temple at home- pt. Bhooshanpriya ji/protocol

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Dear sleekhas ji,

in all these years for houses with jupiter in natal chart, jupiter

comes to house no 7 in varshphal. Sir, we have a protocol here. you

come up with an opening statement regarding what your views are.

then others can reply confirming or sending in their objections.

such straight questions can be countless. so please send in your

inputs first or your doubts and the resons for the same. what do

you think is a bhed in it and how is this bhed not decoded in

bhushanpriya ji's message. earlier also u replied in a single line

that entry of air in a house will clear my doubts regarding budh in

dahleez /chaukhat. i send my reply but still i am waiting ur

response.

kulbir

 

In lalkitab , " sleekhas " <sleekhas wrote:

>

> Dear Bhooshan ji,

>

> Thanks a ton, for clearing doubts only one question, if natives

> jupiter in following houses what would be the effect if he happens

> to keep temple in house for the respective years,

>

> Jupiter in house no 1=years 7/19/31/43.

> Jupiter in house no 2=years 8/20/32/41.

> Jupiter in house no 3=years 9/24/36/48.

>

> so on, i am talking on the basis of birth chart and vershphal.

>

> Request you to kindly take this as an question and request for

> guidence we all here for noble cause to decode the bhed not to

> create controversy.

>

> regards,

> shamender leekha

>

>

>

>

> lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> wrote:

> >

> > this article on temple in house in files section of lalkitab

> remedies answers all possible questions and explains all logics

> rationally.

> > Pooja ghar in a home

> >

> >

> > Lal Kitab is not against a pooja ghar in a house. The book is

> against “ rihayshee makaan mein

> moortiyan rakh kar poore taur se mandir sthapit karlena , pooja ki

> ghantiyon ke bajay lavaldi ka ghanta baja dengi.†A temple, in

the

> formal sense {a place for public gathering and collective pooja},

> with ‘ghanta and ghariyal’, in the house will harm the progeny.

> >

> > The restriction is on a formal temple { poore taur se mandir }

in

> the house or converting a house into a temple, specially for a

> person with Jupiter in the 7th house.

> >

> > Incidentally such a restriction is also imposed even by the

Hindu

> Shastras when it instructs that any idol kept in a pooja ghar of

the

> house should not be more than 14 angul { 7 inches } tall.

> >

> > In the case of two instances, the book suggests that too much

of

> ritualistic religiosity might affect the family and the home.

> Therefore the statement should be taken as a suggestion, rather

than

> a dictum, against too much of religiosity for the fear it might

> result in the neglect of the native’s duties and commitments

> towards his wife and the family. This suggestion or a warning, if

> you may, is given only to a Male and not to a female. Women folk

in

> India have always been more religious than men and have always

been

> able to strike a balance between their religiosity and the duties

> towards the home and the family.

> >

> > If there were any inherent loss in having a pooja ghar in the

> house, the Lal Kitab would have suggested for both men and women

not

> to establish a pooja ghar in the house.

> >

> > Lal Kitab semi-literates in order to sound different from the

> Vedic system suggest such a sensational and extreme step of

removing

> idols from a pooja ghar; resulting into a disastrous emotional

> trauma for quite a few families.

> >

> > Let’s first decide what would be called a ‘temple’? Is it

a

> corner, a niche, or an almirah in the house which is either called

a

> pooja ghar , pooja sthan , or at times loosely called a

> ‘mandir’ ? Invariably it will have a few idols of Gods who

have

> been worshipped as a family tradition, an aarti deepak , an

> agarbatti stand, a few books like Ram Charit Manas , Gita or

Hanuman

> Chalisa and a pooja bell.

> >

> > Or a temple is a place for public gathering and collective

pooja?

> Definitely a pooja ghar in the house is not a temple in that sense.

> >

> > Temple will always be a place for public gathering, where a

pooja

> is conducted, for the collected mass, with elaborate rituals along

> with all its trappings.

> >

> > Is the Lal Kitab against a pooja ghar in the house?

> >

> > NO, on the contrary to what Lal Kitab novices believe, the book

> advises to have a pooja ghar in the house.

> >

> > [ 1 ] While designating the directions in the house the book

> says , “ paani ki zagah , pooja-path, uttar poorv kone meinâ€

> >

> > [ 2 ] While identifying a house with a planet : for a house of

> Jupiter the book says , “ ho sakta hai peepal ka darakhta ya koi

> dharm sthan , mandir masjid gurudwara makaan mein ya makaan ke

> bilkul sath hi hoâ€

> >

> > If a pooja ghar in a house was considered as something

> inauspicious, a house in which there is a pooja sthan would not

have

> been identified as a house of Jupiter. Jupiter according to the

Lal

> Kitab is the most auspicious and a benefic planet.

> >

> > Now then where from all these misgivings about the pooja sthan

in

> the house sprout from? The misunderstanding arose through a

literal

> meaning of couplets in the context of two planets.

> >

> > { A } For Jupiter in the 7th house the book says,

> > ( i ) “ dharma , mala ,thaili na parivaar degiâ€

> > ( ii ) “ rakha ghar mein mandir , na parivaar degaâ€

> >

> > If we take these lines at their literal meaning it would imply

> that Lal Kitab is against religiosity, jaap, and even a mandir in

> the house. If either of these things are adopted or adhered to

there

> will be no ‘ parivar’ family.

