Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Dear Sunil ji,I will more careful to remove the address tag in future in linewith group policyRegards,G. K. Goel From: astro_tellerkeralaDate: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:57:54 +0000 Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji Dear respected shri Goel Jinamaskar and pranam s. Thanks for educating us on status of Vargottam and its various aspects of planet and its karakatwa s when there is a blemish in chart.But i hav a humble request u to erase address Tag in ur posts ( we know it is a automatic setting in ur mails and not intentional ) as it is against our grp policy and we know that it did happened in hurry . many thanks for ur co operation , pls continue to educate and enlighten us with lots of rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Goyal Ji, > Your comments on Vargottama Jupiter in 5H in Sagittarius is > logical but it had other blemishes also: > 1.A Vargottama planet in a house do protect the significance of the house > 2. Jupiter is in 30th degree of the sign , this is a blemish > 3. Jupiter in 5H is not able to give happiness from children , BUT THE ELDEST > SON DO VERY WELL AND PROVE MOST INTELLIGENT AMONG ALL CHILDREN. > This is also confirmed by Dr. Raman in his commentary of Bhavarth Ratnakar > 4. Jupiter is conjunct with Ketu and Malefics are in 4H and 8H from it. This is > harmful to the significance of Jupiter. Many yogas are mentioned in Bhirat > Jatak based on this principle. > 5. As jupiter aspects 4th and 8th houses by 75% aspect. Therefore signification > of planets placed in these houses improves to some extent.(this aspect do not > generate sambandha but otherwise had significant effect). > The purpose of this mail is do draw attention of group members to other aspects > when a planer is placed in a particular house and sign. This does not mean that others > do not know or understand it. > With respecr and regards, > > G. K. Goel > > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 > > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433 > > > > > > goyalvj > Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:00:45 +0000 > Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil Nairji, > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > , "Sunil" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear vijay Goel Ji > > > > > > sorry for replying late > > > > > > i do blv planets in weak avasta s ,unless it is arohi position ( may b > > > it is here we diffrs ) to bhava madhya -but useful only during dasa at > > > proper time > > > when we analyse otherwise > > > here u can see jupiter is moving to next sign which of debilation and > > > ketu is sitting there and doubly afflicted tho mars is 9th L ,the > > > agnimaruta effect is falling on 5th House . > > > > > > also 12th house has rahu and gulika making drained of all saving and > > > investmnts > > > > > > ppl with bad 12th house has problems to children too esp when the dasa > > > of planets connected with it or every dasa change > > > > > > The dasa of 12th L is going on ( who is having this dosha ) > > > > > > also it is repeating frm bhava lagana frm 5th house and karaka Lagna of > > > children in 8th house of mishaps > > > > > > again let me tell u one thing his son who is having a Govtmnt job is > > > missing and i think he lost his job > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > , "vijay.goel" > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil Nair Ji, > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > > > I have also learnt from this chart. > > > > > > > > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long > > > time > > > > and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect. > > > He > > > > must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is > > > aspecting > > > > Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job... > > > > > > > > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in > > > general > > > > sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or > > > > baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta > > > > then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta. > > > > > > > > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and > > > > marriage. > > > > 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse > > > than > > > > saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a > > > > good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic > > > > vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life. > > > This > > > > is the net result of this analysis. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sunil" > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji > > > > > > > > > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the > > > > > chart . > > > > > > > > > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but > > > this > > > > > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some > > > charts > > > > r > > > > > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > > > > > > with warm rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vijay.goel" > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs, > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > April 29, 1925 > > > > > > Time: 14:00:00 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00" > > > > > > Trichinapalli, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Few Observation : > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty > > > kendre > > > > > are > > > > > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own > > > effort > > > > > and > > > > > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones. > > > > > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is > > > in > > > > > 9th > > > > > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H. > > > > > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in > > > > life, > > > > > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in > > > his > > > > > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other > > > > is > > > > > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.] > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always > > > > > feels > > > > > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. : > > > > > Saturn > > > > > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H. > > > > > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle > > > in > > > > > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not > > > good > > > > > for > > > > > > marriage happiness. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No > > > > > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is > > > > drained > > > > > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from > > > sisters > > > > & > > > > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters > > > > > coming > > > > > > from past birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars, > > > > > Moon > > > > > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence. > > > > > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and > > > > > neecha > > > > > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada > > > > and > > > > > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl. > > > > > note > > > > > > Venus is avayogi planet also. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by > > > Saturn > > > > > than > > > > > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury > > > > dasa > > > > > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sunil" > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear parasara JI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart . > > > > > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his > > > most > > > > > of > > > > > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of ur reading baffles me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is > > > > case > > > > > i > > > > > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me > > > what > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details > > > > > > provided > > > > > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman Ji s father in law > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 29, 1925 > > > > > > > Time: 14:00:00 > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00" > > > > > > > Trichinapalli, India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left) > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left) > > > > > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left) > > > > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left) > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le) > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta) > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Parasara Hora > > > > > Sastra > > > > > > > hparasara@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out > > > > > some > > > > > > > blemishes. > > > > > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in > > > > > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships. > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > Dasa of Moon is running. > > > > > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses. > > > > > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural > > > significator > > > > > of > > > > > > > Brothers. > > > > > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari > > > > yoga > > > > > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn > > > and > > > > is > > > > > > > also weak in Shadbala. > > > > > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is > > > till > > > > > 2012 > > > > > > > Aug 21. > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and > > > > also > > > > > > in > > > > > > > Rasi. > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are � > > > considered > > > > to > > > > > > be yoga > > > > > > > karakas. > > > > > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in > > > > > Shadbala > > > > > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this > > > > lagna. > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships. > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Parasara > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate > > > > hors. > > > > > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji > > > > posted > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > diffrnt forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29 > > > > > 4� > > > > > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury > > > > > > 8th� > > > > > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in > > > > > > 12th� > > > > > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18� > > > > 2 > > > > > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed > > > son > > > > > ran > > > > > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one > > > unmarried > > > > > one > > > > > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of > > > them� > > > > > > � � > > > > > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with > > > one > > > > > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years > > > > > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not > > > talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house > > > > mercury > > > > > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra > > > to > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope > > > > horrible > > > > > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice > > > > > > person� > > > > > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good > > > > > > > official worker also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough > > > > > abusive > > > > > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve > > > trouble > > > > > eye > > > > > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status > > > died > > > > > > recently > > > > > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no > > > > > > properties > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors. > > > > sufferings > > > > > > and > > > > > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of > > > > > > hors.2 > > > > > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury > > > > and > > > > > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing > > > nothing > > > > > > > manifested