Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Eunuch in Hindu Astrology – a study. The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’ A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire; A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species; A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese Empires). Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: In Sloka 23 in Adyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ –also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras – say, ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach: The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect; The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another); The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.' The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’) These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. Pathi A.V.Pathi, Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8, T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Dear all, This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see whether this works in actual or not. // ˜the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach: The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect; The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another); The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.' // If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of sterility, then... I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a eunuch. I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time for it is scheduled. I have two children officially. So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two to be manifest in a single chart. But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, then I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of eunuchs so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really present in a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any research work on this, cannot believe the above to be actually working the way it is said to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. best wishes, Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Eunuch in Hindu Astrology â€" a study.>  > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’> A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire;>  > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species;>  > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese Empires).>  > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures:>  > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ â€"also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras â€" say,> ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach:>  > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama);> 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting;> 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect;> 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another);> 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above)> 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.'> The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’)>  > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility.>  > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes.>  > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts.>  > Pathi>  > A.V.Pathi,  > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems,> Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc.,> (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road.> 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8,> T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India.>  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Dear Moderators, , Though I am contributing from original experience and No Copy paste, but yet have rarely ever put my address here as signature. But I see that others are allowed to do so. In that case would I ask your permissions to do so in my case too , so that I too could increase my professional business ??? And also seek your permissions to put lot of copy paste, and my address as signature every time I do some copy paste. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear all, This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see > whether this works in actual or not. > // ˜the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally > to the production of a eunach: > > The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually > aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or > Pournami or Prathama); > > 1. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; 2. > Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in > even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun > in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx > aspect; 3. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by > Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in > quincunx to another); 4. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an > odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) 5. > Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.' > // > > If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of > sterility, then... > > I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. > > I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a > eunuch. > > I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time for > it is scheduled. > > I have two children officially. > > So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two to > be manifest in a single chart. > > But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, then > I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of eunuchs > so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really present in > a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any research work on > this, cannot believe the above to be actually working the way it is said > to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , venkatachala pathi > pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology †" a study. > >  > > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’ > > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who > may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire; > >  > > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or > disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species; > >  > > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in > certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese > Empires). > >  > > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: > >  > > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ > †" also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras †" say, > > ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally to the production of a eunach: > >  > > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually > aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or > Pournami or Prathama); > > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun > in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the > Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in > quincunx aspect; > > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars > (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx > to another); > > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' > > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the > time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless > and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or > female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is > the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’) > >  > > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause > for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. > >  > > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or > Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. > >  > > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage > ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of > marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. > >  > > Pathi > >  > > A.V.Pathi,  > > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, > > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., > > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. > > 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8, > > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. > >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Why this biased treatment from the Lovely moderators ? I have never spent any holiday in a foreign country like Pathiji, I too would like to do so.... Why not let me earn too from this Group, when I have been a regular contributor ? Please I await your kind grace to shower on me too.. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Moderators, , > > Though I am contributing from original experience and No Copy paste, but > yet have rarely ever put my address here as signature. > > But I see that others are allowed to do so. In that case would I ask > your permissions to do so in my case too , so that I too could increase > my professional business ??? And also seek your permissions to put lot > of copy paste, and my address as signature every time I do some copy > paste. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > Dear all, This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see > > whether this works in actual or not. > > // ˜the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally > > to the production of a eunach: > > > > The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually > > aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or > > Pournami or Prathama); > > > > 1. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; 2. > > Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in > > even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the > Sun > > in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in > quincunx > > aspect; 3. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by > > Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in > > quincunx to another); 4. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an > > odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) 5. > > Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' > > // > > > > If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of > > sterility, then... > > > > I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. > > > > I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a > > eunuch. > > > > I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time > for > > it is scheduled. > > > > I have two children officially. > > > > So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two > to > > be manifest in a single chart. > > > > But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, > then > > I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of > eunuchs > > so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really present > in > > a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any research work on > > this, cannot believe the above to be actually working the way it is > said > > to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , venkatachala pathi > > pathiav@ wrote: > > > > > > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology †" a study. > > >  > > > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’ > > > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), > who > > may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual > desire; > > >  > > > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or > > disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his > species; > > >  > > > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in > > certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese > > Empires). > > >  > > > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: > > >  > > > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ > > †" also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras †" say, > > > ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending > > severally to the production of a eunach: > > >  > > > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore > mutually > > aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or > > Pournami or Prathama); > > > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun > > in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the > > Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in > > quincunx aspect; > > > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars > > (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx > > to another); > > > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > > signs.' > > > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the > > time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be > fruitless > > and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male > or > > female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This > is > > the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’) > > >  > > > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause > > for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. > > >  > > > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or > > Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. > > >  > > > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage > > ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of > > marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. > > >  > > > Pathi > > >  > > > A.V.Pathi,  > > > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, > > > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., > > > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. > > > 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8, > > > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. > > >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Dear respected bhaskar Ji Thanks for raising imp questions on combinations provided by shri pathi ji Long back i strted forgetting all such combinations ( lets say yogas ),as my guruji asked me to use astrological basics ,logics and karakatwa etc and he told me,if we r strong with foundations s of astrology we can make as much as yogas we want .even the books deals with traditional yoga s ( combinations )are generaly doing the same but making a nativ to do Hard work without giving Logic behind it .I am talking abt special yogas like this than raja yoga s .In a male chart sun givs power to impregnate ,venus givs power of semen ,etc and for being as born as eunuch may b this dual signs has a play or this barren signs has a role I seen a male chart, father of 2 kids but impotent now i find sun aspected by sani in navamsa (even together in navamsa can giv such a result if other combo s support in chart) also he is born in virgo sign ,his wife told me --she find he was using enhancers during early yrs of their married life and then may b total become ineffectiv even with the so called medicines .) sani aspecting sun navamsa ,let me tell more clearly sani in a rasi aspecting Navamsa rasi of sun take rasi tulya navamsa rasi ,for exmple sani in aries in rasi chart and sun in navamsa in Libra ) ,so after few yrs of marriage he lost his interest ( what i can call it ) may b our memebrs has something more to say and i leav rest of the job to them chart detaills i cannot share in grp rgrds sunil nair , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Dear all, This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see> whether this works in actual or not.> // ˜the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally> to the production of a eunach:> > The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually> aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or> Pournami or Prathama);> > 1. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; 2.> Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in> even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun> in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx> aspect; 3. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by> Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in> quincunx to another); 4. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an> odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) 5.> Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.'> //> > If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of> sterility, then...> > I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch.> > I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a> eunuch.> > I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time for> it is scheduled.> > I have two children officially.> > So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two to> be manifest in a single chart.> > But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, then> I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of eunuchs> so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really present in> a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any research work on> this, cannot believe the above to be actually working the way it is said> to be, as presented by Shri pathiji..> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , venkatachala pathi> pathiav@ wrote:> >> > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology â€" a study.> > Â> > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’> > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who> may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire;> > Â> > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or> disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species;> > Â> > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in> certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese> Empires).> > Â> > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures:> > Â> > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’> â€"also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras â€" say,> > ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending> severally to the production of a eunach:> > Â> > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually> aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or> Pournami or Prathama);> > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting;> > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun> in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the> Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in> quincunx aspect;> > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars> (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx> to another);> > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being> aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above)> > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd> signs.'> > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the> time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless> and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or> female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is> the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’)> > Â> > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause> for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility.> > Â> > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or> Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes.> > Â> > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage> ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of> marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts.> > Â> > Pathi> > Â> > A.V.Pathi, Â> > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems,> > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc.,> > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road.> > 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8,> > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India.> >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Dear Respcted shri Pathi Ji Many thanks for posting this article but we request u to erase ur address under ur signature as per our grp's general policy .Thanks and rgrds sunil nair , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Eunuch in Hindu Astrology â€" a study.>  > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’> A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire;>  > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species;>  > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese Empires).>  > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures:>  > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ â€"also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras â€" say,> ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach:>  > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama);> 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting;> 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect;> 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another);> 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above)> 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.'> The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’)>  > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility.>  > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes.>  > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts.>  > Pathi>  > A.V.Pathi,  > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems,> Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc.,> (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road.> 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8,> T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India.>  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Dear Shri Sunil Nair ji, He has been requested innumerous times, and will not listen till the Moderators are strict. And if someone else does this same thing like putting his address or sending some commercial mail, then he would be pounced upon by the same Pathiji - because the world has become too evil hese days. The motto is " If I cannot earn then I will not allow anyone else to earn " ... Love and regards, Bhaskar. , " Sunil " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Dear Respcted shri Pathi Ji > > Many thanks for posting this article > > but we request u to erase ur address under ur signature as per our > grp's general policy . > > Thanks and rgrds sunil nair > > , venkatachala pathi > pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology †" a study. > >  > > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’ > > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who > may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire; > >  > > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or > disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species; > >  > > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in > certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese > Empires). > >  > > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: > >  > > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ > †" also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras †" say, > > ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally to the production of a eunach: > >  > > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore > mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in > Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); > > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun > in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the > Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in > quincunx aspect; > > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars > (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx > to another); > > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' > > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the > time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless > and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or > female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is > the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’) > >  > > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause > for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. > >  > > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or > Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. > >  > > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage > ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of > marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. > >  > > Pathi > >  > > A.V.Pathi,  > > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, > > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., > > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. > > 'Duttakutir'; 1st Floor Flat No:8, > > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. > >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Bhaskarji, Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will follow the procedure and ask you. Thanking you, Micky--- On Mon, 29/3/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Eunuch - a Study Date: Monday, 29 March, 2010, 5:14 PM Dear all, This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see whether this works in actual or not. // ˜the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach: The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect; The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another); The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.' // If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of sterility, then... I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a eunuch. I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time for it is scheduled. I have two children officially. So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two to be manifest in a single chart. But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, then I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of eunuchs so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really present in a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any research work on this, cannot believe the above to be actually working the way it is said to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Eunuch in Hindu Astrology â€" a study.>  > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’> A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire;>  > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species;>  > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese Empires).>  > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures:>  > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ â€"also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras â€" say,> ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach:>  > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama);> 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting;> 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect;> 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another);> 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above)> 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.'> The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’)>  > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility.>  > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes.>  > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts.>  > Pathi>  > A.V.Pathi,  > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems,> Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc.,> (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road.> 'Duttakutir' ; 1st Floor Flat No:8,> T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India.>  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Mr. Adi Chopra, // Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will follow the procedure and ask you. // What do you mean by above ....????????