Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, I have been reading this discussion and trying my best to understand with my limited..(verylimited understanding). Since i havent reached anywhere near as people like you.. most of attempt to understand the discussions here are based on trying to figure out my chart. I am kumbha lagna and as per my limited understanding.. venus being the lord of 9th house s both my bhadhalesh and yogakarka. And is in my 7th house (maraka sathan) with sun(lord of house). Now while surfing i come across various sites, wherein they mention that kumbha lagna should never wear pukhraaj (yellow saphire) as its lord of 2nd house and 11th house. (somewhere its mention that its related to death. tht is if th dasha of death going on its very risky.) though i m wearing a pookhraaj and feel that i have seen rise in professional and financial status post wearing it. But then again the various websites mention that kumbha lagan should always wear diamond as it wil bring good luck and favor in almost all facets of life. personal, professional and financial. Now my dilemna is that venus is both badhalesh and yogakarka for my ascendant. Well this is attemp just to understand more about charts or my ascendant where one planet is both badhalesh and yogakarka, would be glad to hear thoughts of learn memebers like you on this. and my apologies if i have misspell or misquoted anything. Warm regards, rajesh--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for career? Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:23 AM For at least 4 signs the 9th house is considered to be a badhaksthana... Hows this to be re-conciled ? Can we have some explanation asthis is an area which is a little weak for one to understand.regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"<kiran.rama@ ...> wrote:>> There is no contradiction >> 9th lord by virtue of only considering factor '9th lord' is one of themost auspiscious. But there are other factors that may colour this.>> Only if we can see effects of each variable separately in isolationcan we understand how multiple variables interact to provide an effect:)>> Thanks> Kiran>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > In the previous mail You mention -> >> > "9th lord is one of the most auspiscious planets in the horoscope"> >> > So this mail contradicts the previous one. Whats the explanations ?> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"> > <kiran.rama@ > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Badhaka, Functional Malefic/Benefic are some of the most abusedterms> > in jyotish> > >> > > Folks feel that just because a planet lords inauspicious houses,it> > will give bad results and vice-versa> > > A Saturn who is the lord of a trine like 9th house will not becomea> > Jupiter just because he lords a good house> > >> > > Thanks> > > Kiran> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Saturn becomes debilitated in Lagna for Aries Asc.> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 6/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10Hbe> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 1:08 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear shri senthil,> > > > I am not sure abt ur statement "for mesha lagna 10thlord becomes> > > > bahdaka". Here I would like to mention is mesha lagna lord mars> > > > gets its exaltation in makara ruled by saturn and also stars> > involved> > > > are uttradam, sravanam and avittam. How come the house lord> > becomes> > > > a badhaka for mesha lagna? Maybe learned members can share their> > > > thoughts on this thread.> > > > Â> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 11:08 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Gopu ji> > > >      I agree with you but not for meshalagna> > since 10th lord is badhaka also.Sasa yoga will be powerful for all> > lagnas except mesha..All my friends having sasa yoga are running> > business well except those two.> > > > Correct me if I am wrong.> > > > thanks & regards> > > >> > > > Senthil> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 6/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 7:30 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear shri senthil,> > > > In ur friend's case u have said he had failures in buisnessthough> > saturn> > > > and kethu in 10th from lagna. His failures in buisness isbasically> > due> > > > to the 7th house lord and he also is the IInd lord ie venus. ifhe> > is> > > > weak he cannot be successful in buisness. So he will be more> > > > successful in service if his 6th lord is strong.> > > > saturn being the 11th lord also will give him only beneficialgains.> > > > in the IInd case he has maintaining a vehicle parking standwhich> > once> > > > again is saturn in the 10th house which deals with people andmetals> > > > like iron. Of course without knowing the aspects and details ofthe> > chart> > > > it will be difficult to attribute only to saturn.> > > > In my mail I have said that saturn in 10th without anyconnection to> > > > Sun the person will be powerful behind the curtain leading the> > masses.> > > > Â> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, April 4, 2010, 6:36 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Gopu ji & Basker ji> > > >         Two of my friends bornin> > mesha lagna have sat and ketu in 10th.Both are civil engineers.Oneis> > vastu consultant and the other owns a bike parking stand.Even thoughthe> > vastu man is university first ,he failed alot in his business as a> > builder.Now he is a vastu consultant and earns alot.Is it becausesat is> > badhaga posited in 10th spoils their career?