> >

> > Now try to read the same lines in the context of the following:

> The book describes a native with Jupiter in the 7th house;

> >

> > “ pichhale janma ka sadhu , jo janma se hi tapasya ke liye

> jangal mein nahi gaya, aur grahastha mein raja Janak ki tarah

> sanyasi sadhu ……. Dharma karya ka mukhiya , dharma ka jhhanda

> har samay hath mein uthaye huye†..

> >

> > A sadhu of the previous birth, who in this birth entered the

> family life, instead of going to a forest for meditation, like

King

> Janak. { Janak is known as videh, one who is not attached to any

> thing }. He will be leader in religious activities, one who is a

> standard bearer of religion.

> >

> > Now, the same couplet, quoted above, would appear as a warning

> against neglecting the duties of the ‘grahasth dharma’ and

hence

> a very wise and a practical advice. A person who from birth itself

> and because of the karma from his previous life might be too much

> inclined towards religious practices, this religiosity will make

his

> family life hell if he continues to follow religious practices

with

> the same fervor.

> >

> > The 7th house represents ‘grahasth’, therefore the couplet

> above calls upon such a male person not to ignore his commitments

to

> the family by devoting hours in ritualistic pooja.

> >

> > Let’s talk about the logic now.

> >

> > 7th house, in kalpurush kundali, belongs to Venus. It is a pakka

> ghar of mercury and venus , and both of them are enemies of

Jupiter.

> Too much of Jupiterian activity or Jupiterian assertion here will

> bring it into conflict with both mercury and Venus, resulting in

the

> loss of either or all of the three. The 7th house is ‘kaam

> kshetra , grahasth bhav’ and should , under no circumstances,

be

> neglected because it is one of the four ashrams on which the

rhythm

> of life is based.

> >

> > It is with this in mind, the book suggests that a male person

> having Jupiter in the 7th house should observe moderation in his

> religiosity and avoid too much of ritualistic pooja path.

> >

> > Jupiter in the 7th house is in a shadashtak { 6-8 } position

from

> the 2nd house. The second house apart from representing

accumulated

> wealth also represents ‘ kutumb’ the family. This house again

> belongs to venus. Any over enthusiastic Jupiterian activity from

the

> 7th will get it into confrontation with the 2nd house and might

> result in the loss of the significations of the 2nd house.

> >

> > { B } A similar advice is given to a person with Moon in the 2nd

> house.

> >

> >

> > “ lage bajne ghariyal mandir jo ghar meinâ€

> > “ bajaa denge ghanta lavaldi ka ghar meinâ€

> > “ band na nasla teve hogi , yog manda aulad khwah hoâ€

> > “ virsa milega ghar ka zaroori, cheezen Chandra jab rakhata

hoâ€

> >

> > The warning again is for zealous religiosity indicated through

the

> word ‘ghariyal’ or gongs. Traditionally in common parlance

words

> ‘ghanta †" ghariyal , dhol-majeera’ have been associated with

> over enthusiastic religiosity. Once again the book suggests that

if

> one takes to ‘ghanta ghariyal’in pooja it might cause a

neglect

> towards the ‘grahastha dharma’ resulting in no child ‘

> lavaldi’

> >

> > Here again some Lal Kitab followers go to the extreme of

advising

> not to have a pooja ghar in the house and not only that some of

them

> go a step further in suggesting not to have any shiv-ling or shiv

> idol in the house. The presiding deity of the moon is Lord Shiv.

> >

> > Let’s once again look at the logic of such an advice for the

> moon in the 2nd house.

> > Moon in the 2nd is considered as exalted and is likely to

> encourage enthusiastic religiosity. Venus, the owner of the house,

> is likely to get depressed by such activity. Remember the venus

> considers the moon as its enemy.

> >

> > Here again the moon is in the shadashtak { 6-8 } relationship to

> the 7th house owned by venus and a pakka ghar of venus and

mercury

> both. Both of them consider the moon as their enemy. Over

> enthusiastic religiosity, under the influence of the moon, is

likely

> to irritate both the venus and the mercury.

> >

> > Another reason for not using ‘ghanta-ghariyal’{ flat metal

> disk generally found in the schools announcing the hour †"

> ghanta } in a pooja at home is because it is made of 80% bronze

+10%

> brass +10% other metal. Beating bronze { venus} could affect the

> family life.

> >

> > I agree that a place for a formal temple, a place for public

> gathering and collective pooja, should not be in a house. Such a

> temple is bound to adversely affect the family life and the

> commitments towards the family. Such temples were always

constructed

> out side of a village. Both a temple and a shamshan {both moksha

> sthan } should always be outside and away from the village.

> >

> > Finally, worshipping the family Gods can never harm the family,

> Lal Kitab or no Lal Kitab. The Gods that have been traditionally

> worshipped in a family are the protectors and guardians of the

> family. Therefore the worship of the family deities is a dharm of

> each grahasth and should be continued.

> >

> > Summarizing, the Lal Kitab is not against any pooja ghar in a

> house under any circumstances. The lal Kitab appears to be against

> converting a house into a temple.

> > It is in this context, for two planetary placements, it advises

to

> exercise restraint on over-zealous religiosity lest it should

> destroy the peace and harmony in the family.

> >

> > Bhooshan Priya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> >

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