Eunuch - a Study

April 1, 2010

Dear Moderators,

I demand a reply from you.

Otherwise Bhaskar will never visit your Group again...

am sad that either the Moderators are not serious, or not taken

seriously....

Why ? What ?

Bhaskar.

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Moderators,

>

> Whats hapenning here ? Everyone is allowed to put their addresses as

> signature. And they do it everytime after each warning by you people.

> How are they able to do it without your hands on their back ? What is

> the exact rule to be followed ? How many times will you give

> preferential treatment to a few, and on what basis ?

>

> Why not allow this to others. Would not it be justice done to all.

>

> Anyways you are the Bosses of the Group. We are just members who can

be

> thrown out at your mercy..

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , gopal krishna goel

> g.k.goel@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> > I accept that you are a astrologer of international fame.

> > I invite you to attend my institute to learn ABC OF ASTROLOGY .

> > THAT YOU DIFFERENTLY LACK.

> > GOD MAY GRANT YOU SOME WISDOM AND MANNERISM TO BEHAVE

> > IN GROUP DISCUSSIONS.

> >

> > G. K. Goel

> >

> > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

> >

> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352,

> >

> > mobile: 09350311433

> >

> > mouji99@

> > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:36:11 -0700

> > Re: Re: Eunuch - a Study

> >

> > On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through

> Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e.,

> Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So,

> shall we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to

> always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to

> first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure

that

> all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two

> hoots for running dasha.

> >

> > Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such

thing.

> Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Manoj

> >

> > gopal krishna goel g.k.goel@

> >

> > Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PM

> > RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of

> chapter

> > Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.

> > Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is

risimg.

> > In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses

> with

> > dual signs.

> > In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars

> joins Rahu in 10

> > house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs.

> > Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa

> this sign is afflicted

> > by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun .

In

> D-1 chart, Mars

> > is occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa

> kundly) .

> > At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious

> afliction in

> > D-1 and D-9.

> > If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as

> suggested by

> > Mr. C.S Patel),

> > Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in

> > Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.

> > Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the

> nativity of child.

> > Regard,

> >

> > G. K. Goel

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in

> > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530

> > RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

> >

> > Dear Gopu-ji,

> >

> > I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of

> falling with 3rd L.

> >

> > Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one

> discussion in this forum,

> > Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a

> malefic is there in lagna,

> > chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But

> no timing was provided.

> >

> > At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of " falling

> from height " . Sreenadh-ji had

> > probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic,

> should indicate injury due

> > to something falling from height (not someone falling from

height..as

> in this case).

> >

> > I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the

> progressed lagna is in

> > Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly

> different (say 25d), then

> > the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+).

> >

> > The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it

can

> be related to

> > the event.

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Chakraborty

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_

> indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K Gopu

> > Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

> >

> > dear shri sunilji and other learned members,

> > I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the

> > balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm.

> > since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this

> chart

> > can be taken for discussion.

> > DOB: 20th May 2005,

> > time: 9.37am

> > place: bangalore

> >

> > the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in

bhava

> > it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam.

> >

> > regards,

> > k.gopu

> >

> > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

> >

> > Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM

> >

> > Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji

> >

> > thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can

predict

> everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first

of

> all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as

> everything is fixed according to them .

> >

> > Now coming to 3rd house

> >

> > sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our

> neighborhood too and one of kama trikona

> >

> > so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot

him

> then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death

..

> >

> > we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said

> anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to

follow

> them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit

> >

> > with all the wishes in new way of learning

> >

> > rgrds sunil nair

> >

> > our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which

we

> follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as ,

atleast

> frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )

> >

> > only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is

why

> one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as

net

> itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the

> name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov

> they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and

any

> discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching

> core of the subjuct )

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mouji Bhai,

> > >

> > > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just

> > do copy

> > > paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects

> and

> > > co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the

> good

> > > society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.

> > >

> > > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me

a

> > > bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did

in

> the

> > > month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew

> that

> > > this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything,

> because in

> > > Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..

> > >

> > > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for

> my

> > > own chart.

> > >

> > > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected

> involves

> > > vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to

the

> > > 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever

> > dasha allows this, and

> > > transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying

> aspect

> > > and conjunction.