in his hors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if > > > members > > > > > have > > > > > > any > > > > > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old > > > generation > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic > > > > > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM > > > > > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa > > > > > Progression: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > â€Å"u can quota my details� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please give me events dates of your life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you > > > wish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @ > > > > > > . > > > > > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das > > > > > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic > > > > > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa > > > > > Progression: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u can quota my details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ > > > .co. > > > > > in > > > > > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in > > > > > <inder_ > > > > > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > > > > > > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa > > > Progression: > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic > > > > > > %40. > > > > > > > com> > > > > > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits > > > > and > > > > > > > Vishmotary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dasha for this I request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for > > > > your > > > > > > own > > > > > > > cases > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc. > > > > > /your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share > > > > and > > > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have an answer to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your > > > > permission > > > > > > if > > > > > > > I am > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not to use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release > > > Date: > > > > > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Dear respected Goel ji many thanks rgrds sunil nair , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > > Dear Sunil ji,> I will more careful to remove the address tag in future in line> with group policy> Regards,> G. K. Goel> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala Thu, 25 Mar 2010 04:57:54 +0000> Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected shri Goel Ji> > namaskar and pranam s.> > Thanks for educating us on status of Vargottam and its various aspects of planet and its karakatwa s when there is a blemish in chart.> > But i hav a humble request u to erase address Tag in ur posts ( we know it is a automatic setting in ur mails and not intentional ) as it is against our grp policy and we know that it did happened in hurry . > > many thanks for ur co operation , pls continue to educate and enlighten us > > with lots of rgrds sunil nair > > > , gopal krishna goel g.k.goel@ wrote:> >> > > > > Dear Vijay Goyal Ji,> > > Your comments on Vargottama Jupiter in 5H in Sagittarius is> > > logical but it had other blemishes also:> > > 1.A Vargottama planet in a house do protect the significance of the house> > > 2. Jupiter is in 30th degree of the sign , this is a blemish> > > 3. Jupiter in 5H is not able to give happiness from children , BUT THE ELDEST> > > SON DO VERY WELL AND PROVE MOST INTELLIGENT AMONG ALL CHILDREN.> > > This is also confirmed by Dr. Raman in his commentary of Bhavarth Ratnakar> > > 4. Jupiter is conjunct with Ketu and Malefics are in 4H and 8H from it. This is> > > harmful to the significance of Jupiter. Many yogas are mentioned in Bhirat > > > Jatak based on this principle.> > > 5. As jupiter aspects 4th and 8th houses by 75% aspect. Therefore signification > > > of planets placed in these houses improves to some extent.(this aspect do not > > > generate sambandha but otherwise had significant effect).> > > The purpose of this mail is do draw attention of group members to other aspects > > > when a planer is placed in a particular house and sign. This does not mean that others > > > do not know or understand it.> > > With respecr and regards,> > > > > > G. K. Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076> > > > > > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > > > > > mobile: 09350311433> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > goyalvj@> > > Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:00:45 +0000> > > Re: Fw: Re- most unfortunate hors. 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sunil Nairji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Sunil" astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear vijay Goel Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry for replying late> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i do blv planets in weak avasta s ,unless it is arohi position ( may b> > > > > > > it is here we diffrs ) to bhava madhya -but useful only during dasa at> > > > > > > proper time> > > > > > > when we analyse otherwise> > > > > > > here u can see jupiter is moving to next sign which of debilation and> > > > > > > ketu is sitting there and doubly afflicted tho mars is 9th L ,the> > > > > > > agnimaruta effect is falling on 5th House .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > also 12th house has rahu and gulika making drained of all saving and> > > > > > > investmnts> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ppl with bad 12th house has problems to children too esp when the dasa> > > > > > > of planets connected with it or every dasa change> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dasa of 12th L is going on ( who is having this dosha )> > > > > > > > > > > > > > also it is repeating frm bhava lagana frm 5th house and karaka Lagna of> > > > > > > children in 8th house of mishaps> > > > > > > > > > > > > > again let me tell u one thing his son who is having a Govtmnt job is> > > > > > > missing and i think he lost his job> > > > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Respected Sunil Nair Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have also learnt from this chart.