Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Respected Sleekha Sir Thank you for your explaination. However, I have one curiousity. I understand Shamshan refers to Eight house and therefore how does the upaya it relate to 4th house? Is it becuase of buniyaad concept i.e. 5-9 position relating to each other? I look forward to hear from you. Best regards AVS --- lalkitab wrote: Discussion on Lal Kitab & Remedies Discussion on Lal Kitab & Remedies Messages In This Digest (1 Message) 1a. Re: Query regarding Upaya sleekhas View All Topics | Create New Topic Message 1a. Re: Query regarding Upaya Posted by: " sleekhas " sleekhas sleekhas Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:30 am (PST) this upaya is correct. i) the method is on the basis of taking saturn into house no 4 (i.e of chander) Jhehan papai paap na karney ki kasam khatey hai. ii) 4 days upaya means taking/shifting of saturn to house no 4 iii) 4 x 4 = 16 pcs, one full round of all 12th house and then sitting in 4 th house. iv) actually the basic theory is of 40 days, 12 house 3 rounds and then taking/shifting of enemic planet to 4 th house. as its malik and pucca ghar is of MOON. jo kisi sey dushmani nahin kerta. and is also (shiv) malik of umer and chandi ke sikko ki khanak. 3 days are given as grace period. but the upayas are to checked very carefully before prescribing. lalkitab , Indian Astrologer <avsastrologer wrote: > > Respected Gurus > > I have been learning and practicing Vedic astrology. > However, I am very impressed with the methodology > discovered and developed by Late Sh. Roop Chand Joshi > Ji to interprete the results and therfore I am > learning this as well. > > I have come across a book ARUN SAMHITA LAL KITAB - > CHATURTHA BHAG. In the chapter for SHANI (Saturn), it > has given an upaya in the very begining - " MUKADAME > DUSHMANI DAR SEHAT CHHUTKAARE KE LIYE 4 BADAM FENKE " > (To get rid of legal cases, apprehensions, poor health > matters throw FOUR almonds for FOUR days in cremation > ground from outside its boundary). > > As I understand, LAL KITAB prescribes upayas for > FOURTY days for serious problems. Therefore, is the > FOUR days prescription correct? > > Please let me know if there is any flaw in the text I > read or my interpretation is wrong. > > Thanking you > > Regards > > AVS > > > Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity 15 New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Ads on Learn more now. Reach customers searching for you. Lawn & Garden on For all things green and growing. Need to Reply? Click one of the " Reply " links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. Create New Topic | Visit Your Group on the Web Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Calendar Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Individual | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Groups Terms of Use | Un Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it on http://in.promos./groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 the theory of 40 days explained was on the basic concept of upaya's treatment. whether it is for sat 8 th or other planets in any of the house. the upaya is for to nulify the bad effect. i) sat 8 th house the malik of this house is mars and pacca ghar is of mar and sat. with mar sat will be slept or vise versa. when the house is bad burdened then the need of weakening up of house is required. for wakening up of houses no 2/4/8 support of chander is required. ii) if go by deep concept of lal kitab every planet can be or would be connected with chander in any aspect. mother (chander) birth giver of this universe it extends family by giving birth to budh (ladki) and with its blessing shuker(wife) gives phal of ketu (aulad) and on later stage shuer (wife) becomes chander (mother). if gives support of brihsapat (father) to expanding its family. and give coolness to sun (sehat). and cooles down saturn (night) by giving light. it also allows mar (mangal) to merg with budh (ladki) and allows it to become shuker. the second line i.e. rahu (sasural) and ketu (aulad) are melefic for chander but chander does not give any bad effect to any one. whenever shuker/budh/ketu are in bad shape the moon will prefer to keep mum or will take every bad aspect on itself. iii) the theory explained in lk says 28 naksheter and 12 rashi will result in 40 days of upaya. if deepens our thought it will tell all the planets are to be shifted in house no 4 where every planet will be cooled down. same theory apply to upayas of 100 days also 12 house X 8 rounds = 96 and 4 will be house no 4 of chander. iv) the 35 years chaker does not have any explanation in lk if we go through it it will opens it bhed. lalkitab , Indian Astrologer <avsastrologer wrote: > > Respected Sleekha Sir > > Thank you for your explaination. However, I have one > curiousity. I understand Shamshan refers to Eight > house and therefore how does the upaya it relate to > 4th house? Is it becuase of buniyaad concept i.e. 5-9 > position relating to each other? > > I look forward to hear from you. > > Best regards > > AVS --- lalkitab wrote: > > > > Discussion on Lal Kitab & Remedies > Discussion on Lal Kitab & Remedies > Messages In This Digest (1 > Message) > > 1a. > Re: Query regarding Upaya sleekhas > > View All Topics | Create New Topic > > Message > 1a. > Re: Query regarding Upaya > Posted by: " sleekhas " > sleekhas > sleekhas Fri Feb 22, > 2008 5:30 am (PST) this > upaya is correct. > > i) the method is on the basis of taking saturn into > house no 4 (i.e > of chander) Jhehan papai paap na karney ki kasam > khatey hai. > > ii) 4 days upaya means taking/shifting of saturn to > house no 4 > > iii) 4 x 4 = 16 pcs, one full round of all 12th house > and then > sitting in 4 th house. > > iv) actually the basic theory is of 40 days, 12 house > 3 rounds and > then taking/shifting of enemic planet to 4 th house. > as its malik > and pucca ghar is of MOON. jo kisi sey dushmani nahin > kerta. and is > also (shiv) malik of umer and chandi ke sikko ki > khanak. 3 days are > given as grace period. > > but the upayas are to checked very carefully before > prescribing. > > lalkitab , Indian Astrologer > <avsastrologer@> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurus > > > > I have been learning and practicing Vedic astrology. > > > However, I am very impressed with the methodology > > discovered and developed by Late Sh. Roop Chand > Joshi > > Ji to interprete the results and therfore I am > > learning this as well. > > > > I have come across a book ARUN SAMHITA LAL KITAB - > > CHATURTHA BHAG. In the chapter for SHANI (Saturn), > it > > has given an upaya in the very begining - " MUKADAME > > DUSHMANI DAR SEHAT CHHUTKAARE KE LIYE 4 BADAM FENKE " > > (To get rid of legal cases, apprehensions, poor > health > > matters throw FOUR almonds for FOUR days in > cremation > > ground from outside its boundary). > > > > As I understand, LAL KITAB prescribes upayas for > > FOURTY days for serious problems. Therefore, is the > > FOUR days prescription correct? > > > > Please let me know if there is any flaw in the text > I > > read or my interpretation is wrong. > > > > Thanking you > > > > Regards > > > > AVS > > > > > > Save all your chat conversations. 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