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members> have> > any> > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > >> > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> > > people> > > >> > > > with regards> > > >> > > > sairaman> > > >> > > > .> > > >> > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > >

Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > hanskpvedic> > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> Progression:> > > >> > > > �> > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > > >> > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > >> > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > >> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > >> > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > .> > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > To:

hanskpvedic> > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> Progression:> > > >> > > > u can quota my details> > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.> in> > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> <inder_> > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > %40.> > > com>> > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > >> > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the

transits and> > > Vishmotary> > > >> > > > Dasha for this I request> > > >> > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your> > own> > > cases> > > >> > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > >> > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> /your> > > >> > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and> > > want to> > > >> > > > have an answer to that.> > > >> > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission> > if> > > I am> > > >> > > > allowed or not to use> > > >> > > > it in future research

paper without mentioning your reference.> > > >> > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > >> > > > With Best Wishes,> > > >> > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > >> > > > ----------> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > >> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > >> > > >

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Dear Sairamanji,Hare Rama Krsna,//pls see jupiter reached danus rasi after crossing malefic saturn and approaching kethu another malefic and to that 8th is another malefic//I think you have very good catch over Nadi principles and Nadi Transits, what do your infer from "jupiter reached danus rasi after crossing malefic saturn " , two rasi before. ??We can analyse it on the another angle, Nodal axis (rahu\ketu) after Jupiter can bring problems related to progeny, in second and eighth year age of child. //as you have rightly said for leo lagna jupiter is both 8th and 5th lord and for cancer lagna 5th house is kalapurushas 8th house and jupiter is 12th lord of kalapurusha 8th of 5th house kalapuruasha the leo rasi//Nice ! Therefore JUPITER brings past rins and debts for both Leo & Cancer Lagna.Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:>> Dear Sir pls see jupiter reached danus rasi after crossing malefic saturn and approaching kethu another malefic and to that 8th is another malefic> > as you have rightly said for leo lagna jupiter is both 8th and 5th lord and for cancer lagna 5th house is kalapurushas 8th house and jupiter is 12th lord of kalapurusha  8th of 5th house kalapuruasha the leo rasi> > thanks with regards > > sairaman> > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj > Mon, 15 March, 2010 7:40:19 PM> Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> >  > Respected Sunil Nair Ji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > I have also learnt from this chart.> > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long time and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect. He must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is aspecting Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...> > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in general sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.> > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and marriage.> 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse than saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life.This is the net result of this analysis.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay goel Ji> > > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> > chart .> > > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this> > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts r> > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> > > > many thanks> > > > with warm rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > April 29, 1925> > > Time: 14:00:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > Trichinapalli, India> > >> > > Few Observation :> > >> > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre> > are> > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort> > and> > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in> > 9th> > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in life,> > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his> > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other is> > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> > >> > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> > feels> > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> > >> > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. : > > Saturn> > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in> > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good> > for> > > marriage happiness.> > >> > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is drained> > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters & > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> > coming> > > from past birth.> > >> > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars, > > Moon> > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of Jupiter,> > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> > them.> > >> > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> > neecha> > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada and> > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> > note> > > Venus is avayogi planet also.> > >> > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn> > than> > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury dasa> > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sunil"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear parasara JI> > > >> > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most> > of> > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > > >> > > > some of ur reading baffles me> > > >> > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is case> > i> > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > > >> > > >> > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> > > > navamsa> > > >> > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what is> > > the> > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > > >> > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > > provided> > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > > >> > > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 29, 1925> > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > >> > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > > >> > > > Rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Parasara Hora> > Sastra> > > > hparasara@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello> > > > > �> > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> > some> > > > blemishes.> > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > > �> > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator> > of> > > > Brothers.> > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari yoga> > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and is> > > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till> > 2012> > > > Aug 21.> > > > > �> > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and also> > > in> > > > Rasi.> > > > > �> > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered to> > > be yoga> > > > karakas.> > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> > Shadbala> > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this lagna.> > > > > �> > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > > �> > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > > Regards> > > > > Parasara> > > > > �> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors.> > > > 14thmarch10- sairaman ji> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members> > > > >> > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji posted> > > in a> > > > diffrnt forum> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > > > >> > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> > 4�> > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > > >> > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > > 8th�> > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > > 12th�> > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > >> > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� 2> > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son> > ran> > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried> > one> > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�> > > � �> > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> > > > >> > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > >> > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house mercury> > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to> > > jupiter> > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > > >> > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope horrible> > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > > person�> > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > > > official worker also> > > > >> > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> > abusive> > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble> > eye> > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died> > > recently> > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > > properties> > > > also> > > > >> > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. sufferings> > > and> > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > > >> > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > > hors.2> > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury and> > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing> > > > manifested in his hors.> > > > >> > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc etc> > > > >> > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members> > have> > > any> > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > > >> > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> > > > people> > > > >> > > > > with regards> > > > >> > > > > sairaman> > > > >> > > > > .> > > > >> > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > Progression:> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > > > >> > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > >> > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > >> > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > > .> > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > Progression:> > > > >> > > > > u can quota my details> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.> > in> > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > <inder_> > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > > %40.> > > > com>> > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > >> > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits and> > > > Vishmotary> > > > >> > > > > Dasha for this I request> > > > >> > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for your> > > own> > > > cases> > > > >> > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > > >> > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> > /your> > > > >> > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share and> > > > want to> > > > >> > > > > have an answer to that.> > > > >> > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your permission> > > if> > > > I am> > > > >> > > > > allowed or not to use> > > > >> > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > >> > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > >> > > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > >> > > > > ----------> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > >> > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > > >> > > > >