> > >

> > > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research

work

> on

> > > this..

> > >

> > > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se

> jyaada

> > > apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe

saaiyon

> > > maar sake na koi.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar

> > > mouji99@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar Bhai,

> > > >

> > > > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu

> does

> > > associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was

> planning

> > > to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why

> should I

> > > avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms.

> > one way.

> > > >

> > > > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none

of

> them

> > > was because of height but because of negligence of the other

driver.

> His

> > > Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That

> would

> > > also make an interesting study.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Mouji Ram

> > > >

> > >

> >

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April 1, 2010

Namaste Manoj ji

Interestingly per Chara Dasha (KN Rao) JHora

gives Gem/Sag/Aqu/Sco/Can/Vir for time of accident with Asc Lord Mer being

aspected in Transit by Natal Jup (GK) to the degree. Interesting to see

connection of 1st (Sani 8L & 9L), 2nd & 7th,

9th (Mars 6L & 11L), 6th & 4th (GK Jup

7L & 10L, Moon 2L & Ketu) – 4th Hse is 8th from

9th Hse. Agree Accident/mishap can be seen though Not necessarily “fall

from a height”?

I get Mars/Rahu/Mars as Vim dasha?

Best regards …..

Ram

On Behalf Of Manoj Kumar

01 April 2010 15:36

Re:

Re: Eunuch - a Study

On the day of the accident, the individual was passing

through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e.,

Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall

we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to always

live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and

when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till

12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha.

Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at

such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it.

regards,

Manoj

gopal krishna

goel <g.k.goel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16

PM

RE:

Re: Eunuch - a Study

Dear Friends,

The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter

Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.

Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg.

In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with

dual signs.

In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in

10

house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in

dual signs.

Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall

from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted

by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1

chart, Mars

is occupying 9H (which represent sign

Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) .

At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction

in

D-1 and D-9.

If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested

by

Mr. C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination

in

Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.

Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity

of child.

Regard,

G. K. Goel

ancient_indian_ astrology

CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in

Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530

RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

Dear

Gopu-ji,

I had a

look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling

with 3rd L.

Regarding

un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum,

Nepali

astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in

lagna,

chances

of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was

provided.

At this

stage, I do not know what should be indicative of " falling from

height " . Sreenadh-ji had

probably

indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury

due

to

something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this

case).

I tried

BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed

lagna is in

Scorpio,

approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d),

then

the

scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+).

The Vim

dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to

the

event.

regards

Chakraborty

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology @.

com] On Behalf Of K Gopu

Thursday, April 01, 2010

3:54 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

Re: [ancient_indian_

astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

dear shri sunilji and other learned members,

I am providing the details of my friend's child who

fell from the

balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010

around 3.30pm.

since the discussion was abt falling from heights I

felt that this chart

can be taken for discussion.

DOB: 20th May 2005,

time: 9.37am

place: bangalore

the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava

it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star

is Hastam.

regards,

k.gopu

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

ancient_indian_ astrology

Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM

Dear respected Bhaskar Ji

and Moujji

thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict

everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of

all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as

everything is fixed according to them .

Now coming to 3rd house

sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too

and one of kama trikona

so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then

there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .

we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it

has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho

these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit

with all the wishes in new way of learning

rgrds sunil nair

our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we

follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast

frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )

only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why

one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net

itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of

astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r

wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any

discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of

the subjuct )

ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Mouji Bhai,

>

> These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy

> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and

> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good

> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.

>

> 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a

> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the

> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that

> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in

> Bombay

actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..

>

> Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my

> own chart.

>

> In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves

> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the

> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and

> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect

> and conjunction.

>

> But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on

> this..

>

> Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada

> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon

> maar sake na koi.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar

> mouji99@ wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar Bhai,

> >

> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu

does

> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning

> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I

> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.

> >

> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of

them

> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His

> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would

> also make an interesting study.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji Ram

> >

>

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Dear Goel ji,

I had only expressed my view that I cant see that and requested you to explain it and you take it as sheer offence and immediately fly off the handle.

