aphabets and numerology in lalkitab --leekha

November 23, 2009

dear kulbir ji,

this is my method of confirmation of placement of stars, we can get confirmation

by any means, Punit asked is this is mentioned in LK i said yes it is there

means when houses are fixed then you can also fix numbers also,

ALPHABETS:- sirji, with this book when you can judge things by

KADIYAN, DIRECTIONS, KONEY WALA Makaan , Band Gali ka akhri Makaan, what u will

call it,

KADIYAN---ironbars astrology??,

DIRECTIONS- Direct astrology??

Koney wala makaan-MAP astrology??

WAHAM Khada kerna it is related to upayas and its related results>..

This is my nature or you can say method of judgement, (you can refer to this

group post where one member has taken lk astrology as an intuition) but it is

just or you can say complicated mathemetics not an intuition.

WAHAM Khada kerna accha hota hai, atleast you get cure to it, one new waham ki

baat,

The Well Checked or you can say well or continiously replied ID's

of manni and learn123 are very new (recently created) ID,s.

What we should call it?? shall we say ki we only reply to newly created id's or

it is open to all.

Now can i say manghadant ki batey waham paida karengey.

sirji it is simply how you see things, let me tell u one thing one person came

and was asking something i asked him to stand and walk few steps on sand (as i

was not able to judge his tewa), then i measured depth of his foot print on

sand, i found right feet deeper then left, i told him to do some chander

upaya...and it worked.

it is not in book but let me tell u how it worked LK says if you have pain in

right arm or right part of body you should do chander upaya. if there is pain in

body simply the part will be heavier then other one.

kar bhal to bhala ant bhaley ka bhala

regards,

leekha

-- In lalkitab , " kulbir " <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> S leekha ji, i protest,

> sarsari note point mo.4 1939. ''KITAB KE BAGAIR MANGHADANT BAAT WAHAM PAIDA

KAREGI''.

> THIS NUMEROLOGY statement of yours ''when the houses are fixed in LK so the

numbers also, nine stars and 9 numbers'' and you further assign these numbers to

english alphabets.

>

> kulbir

>

> lalkitab , " sleekhas " <sleekhas@> wrote:

> >

> > dear punit ji,

> >

> > it is there how,

> >

> > saturn 10 will be bad if house no 4 melafic of occupied by enemies of saturn

i.e. sun,moon and/or mars.

> >

> > now,

> >

> > S is from numeric 1 (sun/mars)

> > K is from numeric 2 (shuker/brihspat) here this k reflectes nature of chachi

also (the aunt will always be busy in doing makeups etc, sara samaey sajney

sawareney mein lagati hogi)

> > M is from numeric 4 moon

> > N is from numeric 5 sun

> >

> > when the houses are fixed in LK so the numbers also, nine stars and 9

numbers.

> >

> > the person with saturn in 10th will only approach you when he will be in

trouble, then first we have to confirm placemnet by any way,

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha

> >

> > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Leekha ji,

> > >

> > > From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving somehwere

> > > in Lal Kitab?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > dear manni

> > > >

> > > > if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work

> > > > which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also

> > > > your saturn is in house no 10th.

> > > >

> > > > the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn

is

> > > > in 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn

is

> > > > in 10th house.

> > > >

> > > > if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious

of 5

> > > > meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

> > > >

> > > > if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out

(means

> > > > ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

> > > >

> > > > if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then

> > > > saturn is in 9th.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > leekha

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Manni

Rehal

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear

> > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > Leekha ji,

> > > > > Ã‚

> > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> > > > > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you

confrim

> > > > this.

> > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > Manni

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>

> > > > > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> > > > >

> > > > > Ã‚

> > > > >

> > > > > dear manni,

> > > > >

> > > > > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > > > > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > > > > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> > > > >

> > > > > upay for speeding up the process are,

> > > > >

> > > > > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> > > > >

> > > > > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in

south

> > > > of your house, for 43 days.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > leekha s

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead

what

> > > > things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour,

I

> > > > wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my

> > > > job.

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > > > Manni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear mani

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to

> > > > Saturn or rahu.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please

> > > > get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some

> > > > painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > leekha s.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > > > > MANNI

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > manni ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months

period)

> > > > when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that

was

> > > > due to two reason

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

> > > > relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur

parindo

> > > > pey.........

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds

how,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and

half

> > > > year prior to job loss)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of

> > > > cost.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > please check and revert.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > > > taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA

HAAL

> > > > HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB

KI

> > > > KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE

KI

> > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH

SE

> > > > MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA

> > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm

one's

> > > > job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain

that

> > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at

will.