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Dear Sunil Nair ji,I know that you are not refering to me.That's why i said in my previous post that i like your aproach as you are IMPERSONAL.I was only talking IN GENERAL!!It did not hurt me at all and you are not capable of hurting.It is not ur fort and there are others 4that(as you also know).// U can also see that none ( i know some ppl has time management problems> and they r realy busy ) tried the chart u posted .Otherwise they r in> every Known grps posting abt tall claims and advises and their> acheivemnts .//Yes,i know and understand it but also know they dont want(unfortunately)!!..I also apreciate you to mention my post!!....yes i know these guy(s).They even want me to analyse their charts( privately!!!).......Love and regards,gopi. , "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > Dear Gopi Ji> > ha ha> > many thanks for including me too in the list of elevated men of> astrology ( woman too or our ladies may get angry ) [)]> > here i was not refering to u but was mentioning abt some time waisters> who knows some dasa very well as it can unlock any chart but the poor> part is they hav no time to attempt for real live cases but will talk> and talk and talk endlessly .> > sorry in any case it hurt our esteemed memebrs like u .> > U can also see that none ( i know some ppl has time management problems> and they r realy busy ) tried the chart u posted .Otherwise they r in> every Known grps posting abt tall claims and advises and their> acheivemnts .> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil nair ji/Neelam ji and Sreenadh ji,> > //we hav so many knowledgeble ,blessed exprnced ,senior ,inventive> > ,experts in our forum who always participate in discussions and when> > their expertise is expected they r simply doing lip service and seen> No> > where ,//> > I have great respect /regard to you all.I am somewhat surprised to see> > the above from sunil ji!!!....All of you know the answer.If you dont> my> > humble request is "just ask yourself"(just do it ;ha,ha,ha) and you> will> > know it.I hope to get back soon with my bit on the said chart .....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "Sunil"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Neelam Ji> > >> > > Thanks for ur valuable observations and reading on this chart .> > >> > > I think u almost said it --.> > >> > >> > > > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> > >> > >> > > I was waiting for other memebrs to participate ,we hav so many> > > knowledgeble ,blessed exprnced ,senior ,inventive ,experts in our> > forum> > > who always participate in discussions and when their expertise is> > > expected they r simply doing lip service and seen No where ,> > >> > > My questions to shri parasarji was my eagerness to know abt his> method> > > of predictions ,i wanted to know which system he was using is it> > > suryasidhanthic or drik pakshiya one> > >> > > any way last day in some other grp some one was enguiring abt where> > he> > > can find the lineage of parasara rishi .> > >> > > the problem with shri sai raman ji is even tho he posts such charts> as> > > far some events or clarifications is concerned he is never avlble> > > promptly .> > >> > > i will try to put my views after when every one has participated in> > > this tread and if my time permits .> > >> > > One thing i said to many in pvt and even in many grps there is some> > > Omens appearing during the time of birth of a person ( as it is> > Limited> > > to purticular place ) also can influence a chart which only old> > village> > > astrologers used to record it and use it .> > >> > > even Varaha Hora and kerala sastra s mentions abt it ,i dont know> abt> > > parasara Hora as 100 s of Texts available and each claiming as> > original> > > Hora> > >> > > ULKO Urvi chalano -------dhoomakketu ---( means falling of meteors> > > ,earth quacks ,Dig dahanam ( all directions burning ),dhooma ketu ,> > suns> > > disc has special appearance etc -----) also any bad Nimitta s )this> is> > > discussed in Varaha hora.> > >> > > one funny thing i noted in this chart is if birth time is correct> he> > > Born in mercury Hora and mercury 's day ( wednesday ) and mercury is> > > debilated in his chart Tho according to some defenition we can say> it> > is> > > cancelled debilation> > >> > > I will try to write later and i invite all other members s to put> > > their opinions / reading abt the chart and strt disccussing .> > >> > > rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , neelam gupta> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Thanks for an interesting chart Sunil ji. I think he is> unfortunate> > > and has> > > > to suffer his karma. The reasons presented by Parashara ji (member> > who> > > > posted in this thread, not our Rishi Parashara) do not justify the> > > kind of> > > > miseries this person is facing. There must be a set of peculiar> > > conditions> > > > working in a chart to take one towards such a miserable end.> > > >> > > > 5L of poorv punya is also the 8L of miseries in 5H indicating that> > he> > > must> > > > enjoy/suffer due to his previous karma. His 5H/Jupiter is perfect> > > example of> > > > bhav-bhavesh-karak (all eggs in one basket) badly afflicted by> > > malefics. Jup> > > > himself is weak and almost reaching its debilitation Rashi. Though> > as> > > karaka> > > > of children in own house did give him progeny (those who vote for> > > karko bhav> > > > nashaye can check this out) but an afflicted karak could not> sustain> > > > happiness through children. Other significations of Jup also> suffer,> > > such as> > > > no elder sibling, no wealth, etc.> > > >> > > > Regarding wife, 7H has no benefic aspect and 7L is Saturn is also> > the> > > 6L.> > > > Karak venus is combust in shatru sthan and debilitated and> afflicted> > > in> > > > navamsh. LL/7L opposition is close mutual confrontation of Sun-Sat> > > involving> > > > Venus. A constant discord is clear in the chart.> > > >> > > > The native himself with an exalted lagna lord in 9H is dominating> > and> > > > egoistic. Lagna with 33 points and LL well placed in navamsha> > allowed> > > him to> > > > pull on till this time. Karak for speech as well as lord of 2H of> > > speech> > > > mercury is also weak, debilitated and retrograde in 8H indicating> > > harshness> > > > of speech and indiscipline.> > > >> > > > All benefics, Ju, Me, Ven are weak and malefics are strong.> > > >> > > > Similarly we can find indications for his suffering for any issue.> > > >> > > > But the real problem of this chart is that the pillars of> > sustenance,> > > the> > > > Vishnusthanas are empty. The person will not be able to sustain> > > anything> > > > which he'd receive by virtue of his trikonas or lakshmi/fortune.> > > Not only> > > > natal chart, even the important divisions, like D-9, D-3 and D-4> > have> > > empty> > > > kendras or a single malefic there. We've discussed such charts> > > earlier on> > > > the list and they can be found in the archives.> > > >> > > > Hope this is useful> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > >> >>