We are here for discussing astrology or are we here trying to prove "one upmanship"

best wishes,

Manoj

gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 8:59:13 AMRE: Re: Eunuch - a Study

Dear Manoj ji,I accept that you are a astrologer of international fame.I invite you to attend my institute to learn ABC OF ASTROLOGY .THAT YOU DIFFERENTLY LACK.GOD MAY GRANT YOU SOME WISDOM AND MANNERISM TO BEHAVE IN GROUP DISCUSSIONS.G. K. Goel address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, mobile: 09350311433

ancient_indian_ astrologymouji99 Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:36:11 -0700Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e., Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall we as responsible astrologers warn the parents of the child to always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha.

Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it.

regards,

Manoj

gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyThu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PMRE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study Dear Friends,The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter Six of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg.In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with dual signs.In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs.Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height , In navamsa this sign is afflicted by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Marsis occupying 9H (which represent sign Sagittarius in Kala Purusa kundly) .At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in D-1 and D-9.If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by Mr.

C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child.Regard,G. K. Goel

ancient_indian_ astrologyCHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.inThu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

Dear Gopu-ji,

I had a look at the chart. But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L.

Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum,

Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna,

chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided.

At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had

probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due

to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case).

I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows the progressed lagna is in

Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then

the scenario can be justified (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+).

The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to

the event.

regards

Chakraborty

ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K GopuThursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PMancient_indian_ astrologyRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study

dear shri sunilji and other learned members,

I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the

balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm.

since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart

can be taken for discussion.

DOB: 20th May 2005,

time: 9.37am

place: bangalore

the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava

it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam.

regards,

k.gopu--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:

Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Studyancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM

Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happening in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .Now coming to 3rd house sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit with all the wishes in new way of learning

rgrds sunil nair our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we follows ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm the view point of these net rishies and acharya s )only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool both ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every one as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some one objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studying and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Mouji Bhai,> > These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just

do copy> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> > 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> > Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> own chart.> > In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever

dasha allows this, and> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> and conjunction.> > But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> this..> > Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> maar sake na koi.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> mouji99@ wrote:> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms.

one way.> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> also make an interesting study.> >> > regards,> >> > Mouji Ram> >>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

