Lal kitaab - rationale on some forbidden things

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Dear Learned astrologers

 

via this post i want to request for some of your valuable inputs/research  on LK

, which may help new comers like us to understand this stream with scientific

outlook.

 

in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of planet...

like

 

1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house etc

 

the query is

 

1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how buying

leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then why

only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

 

similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other elements

of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

 

May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh after

reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of things

i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind these

things.

 

Your inputs shall be of great help

 

regards

Mohit

 

 

Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

 

 

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-Dear Mohitji,

Similarly, Mars 1 have the following prediction:

 

1.He wins favours from the government and victory against the enemies without

much effort.

2.Association of Saturn with Mars provides physical trouble to the native.

 

Remedies

(1) Avoid the acceptance of things free of cost or in charity.

(2) Association with saints and Faqirs will prove very harmful.

 

These predictions are understandable and can be rationalised.

In the general prediction when mars in 1st position, which denotes personality,

we attribute, martian character to the native. and if in such a position ,

saturn is associated, saturn who is known as punckhoo(handicapped), will give

them physical trouble. A warrior who is smart in walk and attractive while

marching, is also becoming a handicapped in the fight and war.Thus a soldier

with a stiff physical attributes at some times also becomes a handicapped person

at later part of life is understandble.

 

Similarly association with saints and fakirs will make a person docile , peace

loving, forgive all attitude is against the rulthless ,eye for eye attitude of

marshall can be understood.

 

Again, saturn in 6 is also soldier's attribute as per chamatkar chintamani.

Paying a price for what he can otherwise get by virtue of his sword, will be a

slur on the position of saturn.( if you put a question why at all for this

particular item of saturn , may be a sample is given - you may apply for any of

saturn also- i think so -

 

In the case of moon in 12, is symbolic of charitable person and a person by

nature does many philonthrophic acts and one among them is educational charity.

Moon as lord of 4 -education and also asset- in 12 is viraya sthan and perhaps

his charitable disposition will make him give away his entire wealth towards the

cause of education. In life we have many such philonthrophists who have given

away the entire asset for the cause of education and their won successors have

nothing left as patrimony.

 

Venus in 9 is a position that makes a person to commit many lustrous crimes and

white ( color symbol for sukra)and cow is also venus respresentation will only

augment the power of venus and will only compound the negative luxuries .

 

It is good to understand the positive energies and negative energies of the

planets and use them to the requirement.

 

madhavan chari

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In lalkitab , Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg wrote:

>

> Dear Learned astrologers

>  

> via this post i want to request for some of your valuable inputs/research  on

LK , which may help new comers like us to understand this stream with scientific

outlook.

>  

> in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of planet...

like

>  

> 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

> 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house etc

>  

> the query is

>  

> 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then

why only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

>  

> similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

>  

> May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh after

reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of things

i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind these

things.

>  

> Your inputs shall be of great help

>  

> regards

> Mohit

>

>

> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

>

>

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Respected Madhvan Ji,

 

Very good, you have clear my mind also. your suggestion is " Anmol " .

Thanks

Chetan Sud

lalkitab , " Madhavan " <chims45 wrote:

>

> -Dear Mohitji,

> Similarly, Mars 1 have the following prediction:

>

> 1.He wins favours from the government and victory against the enemies without

much effort.

> 2.Association of Saturn with Mars provides physical trouble to the native.

>

> Remedies

> (1) Avoid the acceptance of things free of cost or in charity.

> (2) Association with saints and Faqirs will prove very harmful.

>

> These predictions are understandable and can be rationalised.

> In the general prediction when mars in 1st position, which denotes

personality, we attribute, martian character to the native. and if in such a

position , saturn is associated, saturn who is known as punckhoo(handicapped),

will give them physical trouble. A warrior who is smart in walk and attractive

while marching, is also becoming a handicapped in the fight and war.Thus a

soldier with a stiff physical attributes at some times also becomes a

handicapped person at later part of life is understandble.

>

> Similarly association with saints and fakirs will make a person docile , peace

loving, forgive all attitude is against the rulthless ,eye for eye attitude of

marshall can be understood.

>

> Again, saturn in 6 is also soldier's attribute as per chamatkar chintamani.

Paying a price for what he can otherwise get by virtue of his sword, will be a

slur on the position of saturn.( if you put a question why at all for this

particular item of saturn , may be a sample is given - you may apply for any of

saturn also- i think so -

>

> In the case of moon in 12, is symbolic of charitable person and a person by

nature does many philonthrophic acts and one among them is educational charity.

Moon as lord of 4 -education and also asset- in 12 is viraya sthan and perhaps

his charitable disposition will make him give away his entire wealth towards the

cause of education. In life we have many such philonthrophists who have given

away the entire asset for the cause of education and their won successors have

nothing left as patrimony.

>

> Venus in 9 is a position that makes a person to commit many lustrous crimes

and white ( color symbol for sukra)and cow is also venus respresentation will

only augment the power of venus and will only compound the negative luxuries .

>

> It is good to understand the positive energies and negative energies of the

planets and use them to the requirement.

>

> madhavan chari

-- In lalkitab , Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned astrologers

> >  

> > via this post i want to request for some of your valuable inputs/research 

on LK , which may help new comers like us to understand this stream with

scientific outlook.

> >  

> > in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of

planet... like

> >  

> > 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> > 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

> > 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house

etc

> >  

> > the query is

> >  

> > 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then

why only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

> >  

> > similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

> >  

> > May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh after

reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of things

i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind these

things.

> >  

> > Your inputs shall be of great help

> >  

> > regards

> > Mohit

> >

> >

> > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

> >

> >

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dear mohit

 

the concept is on the basis of unch greh and neech greh placed in neech ghar and

unch ghar

 

lal kitab basic says, result of greh will depend upon its placement in different

houses.

 

very first chapter, if an star is palced in its freindly house then its effect

will enhance, if reverse then either stars result or house result get ruined.

 

this ruination will depend upon the malafic strenth of star or strenth of house

(gher ka malik greh)

 

next if u keep things related to particular star(beneficiary) in your house it

will enhance its good effect, and for bad stars it will enhance its bad effect.

 

In following all examples, we are trying to keep or buying things related to

malefic stars which will result in bad effect only.

 

Sat 6 th the major vaham is for new shoes only, as sat in 6 can see backward in

house no 2. by buying leather(sat) shoe (for ketu) will directly effect house no

2 which is related to shuker (wife) and Jupiter(respect) nayey jootey sir per

padengey

 

 

Rationale: very simple, keep things related to your good stars avoid keeping

goods related to bad star in house or in person. Do not ask how to know what is

good or what is bad, refer to books greh ki watueyen khanawar cheezey, khanawar

sambandi etc etc

 

Cow: this book is always talk about extreme things (refer first few pages )

zayada nuksaan ki bateyen ki gayi hai, aam cheezon ka waham nahin kiya hai.

 

If u see the sat in 6th then it specially talk about shoe of leather. Leather

(sat) and shoe (for ketu) it says shani ki nayi cheez payon (ketu) ke liyey na

lee jayey. Similarly cow in shuker house no 9th here it says mangal bad

 

 

……….2…………….

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg wrote:

>

> Dear Learned astrologers

>  

> via this post i want to request for some of your valuable inputs/research  on

LK , which may help new comers like us to understand this stream with scientific

outlook.

>  

> in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of planet...

like

>  

> 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

> 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house etc

>  

> the query is

>  

> 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then

why only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

>  

> similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

>  

> May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh after

reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of things

i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind these

things.

>  

> Your inputs shall be of great help

>  

> regards

> Mohit

>

>

> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

http://beta.cricket.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mohit ji & Friends,

 

Leekha ji answered your questions beautifully. I want to make one important

point here. Lal Kitab is an indicative astrology and you need to verify the

effect of planets before suggesting/ performing any remedy. A planet looking

badly positioned in your chart may give good result and you need to verify

the nature before concluding good/ bad results of the planet.

 

One lagna remains for two hours on an average. So all people born during

those two hours will have same Lal Kitab kundli. Moon changes it's sign in

approx 2.5 days which means that during that people on same two hours you

will get the same kundli. Next fastest planet is Mercury that stays in a

sign for 14-30 days, and you will get the same kundli during that period for

those two hours (apart from Moon). So apart from Moon, you will get the same

kundli for around 30-60 hours. Not everyone born during that time will be

having same planets benefic and malefic. You need to verify the nature of

planet by other Lal Kitab suggested tools like asking question, by analysing

makan kundli, my analysing palm kundli etc. before concluding anything.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

 

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:58 AM, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

 

>

>

> dear mohit

>

> the concept is on the basis of unch greh and neech greh placed in neech

> ghar and unch ghar

>

> lal kitab basic says, result of greh will depend upon its placement in

> different houses.

>

> very first chapter, if an star is palced in its freindly house then its

> effect will enhance, if reverse then either stars result or house result get

> ruined.

>

> this ruination will depend upon the malafic strenth of star or strenth of

> house (gher ka malik greh)

>

> next if u keep things related to particular star(beneficiary) in your house

> it will enhance its good effect, and for bad stars it will enhance its bad

> effect.

>

> In following all examples, we are trying to keep or buying things related

> to malefic stars which will result in bad effect only.

>

> Sat 6 th the major vaham is for new shoes only, as sat in 6 can see

> backward in house no 2. by buying leather(sat) shoe (for ketu) will directly

> effect house no 2 which is related to shuker (wife) and Jupiter(respect)

> nayey jootey sir per padengey

>

> Rationale: very simple, keep things related to your good stars avoid

> keeping goods related to bad star in house or in person. Do not ask how to

> know what is good or what is bad, refer to books greh ki watueyen khanawar

> cheezey, khanawar sambandi etc etc

>

> Cow: this book is always talk about extreme things (refer first few pages )

> zayada nuksaan ki bateyen ki gayi hai, aam cheezon ka waham nahin kiya hai.

>

> If u see the sat in 6th then it specially talk about shoe of leather.

> Leather (sat) and shoe (for ketu) it says shani ki nayi cheez payon (ketu)

> ke liyey na lee jayey. Similarly cow in shuker house no 9th here it says

> mangal bad

>

> ……….2…………….

>

>

> lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Mohit Goel

> <mr_mohitg wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned astrologers

> >

> > via this post i want to request for some of your valuable

> inputs/research on LK , which may help new comers like us to understand

> this stream with scientific outlook.

> >

> > in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of

> planet... like

> >

> > 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> > 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some

> child

> > 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the

> house etc

> >

> > the query is

> >

> > 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

> buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn

> then why only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear

> of making saturn angry could stop one buying anything

> >

> > similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

> elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

> >

> > May be my question is very elementory or basic and you all will laugh

> after reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance

> of things i want to understand the correlation and underlying principal

> behind these things.

> >

> > Your inputs shall be of great help

> >

> > regards

> > Mohit

> >

> >

> > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter

> http://beta.cricket.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sleekhasji and Punitji

 

thanks a lot for such beautiful explanation . This will really help in avoiding

the vaham related to day to day life and to accept the knowledge without any

fear.

 

Will incorporate you guidance.

 

One small question : what do to in case some one has vipreet rajyog..means stars

related to 2 houses are positioned in their opposite houses and are not freindly

... eg : Mesh Lagna, Jupitor in 2nd house ( bhav swamy shukar ) and venus in 9th

house ( bhav swamy Jupitor)., Jupitor is not friendly witj shukar .. so when

you increase Jupitor strenght, shukar will be troubled which will hurt your

bhagya.

 

this is just a query to understand things more in depth and to remove vahams

 

 regards

Mohit

 

 

 

 

________________________________

sleekhas <sleekhas

lalkitab

Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 1:58:12 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Lal kitaab - rationale on some forbidden things

 

 

 

 

 

dear mohit

 

the concept is on the basis of unch greh and neech greh placed in neech ghar and

unch ghar

 

lal kitab basic says, result of greh will depend upon its placement in different

houses.

 

very first chapter, if an star is palced in its freindly house then its effect

will enhance, if reverse then either stars result or house result get ruined.

 

this ruination will depend upon the malafic strenth of star or strenth of house

(gher ka malik greh)

 

next if u keep things related to particular star(beneficiary) in your house it

will enhance its good effect, and for bad stars it will enhance its bad effect.

 

In following all examples, we are trying to keep or buying things related to

malefic stars which will result in bad effect only.

 

Sat 6 th the major vaham is for new shoes only, as sat in 6 can see backward in

house no 2. by buying leather(sat) shoe (for ketu) will directly effect house no

2 which is related to shuker (wife) and Jupiter(respect) nayey jootey sir per

padengey

 

Rationale: very simple, keep things related to your good stars avoid keeping

goods related to bad star in house or in person. Do not ask how to know what is

good or what is bad, refer to books greh ki watueyen khanawar cheezey, khanawar

sambandi etc etc

 

Cow: this book is always talk about extreme things (refer first few pages )

zayada nuksaan ki bateyen ki gayi hai, aam cheezon ka waham nahin kiya hai.

 

If u see the sat in 6th then it specially talk about shoe of leather. Leather

(sat) and shoe (for ketu) it says shani ki nayi cheez payon (ketu) ke liyey na

lee jayey. Similarly cow in shuker house no 9th here it says mangal bad

 

……….2…………….

 

lalkitab@ s.com, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Learned astrologers

>  

> via this post i want to request for some of your valuable inputs/research  on

LK , which may help new comers like us to understand this stream with

scientific outlook.

>  

> in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of planet...

like

>  

> 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

> 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house etc

>  

> the query is

>  

> 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then

why only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

>  

> similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

>  

> May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh after

reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of things

i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind these

things.

>  

> Your inputs shall be of great help

>  

> regards

> Mohit

>

>

> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.

cricket.. com

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear mohit ji

 

as told u earlier also, this theory works on postion and strenth of star/house

and malik greh of house.

 

in beneth question the details would be like this

 

 

jupiter in house no 2 (which is of jupiter(pacca ghar) and shuker (malik))

 

shuker in house no 9 (which is of jupiter malik and pacca ghar)

 

in this jupiter is in its own house (pacca ghar) but malik of this house gone

into its own house (9th)now.

 

if you boost jupiter it will give strenth to house no 2 and 9th and will boost

its own effect. when it will boost house no 2nd and 9th will give negative

effect only on shuker as which is in 9th. here we need not to boost jupiter on

shuker needs to be boosted.

 

now see this following example.

 

rahu in house no 2 (shuker and jupiter)

shuker in house no 1 (mangal and sun)

jupiter and sun in 12th (jupiter and rahu)

 

 

here rahu in house no 2 (dharam sathan) will disturb jupiter and sun (both in

house no 12 jupiter and rahu) till the its own age i.e. 42 year)

 

how, rahu in dharam sathan when ever get boosted or become malafic (due to

smoking or bad relations with inlaws) first it will ruine house no 2 (shuker+

jupiter) then it make dhamal in house no 12 (pacca ghar of rahu)where he is

enemy of for both jupiter and sun.

 

now here sun will be under grehan (sun rahu=surya grehan) jupiter gum hoga

(sadhu samadhi mein/sadhu ki kutiya mein hathi gussa)

 

now here jupiter will be deep combusted due to double maar (house no 2 and 12)

 

but sun will be left a little because shuker is in house no 1 of surya, rahu

will leave sun a little because in shuker mushtarka he is part of it. here ketu

can only play a major role

 

here the theory of combined upayas come.

 

1) person should do chup samadhi (for boosting jupiter)

2) one specific upaya is there, ketu ke dorangi patthar (kala safed)ke nag ki

anguthi to roz shuker (cow) ke juthey pani se dhoya jayey aur uske baad mangal

ki cheezo ka daan kiya jayey.

 

here almost all the things get covered. ketu who is upaya karak for rahu (kala

safed patthar ki angothi) shuker (in house no 1) gayey ka jutha pani. the upaya

end here.

 

but here (in this second upaya)we are trying to pacify rahu/shuker but when

shuker get boosted in house no 1 then mangal bahar nikal ker ayega because he is

malik of this house thats why is upaya ke baad mangal ki cheezo ka daan bataya

geya hai.

 

let me clear one thing this is only an example donot take it as an upaya for

this combination because here we have to check the position of ghar to jaganey

waley grehehon ki position also. because when we play with house no 2/4/8 moon

is also to be in consideration because moon is the karak of gher ko jaganey

wala. and house no 2/4 and 10 also cheked for your bank balance of kismat. saath

layi hui kismat.

 

regard,

leekha

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg wrote:

>

> Dear Sleekhasji and Punitji

>

> thanks a lot for such beautiful explanation . This will really help in

avoiding the vaham related to day to day life and to accept the knowledge

without any fear.

>

> Will incorporate you guidance.

>

> One small question : what do to in case some one has vipreet rajyog..means

stars related to 2 houses are positioned in their opposite houses and are not

freindly .. eg : Mesh Lagna, Jupitor in 2nd house ( bhav swamy shukar ) and

venus in 9th house ( bhav swamy Jupitor)., Jupitor is not friendly witj shukar

... so when you increase Jupitor strenght, shukar will be troubled which will

hurt your bhagya.

>

> this is just a query to understand things more in depth and to remove vahams

>

>  regards

> Mohit

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> sleekhas <sleekhas

> lalkitab

> Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 1:58:12 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Lal kitaab - rationale on some forbidden things

>

>

>

>

>

> dear mohit

>

> the concept is on the basis of unch greh and neech greh placed in neech ghar

and unch ghar

>

> lal kitab basic says, result of greh will depend upon its placement in

different houses.

>

> very first chapter, if an star is palced in its freindly house then its effect

will enhance, if reverse then either stars result or house result get ruined.

>

> this ruination will depend upon the malafic strenth of star or strenth of

house (gher ka malik greh)

>

> next if u keep things related to particular star(beneficiary) in your house it

will enhance its good effect, and for bad stars it will enhance its bad effect.

>

> In following all examples, we are trying to keep or buying things related to

malefic stars which will result in bad effect only.

>

> Sat 6 th the major vaham is for new shoes only, as sat in 6 can see backward

in house no 2. by buying leather(sat) shoe (for ketu) will directly effect house

no 2 which is related to shuker (wife) and Jupiter(respect) nayey jootey sir per

padengey

>

> Rationale: very simple, keep things related to your good stars avoid keeping

goods related to bad star in house or in person. Do not ask how to know what is

good or what is bad, refer to books greh ki watueyen khanawar cheezey, khanawar

sambandi etc etc

>

> Cow: this book is always talk about extreme things (refer first few pages )

zayada nuksaan ki bateyen ki gayi hai, aam cheezon ka waham nahin kiya hai.

>

> If u see the sat in 6th then it specially talk about shoe of leather. Leather

(sat) and shoe (for ketu) it says shani ki nayi cheez payon (ketu) ke liyey na

lee jayey. Similarly cow in shuker house no 9th here it says mangal bad

>

> ……….2…………….

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned astrologers

> >  

> > via this post i want to request for some of your valuable inputs/research 

on LK , which may help new comers like us to understand this stream with

scientific outlook.

> >  

> > in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of

planet... like

> >  

> > 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> > 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

> > 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house

etc

> >  

> > the query is

> >  

> > 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then

why only leather..why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

> >  

> > similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

> >  

> > May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh

after reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of

things i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind

these things.

> >  

> > Your inputs shall be of great help

> >  

> > regards

> > Mohit

> >

> >

> > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.

cricket.. com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

Very well explained. I am really thanksful to you.

 

Best of regrads

Ashok Singh

 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

 

 

sleekhas <sleekhas

[lalkitab] Re: Lal kitaab - rationale on some forbidden things

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Dear Leekhaji

 

thanks a lot for such detailed and used ful explanation

 

we look forward for continuous guiding from you in future as well

 

regards

Mohit

 

 

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lalkitab

Saturday, 13 June, 2009 11:26:20 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Lal kitaab - rationale on some forbidden things

 

 

 

 

 

dear mohit ji

 

as told u earlier also, this theory works on postion and strenth of star/house

and malik greh of house.

 

in beneth question the details would be like this

 

jupiter in house no 2 (which is of jupiter(pacca ghar) and shuker (malik))

 

shuker in house no 9 (which is of jupiter malik and pacca ghar)

 

in this jupiter is in its own house (pacca ghar) but malik of this house gone

into its own house (9th)now.

 

if you boost jupiter it will give strenth to house no 2 and 9th and will boost

its own effect. when it will boost house no 2nd and 9th will give negative

effect only on shuker as which is in 9th. here we need not to boost jupiter on

shuker needs to be boosted.

 

now see this following example.

 

rahu in house no 2 (shuker and jupiter)

shuker in house no 1 (mangal and sun)

jupiter and sun in 12th (jupiter and rahu)

 

here rahu in house no 2 (dharam sathan) will disturb jupiter and sun (both in

house no 12 jupiter and rahu) till the its own age i.e. 42 year)

 

how, rahu in dharam sathan when ever get boosted or become malafic (due to

smoking or bad relations with inlaws) first it will ruine house no 2 (shuker+

jupiter) then it make dhamal in house no 12 (pacca ghar of rahu)where he is

enemy of for both jupiter and sun.

 

now here sun will be under grehan (sun rahu=surya grehan) jupiter gum hoga

(sadhu samadhi mein/sadhu ki kutiya mein hathi gussa)

 

now here jupiter will be deep combusted due to double maar (house no 2 and 12)

 

but sun will be left a little because shuker is in house no 1 of surya, rahu

will leave sun a little because in shuker mushtarka he is part of it. here ketu

can only play a major role

 

here the theory of combined upayas come.

 

1) person should do chup samadhi (for boosting jupiter)

2) one specific upaya is there, ketu ke dorangi patthar (kala safed)ke nag ki

anguthi to roz shuker (cow) ke juthey pani se dhoya jayey aur uske baad mangal

ki cheezo ka daan kiya jayey.