@@@@@@@ & & & & & & ((()))))))**** Bhaskar. , adi chopra <adi.choprain wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, >  > Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will follow the procedure and ask you. >  > Thanking you, > Micky > > --- On Mon, 29/3/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Eunuch - a Study > > Monday, 29 March, 2010, 5:14 PM > > >  > > > > > Dear all, >  > This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see whether this works in actual or not. > > // ˜the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach: > The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); > > Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect; > The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another); > The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.' //              > If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of sterility, then... > I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. > I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a eunuch. > I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time for it is scheduled. > I have two children officially. > So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two to be manifest in a single chart. > But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, then I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of eunuchs so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really present in a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any research work on this, cannot believe the above to be actually working the way it is said to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. >  > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology †" a study. > >  > > The following are the collected meaning of a ‘Eunuch’ > > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual desire; > >  > > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species; > >  > > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese Empires). > >  > > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: > >  > > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘Jathaka Parijatha’ †" also abridging ‘Saraavalli’ Suthras †" say, > > ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tending severally to the production of a eunach: > >  > > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); > > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx aspect; > > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to another); > > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd signs.' > > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. (This is the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’) > >  > > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. > >  > > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. > >  > > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage ‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. > >  > > Pathi > >  > > A.V.Pathi,  > > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, > > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., > > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. > > 'Duttakutir' ; 1st Floor Flat No:8, > > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. > >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Bhaskar Bhai, I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way. So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would also make an interesting study. regards, Mouji Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Bhaskarji, This was in regards to your earlier mail where you asked us to refer to the procedure on the home page to ask a query. I just said that I will follow that procedure and ask you. Regards, Micky--- On Wed, 31/3/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Eunuch - a Study Date: Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 3:06 PM Mr. Adi Chopra,// Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I willfollow the procedure and ask you. //What do you mean by above ....???????? @@@@@@@ & & & & & & ((()) )))))****Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, adi chopra<adi.choprain@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> Â> Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I willfollow the procedure and ask you.> Â> Thanking you,> Micky>> --- On Mon, 29/3/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:>>> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 29 March, 2010, 5:14 PM>>> Â>>>>> Dear all,> Â> This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see whether thisworks in actual or not.>> // Ëœthe following are the six Planetary positions tendingseverally to the production of a eunach:> The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutuallyaspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi orPournami or Prathama);>> Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting;> Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun ineven sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sunin an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunxaspect;> The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (whichmeans affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx toanother);> The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both beingaspected by Mars ( the worst among all above)> Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to oddsigns.' //           Â Â> If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss ofsterility, then...> I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch.> I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not aeunuch.> I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the timefor it is scheduled.> I have two children officially.> So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or twoto be manifest in a single chart.> But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart,then I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas ofeunuchs so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they reallypresent in a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done anyresearch work on this, cannot believe the above to be actually workingthe way it is said to be, as presented by Shri pathiji..> best wishes,> Bhaskar.> Â> ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathipathiav@ wrote:> >> > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology â€" a study.> > ÂÂ> > The following are the collected meaning of a‘Eunuch’> > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men),who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexualdesire;> > ÂÂ> > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed ordisorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species;> > ÂÂ> > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or incertain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and ChineseEmpires).> > ÂÂ> > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures:> > ÂÂ> > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in ‘JathakaParijatha’ â€"also abridging‘Saraavalli’ Suthras â€" say,> > ‘the following are the six Planetary positions tendingseverally to the production of a eunach:> > ÂÂ> > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and thereforemutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born inChathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama);> > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting;> > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sunin even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, theSun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or inquincunx aspect;> > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars(which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunxto another);> > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both beingaspected by Mars ( the worst among all above)> > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to oddsigns.'> > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at thetime of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitlessand if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of maleÂÂor female, the couple will not be producing any child at all.(This is the meaning of ‘KLEEBA’)> > ÂÂ> > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a causefor breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility.> > ÂÂ> > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna orPrasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes.> > ÂÂ> > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage‘compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoidbreak of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts.> > ÂÂ> > Pathi> > ÂÂ> > A.V.Pathi, ÂÂ> > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems,> > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc.,> > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road.> > 'Duttakutir' ; 1st Floor Flat No:8,> > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India.> >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842> >>>>>>>>>> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Mouji Bhai, These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too. 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows.. Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my own chart. In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect and conjunction. But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on this.. Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon maar sake na koi. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Bhaskar Bhai, > > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way. > > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would also make an interesting study. > > regards, > > Mouji Ram > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them . Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death . we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s ) only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct ) , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Micky ji, Can you please present the copy of this correspondence to this Group ? My reply, and the mail written by you to which my reply was made... rgrds/Bhaskar. , adi chopra <adi.choprain wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, >  > This was in regards to your earlier mail where you asked us to refer to the procedure on the home page to ask a query. I just said that I will follow that procedure and ask you. >  > Regards, > Micky > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Eunuch - a Study > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 3:06 PM > > >  > > > > > Mr. Adi Chopra, > > // Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will > follow the procedure and ask you. // > > What do you mean by above ....???????? @@@@@@@ & & & & & & ((()) )))))**** > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, adi chopra > <adi.choprain@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > >  > > Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will > follow the procedure and ask you. > >  > > Thanking you, > > Micky > > > > --- On Mon, 29/3/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 29 March, 2010, 5:14 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > >  > > This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see whether this > works in actual or not. > > > > // ËŠ" the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally to the production of a eunach: > > The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually > aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or > Pournami or Prathama); > > > > Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in > even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun > in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx > aspect; > > The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which > means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to > another); > > The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' //            >   > > If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of > sterility, then... > > I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. > > I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a > eunuch. > > I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time > for it is scheduled. > > I have two children officially. > > So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two > to be manifest in a single chart. > > But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, > then I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of > eunuchs so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really > present in a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any > research work on this, cannot believe the above to be actually working > the way it is said to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > >  > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi > pathiav@ wrote: > > > > > > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology †" a study. > > >  > > > The following are the collected meaning of a > â€ˊ" Eunuch’ > > > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), > who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual > desire; > > >  > > > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or > disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species; > > >  > > > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in > certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese > Empires). > > >  > > > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: > > >  > > > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in â€ˊ" Jathaka > Parijatha’ †" also abridging > â€ˊ" Saraavalli’ Suthras †" say, > > > â€ˊ" the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally to the production of a eunach: > > >  > > > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore > mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in > Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); > > > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun > in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the > Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in > quincunx aspect; > > > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars > (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx > to another); > > > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' > > > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the > time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless > and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male > or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. > (This is the meaning of â€ˊ" KLEEBA’) > > >  > > > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause > for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. > > >  > > > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or > Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. > > >  > > > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage > â€ˊ" compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid > break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. > > >  > > > Pathi > > >  > > > A.V.Pathi,  > > > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, > > > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., > > > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. > > > 'Duttakutir' ; 1st Floor Flat No:8, > > > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. > > >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear Adi Choprain (Micky) ji, You have not been given any mail by me in this Group and neither in any other Group- I have just checked. In fact you have put 5 mails to Jyotish_Ganga Group wherein I have addressed all the members to follow the instructions given on the Home Page, which you have not.. I have not addressed any mail specifically to You.. And I do not understand why are you referring about the hapennings in that group, in this Group... I have not even asked you to say a Sorry. About 90% of the Queries go unanswered there due to members not following the instructions, and I dont ask anyone to tell me sorry if he does not abide through the rules of the Group. In any case, that is a matter of that group, and not to be talked about here. best wishes, Bhaskar. , adi chopra <adi.choprain wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, >  > This was in regards to your earlier mail where you asked us to refer to the procedure on the home page to ask a query. I just said that I will follow that procedure and ask you. >  > Regards, > Micky > > --- On Wed, 31/3/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Eunuch - a Study > > Wednesday, 31 March, 2010, 3:06 PM > > >  > > > > > Mr. Adi Chopra, > > // Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will > follow the procedure and ask you. // > > What do you mean by above ....???????? @@@@@@@ & & & & & & ((()) )))))**** > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, adi chopra > <adi.choprain@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > >  > > Sorry for not following the procedure for asking a query. I will > follow the procedure and ask you. > >  > > Thanking you, > > Micky > > > > --- On Mon, 29/3/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, 29 March, 2010, 5:14 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > >  > > This is a good message by Shri Pathi ji to us . lets see whether this > works in actual or not. > > > > // ËŠ" the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally to the production of a eunach: > > The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore mutually > aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in Chathurdasi or > Pournami or Prathama); > > > > Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun in > even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the Sun > in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in quincunx > aspect; > > The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars (which > means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx to > another); > > The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' //            >   > > If any of the above Yogas cause impotency, eunuchness, or loss of > sterility, then... > > I have been born on a Poornima. But am not a eunuch. > > I have Venus,the Moon and kagna occupying odd Navamsas. But am not a > eunuch. > > I am very much sterile and have a strong sexual desire when the time > for it is scheduled. > > I have two children officially. > > So the above Yogas are not working in my case if we check one or two > to be manifest in a single chart. > > But if it is supposed that all of these must be present in a chart, > then I would request Shri pathiji to please give us some few datas of > eunuchs so that we could ourselves check these.. whether they really > present in a eunuchs chart. since I do not know any nor done any > research work on this, cannot believe the above to be actually working > the way it is said to be, as presented by Shri pathiji.. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > >  > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi > pathiav@ wrote: > > > > > > Eunuch in Hindu Astrology †" a study. > > >  > > > The following are the collected meaning of a > â€ˊ" Eunuch’ > > > A gender category involving non-sexual individuals (usually men), > who may be castrated or merely celibate, sterile, or lacking sexual > desire; > > >  > > > A male whose organs of generation have been so far removed or > disorganized, that he is rendered incapable of reproducing his species; > > >  > > > A castrated human male; such a man employed as harem guard or in > certain (mainly Eastern) monarchies (e.g. late Roman and Chinese > Empires). > > >  > > > Let us see what is available in astrology sciptures: > > >  > > > In Sloka 23 inAdyaya III in â€ˊ" Jathaka > Parijatha’ †" also abridging > â€ˊ" Saraavalli’ Suthras †" say, > > > â€ˊ" the following are the six Planetary positions tending > severally to the production of a eunach: > > >  > > > 1. The Sun and the Moon in opposition positions and therefore > mutually aspecting ( this will be in the chart for those born in > Chathurdasi or Pournami or Prathama); > > > 2. Mercury and Saturn in opposition and so mutually aspecting; > > > 3. Mars in opposition to Sun, the Sun being in even sign; or the Sun > in even sign, being aspected by Mars (Mars being in any sign); or, the > Sun in an even sign in opposition or square to Mars position, or in > quincunx aspect; > > > 4. The Moon and the lagna being in odd signs and aspected by Mars > (which means affliction by mars being in square to one and in quincunx > to another); > > > 5. The Moon in an even sign and Mercury in an odd sign both being > aspected by Mars ( the worst among all above) > > > 6. Venus, the Moon and the Lagna occupying Navamsa belonging to odd > signs.' > > > The above six Yogas (combined effects by positioned planets) at the > time of copulation will result in nothing. The coition will be fruitless > and if any of the above Yogas are found in the horoscope of male > or female, the couple will not be producing any child at all. > (This is the meaning of â€ˊ" KLEEBA’) > > >  > > > These are most unfavorable and detrimental to conception and a cause > for breaking marriages due to inefficient bed time compatibility. > > >  > > > Further, these are to be studied for prediction from Adhana Lagna or > Prasna Lagna and not merely checking horoscopes. > > >  > > > It is requested that all astrologers who check charts for marriage > â€ˊ" compatibility’ must refer to these, to avoid > break of marriage due to this reason, while matching the charts. > > >  > > > Pathi > > >  > > > A.V.Pathi,  > > > Astrologer, specialising in Marriage match, Family problems, > > > Education, Health, Progeny, Finance, and Litigation, etc., > > > (Old 13) 25, Dr. Gopalakrishna Road. > > > 'Duttakutir' ; 1st Floor Flat No:8, > > > T'Nagar, Chennai 600 017, India. > > >  Phone: 044 2815 5633; Cell :: 0 9840047842 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala Re: Eunuch - a Study Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Gopu-ji, I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu....but I have not understood how it can be related to the event. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: Eunuch - a Study dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: Eunuch - a Study Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 dear sri chakrabortyji, thanks for ur analysis.I am also not in a postion to figure out the fall from a height. By the grace of God the child had a miraculous escape. the child had internal bleeding of the ear which could be treated. however the parents have been asked to bring the child for periodic review. regards, k.gopu--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study"' '" Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:45 PM Dear Gopu-ji, I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to the event. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Studyancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Friends,The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg.In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with dual signs.In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs.Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Marsis occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) .At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in D-1 and D-9.If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by Mr. C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child.Regard,G. K. Goel From: CHAKRABORTYP2Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Gopu-ji, I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu....but I have not understood how it can be related to the event. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: Eunuch - a Study dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: Eunuch - a Study Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Sir, The chart is a Vargottama chart , Atmakarka Saturn is also Vargottama ,and Lagna Lord Mercury is in Exalted Navamsa.Moon , Day Lord Venus and Mercury are under the good influence of Jupitereither in D-1 or D-9 chart.These are the possible reasons for survival.There are some Arista - Bhanga yogas are also operating.Regards,G. K. Goel From: kgopu_24Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 05:23:57 -0700RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study dear sri chakrabortyji, thanks for ur analysis.I am also not in a postion to figure out the fall from a height. By the grace of God the child had a miraculous escape. the child had internal bleeding of the ear which could be treated. however the parents have been asked to bring the child for periodic review. regards, k.gopu--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 (AT) iocl (DOT) co.in> wrote: Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2 (AT) iocl (DOT) co.in>RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study"' '" Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:45 PM Dear Gopu-ji, I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to the event. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Studyancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Friends, Fall from a height would always be confirmed whenever the houses 1 and 8 operate. I have seen this hapenning in 3 Charts at least till date. Today I saw another chart, and asked the Native (He just left my place after 2 and a half hours consultations) whether did he suffer from a fall of height or wound on head, and he answered in the positive very surprisesd and appreciative of my great astrological knowledge (??? Haha). He also had the same houses operating when this happened. The current chart put up in the Group also, if you check Rahu is being aspected by saturn within 2 degrees orb and Saturn represents the 1st and the 8th houses, which got activated , and he suffered a fall from a height. This is simple astrology with simple rules. One need not make it complicated. best wishes, Bhaskar. , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear sri chakrabortyji, > thanks for ur analysis.I am also not in a postion to figure out > the fall from a height. By the grace of God the child had a miraculous > escape. the child had internal bleeding of the ear which could be > treated. however the parents have been asked to bring the child > for periodic review. >  > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Thu, 4/1/10, Chakraborty, PL CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > > Chakraborty, PL CHAKRABORTYP2 > RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study > " ' ' " > Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:45 PM > > >  > > > > > Dear Gopu-ji, >  > I had a look at the chart.  