~Blue sapphire~~ Jai ji and Priya SP ji

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Namaskar Jai ji and Priya SP ji,

 

Priya ji, as per the birth chart details given by you, Sh. Amitabh

Bachchan's Lagna works out to be Kumbha (Aquarius), for whom the

Saturn is a benefic. Infact, in his chart, Saturn is the strongest

planet and is well placed. Also, he was in a Saturn Mahadasha

between Dec 30, 1970 to Dec 30, 1989. This time would have seen a

good rise in his career and affairs of 4th house as well. If he was

wearing Sapphire, all benefic things would have been enhanced.

 

As per the details given by you, Ms. Rai's asdt. works out to be

Virgo at 10.10 degrees. For Virgos, Saturn is not a benefic planet

so I wonder if the chart I made was wrong as you said that Ms. Rai

has experienced benefic effects after wearing Sapphire.

 

As per Jai ji's message, Ms. Rai's asdt. is Thula (Libra).. for

Libra asdt., Saturn is a benefic and hence Sapphire would have

helped.

 

Jai ji, Thanks for your info. and encouragement, but according to

SA, in general, Saturn is a benefic for Scorpio Lagna (lord of 4th

house), so Sapphire would be helpful (depending upon the dynamics of

the chart of course).

 

Regards,

Anshev B. Bhardwejj

[Guest guest]

Dear Anshev ji,

It was very nice to see you active in the group after some time lag. Please dont let us miss you again here.

Regarding gems I never take anything on macro levels and suggest. To

suggest any gem one should be very cautious. Suppose in Taurus Asc.

Saturn is in 10th. Based on this dynamic configuration should we

suggest somebody to wear Sapphire. In many a cases we all have found

that this type of approach has lead to disasters. Coming back to the

example further suppose same Saturn is in Aries navamsha in 8th house.

Now what will it be if the person wears gem. He will soon be ruined

after seeing sudden affluence for some time initially. This is just a

simple example how on micro levels planets change their effects. Here

we could have far more complex configurations.

Now lets understand how gems work. Gems work on simple principle of

reflection of light. When we see some colour it means that surface is

absorbing all other light waves but reflecting that particular colour's

waves. In the same way when we wear a particular gem it absorbs all

other waves but reflects that particular light and hence empowers that

particular planet. This also replies to the myth that gems works both

ways. They just amplify effects of the particular planet.

We should wear gems only of blemish free planet which rarely happens.

So this is my humble advice to be very cautious about the gems.

Best regards

 

Jai

 

On 6/16/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb wrote:

Namaskar Jai ji and Priya SP ji,Priya ji, as per the birth chart details given by you, Sh. AmitabhBachchan's Lagna works out to be Kumbha (Aquarius), for whom theSaturn is a benefic. Infact, in his chart, Saturn is the strongest

planet and is well placed. Also, he was in a Saturn Mahadashabetween Dec 30, 1970 to Dec 30, 1989. This time would have seen agood rise in his career and affairs of 4th house as well. If he waswearing Sapphire, all benefic things would have been enhanced.

As per the details given by you, Ms. Rai's asdt. works out to beVirgo at 10.10 degrees. For Virgos, Saturn is not a benefic planetso I wonder if the chart I made was wrong as you said that Ms. Raihas experienced benefic effects after wearing Sapphire.

As per Jai ji's message, Ms. Rai's asdt. is Thula (Libra).. forLibra asdt., Saturn is a benefic and hence Sapphire would havehelped.Jai ji, Thanks for your info. and encouragement, but according to

SA, in general, Saturn is a benefic for Scorpio Lagna (lord of 4thhouse), so Sapphire would be helpful (depending upon the dynamics ofthe chart of course).Regards,Anshev B. Bhardwejj

 

[Guest guest]

Respected Jai, Anshev Ji,

 

For Taurus ascendant then, if Venus is in 6th house and Saturn in 3rd house - what is impact of using blue sapphire and diamond?

 

Respectfully,

 

IqbalJai Nahata <jaynahata wrote:

Dear Anshev ji,It was very nice to see you active in the group after some time lag. Please dont let us miss you again here.Regarding gems I never take anything on macro levels and suggest. To suggest any gem one should be very cautious. Suppose in Taurus Asc. Saturn is in 10th. Based on this dynamic configuration should we suggest somebody to wear Sapphire. In many a cases we all have found that this type of approach has lead to disasters. Coming back to the example further suppose same Saturn is in Aries navamsha in 8th house. Now what will it be if the person wears gem. He will soon be ruined after seeing sudden affluence for some time initially. This is just a simple example how on micro levels planets change their effects. Here we could have far more complex configurations.Now lets understand how gems work. Gems work on simple principle of reflection of light. When we

see some colour it means that surface is absorbing all other light waves but reflecting that particular colour's waves. In the same way when we wear a particular gem it absorbs all other waves but reflects that particular light and hence empowers that particular planet. This also replies to the myth that gems works both ways. They just amplify effects of the particular planet.We should wear gems only of blemish free planet which rarely happens. So this is my humble advice to be very cautious about the gems.Best regardsJai