 

here almost all the things get covered. ketu who is upaya karak for rahu (kala

safed patthar ki angothi) shuker (in house no 1) gayey ka jutha pani. the upaya

end here.

 

but here (in this second upaya)we are trying to pacify rahu/shuker but when

shuker get boosted in house no 1 then mangal bahar nikal ker ayega because he is

malik of this house thats why is upaya ke baad mangal ki cheezo ka daan bataya

geya hai.

 

let me clear one thing this is only an example donot take it as an upaya for

this combination because here we have to check the position of ghar to jaganey

waley grehehon ki position also. because when we play with house no 2/4/8 moon

is also to be in consideration because moon is the karak of gher ko jaganey

wala. and house no 2/4 and 10 also cheked for your bank balance of kismat. saath

layi hui kismat.

 

regard,

leekha

 

lalkitab@ s.com, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Sleekhasji and Punitji

>

> thanks a lot for such beautiful explanation . This will really help in

avoiding the vaham related to day to day life and to accept the knowledge

without any fear.

>

> Will incorporate you guidance.

>

> One small question : what do to in case some one has vipreet rajyog..means

stars related to 2 houses are positioned in their opposite houses and are not

freindly .. eg : Mesh Lagna, Jupitor in 2nd house ( bhav swamy shukar ) and

venus in 9th house ( bhav swamy Jupitor)., Jupitor  is not friendly witj

shukar .. so when you increase Jupitor strenght, shukar will be troubled

which will hurt your bhagya.

>

> this is just a query to understand things more in depth and to remove vahams

>

>  regards

> Mohit

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .>

> lalkitab@ s.com

> Tuesday, 9 June, 2009 1:58:12 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Lal kitaab - rationale on some forbidden things

>

>

>

>

>

> dear mohit

>

> the concept is on the basis of unch greh and neech greh placed in neech ghar

and unch ghar

>

> lal kitab basic says, result of greh will depend upon its placement in

different houses.

>

> very first chapter, if an star is palced in its freindly house then its effect

will enhance, if reverse then either stars result or house result get ruined.

>

> this ruination will depend upon the malafic strenth of star or strenth of

house (gher ka malik greh)

>

> next if u keep things related to particular star(beneficiary) in your house it

will enhance its good effect, and for bad stars it will enhance its bad effect.

>

> In following all examples, we are trying to keep or buying things related to

malefic stars which will result in bad effect only.

>

> Sat 6 th the major vaham is for new shoes only, as sat in 6 can see backward

in house no 2. by buying leather(sat) shoe (for ketu) will directly effect house

no 2 which is related to shuker (wife) and Jupiter(respect) nayey jootey sir per

padengey

>

> Rationale: very simple, keep things related to your good stars avoid keeping

goods related to bad star in house or in person. Do not ask how to know what is

good or what is bad, refer to books greh ki watueyen khanawar cheezey, khanawar

sambandi etc etc

>

> Cow: this book is always talk about extreme things (refer first few pages )

zayada nuksaan ki bateyen ki gayi hai, aam cheezon ka waham nahin kiya hai.

>

> If u see the sat in 6th then it specially talk about shoe of leather. Leather

(sat) and shoe (for ketu) it says shani ki nayi cheez payon (ketu) ke liyey na

lee jayey. Similarly cow in shuker house no 9th here it says mangal bad

>

> ……….2…………….

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned astrologers

> >  

> > via this post i want to request for some of your valuable

inputs/research  on LK , which may help new comers like us to understand

this stream with scientific outlook.

> >  

> > in lalkitaab , certain things are probhibited based on positions of

planet... like

> >  

> > 1. if saturn in 6th house then dont buy leather

> > 2. person having moon in 12 house should not sponsor education of some child

> > 3. person having venus in 9th house should not keep white cow in the house

etc

> >  

> > the query is

> >  

> > 1. how we should find ratinale in these kind of prohibited clauses... how

buying leather will effect saturn... if buying leather will effect staturn then

why only leather...why not other things that may effect saturn... fear of making

saturn angry could stop one buying anything

> >  

> > similarly one can stop keeping cow in once house...but what about other

elements of venus that one has in house which will give side effects

> >  

> > May be my question is very elementory or basic  and you all will laugh

after reading this post...but in order to avoid any supersitious acceptance of

things i  want to understand the correlation and underlying principal behind

these things.

> >  

> > Your inputs shall be of great help

> >  

> > regards

> > Mohit

> >

> >

> > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.

cricket.. com

> >

> >