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vargottama Jupiter in own rasi in 5H has baffled me for a very long> > > > > > > time> > > > > > > > and i could not understand the failure of this person in all aspect.> > > > > > > He> > > > > > > > must atleast see the success of his children as Mars as 9L is> > > > > > > aspecting> > > > > > > > Jupiter. Only one son was having the good govt. job...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I donot take higher degrees of jupiter (here >29) as weakness in> > > > > > > general> > > > > > > > sense, as i have not seen producing any correct result [like mritru or> > > > > > > > baal avastha etc] But if degrees fall in MB or Visha gati or gandhanta> > > > > > > > then we must focus on it. Here in this case Mercury is in Gandhanta.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But I generally see Leo lagna person are not very lucky at progeny and> > > > > > > > marriage.> > > > > > > > 'Danda' given by afflicted powerful jupiter will be far more worse> > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > saturn & this is the case here, 8L from Asc. and 7L from moon is not a> > > > > > > > good sign, Vargottama makes it more worse, I believe that only benefic> > > > > > > > vargottama planets give positive else it can produce havoc in life.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > is the net result of this analysis.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "Sunil"> > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay goel Ji> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Many many thanks in participating and done a nice reading abt the> > > > > > > > > chart .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Tho these kinds of exercise others may call it is postmortem but> > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > help us to see so many theories working in deep analysis .Some> > > > > > > charts> > > > > > > > r> > > > > > > > > deceiving type and it is where astrologers merit is being tested> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > many thanks> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > with warm rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "vijay.goel"> > > > > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sirs,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > April 29, 1925> > > > > > > > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > > > > > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Few Observation :> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1) Empty Kendre : As also discussed earlier, chart with empty> > > > > > > kendre> > > > > > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > 'self made' personalities. They rise or fall due to their own> > > > > > > effort> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > mistakes. Negligible support from nears and dear ones.> > > > > > > > > > In this chart Lagnesh sun is exalted in D-1 and in Leo in D-9, is> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > 9th> > > > > > > > > > house with Venus. Lagna & lagnesh is aspected by Jupiter from 5H.> > > > > > > > > > This makes the person strong enough to fight against all odds in> > > > > > > > life,> > > > > > > > > > bit egoist, broader view towards life. This is the best Yoga in> > > > > > > his> > > > > > > > > > chart and gave him a Govt. job. [ Egoist and non listener to other> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > due to Jupiter as 8L and karaktattwa of sun.]> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2) Bandhan Yoga : 3-11 ; 5-9 ; 6-8 ; have planets. : Person always> > > > > > > > > feels> > > > > > > > > > strucked in obstacle whenever opportunity comes in his life.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3) Saturn exalted and retro in 3H as 6,7L ; 6H has Ketu in it. :> > > > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > > primarily will show its all major results of 6H instead of 7H.> > > > > > > > > > 6L exalted in 3H is a strong Duryoga which give constant struggle> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > life. No happiness from younger siblings. Even 7L in 3H is not> > > > > > > good> > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > marriage happiness.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 4) Vargottama retro mercury as 2,11L in 8H aspected by Rahu ; No> > > > > > > > > > savings of any kind, 'Patra' has many holes so all savings is> > > > > > > > drained> > > > > > > > > > out. In my experience 8H mercury brings lot of problems from> > > > > > > sisters> > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > daughters in the family, it is like a debt to sisters & daughters> > > > > > > > > coming> > > > > > > > > > from past birth.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 5) Vargottama own Rasi Jupiter in 5H, 8L aspected by Saturn, Mars,> > > > > > > > > Moon> > > > > > > > > > : Please also note retro mercury is placed in other Rasi of> > > > > > > > Jupiter,> > > > > > > > > > therefore 8L effect of jupiter will be prominence.> > > > > > > > > > Net result will be mixed result, Progeny is their but no happiness> > > > > > > > > them.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 6) Marital harmony : Venus deeply combust aspected by saturn and> > > > > > > > > neecha> > > > > > > > > > in D-9, aspected by saturn destroyed true happiness. Arudha pada> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > Uppada both are in 6\8 axis further exaggerating the problem. Pl.> > > > > > > > > note> > > > > > > > > > Venus is avayogi planet also.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 7) Maha dasa Sequence : Born in Jupiter mahadasa followed by> > > > > > > Saturn> > > > > > > > > than> > > > > > > > > > Mercury than Ketu is not a good sign. Saturn Mahadasa and mercury> > > > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > > came at peak point in life was not at all fruitful.