Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Dear Anshev, [ 1 ] Normally upaya are suggested for the running year , because the planet placement will change for the next year. Even for a problem of cronic nature the upaya might be different. Take your own case : I have suggested that you offer a handful of wheat at a temple for three days. This interesting upaya is to place the Sun where it could be under the aspect of the Saturn so that the Venus is saved. Next year again if we need to save the Venus we might have to devise a new upaya depending upon the placement of the planets. [ 2 ] The piece of silver has to be square in shape , therefore wearing it as a chain wouldn't serve the purpose. Yes you can wear it round your neck during this birth year. [ 3 ] Keeping the mud on the roof is a very interesting upaya. If the saturn is in the 8th and the 12th happens to be empty , the saturn will be 'manda'. The logic of the upaya is that the mud from under the water is Venus. Keeping it on the roof is the 12th house. Venus is a friend of the Saturn and in the 12th house Venus is exalted. The roof { 12th house } means under the open sky. Therefore the mud has to be kept under the open sky. sincerely, Priya lalkitab , " Anshev B Bhardwejj " <anshevb> wrote: > Dear Priyaji, > > Thanks for your analysis. Due to your knowledge and helpful nature, > it's a priviledge to have someone like you amongst us... > > A few things I would like clarification for: > > 1) In your analysis there are quite a few references of the Varsha > Phala and I'm assuming that many of the upayas are suggested based > on the VP. The Varsh for this nativity will end in Nov (5 months), > but the upayas that are sought are for long term (more or less life > long)... Are these upayas going to be effective on the long term > basis or just for next few months ? > > 2) Keeping a piece of silver on person: Would wearing a piece of > silver jewellery (silver chain) or a silver ring suffice ? > > 3) Keep a little mud taken out of a pond from under water: Can this > be kept in the attic ? > > > Regards, > Anshev B. Bhardwejj > > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya <bhooshanpriya> > wrote: > > Dear Anshev ji, > > > > > > Like the other charts I had done for you , first lets take a look > at the planetary placement after Bhav spashtha. > > > > 1st house : rahu > > > > 2nd house : Saturn > > > > 7th house : Ketu > > > > 8th house : Jupiter & Venus > > > > 9th house : Sun , Moon & Mercury > > > > 11th house : Mars > > > > > > > > Marital happiness : > > > > > > > > Lets find out why should Venus be behaving ` manda'. > > > > [ a ] In the Janma Kundali venus is placed in the 8th house " jali > > > > mitti ki halata stree ; sakhta swabhav " > > > > [ b ] It is placed in the 9th in Varsh Phal : " mitti kali andhi > … > > > > bhagya ke sambandh mein kali mitti ki andhi " > > > > [ c ] When moon is with mercury the result of venus will be `manda' > > > > [ d ] The Saturn and the sun are in 6-8 relationship { takarav }, > both in the JK and VP , and ill effects of this `takarav' will be > passed on to the venus { scapegoat}by the Saturn and the sun will > pass on to Ketu. Since the Ketu is in the 5th [ VP ] , gurusthan , > it will be saved. > > > > Therefore the Venus has to bear the brunt. > > > > > > > > Upaya : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a little honey in a silver dibbi with 9 small silver > pieces immersed in it. > > > > [ 2 ] Ask your wife to wear silver bangle painted red on the out > side. > > > > [ 3 ] Offer a handful of wheat at any temple for 3 days regularly. > > > > > > > > Success : > > > > > > > > [ a ] The Sun is with mercury in the 9th in JK : the book says, " > > > > surya ka manda prabhav jor par hoga jab budh ka saath ho ; peetal > ke > > > > bare bartan budh ka zahar hatayenge " > > > > > > > > upaya : Keep big brass utensils at home. They should not be kept > upside down. > > > > > > > > Contentment : > > > > > > > > A happy married life and a comfortable flow of money would make > any life contended . Your moon is with mercury . > > > > If the Moon is either with Mercury or under its aspect ; or > in `takarav' position with Ketu the book says, > > > > " ab chandra ke samudra ka paani sirf itna hi hoga jo ek kutta ya > > > > bher bakari pee kar khatma kar de " the financial position will > > > > improve after the 48th year. > > > > > > > > About the Moon and Mercury combination the book further says, " > dono > > > > aise gharon mein hon jahan budh ka phal kisi tarah nikamma ho raha > ho > > > > to Chandra ka sansari phal bhi nikamma or kharab hi hoga " > > > > > > > > In order to reduce the poison of budh do this upaya: > > > > > > > > Offer nine mushrooms kept in an earthen pot at any temple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stability : > > > > > > > > In the Varsh Phal the Saturn is distressed by being in a 6-8 { > shadashtak}position to not only the sun and moon but with the mars > as well. > > > > > > > > Upaya : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a piece of silver with you. > > > > [ 2 ] Keep on the roof a little mud taken out of a pond from under > water. > > > > > > > > Harmony and Peace : > > > > > > > > The position of the moon has already been discussed earlier. We > > > > should have a look at the Rahu also. Rahu causes " insaani dimag > mein > > > > khwabi lahar aur kyasi khayalat ki nakl-o-harqat " > > > > In your case, it appears, it could be rahu also which might > cause worries . > > > > The book says : > > > > " khana # 1 se 6 par sund ka prabhav , yani budh ka prabhav > jaisa > > > > bhi teve ke anusar , janma kundali ya varsh phal , ke hisab ho > raha > > > > ho " > > > > In your case the rahu of the 1st is in the 6th in varsha phal > therefore the mercury in the 3rd [ VP ] decides the nature of > Rahu. " man ashaant ho yani man ki shanti barbaad ho rahi ho " > > > > > > > > Upaya : > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a little rice at home in a silver dibbi. > > > > [ 2 ] keep a goli of lead { a metal }with you. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Respected Priya Ji, In the example, why do we choose the mud, and not just soil, as these are both Venus. Thanks, Iqbalbhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya wrote: Dear Anshev,[ 1 ] Normally upaya are suggested for the running year , because the planet placement will change for the next year. Even for a problem of cronic nature the upaya might be different. Take your own case : I have suggested that you offer a handful of wheat at a temple for three days. This interesting upaya is to place the Sun where it could be under the aspect of the Saturn so that the Venus is saved. Next year again if we need to save the Venus we might have to devise a new upaya depending upon the placement of the planets.[ 2 ] The piece of silver has to be square in shape , therefore wearing it as a chain wouldn't serve the purpose. Yes you can wear it round your neck during this birth year.[ 3 ] Keeping the mud on the roof is a very interesting upaya. If the saturn is in the 8th and the 12th happens to be empty , the saturn will be 'manda'. The logic of the upaya is that the mud from under the water is Venus. Keeping it on the roof is the 12th house. Venus is a friend of the Saturn and in the 12th house Venus is exalted. The roof { 12th house } means under the open sky. Therefore the mud has to be kept under the open sky.sincerely,Priyalalkitab , "Anshev B Bhardwejj" <anshevb> wrote:> Dear Priyaji,> > Thanks for your analysis. Due to your knowledge and helpful nature, > it's a priviledge to have someone like you amongst us...> > A few things I would like clarification for:> > 1) In your analysis there are quite a few references of the Varsha > Phala and I'm assuming that many of the upayas are suggested based > on the VP. The Varsh for this nativity will end in Nov (5 months), > but the upayas that are sought are for long term (more or less life > long)... Are these upayas going to be effective on the long term > basis or just for next few months ?> > 2) Keeping a piece of silver on person: Would wearing a piece of > silver jewellery (silver chain) or a silver ring suffice ?> > 3) Keep a little mud taken out of a pond from under water: Can this > be kept in the attic ?> > > Regards,> Anshev B. Bhardwejj> > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya <bhooshanpriya> > wrote:> > Dear Anshev ji,> > > > > > Like the other charts I had done for you , first lets take a look > at the planetary placement after Bhav spashtha. > > > > 1st house : rahu> > > > 2nd house : Saturn> > > > 7th house : Ketu> > > > 8th house : Jupiter & Venus> > > > 9th house : Sun , Moon & Mercury> > > > 11th house : Mars> > > > > > > > Marital happiness :> > > > > > > > Lets find out why should Venus be behaving ` manda'. > > > > [ a ] In the Janma Kundali venus is placed in the 8th house " jali > > > > mitti ki halata stree ; sakhta swabhav"> > > > [ b ] It is placed in the 9th in Varsh Phal : " mitti kali andhi > … > > > > bhagya ke sambandh mein kali mitti ki andhi"> > > > [ c ] When moon is with mercury the result of venus will be `manda'> > > > [ d ] The Saturn and the sun are in 6-8 relationship { takarav }, > both in the JK and VP , and ill effects of this `takarav' will be > passed on to the venus { scapegoat}by the Saturn and the sun will > pass on to Ketu. Since the Ketu is in the 5th [ VP ] , gurusthan , > it will be saved.> > > > Therefore the Venus has to bear the brunt.> > > > > > > > Upaya :> > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a little honey in a silver dibbi with 9 small silver > pieces immersed in it.> > > > [ 2 ] Ask your wife to wear silver bangle painted red on the out > side.> > > > [ 3 ] Offer a handful of wheat at any temple for 3 days regularly.> > > > > > > > Success :> > > > > > > > [ a ] The Sun is with mercury in the 9th in JK : the book says, " > > > > surya ka manda prabhav jor par hoga jab budh ka saath ho ; peetal > ke > > > > bare bartan budh ka zahar hatayenge"> > > > > > > > upaya : Keep big brass utensils at home. They should not be kept > upside down.