> > > > thanks and regards> > > >> > > > Senthil> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, 4 April, 2010, 12:52 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > dear Bhaskarji,> > > > saturn in the 10th with no connection and the native has astrong> > > > lagna, then the native will lead the masses,he may not come to> > > > power but yet he will have a power over the masses like a person> > > > who acts behind the curtain and yet influencing the rulingpower.> > > > I am sharing my thoughts, though u are an expert.> > > > Â> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > Subject: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:44 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > Some simple Queries, please enlighten with your knowledge.> > > >> > > > 1) Saturn is also the Lord of the 11th of gains in the naturalKala> > > > purusha Chart. It can give superb gains at times for a personworthy> > of> > > > same. Please contradict this argument.> > > >> > > > 2) Saturn in 10th is natural house for Saturn. But what aboutthe> > Sun ?> > > > The Sun connected to 10th gives Political powers impactingmiilions> > of> > > > people. The Sun in 10th makes a Doctor helping thousands of> > patients.> > > > What difference can you envisage , delineate and enumeratebetween> > the> > > > results of the Sun in the 10th and the Saturn in the 10th.> > > >> > > > Kindly acknowledge please.> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"> > > > <kiran.rama@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sa stands for longevity/death, sorrows/emotionalsuffering/karmic> > > > debts, delay/denial, paralysis, tedious work, Spriituality/> > detachment> > > > etc> > > > >> > > > > Ke stands for ascetism/detachment , moksha, pyschic> > ability/metaphysics> > > > >> > > > > 10H stands for fame/honour, career/profession, dharma/life> > purpose,> > > > good deeds/activities that benefit society> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Sa in 10H means person will have a greatcareer> > > > possibly impacting thousands of people. This can only happen ifthe> > > > career is spiritual - same with Ke in 10H> > > > > Can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for a materialistic career? - like> > success in> > > > job, business etc> > > > >> > > > > Only reasoning I feel behind Sa/Ke in 10H are:> > > > > 1. Significations of 10H and Sa/Ke that match - in this case> > > > spirituality/ detchment etc> > > > > 2. Malefic energy welcomed in 10H> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Kiran> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get itNOW!.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get itNOW!.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in.. com/> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 What we can do here perhpas is to take up horoscopes and discuss the role of badhaks in one's life with events. May be we are in for some surprise here? best wishes.. Mouji Dreams Unlimiteds <dreams_unlimiteds Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:09:06 AM Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for career? Dear Bhaskar ji, I have been reading this discussion and trying my best to understand with my limited..(verylimited understanding) . Since i havent reached anywhere near as people like you.. most of attempt to understand the discussions here are based on trying to figure out my chart. I am kumbha lagna and as per my limited understanding. . venus being the lord of 9th house s both my bhadhalesh and yogakarka. And is in my 7th house (maraka sathan) with sun(lord of house). Now while surfing i come across various sites, wherein they mention that kumbha lagna should never wear pukhraaj (yellow saphire) as its lord of 2nd house and 11th house. (somewhere its mention that its related to death. tht is if th dasha of death going on its very risky.) though i m wearing a pookhraaj and feel that i have seen rise in professional and financial status post wearing it. But then again the various websites mention that kumbha lagan should always wear diamond as it wil bring good luck and favor in almost all facets of life. personal, professional and financial. Now my dilemna is that venus is both badhalesh and yogakarka for my ascendant. Well this is attemp just to understand more about charts or my ascendant where one planet is both badhalesh and yogakarka, would be glad to hear thoughts of learn memebers like you on this. and my apologies if i have misspell or misquoted anything. Warm regards, rajesh--- On Thu, 4/8/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for career?ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, April 8, 2010, 1:23 AM For at least 4 signs the 9th house is considered to be a badhaksthana... Hows this to be re-conciled ? Can we have some explanation asthis is an area which is a little weak for one to understand.regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"<kiran.rama@ ...> wrote:>> There is no contradiction >> 9th lord by virtue of only considering factor '9th lord' is one of themost auspiscious. But there are other factors that may colour this.>> Only if we can see effects of each variable separately in isolationcan we understand how multiple variables interact to provide an effect:)>> Thanks> Kiran>> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > In the previous mail You mention -> >> > "9th lord is one of the most auspiscious planets in the horoscope"> >> > So this mail contradicts the previous one. Whats the explanations ?> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"> > <kiran.rama@ > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Badhaka, Functional Malefic/Benefic are some of the most abusedterms> > in jyotish> > >> > > Folks feel that just because a planet lords inauspicious houses,it> > will give bad results and vice-versa> > > A Saturn who is the lord of a trine like 9th house will not becomea> > Jupiter just because he lords a good house> > >> > > Thanks> > > Kiran> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Saturn becomes debilitated in Lagna for Aries Asc.> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 6/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10Hbe> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 1:08 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear shri senthil,> > > > I am not sure abt ur statement "for mesha lagna 10thlord becomes> > > > bahdaka". Here I would like to mention is mesha lagna lord mars> > > > gets its exaltation in makara ruled by saturn and also stars> > involved> > > > are uttradam, sravanam and avittam. How come the house lord> > becomes> > > > a badhaka for mesha lagna? Maybe learned members can share their> > > > thoughts on this thread.> > > > Â> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 11:08 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Gopu ji> > > >      I agree with you but not for meshalagna> > since 10th lord is badhaka also.Sasa yoga will be powerful for all> > lagnas except mesha..All my friends having sasa yoga are running> > business well except those two.> > > > Correct me if I am wrong.> > > > thanks & regards> > > >> > > > Senthil> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 6/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 7:30 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear shri senthil,> > > > In ur friend's case u have said he had failures in buisnessthough> > saturn> > > > and kethu in 10th from lagna. His failures in buisness isbasically> > due> > > > to the 7th house lord and he also is the IInd lord ie venus. ifhe> > is> > > > weak he cannot be successful in buisness. So he will be more> > > > successful in service if his 6th lord is strong.> > > > saturn being the 11th lord also will give him only beneficialgains.> > > > in the IInd case he has maintaining a vehicle parking standwhich> > once> > > > again is saturn in the 10th house which deals with people andmetals> > > > like iron. Of course without knowing the aspects and details ofthe> > chart> > > > it will be difficult to attribute only to saturn.> > > > In my mail I have said that saturn in 10th without anyconnection to> > > > Sun the person will be powerful behind the curtain leading the> > masses.> > > > Â> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, April 4, 2010, 6:36 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Gopu ji & Basker ji> > > >         Two of my friends bornin> > mesha lagna have sat and ketu in 10th.Both are civil engineers.Oneis> > vastu consultant and the other owns a bike parking stand.Even thoughthe> > vastu man is university first ,he failed alot in his business as a> > builder.Now he is a vastu consultant and earns alot.Is it becausesat is> > badhaga posited in 10th spoils their career?> > > > thanks and regards> > > >> > > > Senthil> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, 4 April, 2010, 12:52 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > dear Bhaskarji,> > > > saturn in the 10th with no connection and the native has astrong> > > > lagna, then the native will lead the masses,he may not come to> > > > power but yet he will have a power over the masses like a person> > > > who acts behind the curtain and yet influencing the rulingpower.> > > > I am sharing my thoughts, though u are an expert.> > > > Â> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be> > good for career?> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:44 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > Some simple Queries, please enlighten with your knowledge.> > > >> > > > 1) Saturn is also the Lord of the 11th of gains in the naturalKala> > > > purusha Chart. It can give superb gains at times for a personworthy> > of> > > > same. Please contradict this argument.> > > >> > > > 2) Saturn in 10th is natural house for Saturn. But what aboutthe> > Sun ?> > > > The Sun connected to 10th gives Political powers impactingmiilions> > of> > > > people. The Sun in 10th makes a Doctor helping thousands of> > patients.> > > > What difference can you envisage , delineate and enumeratebetween> > the> > > > results of the Sun in the 10th and the Saturn in the 10th.> > > >> > > > Kindly acknowledge please.> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"> > > > <kiran.rama@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sa stands for longevity/death, sorrows/emotionalsuffering/karmic> > > > debts, delay/denial, paralysis, tedious work, Spriituality/> > detachment> > > > etc> > > > >> > > > > Ke stands for ascetism/detachment , moksha, pyschic> > ability/metaphysics> > > > >> > > > > 10H stands for fame/honour, career/profession, dharma/life> > purpose,> > > > good deeds/activities that benefit society> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Sa in 10H means person will have a greatcareer> > > > possibly impacting thousands of people. This can only happen ifthe> > > > career is spiritual - same with Ke in 10H> > > > > Can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for a materialistic career? - like> > success in> > > > job, business etc> > > > >> > > > > Only reasoning I feel behind Sa/Ke in 10H are:> > > > > 1. Significations of 10H and Sa/Ke that match - in this case> > > > spirituality/ detchment etc> > > > > 2. Malefic energy welcomed in 10H> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Kiran> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get itNOW!.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get itNOW!.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> > http://in.. com/> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Dear Rajesh ji, What is mentioned on most websites , do You know ? One fellow writes something. The other fellow Copy pastes it when he makes a wesbite for himself. Most of the content available on the websites ona strology is Copy Paste from one another with few changes, and No origanility .(Here I mention - most). Most of the owners of the websites on astrology are from people from Software companies having Websites creating and launching knowledge who are just boys between age of 22-30 who know nothing about Astrology, but just this much that this is a verypromsising potential source of making money. Those idiots who mention that one should not wear Pukhraj for Kumbha Lagna must have given some reasons. Please let me have those. Diamond for Kumbha Lagna is good only in education age. Not afterwards. A man should try not to wear diamonds if he is already very sensous. . In Your case,You dont try wearing a Diamond with Yellow Sapphire as they are contradictory stones.. I dont suggest Gemstones as per just lordships . This is also not the right way to suggest Gemstones. One has to look in totality what a planet will give before suggesting Gemstones. And just Lordships do not tell us the whole story of the planet we are looking for sugegsting a Gemstone. This pratikool and anukool theory doing the rounds is all bakwaas , and not more than 50 people in the world know to suggest right Gems. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Dreams Unlimiteds <dreams_unlimiteds wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, >  > I have been reading this discussion and trying my best to understand with my limited..(very > limited understanding). Since i havent reached anywhere near as people like you.. most of attempt to understand the discussions here are based on trying to figure out my chart. >  > I am kumbha lagna and as per my limited understanding.. venus being the lord of 9th house s both my bhadhalesh and yogakarka. And is in my 7th house (maraka sathan) with sun(lord of house). Now while surfing i come across various sites, wherein they mention that kumbha lagna should never wear pukhraaj (yellow saphire) as its lord of 2nd house and 11th house. (somewhere its mention that its related to death. tht is if th dasha of death going on its very risky.) though i m wearing a pookhraaj and feel that i have seen rise in professional and financial status post wearing it. > But then again the various websites mention that kumbha lagan should always wear diamond as it wil bring good luck and favor in almost all facets of life. personal, professional and financial. Now my dilemna is that venus is both badhalesh and yogakarka for my ascendant. > Well this is attemp just to understand more about charts or my ascendant where one planet is both badhalesh and yogakarka, would be glad to hear thoughts of learn memebers like you on this. >  > and my apologies if i have misspell or misquoted anything. >  > Warm regards, > rajesh > --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for career? > > Thursday, April 8, 2010, 1:23 AM > > >  > > > > > For at least 4 signs the 9th house is considered to be a badhak > sthana... Hows this to be re-conciled ? Can we have some explanation as > this is an area which is a little weak for one to understand. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " kiran.rama " > <kiran.rama@ ...> wrote: > > > > There is no contradiction > > > > 9th lord by virtue of only considering factor '9th lord' is one of the > most auspiscious. But there are other factors that may colour this. > > > > Only if we can see effects of each variable separately in isolation > can we understand how multiple variables interact to provide an effect > > > > > Thanks > > Kiran > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In the previous mail You mention - > > > > > > " 9th lord is one of the most auspiscious planets in the horoscope " > > > > > > So this mail contradicts the previous one. Whats the explanations ? > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " kiran.rama " > > > <kiran.rama@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Badhaka, Functional Malefic/Benefic are some of the most abused > terms > > > in jyotish > > > > > > > > Folks feel that just because a planet lords inauspicious houses, > it > > > will give bad results and vice-versa > > > > A Saturn who is the lord of a trine like 9th house will not become > a > > > Jupiter just because he lords a good house > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kiran > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Saturn becomes debilitated in Lagna for Aries Asc. > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@ > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H > be > > > good for career? > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 1:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri senthil, > > > > > I am not sure abt ur statement " for mesha lagna 10thlord becomes > > > > > bahdaka " . Here I would like to mention is mesha lagna lord mars > > > > > gets its exaltation in makara ruled by saturn and also stars > > > involved > > > > > are uttradam, sravanam and avittam. How come the house lord > > > becomes > > > > > a badhaka for mesha lagna? Maybe learned members can share their > > > > > thoughts on this thread. > > > > >  > > > > > regards, > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in > 10H be > > > good for career? > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 11:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopu ji > > > > >      I agree with you but not for mesha > lagna > > > since 10th lord is badhaka also.Sasa yoga will be powerful for all > > > lagnas except mesha..All my friends having sasa yoga are running > > > business well except those two. > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong. > > > > > thanks & regards > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 6/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in > 10H be > > > good for career? > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 7:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri senthil, > > > > > In ur friend's case u have said he had failures in buisness > though > > > saturn > > > > > and kethu in 10th from lagna. His failures in buisness is > basically > > > due > > > > > to the 7th house lord and he also is the IInd lord ie venus. if > he > > > is > > > > > weak he cannot be successful in buisness. So he will be more > > > > > successful in service if his 6th lord is strong. > > > > > saturn being the 11th lord also will give him only beneficial > gains. > > > > > in the IInd case he has maintaining a vehicle parking stand > which > > > once > > > > > again is saturn in the 10th house which deals with people and > metals > > > > > like iron. Of course without knowing the aspects and details of > the > > > chart > > > > > it will be difficult to attribute only to saturn. > > > > > In my mail I have said that saturn in 10th without any > connection to > > > > > Sun the person will be powerful behind the curtain leading the > > > masses. > > > > >  > > > > > regards, > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be > > > good for career? > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sunday, April 4, 2010, 6:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopu ji & Basker ji > > > > >         Two of my friends born > in > > > mesha lagna have sat and ketu in 10th.Both are civil engineers.One > is > > > vastu consultant and the other owns a bike parking stand.Even though > the > > > vastu man is university first ,he failed alot in his business as a > > > builder.Now he is a vastu consultant and earns alot.Is it because > sat is > > > badhaga posited in 10th spoils their career? > > > > > thanks and regards > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in > 10H be > > > good for career? > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sunday, 4 April, 2010, 12:52 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > saturn in the 10th with no connection and the native has a > strong > > > > > lagna, then the native will lead the masses,he may not come to > > > > > power but yet he will have a power over the masses like a person > > > > > who acts behind the curtain and yet influencing the ruling > power. > > > > > I am sharing my thoughts, though u are an expert. > > > > >  > > > > > regards, > > > > > k.gopu > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: How can Sa/Ke in 10H be > > > good for career? > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Sunday, April 4, 2010, 12:44 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some simple Queries, please enlighten with your knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Saturn is also the Lord of the 11th of gains in the natural > Kala > > > > > purusha Chart. It can give superb gains at times for a person > worthy > > > of > > > > > same. Please contradict this argument. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Saturn in 10th is natural house for Saturn. But what about > the > > > Sun ? > > > > > The Sun connected to 10th gives Political powers impacting > miilions > > > of > > > > > people. The Sun in 10th makes a Doctor helping thousands of > > > patients. > > > > > What difference can you envisage , delineate and enumerate > between > > > the > > > > > results of the Sun in the 10th and the Saturn in the 10th. > > > > > > > > > > Kindly acknowledge please. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " kiran.rama " > > > > > <kiran.rama@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa stands for longevity/death, sorrows/emotional > suffering/karmic > > > > > debts, delay/denial, paralysis, tedious work, Spriituality/ > > > detachment > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke stands for ascetism/detachment , moksha, pyschic > > > ability/metaphysics > > > > > > > > > > > > 10H stands for fame/honour, career/profession, dharma/life > > > purpose, > > > > > good deeds/activities that benefit society > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that Sa in 10H means person will have a great > career > > > > > possibly impacting thousands of people. This can only happen if > the > > > > > career is spiritual - same with Ke in 10H > > > > > > Can Sa/Ke in 10H be good for a materialistic career? - like > > > success in > > > > > job, business etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Only reasoning I feel behind Sa/Ke in 10H are: > > > > > > 1. Significations of 10H and Sa/Ke that match - in this case > > > > > spirituality/ detchment etc > > > > > > 2. Malefic energy welcomed in 10H > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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