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > , "Sunil"> > > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear parasara JI> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > many thanks for bringing out the clues/trends in chart .> > > > > > > > > > > But i am still worried abt why he got a nagging wife ,why his> > > > > > > most> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > the children suffered ??what r all indications in his chart ??> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > some of ur reading baffles me> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > One is kemadrooma Yoga ,can u explain a bit abt it .If this is> > > > > > > > case> > > > > > > > > i> > > > > > > > > > > think Bill gates has Kemadroom Yoga> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2nd one is ur reading of Navamsa Lagna Lord debilated in rasi> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > navamsa> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3rd one is the mentioning of 12 Lord malefic ,can u tell me> > > > > > > what> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > basis of this ??is it frm Parasara Hora or ??> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > which data u r using ?? Here is the chart according to details> > > > > > > > > > provided> > > > > > > > > > > by sairaman ji,r u using the same chart ??> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sairaman Ji s father in law> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > April 29, 1925> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 14:00:00> > > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > > Place: 78 E 41' 00", 10 N 49' 00"> > > > > > > > > > > Trichinapalli, India> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (11.53% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)> > > > > > > > > > > Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (52.62% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (34.87% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (23.05% left)> > > > > > > > > > > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Le)> > > > > > > > > > > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ta)> > > > > > > > > > > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun)> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > , Parasara Hora> > > > > > > > > Sastra> > > > > > > > > > > hparasara@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > The horoscope seems to be good.But on studying we can find out> > > > > > > > > some> > > > > > > > > > > blemishes.> > > > > > > > > > > > Although there are Three planets in their own signs or in> > > > > > > > > > > exaltation,there are reasons for this natives hardships.> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > Dasa of Moon is running.> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is the 12th lord in 11 th house.Both are malefic houses.> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in conjunction with Mars who is the natural> > > > > > > significator> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > Brothers.> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is in a Kemadruma Yoga.Although Moon is in a Gaja Kesari> > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > with Jupiter in Kendra from it, Jupiter is aspected by Saturn> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > also weak in Shadbala.> > > > > > > > > > > > So the Kemadruma yoga is operating in full now.The dasa is> > > > > > > till> > > > > > > > > 2012> > > > > > > > > > > Aug 21.> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover his navamsa lagna lord is debilitated in Navamsa and> > > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > Rasi.> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > For Leo lagna ,Mars,Jupiter and Sun� are �> > > > > > > considered> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > be yoga> > > > > > > > > > > karakas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars is in conjunction with 12 th lord ,Jupiter is week in> > > > > > > > > Shadbala> > > > > > > > > > > and Sun is aspected by Venus and Saturn both Marakas for this> > > > > > > > lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > These reasons might be the cause for his hardships.> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VAASUDEVAYA> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil Nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > > > > > > > > > Fw: Re- most unfortunate> > > > > > > > hors.> > > > > > > > > > > 14thmarch10-sairaman ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, 14 March, 2010, 6:23 AM> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > � Here is another interesting chart which sairaman ji> > > > > > > > posted> > > > > > > > > > in a> > > > > > > > > > > diffrnt forum> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > rgrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 14/3/10, sairam nat sairaman53 > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > here is an interesting unfortunate hors. of father in law 29> > > > > > > > > 4�> > > > > > > > > > > 1925� � 2 pm trichy> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > leo lagna sarturn in 3rd , jupiter 5th kethu 6,� mercury> > > > > > > > > > 8th�> > > > > > > > > > > � venus sun in 9th� moon and mars in 11th raghu in> > > > > > > > > > 12th�> > > > > > > > > > > jupiter str now moon dasa kethu bukthi from 2009 11 14> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > wife tough abusive tortures lady died of heart attack 18�> > > > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > > > 2005� children one unmaried one multiple marriage failed> > > > > > > son> > > > > > > > > ran> > > > > > > > > > > away leaving a very good govt job unmarried daughter one> > > > > > > unmarried> > > > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > no issues� all brothers sisters died nearly 7 of> > > > > > > them�> > > > > > > > > > � �> > > > > > > > > > > job govt clerk now at 86 retired pensioner� living with> > > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > > > daughter� ,, bed ridden no treatment for