On 6/16/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb wrote:

Namaskar Jai ji and Priya SP ji,Priya ji, as per the birth chart details given by you, Sh. AmitabhBachchan's Lagna works out to be Kumbha (Aquarius), for whom theSaturn is a benefic. Infact, in his chart, Saturn is the strongest planet and is well placed. Also, he was in a Saturn Mahadashabetween Dec 30, 1970 to Dec 30, 1989. This time would have seen agood rise in his career and affairs of 4th house as well. If he waswearing Sapphire, all benefic things would have been enhanced. As per the details given by you, Ms. Rai's asdt. works out to beVirgo at 10.10 degrees. For Virgos, Saturn is not a benefic planetso I wonder if the chart I made was wrong as you said that Ms. Raihas experienced benefic effects after wearing Sapphire. As per Jai ji's message, Ms. Rai's asdt. is Thula (Libra).. forLibra

asdt., Saturn is a benefic and hence Sapphire would havehelped.Jai ji, Thanks for your info. and encouragement, but according to SA, in general, Saturn is a benefic for Scorpio Lagna (lord of 4thhouse), so Sapphire would be helpful (depending upon the dynamics ofthe chart of course).Regards,Anshev B. Bhardwejj

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Dear Jai ji,

 

Thanks for your kind words. It's a pleasure discussing things with

you and learning from your vast knowledge.

 

I agree with you about treating Gems with respect and taking advise

of a learned person before wearing them. Some learned persons opine

that Yantras work better than Gems in many ways as they are cheaper

as well as have a certain degree of tolerance than gems do.

 

Jai ji, In this example that you gave, I am not able understand as

to why wearing a Sapphire for someone with Taurus lagna and having

Saturn in 10th be bad ? Here, Saturn is in its mooltrikon, so it'd

be strong by its placement and if it happens to be weak due to

infancy or old age, wouldn't wearing blue Sapphire be beneficial as

it'd strengthen weak benefic Saturn ? (unless your empirical

knowledge shows against it - In that case, please share this and its

reasoning with us).

 

If Saturn is in neech rashi (Aries), in 8th house, the asdt. would

be Virgo. In that case wearing blue Sapphire is not recommened

because of the reason that Saturn is malefic (lord of 6th).

 

If Saturn is in Aries (neech), for Saggitarius asdt., Aries would

fall in 5th house, wearing blue Sapphire would be beneficial in

general sense... as far as I know..

 

I have never heard about considering divisional charts while

prescribing gems... but perhaps we can hear from your experience in

this matter, if you would like to share.

 

Regards,

Anshev B. Bhardwejj

[Guest guest]

Dear Iqbal ji,

 

The rule of thumb in this case is:

 

1) The functional benefics can be strengthened without much harm by

default. One has to analyze the chart in details to see which planet

would give maximum benefit if strengthened by wearing associated

stone.

 

2) The functional malefics should not be strengthened by default by

wearing the associated Gem, unless they are not afflicting any of

the houses or planets. This has to be analyzed by analyzing the

chart in details.

 

Now, let me try to answer your question in details:

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As per System's approach of analysis, Taurus Lagna charts have Venus

and Jupiter as functional malefics because Libra falls in 6th and

Sagittarius falls in the 8th house of the chart. These planets are

otherwise first class benefics, but for Taurus lagna, they turn

malefic functionally.

 

On the other hand, Saturn, a natural malefic, turns functional

benefic for Taurus lagna. Not just benefic, but a Yogakaraka because

Saturn rules a Kendra house and a trikon (trine) – 10th and 9th. As

the speed of Saturn is slow, it gives long-lived happy events. The

Saturn Mahadashas and Antardashas are generally beneficial (keeping

in mind the position of Saturn and any afflictions to it).

 

Venus, the lord of 6th, if weak, denotes weak physical health. Venus

in Libra is in its own mooltrikon house, rendering it powerful, but

due to its placement in 6th, it has some weakness to it. Generally,

in this situation, the native may suffer from weak venous system.

You did not give degrees of the planets or houses, so it's hard to

comment on other dynamics of this planetary placement in details.