> > > > > > > > Contentment :> > > > > > > > A happy married life and a comfortable flow of money would make > any life contended . Your moon is with mercury . > > > > If the Moon is either with Mercury or under its aspect ; or > in `takarav' position with Ketu the book says, > > > > " ab chandra ke samudra ka paani sirf itna hi hoga jo ek kutta ya > > > > bher bakari pee kar khatma kar de" the financial position will > > > > improve after the 48th year.> > > > > > > > About the Moon and Mercury combination the book further says, " > dono > > > > aise gharon mein hon jahan budh ka phal kisi tarah nikamma ho raha > ho > > > > to Chandra ka sansari phal bhi nikamma or kharab hi hoga"> > > > > > > > In order to reduce the poison of budh do this upaya:> > > > > > > > Offer nine mushrooms kept in an earthen pot at any temple.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stability :> > > > > > > > In the Varsh Phal the Saturn is distressed by being in a 6-8 { > shadashtak}position to not only the sun and moon but with the mars > as well.> > > > > > > > Upaya :> > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a piece of silver with you.> > > > [ 2 ] Keep on the roof a little mud taken out of a pond from under > water.> > > > > > > > Harmony and Peace :> > > > > > > > The position of the moon has already been discussed earlier. We > > > > should have a look at the Rahu also. Rahu causes " insaani dimag > mein > > > > khwabi lahar aur kyasi khayalat ki nakl-o-harqat" > > > > In your case, it appears, it could be rahu also which might > cause worries .> > > > The book says :> > > > " khana # 1 se 6 par sund ka prabhav , yani budh ka prabhav > jaisa > > > > bhi teve ke anusar , janma kundali ya varsh phal , ke hisab ho > raha > > > > ho"> > > > In your case the rahu of the 1st is in the 6th in varsha phal > therefore the mercury in the 3rd [ VP ] decides the nature of > Rahu. " man ashaant ho yani man ki shanti barbaad ho rahi ho"> > > > > > > > Upaya :> > > > [ 1 ] Keep a little rice at home in a silver dibbi.> > > > [ 2 ] keep a goli of lead { a metal }with you.> > > > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > > Priya> > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear anshev , The 'chikni mitti' from under the water is less likely to get washed away than the ordinary soil. However , keep it tied in a piece of white cloth. Yes you might have to replace it when it gets washed away. sincerely, Priya lalkitab , " Anshev B Bhardwejj " <anshevb> wrote: > Dear Priyaji, > > These are very interesting upayas and very innovative.. but on the > practical(implementation) side of things, the mud/soil from > pond/lake would easily wash off in rain.. Would it have to be > replaced when it gets washed off ? > > Thanks, > Anshev B. Bhardwejj > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > > Dear Anshev, > > > > [ 1 ] Normally upaya are suggested for the running year , because > the > > planet placement will change for the next year. Even for a problem > of > > cronic nature the upaya might be different. Take your own case : I > > have suggested that you offer a handful of wheat at a temple for > > three days. This interesting upaya is to place the Sun where it > could > > be under the aspect of the Saturn so that the Venus is saved. Next > > year again if we need to save the Venus we might have to devise a > new > > upaya depending upon the placement of the planets. > > > > [ 2 ] The piece of silver has to be square in shape , therefore > > wearing it as a chain wouldn't serve the purpose. Yes you can wear > it > > round your neck during this birth year. > > > > [ 3 ] Keeping the mud on the roof is a very interesting upaya. If > the > > saturn is in the 8th and the 12th happens to be empty , the saturn > > will be 'manda'. The logic of the upaya is that the mud from under > > the water is Venus. Keeping it on the roof is the 12th house. > Venus > > is a friend of the Saturn and in the 12th house Venus is exalted. > > The roof { 12th house } means under the open sky. Therefore the > mud > > has to be kept under the open sky. > > > > sincerely, > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Anshev B Bhardwejj " > <anshevb> > > wrote: > > > Dear Priyaji, > > > > > > Thanks for your analysis. Due to your knowledge and helpful > nature, > > > it's a priviledge to have someone like you amongst us... > > > > > > A few things I would like clarification for: > > > > > > 1) In your analysis there are quite a few references of the > Varsha > > > Phala and I'm assuming that many of the upayas are suggested > based > > > on the VP. The Varsh for this nativity will end in Nov (5 > months), > > > but the upayas that are sought are for long term (more or less > life > > > long)... Are these upayas going to be effective on the long term > > > basis or just for next few months ? > > > > > > 2) Keeping a piece of silver on person: Would wearing a piece of > > > silver jewellery (silver chain) or a silver ring suffice ? > > > > > > 3) Keep a little mud taken out of a pond from under water: Can > this > > > be kept in the attic ? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Anshev B. Bhardwejj > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , bhooshan priya > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Anshev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Like the other charts I had done for you , first lets take a > look > > > at the planetary placement after Bhav spashtha. > > > > > > > > 1st house : rahu > > > > > > > > 2nd house : Saturn > > > > > > > > 7th house : Ketu > > > > > > > > 8th house : Jupiter & Venus > > > > > > > > 9th house : Sun , Moon & Mercury > > > > > > > > 11th house : Mars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marital happiness : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets find out why should Venus be behaving ` manda'. > > > > > > > > [ a ] In the Janma Kundali venus is placed in the 8th house " > > jali > > > > > > > > mitti ki halata stree ; sakhta swabhav " > > > > > > > > [ b ] It is placed in the 9th in Varsh Phal : " mitti kali > andhi > > > … > > > > > > > > bhagya ke sambandh mein kali mitti ki andhi " > > > > > > > > [ c ] When moon is with mercury the result of venus will be > > `manda' > > > > > > > > [ d ] The Saturn and the sun are in 6-8 relationship { > takarav }, > > > both in the JK and VP , and ill effects of this `takarav' will > be > > > passed on to the venus { scapegoat}by the Saturn and the sun > will > > > pass on to Ketu. Since the Ketu is in the 5th [ VP ] , > gurusthan , > > > it will be saved. > > > > > > > > Therefore the Venus has to bear the brunt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a little honey in a silver dibbi with 9 small > silver > > > pieces immersed in it. > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Ask your wife to wear silver bangle painted red on the > out > > > side. > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] Offer a handful of wheat at any temple for 3 days > regularly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Success : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ a ] The Sun is with mercury in the 9th in JK : the book > says, " > > > > > > > > surya ka manda prabhav jor par hoga jab budh ka saath ho ; > peetal > > > ke > > > > > > > > bare bartan budh ka zahar hatayenge " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upaya : Keep big brass utensils at home. They should not be > kept > > > upside down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contentment : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A happy married life and a comfortable flow of money would > make > > > any life contended . Your moon is with mercury . > > > > > > > > If the Moon is either with Mercury or under its aspect ; or > > > in `takarav' position with Ketu the book says, > > > > > > > > " ab chandra ke samudra ka paani sirf itna hi hoga jo ek > kutta > > ya > > > > > > > > bher bakari pee kar khatma kar de " the financial position will > > > > > > > > improve after the 48th year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About the Moon and Mercury combination the book further > says, " > > > dono > > > > > > > > aise gharon mein hon jahan budh ka phal kisi tarah nikamma ho > > raha > > > ho > > > > > > > > to Chandra ka sansari phal bhi nikamma or kharab hi hoga " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In order to reduce the poison of budh do this upaya: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Offer nine mushrooms kept in an earthen pot at any temple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stability : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Varsh Phal the Saturn is distressed by being in a 6-8 { > > > shadashtak}position to not only the sun and moon but with the > mars > > > as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a piece of silver with you. > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Keep on the roof a little mud taken out of a pond from > > under > > > water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harmony and Peace : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The position of the moon has already been discussed earlier. > We > > > > > > > > should have a look at the Rahu also. Rahu causes " insaani > dimag > > > mein > > > > > > > > khwabi lahar aur kyasi khayalat ki nakl-o-harqat " > > > > > > > > In your case, it appears, it could be rahu also which might > > > cause worries . > > > > > > > > The book says : > > > > > > > > " khana # 1 se 6 par sund ka prabhav , yani budh ka prabhav > > > jaisa > > > > > > > > bhi teve ke anusar , janma kundali ya varsh phal , ke hisab > ho > > > raha > > > > > > > > ho " > > > > > > > > In your case the rahu of the 1st is in the 6th in varsha phal > > > therefore the mercury in the 3rd [ VP ] decides the nature of > > > Rahu. " man ashaant ho yani man ki shanti barbaad ho rahi ho " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya : > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Keep a little rice at home in a silver dibbi. > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] keep a goli of lead { a metal }with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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