past 2 years> > > > > > > > > > > > all in bed cannot stand sit erect just eyes are open not> > > > > > > talking> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > children wife health childrfen life all failed miserably> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > here saturn sun exalted jupiter moolatrikona in 5th house> > > > > > > > mercury> > > > > > > > > > > neecha� banga� exactly moon and� mars kenthra> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > giving yogas lagna aspected by jupiter from own house> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in spite of having traditional good yogas good horoscope> > > > > > > > horrible> > > > > > > > > > > family life and at the old age also bed ridden however a nice> > > > > > > > > > person�> > > > > > > > > > > unharmful hard working no habits very helpful all in family good> > > > > > > > > > > official worker also> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > no own house no vechile children not comfortable very tough> > > > > > > > > abusive> > > > > > > > > > > wife not in good health lot of disease� to him nerve> > > > > > > trouble> > > > > > > > > eye> > > > > > > > > > > nose etc etc..three good brothers� in � full status> > > > > > > died> > > > > > > > > > recently> > > > > > > > > > > 2 sisters died now one left alive he is the eldest of all no> > > > > > > > > > properties> > > > > > > > > > > also> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any convincing rules for this miserable hors.> > > > > > > > sufferings> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > unhappy in every walk of life till at this old age> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > at the outset apears to be a good hors. with nice placement of> > > > > > > > > > hors.2> > > > > > > > > > > exalted planet one moolatrikona one vipareetha raja yoga mercury> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > moon mas and jupiter in angle forming a good yoga nothing> > > > > > > nothing> > > > > > > > > > > manifested in his hors.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > closely known hors. no doubt of incidents or of the timing etc> > > > > > > > etc> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > there should be some unknown rules to explain� if> > > > > > > members> > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > any> > > > > > > > > > > points to say about this hor. for this state pls explain> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > i could also see some wealthy healthy good family old> > > > > > > generation> > > > > > > > > > > people> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > with regards> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > sairaman> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > IS THERE ANY CONVINCING POINTS FOR THIS MISERABLE HOR. FROM> > > > > > > > > > > TRADITIONAL RULES FOR THIS STATE OF AFFAIRS> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, 13 March, 2010 4:47:28 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > RE: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > > > > > > > > Progression:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > �> > > > > > > > > > > > â€Å"u can quota my details�> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Please give me events dates of your life.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I had your birth data , in private or in the Forum as you> > > > > > > wish.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic [hanskpvedic @> > > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > > > > com] On Behalf Of sujata das> > > > > > > > > > > > 12 March, 2010 11:05 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > > > > > > > > Progression:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > u can quota my details> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@> > > > > > > .co.> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > <inder_ jit_sahni% 40.co. in> > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni <inder_jit_sahni@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > <inder_> > > > > > > > > > > jit_sahni% 40.co. in> >> > > > > > > > > > > > [hanskpvedic] Transits and Vimsottari Dasa> > > > > > > Progression:> > > > > > > > > > > > hanskpvedic <hanskpvedic> > > > > > > > > > %40.> > > > > > > > > > > com>> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 12 March, 2010, 12:01 PM> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at Divisional Charts relations with the transits> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > Vishmotary> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dasha for this I request> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > To all the list members ,if you can provide me birth data for> > > > > > > > your> > > > > > > > > > own> > > > > > > > > > > cases> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > or to your known confirmed bio data> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > with date of Marriage/birth of child/Divorce/ remarriage etc.> > > > > > > > > /your> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > occupation and date of joining etc.Any thing you wish to share> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > want to> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > have an answer to that.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This will remain private with me and tell me about your> > > > > > > > permission> > > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > I am> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed or not to use> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > it in future research paper without mentioning your reference.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > As a goodwill you may ask one question about your birth chart.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Inder Jit Sahni> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2733 - Release> > > > > > > Date:> > > > > > > > > > > 03/10/10 01:03:00> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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