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Dear Manoj Kumar ji,//We are here for discussing astrology or are we here trying to prove "one upmanship"//you very well know the answer sir....sorry to interveneLove and regards,gopi. , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote:>> Dear Goel ji,> > I had only expressed my view that I cant see that and requested you to explain it and you take it as sheer offence and immediately fly off the handle. > > We are here for discussing astrology or are we here trying to prove "one upmanship"> > best wishes,> > Manoj> > > > > ________________________________> gopal krishna goel g.k.goel > Thu, April 1, 2010 8:59:13 AM> RE: Re: Eunuch - a Study> > Â > Dear Manoj ji,> I accept that you are a astrologer of international fame.> I invite you to attend my institute to learn ABC OF ASTROLOGY .> THAT YOU DIFFERENTLY LACK.> GOD MAY GRANT YOU SOME WISDOM AND MANNERISM TO BEHAVE > IN GROUP DISCUSSIONS.> > G. K. Goel> Â > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076> tel:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > mobile:Â Â 09350311433> > > > > > ________________________________> ancient_indian_ astrology> mouji99 > Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:36:11 -0700> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study> > Â > > > On the day of the accident, the individual was passing through Mars/Rahu/Moon. None of them get connected to the house of fall i.e., Saggitarius. Mandi will remain in Saggitarius for his entire life. So, shall weÂ as responsible astrologersÂ warn the parents of the child to always live on ground floor and never make the mistake of shifting to first floor and when the child goes to school also, we must ensure that all his classes till 12th are on the ground floor itself, caring two hoots for running dasha. > > Sorry, I am not that capable enough to be able to look at such thing. Kindly do help an astrological novice to understand it.> > regards,> > Manoj> > > > > ________________________________> gopal krishna goel g.k.goel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, April 1, 2010 7:02:16 PM> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study> > Â > Dear Friends,> The nativity if child has strong Balarishta as per verse 0ne of chapter > SixÂ of Brihat Jatak of Varaha Mihira.> Kindly observe last Navamsa of dual sign with dual Navamsa is risimg.> In D-1 chart SATURN , Mandi , Moon , Ketu AND Rahu in angular houses with > dual signs.> In D-9 chart , All these malefics are in angular houses, and Mars joins Rahu in 10> house and Mandi is in Sign Sagittarius in dual signs.> Sign Sagittarius is indicative of fall from the height ,Â In navamsa this sign is afflicted > by Mandi , and Ninth house from navamsa Lagna is occupied by Sun . In D-1 chart, Mars> is occupying 9H (which representÂ sign Sagittarius in Kala PurusaÂ kundly) .> At the time of fall Mars/Rahu/Moon was operating.Moon is in serious afliction in > D-1 and D-9.> If we construct Navamsa chart of transit at the time of accident (as suggested by > Mr. C.S Patel), Transit Saturn is transiting over natal Mars Rahu combination in > Navamsa and Transit Rahu is in trine.> Accident by falling from hight is , in my opinion, indicative in the nativity of child.> Regard,> > > G. K. Goel> > > > > > > ________________________________> ancient_indian_ astrology> CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:45:18 +0530> RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study> > Â > > > Dear Gopu-ji,> Â > I had a look at the chart.Â Â But could not find the connection of falling with 3rd L.> Â > Regarding un-supported logics part, I do remember that in one discussion in this forum,> Nepali astrology system was discussed. As per that system, if a malefic is there in lagna,> chances of falling from height & wound mark at head is expected. But no timing was provided.> Â > At this stage, I do not know what should be indicative of "falling from height". Sreenadh-ji had> probably indicated some combination in 10H which, as per classic, should indicate injury due> to something falling from height (not someone falling from height..as in this case).> Â > I tried BCP (uniform progression of lagna with time). It shows theÂ progressed lagna is in > Scorpio, approx 21-22 degree. If the lagna (27Ge04') were slightly different (say 25d), then> the scenario can be justifiedÂ (Lord of Scorpio - Mars is at 19d+).> Â > The Vim dasha shows Mars-Rahu... .but I have not understood how it can be related to> the event.Â > Â > regards> Â > Chakraborty> Â > Â > Â > Â > > > ________________________________> ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_ indian_astrology ] On Behalf Of K Gopu> Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:54 PM> ancient_indian_ astrology> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study> > Â > dear shri sunilji and other learned members,> I am providing the details of my friend's child who fell from the> balcony sitout of the first floor on 22nd march 2010 around 3.30pm.> since the discussion was abt falling from heights I felt that this chart> can be taken for discussion.> DOB: 20th May 2005,> time: 9.37am> place: bangalore> > the lagna is mithunam and the 3rd lord sun is in rsihabam and in bhava> it moves to mesham. rasi is kanya rasi and the star is Hastam.> > regards,> k.gopu> > > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote:> > > >Sunil <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study> >ancient_indian_ astrology> >Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 4:51 PM> >> >> >Â > >> >Dear respected Bhaskar Ji and Moujji > >> >thse ppl are very exprenced and learned ,givn a chart they can predict everything upto seconds of its happeningÂ in a persons life ,as first of all we must think there is no room for improvmnt in a persons life as everything is fixed according to them .> >> >Now coming to 3rd house > >> >sure 3rd house can make fall frm height as 3rd house is our neighborhood too and one of kama trikona > >> >so if some one is tom catting around in nite and if some body spot him then there is fall frm height and then there is chances of even death .> >> >we cannot simply brush aside these rishies words ,if they said anything it has to hav a meaning and our tradition demands us to follow them blindly tho these r internet rishies r hiding in their hermit > >> >with all theÂ wishes in new way of learning > >> >rgrds sunil nair > >> >our problem is our rigid mind set and some stupid principle s which we followsÂ ,we shud look a problem frm various angle s ( read as , atleast frm theÂ view point of these net rishies and acharya s )> >> >only in net every one is same ,intelligent and fool bothÂ ( that is why one popular forum in net giving equal opportunities to every oneÂ as net itself is democratic .U r allowed to post any stupid theories in the name of astrology (if some oneÂ objuct it then u will b asked to proov they r wrong by studyingÂ and applying their cooked up theories )and any discussions they will carry on till end of the world without touching core of the subjuct )> >> >ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >>> >> > >> Dear Mouji Bhai,> >> > >> These people who dont know astrology - even the bsaics, just do copy> >> paste but have no common sense of associating placements, aspects and> >> co-relation of dasha antars etc. Such people are the curse to the good> >> society of real practising astrologers, and spoil their names too.> >> > >> 2 years ago one astrologer from another Group had predicted for me a> >> bomb blast near my face in the year end of 2008. And this he did in the> >> month of March 2008 app. and the rest of the year, though I knew that> >> this fellow cannot predict, yet I spent scared like anything, because in> >> Bombay actually when a Bomb will blast and where nobody knows..> >> > >> Which is the reasons why I never look for predictions on Group for my> >> own chart.> >> > >> In this case of Saturn and Rahu, the 3rd house being connected involves> >> vehicular movement, motion and going out of house (Being 12th to the> >> 4th), hence one can meet with accidents, whenever dasha allows this, and> >> transit of some planet touching the degree of Rahu- or applying aspect> >> and conjunction.> >> > >> But falling from height - I am not sure for never done research work on> >> this..> >> > >> Aap jaaiye na aaram se jahan jaana hai. Main toh Horoscopes se jyaada> >> apne Krishna Bhagwaan par vishwaas rakhta hoon. Jaake raakhe saaiyon> >> maar sake na koi.> >> > >> best wishes,> >> > >> Bhaskar.> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> >> mouji99@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Bhaskar Bhai,> >> >> >> > I am now feeling scared of going to heights. My Saturn and Rahu does> >> associate with my 3rd house and I love hills. Thank god, I was planning> >> to drive this weekend to Dalhousie, shall avoid now, no no, why should I> >> avoid. Atleast I will enjoy my drive for over 500 kms. one way.> >> >> >> > So far the three accidents that I have sufferred in life, none of them> >> was because of height but because of negligence of the other driver. His> >> Saturn and Rahu must be associating with some other house. That would> >> also make an interesting study.> >> >> >> > regards,> >> >> >> > Mouji Ram> >> >> >>> > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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April 2, 2010