(such as weakness due to infancy or old age)

 

Strengthening Venus by wearing a diamond will strengthen the

significations of Venus such as material comforts, wife, worldly

knowledge and pursuits, creativity, art and rich tastes, but since

Venus is also 6th lord, if Venus happens to afflict any houses or

planets, the afflicted planets/houses will suffer much more. This

cannot be commented upon as we did not get the chart details. If it

is afflicting any houses/planets, its best to propitiate it rather

than strengthen it.

 

Therefore, by default I wouldn't advise the Taurus native to wear

diamond but in specific cases, it may be advised if Venus was not

causing afflictions to any houses or any other planets by aspect or

association. (Need to know full chart for certain answer)

 

Strengthening Saturn, by wearing a blue Sapphire, on the other hand,

would be beneficial, as strong well placed Saturn blesses the native

with persistence ensuring success. If Saturn happens to be weak in

this case, blue Sapphire would benefit the otherwise ordinary

profession and obstructions in life.

 

Sign Aquarius in 10th house makes Taurus people technical and if

Saturn is strong/strengthened at the proper time in the life, and

other planets are strong, that may make the native pursue a

technical/Engineering course.

 

Hope I was able to make myself clear.

 

Regards,

Anshev B. Bhardwejj

[Guest guest]

Dear Anshev ji,

 

Thank you so much for your motivaton and appreciation.

 

Regarding the query I maintain that any chart should be analysed in entirety. Is it possible to have someone without soul ? Same applies to application of Navamsha. Well in that example I meant saturn to be in navamsha in Aries in 8th.

 

In my experience I have observed that navamsha must be utilised in all the predictive purposes including Gems and Yantras. It has weightage of more than 60 per cent in analysis. Currently I am working on some very minute divisions as I have serious curiosity about twins and some other minute but complicated questions.Lets hope for the best.

I will welcome any further queries on the subject. Here I would suggest to put queries in a series form which will be easier to answer.

 

Best regards

 

Jai

On 6/17/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb wrote:

Dear Jai ji,Thanks for your kind words. It's a pleasure discussing things withyou and learning from your vast knowledge.

I agree with you about treating Gems with respect and taking adviseof a learned person before wearing them. Some learned persons opinethat Yantras work better than Gems in many ways as they are cheaper

as well as have a certain degree of tolerance than gems do.Jai ji, In this example that you gave, I am not able understand asto why wearing a Sapphire for someone with Taurus lagna and havingSaturn in 10th be bad ? Here, Saturn is in its mooltrikon, so it'd

be strong by its placement and if it happens to be weak due toinfancy or old age, wouldn't wearing blue Sapphire be beneficial asit'd strengthen weak benefic Saturn ? (unless your empiricalknowledge shows against it - In that case, please share this and its

reasoning with us).If Saturn is in neech rashi (Aries), in 8th house, the asdt. wouldbe Virgo. In that case wearing blue Sapphire is not recommenedbecause of the reason that Saturn is malefic (lord of 6th).

If Saturn is in Aries (neech), for Saggitarius asdt., Aries wouldfall in 5th house, wearing blue Sapphire would be beneficial ingeneral sense... as far as I know..I have never heard about considering divisional charts while

prescribing gems... but perhaps we can hear from your experience inthis matter, if you would like to share.Regards,Anshev B. Bhardwejj

[Guest guest]

~~Dear Anshev ji and Jai ji~~

 

I feel fortunate to have started this topic, as We all have got such

beautiful posts from Expert friends.Wonderful privilege for learners.

My request to Jai ji or rather all the experts, apart from analysing

charts , Plz keep posting on such various topics.

 

Anshev ji regarding Ms Aishwarya Rai and Mr Bachchan,I have learnt

it from various magazines and the details regarding the births were

collected from the net.How far they r right i don't know,but we really

had very nice enlightening posts.

 

~Regards~

 

Priya SP.

 

 

lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> Dear Anshev ji,

> Thank you so much for your motivaton and appreciation.

> Regarding the query I maintain that any chart should be analysed in

> entirety. Is it possible to have someone without soul ? Same applies to

> application of Navamsha. Well in that example I meant saturn to be in

> navamsha in Aries in 8th.

> In my experience I have observed that navamsha must be utilised in

all the

> predictive purposes including Gems and Yantras. It has weightage of

more

> than 60 per cent in analysis. Currently I am working on some very

minute

> divisions as I have serious curiosity about twins and some other

minute but

> complicated questions.Lets hope for the best.

> I will welcome any further queries on the subject. Here I would

suggest to

> put queries in a series form which will be easier to answer.

> Best regards

> Jai

>

> On 6/17/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jai ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your kind words. It's a pleasure discussing things with

> > you and learning from your vast knowledge.

> >

> > I agree with you about treating Gems with respect and taking advise

> > of a learned person before wearing them. Some learned persons opine

> > that Yantras work better than Gems in many ways as they are cheaper

> > as well as have a certain degree of tolerance than gems do.