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dear vijay Goel Ji sorry for replying late i do blv planets in weak avasta s ,unless it is arohi position ( may b it is here we diffrs ) to bhava madhya -but useful only during dasa at proper time when we analyse otherwise here u can see jupiter is moving to next sign which of debilation and ketu is sitting there and doubly afflicted tho mars is 9th L ,the agnimaruta effect is falling on 5th House .also 12th house has rahu and gulika making drained of all saving and investmnts ppl with bad 12th house has problems to children too esp when the dasa of planets connected with it or every dasa change The dasa of 12th L is going on ( who is having this dosha )also it is repeating frm bhava lagana frm 5th house and karaka Lagna of children in 8th house of mishapsagain let me tell u one thing his son who is having a Govtmnt job is missing and i think he lost his job rgrds sunil nair , "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Respected Sunil Nair Ji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > I have also learnt from this chart.> > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long time> and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect. He> must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is aspecting> Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...> > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in general> sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or> baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta> then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.> > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and> marriage.> 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse than> saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a> good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic> vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life. This> is the net result of this analysis.> > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > , "Sunil"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay goel Ji> >> > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> > chart .> >> > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but this> > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some charts> r> > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> >> > many thanks> >> > with warm rgrds sunil nair> >> >> > , "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs,> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > >> > > Natal Chart> > >> > > April 29, 1925> > > Time: 14:00:00> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > Trichinapalli, India> > >> > > Few Observation :> > >> > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty kendre> > are> > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own effort> > and> > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is in> > 9th> > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in> life,> > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in his> > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other> is> > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> > >> > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> > feels> > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> > >> > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :> > Saturn> > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle in> > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not good> > for> > > marriage happiness.> > >> > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is> drained> > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from sisters> & > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> > coming> > > from past birth.> > >> > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,> > Moon> > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of> Jupiter,> > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> > them.> > >> > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> > neecha> > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada> and> > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> > note> > > Venus is avayogi planet also.> > >> > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by Saturn> > than> > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury> dasa> > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sunil"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear parasara JI> > > >> > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his most> > of> > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > > >> > > > some of ur reading baffles me> > > >> > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is> case> > i> > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > > >> > > >> > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi and> > > > navamsa> > > >> > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me what> is> > > the> > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > > >> > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > > provided> > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > > >> > > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 29, 1925> > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > >> > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > > >> > > > Rgrds sunil nair> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , Parasara Hora> > Sastra> > > > hparasara@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hello> > > > > �> > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> > some> > > > blemishes.> > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > > �> > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural significator> > of> > > > Brothers.> > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari> yoga> > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn and> is> > > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is till> > 2012> > > > Aug 21.> > > > > �> > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and> also> > > in> > > > Rasi.> > > > > �> > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � considered> to> > > be yoga> > > > karakas.> > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> > Shadbala> > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this> lagna.> > > > > �> > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > > �> > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > > Regards> > > > > Parasara> > > > > �> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate> hors.> > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members> > > > >> > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji> posted> > > in a> > > > diffrnt forum> > > > >> > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > > > >> > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> > 4�> > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > > >> > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > > 8th�> > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > > 12th�> > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > >> > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� > 2> > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed son> > ran> > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one unmarried> > one> > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of them�> > > � �> > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with one> > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not talking> > > > >> > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > >> > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house> mercury> > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra to> > > jupiter> > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > > >> > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope> horrible> > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > > person�> > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > > > official worker also> > > > >> > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> > abusive> > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve trouble> > eye> > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status died> > > recently> > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > > properties> > > > also> > > > >> > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.> sufferings> > > and> > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > > >> > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > > hors.2> > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury> and> > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing nothing> > > > manifested in his hors.> > > > >> > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc> etc> > > > >> > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if members> > have> > > any> > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > > >> > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old generation> > > > people> > > > >> > > > > with regards> > > > >> > > > > sairaman> > > > >> > > > > .> > > > >> > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > Progression:> > > > >> > > > > �> > > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€> > > > >> > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > >> > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you wish.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > >> > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > > .> > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > Progression:> > > > >> > > > > u can quota my details> > > > >> > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co.> > in> > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > <inder_> > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa Progression:> > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > > %40.> > > > com>> > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > >> > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits> and> > > > Vishmotary> > > > >> > > > > Dasha for this I request> > > > >> > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for> your> > > own> > > > cases> > > > >> > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > > >> > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> > /your> > > > >> > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share> and> > > > want to> > > > >> > > > > have an answer to that.> > > > >> > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your> permission> > > if> > > > I am> > > > >> > > > > allowed or not to use> > > > >> > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > >> > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > >> > > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > >> > > > > ----------> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > >> > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release Date:> > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > > >> > > > >