Dear Members

I would like to say on this charts recently discussed about accidents.

Joint effect of Mars and Sun on 12th house or 12th house lord makes native prone for accidents.

i believe accidents brings about injuries to the physical body either the native is in motion or by being hit by moving body/object.(Hence role of Mars)

all the 4 cases discussed so far has this effect.

1. eg provided by Sunilji (partha) has Dhanu lagna and 12th lord Mars is in 12th hose in conjuction with Sun.

2. 2nd eg provided by Sunilji has Makar lagna and 12th lord Jupiter in 12th house but not under direct influence on Mars and Sun. But Mars in own sign with Sun in scorpio which is 12th house from natal 12th house(bhavat bhavam priciple )

3. eg provide by Deepakji has makar lagna and 12th lord jupiter in 10th house aspected jointly by Sun from Mesha and by Mars from Meena

4. last eg provided by Gopuji has Mithun Lagna and 12th lord Venus is with Sun and aspect by Mars from Kubha in 9th house.

and whenever the accident has occured transiting Mars and Sun again had joint effect on 12th house/lord.

in eg provide by Sunilji 1st case the event day sun and mars had joint effect on 12th house lord.

2nd case 1st accident also had joint effect during transit.

3rd case provided by deepakji also had joint effect of sun and mars on the day of event

4th case only mars had effect thru aspecting natal mars.

Amit Desai

K Gopu <kgopu_24 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:53:57 PMRE: Re: Eunuch - a Study

dear sri chakrabortyji,

thanks for ur analysis.I am also not in a postion to figure out

the fall from a height. By the grace of God the child had a miraculous

escape. the child had internal bleeding of the ear which could be

treated. however the parents have been asked to bring the child

for periodic review.

regards,

k.gopu--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in> wrote:

Chakraborty, PL <CHAKRABORTYP2@ iocl.co.in>RE: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Eunuch - a Study"'ancient_indian_ astrology'" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Thursday, April 1, 2010, 5:45 PM