> >

> > Jai ji, In this example that you gave, I am not able understand as

> > to why wearing a Sapphire for someone with Taurus lagna and having

> > Saturn in 10th be bad ? Here, Saturn is in its mooltrikon, so it'd

> > be strong by its placement and if it happens to be weak due to

> > infancy or old age, wouldn't wearing blue Sapphire be beneficial as

> > it'd strengthen weak benefic Saturn ? (unless your empirical

> > knowledge shows against it - In that case, please share this and its

> > reasoning with us).

> >

> > If Saturn is in neech rashi (Aries), in 8th house, the asdt. would

> > be Virgo. In that case wearing blue Sapphire is not recommened

> > because of the reason that Saturn is malefic (lord of 6th).

> >

> > If Saturn is in Aries (neech), for Saggitarius asdt., Aries would

> > fall in 5th house, wearing blue Sapphire would be beneficial in

> > general sense... as far as I know..

> >

> > I have never heard about considering divisional charts while

> > prescribing gems... but perhaps we can hear from your experience in

> > this matter, if you would like to share.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Anshev B. Bhardwejj

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

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priya ji,

 

hello

well we should be thankful to you for starting this topic for i also

learnt a lot about gems from jai ji's post, thanks jai ji now i will

also consider D-9 before suggesting gems,well amitabh bachchan has

thula navamsh and his saturn is in 9th in navamsh,this speaks for his

recovery after wearing sapphire.

 

one more thing aishwarya rai was born in the morning 6 am at a place

near mangalore , and her lagna comes out to be thula, navamsh kumbh.

 

 

NISHANT

-- In lalkitab , " priyaa_s_p " <priyaa_s_p> wrote:

> ~~Dear Anshev ji and Jai ji~~

>

> I feel fortunate to have started this topic, as We all have got such

> beautiful posts from Expert friends.Wonderful privilege for

learners.

> My request to Jai ji or rather all the experts, apart from

analysing

> charts , Plz keep posting on such various topics.

>

> Anshev ji regarding Ms Aishwarya Rai and Mr Bachchan,I have learnt

> it from various magazines and the details regarding the births were

> collected from the net.How far they r right i don't know,but we

really

> had very nice enlightening posts.

>

> ~Regards~

>

> Priya SP.

>

>

> lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:

> > Dear Anshev ji,

> > Thank you so much for your motivaton and appreciation.

> > Regarding the query I maintain that any chart should be analysed

in

> > entirety. Is it possible to have someone without soul ? Same

applies to

> > application of Navamsha. Well in that example I meant saturn to

be in

> > navamsha in Aries in 8th.

> > In my experience I have observed that navamsha must be utilised in

> all the

> > predictive purposes including Gems and Yantras. It has weightage

of

> more

> > than 60 per cent in analysis. Currently I am working on some very

> minute

> > divisions as I have serious curiosity about twins and some other

> minute but

> > complicated questions.Lets hope for the best.

> > I will welcome any further queries on the subject. Here I would

> suggest to

> > put queries in a series form which will be easier to answer.

> > Best regards

> > Jai

> >

> > On 6/17/05, Anshev B Bhardwejj <anshevb> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jai ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your kind words. It's a pleasure discussing things

with

> > > you and learning from your vast knowledge.

> > >

> > > I agree with you about treating Gems with respect and taking

advise

> > > of a learned person before wearing them. Some learned persons

opine

> > > that Yantras work better than Gems in many ways as they are

cheaper

> > > as well as have a certain degree of tolerance than gems do.

> > >

> > > Jai ji, In this example that you gave, I am not able understand

as

> > > to why wearing a Sapphire for someone with Taurus lagna and

having

> > > Saturn in 10th be bad ? Here, Saturn is in its mooltrikon, so

it'd

> > > be strong by its placement and if it happens to be weak due to

> > > infancy or old age, wouldn't wearing blue Sapphire be

beneficial as

> > > it'd strengthen weak benefic Saturn ? (unless your empirical

> > > knowledge shows against it - In that case, please share this

and its

> > > reasoning with us).

> > >

> > > If Saturn is in neech rashi (Aries), in 8th house, the asdt.

would

> > > be Virgo. In that case wearing blue Sapphire is not recommened

> > > because of the reason that Saturn is malefic (lord of 6th).

> > >

> > > If Saturn is in Aries (neech), for Saggitarius asdt., Aries

would

> > > fall in 5th house, wearing blue Sapphire would be beneficial in

> > > general sense... as far as I know..

> > >

> > > I have never heard about considering divisional charts while

> > > prescribing gems... but perhaps we can hear from your

experience in

> > > this matter, if you would like to share.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Anshev B. Bhardwejj

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >