Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Dear Members, PS: Priyaji, I didn't address this post to you directly as I know how busy you are, but you are very welcome to comment if you like. The 'Bhav Spasht' technique that Priyaji uses is very intriguing for me. It totally changes the natal chart configuration. When I think about it, it makes sense in some cases: a) In normal horoscope all houses are considered of the same size, which may not be the case; as per some thinkers, the universe is 'Andakar', neither round (circular), nor elliptical as was originally thought. b) If a planet is in early childhood (between 0 to 2 degrees) or extreme old age (28 to 30 degrees), they may actually fall in another house depending upon the house. I tried looking this up in search engines and on Jyotish sites, but could not find any description on this. [1] Can someone clarify as to what is 'Bhav Spasht' and how is it worked out ? [2] Is there a software or an algorithm that can be used for calculating Bhav Spasht ? [3] Is this a new technique or has been used in ancient jyotish scriptures as well ? Thanks, Anshev B. Bhardwejj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear Anshev ji, Bhava Spasta is also known as Bhava Chalit. Latter is more popular name. It has been an integral part of Vedic astrology always. There are many methods of house divisions but recommended by seers is equal house division system. In it Asc. rising degree is taken as the centre of all the houses and 15 degrees before this point and 15 degrees after is one house.For instance, if asc.falls at 11 degrees then 15 degrees plus and minus will be the area/length of the house. I believe it should be extensively used, criticised and developed. You are welcome for any further query. Best regards Jai On 6/15/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb wrote: Dear Members,PS: Priyaji, I didn't address this post to you directly as I knowhow busy you are, but you are very welcome to comment if you like. The 'Bhav Spasht' technique that Priyaji uses is very intriguing forme. It totally changes the natal chart configuration. When I thinkabout it, it makes sense in some cases:a) In normal horoscope all houses are considered of the same size, which may not be the case; as per some thinkers, the universeis 'Andakar', neither round (circular), nor elliptical as wasoriginally thought.b) If a planet is in early childhood (between 0 to 2 degrees) or extreme old age (28 to 30 degrees), they may actually fall inanother house depending upon the house.I tried looking this up in search engines and on Jyotish sites, butcould not find any description on this. [1] Can someone clarify as to what is 'Bhav Spasht' and how is itworked out ?[2] Is there a software or an algorithm that can be used forcalculating Bhav Spasht ?[3] Is this a new technique or has been used in ancient jyotish scriptures as well ?Thanks,Anshev B. Bhardwejj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear Anshev ji, There are almost half a dozen different methods to calculate a Bhav or a house or LK Khana. The two most commonly used by Indian astrologers are : [ 1 ] Ptolemaic system or modus equalis or the equal house system and [ 2 ] Porphyry's system or unequal house system. The unequal house system is slightly difficult to calculate and one needs to know Medium Coeli { MC }. Most of us who started learning astrology couple of decades ago worked with the unequal house system. There could be arguments for and against both the systems. But greater logic is behind the equal house system . I use the equal house system. All systems world over use the house system in one form or the other. In the west the longitude of the ascendant is considered as the beginning of the house where as in Indian system it is the mid-point of the house or bhav madhya. From this mid point the house spreads to 15 degrees on either side. The concept of house system is very old. I know of a documented evidence of detailed calculations for the house division written by Mahendrasuri who was a court pandit with Feroz Shah Tuglaq. By shak samvat 1400 , Makarand paddhati and Grahlaghav paddhati had become so popular that panchangs based on them were brought from Banares and Ujjain. I am not aware of any software which calculates these houses based on the Nirayan system. Yes for the western sayan system , www.astro.com has quite a few options for house division. Sincerely, Priya lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote: > Dear Anshev ji, > Bhava Spasta is also known as Bhava Chalit. Latter is more popular name. It > has been an integral part of Vedic astrology always. > There are many methods of house divisions but recommended by seers is equal > house division system. In it Asc. rising degree is taken as the centre of > all the houses and 15 degrees before this point and 15 degrees after is one > house.For instance, if asc.falls at 11 degrees then 15 degrees plus and > minus will be the area/length of the house. I believe it should be > extensively used, criticised and developed. > You are welcome for any further query. > Best regards > Jai > > On 6/15/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > PS: Priyaji, I didn't address this post to you directly as I know > > how busy you are, but you are very welcome to comment if you like. > > > > The 'Bhav Spasht' technique that Priyaji uses is very intriguing for > > me. It totally changes the natal chart configuration. When I think > > about it, it makes sense in some cases: > > > > a) In normal horoscope all houses are considered of the same size, > > which may not be the case; as per some thinkers, the universe > > is 'Andakar', neither round (circular), nor elliptical as was > > originally thought. > > b) If a planet is in early childhood (between 0 to 2 degrees) or > > extreme old age (28 to 30 degrees), they may actually fall in > > another house depending upon the house. > > > > I tried looking this up in search engines and on Jyotish sites, but > > could not find any description on this. > > > > [1] Can someone clarify as to what is 'Bhav Spasht' and how is it > > worked out ? > > [2] Is there a software or an algorithm that can be used for > > calculating Bhav Spasht ? > > [3] Is this a new technique or has been used in ancient jyotish > > scriptures as well ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Anshev B. Bhardwejj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Dear friend, Further to it, it can be used as very good system for natal-transit planetary influence on dating/houring events,works more surprisingly. with best wishes, P K Tripathy. --- Jai Nahata <jaynahata wrote: > Dear Anshev ji, > Bhava Spasta is also known as Bhava Chalit. Latter > is more popular name. It > has been an integral part of Vedic astrology always. > There are many methods of house divisions but > recommended by seers is equal > house division system. In it Asc. rising degree is > taken as the centre of > all the houses and 15 degrees before this point and > 15 degrees after is one > house.For instance, if asc.falls at 11 degrees then > 15 degrees plus and > minus will be the area/length of the house. I > believe it should be > extensively used, criticised and developed. > You are welcome for any further query. > Best regards > Jai > > On 6/15/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb > wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > PS: Priyaji, I didn't address this post to you > directly as I know > > how busy you are, but you are very welcome to > comment if you like. > > > > The 'Bhav Spasht' technique that Priyaji uses is > very intriguing for > > me. It totally changes the natal chart > configuration. When I think > > about it, it makes sense in some cases: > > > > a) In normal horoscope all houses are considered > of the same size, > > which may not be the case; as per some thinkers, > the universe > > is 'Andakar', neither round (circular), nor > elliptical as was > > originally thought. > > b) If a planet is in early childhood (between 0 to > 2 degrees) or > > extreme old age (28 to 30 degrees), they may > actually fall in > > another house depending upon the house. > > > > I tried looking this up in search engines and on > Jyotish sites, but > > could not find any description on this. > > > > [1] Can someone clarify as to what is 'Bhav > Spasht' and how is it > > worked out ? > > [2] Is there a software or an algorithm that can > be used for > > calculating Bhav Spasht ? > > [3] Is this a new technique or has been used in > ancient jyotish > > scriptures as well ? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Anshev B. Bhardwejj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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