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Respected Sunil Nairji,

 

Thankyou,

 

Vijay Goel

 

, " Sunil "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

> dear vijay Goel Ji

>

> sorry for replying late

>

> i do blv planets in weak avasta s ,unless it is arohi position ( may b

> it is here we diffrs ) to bhava madhya -but useful only during dasa at

> proper time

> when we analyse otherwise

> here u can see jupiter is moving to next sign which of debilation and

> ketu is sitting there and doubly afflicted tho mars is 9th L ,the

> agnimaruta effect is falling on 5th House .

>

> also 12th house has rahu and gulika making drained of all saving and

> investmnts

>

> ppl with bad 12th house has problems to children too esp when the dasa

> of planets connected with it or every dasa change

>

> The dasa of 12th L is going on ( who is having this dosha )

>

> also it is repeating frm bhava lagana frm 5th house and karaka Lagna of

> children in 8th house of mishaps

>

> again let me tell u one thing his son who is having a Govtmnt job is

> missing and i think he lost his job

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

>

> , " vijay.goel "

> <goyalvj@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sunil Nair Ji,

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna,

> >

> > I have also learnt from this chart.

> >

> > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long

> time

> > and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect.

> He

> > must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is

> aspecting

> > Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...

> >

> > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in

> general

> > sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or

> > baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta

> > then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.

> >

> > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and

> > marriage.

> > 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse

> than

> > saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a

> > good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic

> > vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life.

> This

> > is the net result of this analysis.

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sunil "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay goel Ji

> > >

> > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the

> > > chart .

> > >

> > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but

> this

> > > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some

> charts

> > r

> > > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested

> > >

> > > many thanks

> > >

> > > with warm rgrds sunil nair

> > >

> > >

> > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,

> > > >

> > > > Natal Chart

> > > >

> > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > >

> > > > Few Observation :

> > > >

> > > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty

> kendre

> > > are

> > > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own

> effort

> > > and

> > > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.

> > > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is

> in

> > > 9th

> > > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.

> > > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in

> > life,

> > > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in

> his

> > > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other

> > is

> > > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]

> > > >

> > > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always

> > > feels

> > > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :

> > > Saturn

> > > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.

> > > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle

> in

> > > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not

> good

> > > for

> > > > marriage happiness.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No

> > > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is

> > drained

> > > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from

> sisters

> > &

> > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters

> > > coming

> > > > from past birth.

> > > >

> > > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,

> > > Moon

> > > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of

> > Jupiter,

> > > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.

> > > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness

> > > them.

> > > >

> > > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and

> > > neecha

> > > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada

> > and

> > > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.

> > > note

> > > > Venus is avayogi planet also.

> > > >

> > > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by

> Saturn

> > > than

> > > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury

> > dasa

> > > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Sunil "

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear parasara JI

> > > > >

> > > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .

> > > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his

> most

> > > of

> > > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??

> > > > >

> > > > > some of ur reading baffles me

> > > > >

> > > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is

> > case

> > > i

> > > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi

> and

> > > > > navamsa

> > > > >

> > > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me

> what

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??

> > > > >

> > > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details

> > > > provided

> > > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??

> > > > >

> > > > > sairaman Ji s father in law

> > > > >

> > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > >

> > > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00 " , 10 N 49' 00 "

> > > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > > >

> > > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)

> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)

> > > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)

> > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)

> > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Parasara Hora

> > > Sastra

> > > > > hparasara@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out

> > > some

> > > > > blemishes.

> > > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in

> > > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.

> > > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.

> > > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural

> significator

> > > of

> > > > > Brothers.

> > > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari

> > yoga

> > > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn

> and

> > is

> > > > > also weak in Shadbala.

> > > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is

> till

> > > 2012

> > > > > Aug 21.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and

> > also

> > > > in

> > > > > Rasi.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are �

> considered

> > to

> > > > be yoga

> > > > > karakas.

> > > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in

> > > Shadbala

> > > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this

> > lagna.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Parasara

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > �

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate

> > hors.

> > > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > �

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > >

> > > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji

> > posted

> > > > in a

> > > > > diffrnt forum

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > �

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29

> > > 4�

> > > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury

> > > > 8th�

> > > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in

> > > > 12th�

> > > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

> > > > > >

> > > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18�

> > 2

> > > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed

> son

> > > ran

> > > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one

> unmarried

> > > one

> > > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of

> them�

> > > > � �

> > > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with

> one

> > > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

> > > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not

> talking

> > > > > >

> > > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house

> > mercury

> > > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra

> to

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope

> > horrible

> > > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice

> > > > person�

> > > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good

> > > > > official worker also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough

> > > abusive

> > > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve

> trouble

> > > eye

> > > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status

> died

> > > > recently

> > > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no

> > > > properties

> > > > > also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.

> > sufferings

> > > > and

> > > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

> > > > > >

> > > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of

> > > > hors.2

> > > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury

> > and

> > > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing

> nothing

> > > > > manifested in his hors.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc

> > etc

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if

> members

> > > have

> > > > any

> > > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old

> generation

> > > > > people

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sairaman

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM

> > > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

> > > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM

> > > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > Progression:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > �

> > > > > > “u can quota my detailsâ€

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you

> wish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @

> > > > .

> > > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das

> > > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM

> > > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > Progression:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > u can quota my details

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@

> .co.

> > > in

> > > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in

> > > <inder_

> > > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >

> > > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> Progression:

> > > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic

> > > > %40.

> > > > > com>

> > > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits

> > and

> > > > > Vishmotary

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dasha for this I request

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for

> > your

> > > > own

> > > > > cases

> > > > > >

> > > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.

> > > /your

> > > > > >

> > > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share

> > and

> > > > > want to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > have an answer to that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your

> > permission

> > > > if

> > > > > I am

> > > > > >

> > > > > > allowed or not to use

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With Best Wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > > >

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Dear Vijay Goyal Ji,Your comments on Vargottama Jupiter in 5H in Sagittarius islogical but it had other blemishes also:1.A Vargottama planet in a house do protect the significance of the house2. Jupiter is in 30th degree of the sign , this is a blemish3. Jupiter in 5H is not able to give happiness from children , BUT THE ELDEST SON DO VERY WELL AND PROVE MOST INTELLIGENT AMONG ALL CHILDREN. This is also confirmed by Dr. Raman in his commentary of Bhavarth Ratnakar4. Jupiter is conjunct with Ketu and Malefics are in 4H and 8H from it. This is harmful to the significance of Jupiter. Many yogas are mentioned in Bhirat Jatak based on this principle.5. As jupiter aspects 4th and 8th houses by 75% aspect. Therefore signification of planets placed in these houses improves to some extent.(this aspect do not generate sambandha but otherwise had significant effect). The purpose of this mail is do draw attention of group members to other aspects when a planer is placed in a particular house and sign. This does not mean that others do not know or understand it. With respecr and regards,G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 From: goyalvjDate: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:00:45 +0000 Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji Respected Sunil Nairji,Thankyou,Vijay Goel , "Sunil" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > dear vijay Goel Ji> > sorry for replying late> > i do blv planets in weak avasta s ,unless it is arohi position ( may b> it is here we diffrs ) to bhava madhya -but useful only during dasa at> proper time> when we analyse otherwise> here u can see jupiter is moving to next sign which of debilation and> ketu is sitting there and doubly afflicted tho mars is 9th L ,the> agnimaruta effect is falling on 5th House .> > also 12th house has rahu and gulika making drained of all saving and> investmnts> > ppl with bad 12th house has problems to children too esp when the dasa> of planets connected with it or every dasa change> > The dasa of 12th L is going on ( who is having this dosha )> > also it is repeating frm bhava lagana frm 5th house and karaka Lagna of> children in 8th house of mishaps> > again let me tell u one thing his son who is having a Govtmnt job is> missing and i think he lost his job> > rgrds sunil nair> > > , "vijay.goel"> <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Respected Sunil Nair Ji,> >> > Hare Rama Krsna,> >> > I have also learnt from this chart.> >> > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long> time> > and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect.> He> > must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is> aspecting> > Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...> >> > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in> general> > sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or> > baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta> > then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.> >> > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and> > marriage.> > 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse> than> > saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a> > good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic> > vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life.> This> > is the net result of this analysis.> >> > Thankyou,> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> >> >> > , "Sunil"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay goel Ji> > >> > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> > > chart .> > >> > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but> this> > > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some> charts> > r> > > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> > >> > > many thanks> > >> > > with warm rgrds sunil nair> > >> > >> > > , "vijay.goel"> > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sirs,> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > > >> > > > Natal Chart> > > >> > > > April 29, 1925> > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > >> > > > Few Observation :> > > >> > > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty> kendre> > > are> > > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own> effort> > > and> > > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is> in> > > 9th> > > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in> > life,> > > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in> his> > > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other> > is> > > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> > > >> > > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> > > feels> > > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> > > >> > > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :> > > Saturn> > > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle> in> > > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not> good> > > for> > > > marriage happiness.> > > >> > > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is> > drained> > > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from> sisters> > & > > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> > > coming> > > > from past birth.> > > >> > > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,> > > Moon> > > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of> > Jupiter,> > > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> > > them.> > > >> > > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> > > neecha> > > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada> > and> > > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> > > note> > > > Venus is avayogi planet also.> > > >> > > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by> Saturn> > > than> > > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury> > dasa> > > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> > > >> > > > Thankyou,> > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Sunil"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear parasara JI> > > > >> > > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his> most> > > of> > > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > > > >> > > > > some of ur reading baffles me> > > > >> > > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is> > case> > > i> > > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi> and> > > > > navamsa> > > > >> > > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me> what> > is> > > > the> > > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > > > >> > > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > > > provided> > > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > > > >> > > > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > > > >> > > > > Natal Chart> > > > >> > > > > April 29, 1925> > > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > > >> > > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > > > >> > > > > Rgrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , Parasara Hora> > > Sastra> > > > > hparasara@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello> > > > > > �> > > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> > > some> > > > > blemishes.> > > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > > > �> > > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural> significator> > > of> > > > > Brothers.> > > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari> > yoga> > > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn> and> > is> > > > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is> till> > > 2012> > > > > Aug 21.> > > > > > �> > > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and> > also> > > > in> > > > > Rasi.> > > > > > �> > > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are �> considered> > to> > > > be yoga> > > > > karakas.> > > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> > > Shadbala> > > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this> > lagna.> > > > > > �> > > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > > > �> > > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Parasara> > > > > > �> > > > > > �> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate> > hors.> > > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > �> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Members> > > > > >> > > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji> > posted> > > > in a> > > > > diffrnt forum> > > > > >> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > �> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear members> > > > > >> > > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> > > 4�> > > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > > > >> > > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > > > 8th�> > > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > > > 12th�> > > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > > >> > > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18�> > 2> > > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed> son> > > ran> > > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one> unmarried> > > one> > > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of> them�> > > > � �> > > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with> one> > > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not> talking> > > > > >> > > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > > >> > > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house> > mercury> > > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra> to> > > > jupiter> > > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > > > >> > > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope> > horrible> > > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > > > person�> > > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > > > > official worker also> > > > > >> > > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> > > abusive> > > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve> trouble> > > eye> > > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status> died> > > > recently> > > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > > > properties> > > > > also> > > > > >> > > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.> > sufferings> > > > and> > > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > > > >> > > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > > > hors.2> > > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury> > and> > > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing> nothing> > > > > manifested in his hors.> > > > > >> > > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc> > etc> > > > > >> > > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if> members> > > have> > > > any> > > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > > > >> > > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old> generation> > > > > people> > > > > >> > > > > > with regards> > > > > >> > > > > > sairaman> > > > > >> > > > > > .> > > > > >> > > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > > Progression:> > > > > >> > > > > > �> > > > > > “u can quota my details�> > > > > >> > > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > > >> > > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you> wish.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > >> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > > >> > > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > > > .> > > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > > Progression:> > > > > >> > > > > > u can quota my details> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@> .co.> > > in> > > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > <inder_> > > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> Progression:> > > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > > > %40.> > > > > com>> > > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > > >> > > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits> > and> > > > > Vishmotary> > > > > >> > > > > > Dasha for this I request> > > > > >> > > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for> > your> > > > own> > > > > cases> > > > > >> > > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > > > >> > > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> > > /your> > > > > >> > > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share> > and> > > > > want to> > > > > >> > > > > > have an answer to that.> > > > > >> > > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your> > permission> > > > if> > > > > I am> > > > > >> > > > > > allowed or not to use> > > > > >> > > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > > >> > > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > > >> > > > > > ----------> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > >> > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release> Date:> > > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > > > >> > > > > >

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Dear respected shri Goel Jinamaskar and pranam s. Thanks for educating us on status of Vargottam and its various aspects of planet and its karakatwa s when there is a blemish in chart.But i hav a humble request u to erase address Tag in ur posts ( we know it is a automatic setting in ur mails and not intentional ) as it is against our grp policy and we know that it did happened in hurry . many thanks for ur co operation , pls continue to educate and enlighten us with lots of rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Goyal Ji,

> Your comments on Vargottama Jupiter in 5H in Sagittarius is

> logical but it had other blemishes also:

> 1.A Vargottama planet in a house do protect the significance of the house

> 2. Jupiter is in 30th degree of the sign , this is a blemish

> 3. Jupiter in 5H is not able to give happiness from children , BUT THE ELDEST

> SON DO VERY WELL AND PROVE MOST INTELLIGENT AMONG ALL CHILDREN.

> This is also confirmed by Dr. Raman in his commentary of Bhavarth Ratnakar

> 4. Jupiter is conjunct with Ketu and Malefics are in 4H and 8H from it. This is

> harmful to the significance of Jupiter. Many yogas are mentioned in Bhirat > Jatak based on this principle.

> 5. As jupiter aspects 4th and 8th houses by 75% aspect. Therefore signification > of planets placed in these houses improves to some extent.(this aspect do not > generate sambandha but otherwise had significant effect).

> The purpose of this mail is do draw attention of group members to other aspects > when a planer is placed in a particular house and sign. This does not mean that others > do not know or understand it.

> With respecr and regards,

> > G. K. Goel

> > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433

> > > > >

> goyalvj

> Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:00:45 +0000

> Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil Nairji,

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > , "Sunil" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > > > > > dear vijay Goel Ji

> > > > > > sorry for replying late

> > > > > > i do blv planets in weak avasta s ,unless it is arohi position ( may b

> > > it is here we diffrs ) to bhava madhya -but useful only during dasa at

> > > proper time

> > > when we analyse otherwise

> > > here u can see jupiter is moving to next sign which of debilation and

> > > ketu is sitting there and doubly afflicted tho mars is 9th L ,the

> > > agnimaruta effect is falling on 5th House .

> > > > > > also 12th house has rahu and gulika making drained of all saving and

> > > investmnts

> > > > > > ppl with bad 12th house has problems to children too esp when the dasa

> > > of planets connected with it or every dasa change

> > > > > > The dasa of 12th L is going on ( who is having this dosha )

> > > > > > also it is repeating frm bhava lagana frm 5th house and karaka Lagna of

> > > children in 8th house of mishaps

> > > > > > again let me tell u one thing his son who is having a Govtmnt job is

> > > missing and i think he lost his job

> > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > > > , "vijay.goel"

> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Sunil Nair Ji,

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,

> > > >

> > > > I have also learnt from this chart.

> > > >

> > > > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long

> > > time

> > > > and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect.

> > > He

> > > > must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is

> > > aspecting

> > > > Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...

> > > >

> > > > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in

> > > general

> > > > sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or

> > > > baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta

> > > > then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.

> > > >

> > > > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and

> > > > marriage.

> > > > 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse

> > > than

> > > > saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a

> > > > good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic

> > > > vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life.