But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. >  > Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, > Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, > chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. >  > At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of " falling from height " . Sreenadh-ji had > probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due > to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). >  > I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in > Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then > the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). >  > The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to > the event. >  > regards >  > Chakraborty >  >  >  >  > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K Gopu > Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > > >  dear shri sunilji and other learned members, > I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the > balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. > since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart > can be taken for discussion. > DOB: 20th May 2005, > time: 9.37am > place: bangalore >  > the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava > it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. >  > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: > > > Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM > > >  > > > Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji > > thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them . > > Now coming to 3rd house > > sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona > > so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death . > > we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit > > with all the wishes in new way of learning > > rgrds sunil nair > > our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s ) > > only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct ) > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mouji Bhai, > > > > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy > > paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and > > co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good > > society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too. > > > > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a > > bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the > > month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that > > this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in > > Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows.. > > > > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my > > own chart. > > > > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves > > vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the > > 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and > > transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect > > and conjunction. > > > > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on > > this.. > > > > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada > > apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon > > maar sake na koi. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > mouji99@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar Bhai, > > > > > > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does > > associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning > > to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I > > avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way. > > > > > > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them > > was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His > > Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would > > also make an interesting study. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e., Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha. Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it. regards, Manoj gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PMRE: Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Friends,The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg.In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with dual signs.In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs.Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Marsis occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) .At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in D-1 and D-9.If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by Mr. C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child.Regard,G. K. Goel ancient_indian_ astrologyCHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.inThu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Gopu-ji, I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to the event. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Studyancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Mouji Bhai, (Brother Mouji) Joh hone waale hai kismat mein use koi rok sakta nahin (What is to happen as per destiny no one can stop or avoid it) hum aur aap dekhte rah jaayenge panchi ud jaayega kahin (You and me will just be onlooking and the bird will fly away somewhere). These big thesis of postmartems and complicated discussions they do, serve no purpose at all, when looked with a logistical view. Astrology though not easy to learn, is very simple once we know how to swim, otherwise we may keep on writing lengthy discussions on the why and how endlessly with no knowledge to forecast a similiar event in another Chart put before us.. If we cannot forecast then what sense all this makes.... better to go to a pastry shop and buy some cakes... I enjoy your brief entries Mouji Bhai... this makes me remember - sau Sonar ki, ek Lohar ki. (Somebody please translate this, I got fed up of doing free translation work). Bhaskar. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e., Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha. > > Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > ________________________________ > gopal krishna goel g.k.goel > > Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PM > RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study > >  > Dear Friends, > The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter > Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira. > Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg. > In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with > dual signs. > In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10 > house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs. > Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted > by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Mars > is occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) . > At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in > D-1 and D-9. > If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by > Mr. C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in > Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine. > Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child. > Regard, > > > G. K. Goel ________________________________ > ancient_indian_ astrology > CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530 > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > >  > > > Dear Gopu-ji, >  > I had a look at the chart.  But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. >  > Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, > Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, > chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. >  > At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of " falling from height " . Sreenadh-ji had > probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due > to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). >  > I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in > Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then > the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). >  > The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to > the event. >  > regards >  > Chakraborty >  >  >  >  > > > ________________________________ > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K Gopu > Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > >  > dear shri sunilji and other learned members, > I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the > balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. > since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart > can be taken for discussion. > DOB: 20th May 2005, > time: 9.37am > place: bangalore > > the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava > it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. > > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: > > > >Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM > > > > > > > > > >Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji > > > >thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them . > > > >Now coming to 3rd house > > > >sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona > > > >so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death . > > > >we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit > > > >with all the wishes in new way of learning > > > >rgrds sunil nair > > > >our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s ) > > > >only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct ) > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Dear Mouji Bhai, > >> > >> These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy > >> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and > >> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good > >> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too. > >> > >> 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a > >> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the > >> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that > >> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in > >> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows.. > >> > >> Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my > >> own chart. > >> > >> In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves > >> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the > >> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and > >> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect > >> and conjunction. > >> > >> But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on > >> this.. > >> > >> Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada > >> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon > >> maar sake na koi. > >> > >> best wishes, > >> > >> Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > >> mouji99@ wrote: > >> > > >> > Bhaskar Bhai, > >> > > >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does > >> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning > >> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I > >> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way. > >> > > >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them > >> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His > >> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would > >> also make an interesting study. > >> > > >> > regards, > >> > > >> > Mouji Ram > >> > > >> > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Manoj ji,I accept that you are a astrologer of international fame.I invite you to attend my institute to learn ABC OF ASTROLOGY .THAT YOU DIFFERENTLY LACK.GOD MAY GRANT YOU SOME WISDOM AND MANNERISM TO BEHAVE IN GROUP DISCUSSIONS.G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433 From: mouji99Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:36:11 -0700Re: Re: Eunuch - a Study On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e., Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha. Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it. regards, Manoj gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PMRE: Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Friends,The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg.In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with dual signs.In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs.Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Marsis occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) .At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in D-1 and D-9.If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by Mr. C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child.Regard,G. K. Goel ancient_indian_ astrologyCHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.inThu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Gopu-ji, I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to the event. regards Chakraborty ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study dear shri sunilji and other learned members, I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart can be taken for discussion. DOB: 20th May 2005, time: 9.37am place: bangalore the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. regards, k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Studyancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Moderators, Whats hapenning here ? Everyone is allowed to put their addresses as signature. And they do it everytime after each warning by you people. How are they able to do it without your hands on their back ? What is the exact rule to be followed ? How many times will you give preferential treatment to a few, and on what basis ? Why not allow this to others. Would not it be justice done to all. Anyways you are the Bosses of the Group. We are just members who can be thrown out at your mercy.. best wishes, Bhaskar. , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote: > > > Dear Manoj ji, > I accept that you are a astrologer of international fame. > I invite you to attend my institute to learn ABC OF ASTROLOGY . > THAT YOU DIFFERENTLY LACK. > GOD MAY GRANT YOU SOME WISDOM AND MANNERISM TO BEHAVE > IN GROUP DISCUSSIONS. > > G. K. Goel > > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076 > > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433 > > > > > > mouji99 > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:36:11 -0700 > Re: Re: Eunuch - a Study > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e., Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha. > > Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it. > > regards, > > Manoj > > > > > > gopal krishna goel g.k.goel > > Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PM > RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study > > > > Dear Friends, > The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter > Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira. > Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg. > In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with > dual signs. > In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10 > house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs. > Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted > by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Mars > is occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) . > At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in > D-1 and D-9. > If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by > Mr. C.S Patel), > Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in > Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine. > Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child. > Regard, > > > G. K. Goel > > ancient_indian_ astrology > CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530 > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Gopu-ji, > > I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L. > > Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum, > Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna, > chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided. > > At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of " falling from height " . Sreenadh-ji had > probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due > to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case). > > I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in > Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then > the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+). > > The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to > the event. > > regards > > Chakraborty > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K Gopu > Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > > dear shri sunilji and other learned members, > I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the > balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm. > since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart > can be taken for discussion. > DOB: 20th May 2005, > time: 9.37am > place: bangalore > > the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava > it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam. > > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: > > > Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM > > > > > > Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji > > thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them . > > Now coming to 3rd house > > sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona > > so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death . > > we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit > > with all the wishes in new way of learning > > > rgrds sunil nair > > our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s ) > > only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct ) > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mouji Bhai, > > > > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just > do copy > > paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and > > co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good > > society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too. > > > > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a > > bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the > > month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that > > this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in > > Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows.. > > > > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my > > own chart. > > > > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves > > vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the > > 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever > dasha allows this, and > > transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect > > and conjunction. > > > > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on > > this.. > > > > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada > > apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon > > maar sake na koi. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > > mouji99@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar Bhai, > > > > > > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does > > associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning > > to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I > > avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. > one way. > > > > > > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them > > was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His > > Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would > > also make an interesting study. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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