> > > This

> > > > is the net result of this analysis.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Sunil"

> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the

> > > > > chart .

> > > > >

> > > > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but

> > > this

> > > > > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some

> > > charts

> > > > r

> > > > > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested

> > > > >

> > > > > many thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > with warm rgrds sunil nair

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "vijay.goel"

> > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sirs,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"

> > > > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Few Observation :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty

> > > kendre

> > > > > are

> > > > > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own

> > > effort

> > > > > and

> > > > > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.

> > > > > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is

> > > in

> > > > > 9th

> > > > > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.

> > > > > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in

> > > > life,

> > > > > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in

> > > his

> > > > > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other

> > > > is

> > > > > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always

> > > > > feels

> > > > > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :

> > > > > Saturn

> > > > > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.

> > > > > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle

> > > in

> > > > > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not

> > > good

> > > > > for

> > > > > > marriage happiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No

> > > > > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is

> > > > drained

> > > > > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from

> > > sisters

> > > > &

> > > > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters

> > > > > coming

> > > > > > from past birth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of

> > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.

> > > > > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness

> > > > > them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and

> > > > > neecha

> > > > > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada

> > > > and

> > > > > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.

> > > > > note

> > > > > > Venus is avayogi planet also.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by

> > > Saturn

> > > > > than

> > > > > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury

> > > > dasa

> > > > > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "Sunil"

> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear parasara JI

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .

> > > > > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his

> > > most

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > some of ur reading baffles me

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is

> > > > case

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi

> > > and

> > > > > > > navamsa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me

> > > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details

> > > > > > provided

> > > > > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sairaman Ji s father in law

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > April 29, 1925

> > > > > > > Time: 14:00:00

> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"

> > > > > > > Trichinapalli, India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)

> > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

> > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)

> > > > > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)

> > > > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)

> > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)

> > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Parasara Hora

> > > > > Sastra

> > > > > > > hparasara@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > blemishes.

> > > > > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in

> > > > > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.

> > > > > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.

> > > > > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural

> > > significator

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > Brothers.

> > > > > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari

> > > > yoga

> > > > > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn

> > > and

> > > > is

> > > > > > > also weak in Shadbala.

> > > > > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is

> > > till

> > > > > 2012

> > > > > > > Aug 21.

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and

> > > > also

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > Rasi.

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are �

> > > considered

> > > > to

> > > > > > be yoga

> > > > > > > karakas.

> > > > > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in

> > > > > Shadbala

> > > > > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this

> > > > lagna.

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Parasara

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > > > > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate

> > > > hors.

> > > > > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM

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> > > > > > > > �

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> > > > > > > > Dear Members

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji

> > > > posted

> > > > > > in a

> > > > > > > diffrnt forum

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear members

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29

> > > > > 4�

> > > > > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury

> > > > > > 8th�

> > > > > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in

> > > > > > 12th�

> > > > > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18�

> > > > 2

> > > > > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed

> > > son

> > > > > ran

> > > > > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one

> > > unmarried

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of

> > > them�

> > > > > > � �

> > > > > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with

> > > one

> > > > > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years

> > > > > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not

> > > talking

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house

> > > > mercury

> > > > > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra

> > > to

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope

> > > > horrible

> > > > > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice

> > > > > > person�

> > > > > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good

> > > > > > > official worker also

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough

> > > > > abusive

> > > > > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve

> > > trouble

> > > > > eye

> > > > > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status

> > > died

> > > > > > recently

> > > > > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no

> > > > > > properties

> > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.

> > > > sufferings

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of

> > > > > > hors.2

> > > > > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury

> > > > and

> > > > > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing

> > > nothing

> > > > > > > manifested in his hors.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc

> > > > etc

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if

> > > members

> > > > > have

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old

> > > generation

> > > > > > > people

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sairaman

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM

> > > > > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>

> > > > > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM

> > > > > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > > > Progression:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > �

> > > > > > > > â€Å"u can quota my details�

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you

> > > wish.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @

> > > > > > .

> > > > > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das

> > > > > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM

> > > > > > > > hanskpvedic

> > > > > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > > > Progression:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > u can quota my details

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@

> > > .co.

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in

> > > > > <inder_

> > > > > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >

> > > > > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa

> > > Progression:

> > > > > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic

> > > > > > %40.

> > > > > > > com>

> > > > > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Vishmotary

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dasha for this I request

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for

> > > > your

> > > > > > own

> > > > > > > cases

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.

> > > > > /your

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share

> > > > and

> > > > > > > want to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > have an answer to that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your

> > > > permission

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > I am

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > allowed or not to use

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > With Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni

> > > > > > > >

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