> > > > it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't

> > > > know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> > > > asked me

> > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

someone's

> > > > job??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli

mein

> > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

maar

> > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of

why

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal

umda "

> > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring

such

> > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15

nov

> > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year.

even

> > > > it

> > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house

no

> > > > 7 in

> > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your

chart

> > > > might

> > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

shows

> > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people

with

> > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years

of

> > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that

i

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that

why

> > > > i lost

> > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am

very

> > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

November 23, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji/ Leekha ji,

Let us not treat it as controversy. I have seen that astrologers, especially

in Lal Kitab, do have several methods for ascertaining nature of planets.

Some of them are unconventional and may not be approved by other

astrologers. But I appreciate that people are sharing their methods, which

is the first step for scientifically and statistical verification of a

method. I appreciate Leekha ji for sharing his method. Not all astrologers

do have that courage to put something in front of public. I also appreciate

Kulbir ji for questioning the method, as critical examination is the way for

improving our knowledge. Let us keep improving our knowledge by discussion,

critical examincation and sharing.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

>

> dear kulbir ji,

>

> this is my method of confirmation of placement of stars, we can get

> confirmation by any means, Punit asked is this is mentioned in LK i said yes

> it is there means when houses are fixed then you can also fix numbers also,

>

> ALPHABETS:- sirji, with this book when you can judge things by

>

> KADIYAN, DIRECTIONS, KONEY WALA Makaan , Band Gali ka akhri Makaan, what u

> will call it,

>

> KADIYAN---ironbars astrology??,

> DIRECTIONS- Direct astrology??

> Koney wala makaan-MAP astrology??

>

> WAHAM Khada kerna it is related to upayas and its related results>..

>

> This is my nature or you can say method of judgement, (you can refer to

> this group post where one member has taken lk astrology as an intuition) but

> it is just or you can say complicated mathemetics not an intuition.

>

> WAHAM Khada kerna accha hota hai, atleast you get cure to it, one new waham

> ki baat,

>

> The Well Checked or you can say well or continiously replied ID's

> of manni and learn123 are very new (recently created) ID,s.

>

> What we should call it?? shall we say ki we only reply to newly created

> id's or it is open to all.

>

> Now can i say manghadant ki batey waham paida karengey.

>

> sirji it is simply how you see things, let me tell u one thing one person

> came and was asking something i asked him to stand and walk few steps on

> sand (as i was not able to judge his tewa), then i measured depth of his

> foot print on sand, i found right feet deeper then left, i told him to do

> some chander upaya...and it worked.

>

> it is not in book but let me tell u how it worked LK says if you have pain

> in right arm or right part of body you should do chander upaya. if there is

> pain in body simply the part will be heavier then other one.

>

> kar bhal to bhala ant bhaley ka bhala

>

> regards,

> leekha

>

> -- In lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains wrote:

> >

> > S leekha ji, i protest,

> > sarsari note point mo.4 1939. ''KITAB KE BAGAIR MANGHADANT BAAT WAHAM

> PAIDA KAREGI''.

> > THIS NUMEROLOGY statement of yours ''when the houses are fixed in LK so

> the numbers also, nine stars and 9 numbers'' and you further assign these

> numbers to english alphabets.

> >

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, " sleekhas "

> <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear punit ji,

> > >

> > > it is there how,

> > >

> > > saturn 10 will be bad if house no 4 melafic of occupied by enemies of

> saturn i.e. sun,moon and/or mars.

> > >

> > > now,

> > >

> > > S is from numeric 1 (sun/mars)

> > > K is from numeric 2 (shuker/brihspat) here this k reflectes nature of

> chachi also (the aunt will always be busy in doing makeups etc, sara samaey

> sajney sawareney mein lagati hogi)

> > > M is from numeric 4 moon

> > > N is from numeric 5 sun

> > >

> > > when the houses are fixed in LK so the numbers also, nine stars and 9

> numbers.

> > >

> > > the person with saturn in 10th will only approach you when he will be

> in trouble, then first we have to confirm placemnet by any way,

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha

> > >

> > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit

> Pandey <punitp@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Leekha ji,

> > > >

> > > > From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving

> somehwere

> > > > in Lal Kitab?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > dear manni

> > > > >

> > > > > if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing

> work

> > > > > which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th

> house.

> > > > >

> > > > > if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then

> also

> > > > > your saturn is in house no 10th.

> > > > >

> > > > > the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your

> saturn is

> > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your

> saturn is

> > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within

> radious of 5

> > > > > meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out

> (means

> > > > > ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th

> house.

> > > > >

> > > > > if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old

> then

> > > > > saturn is in 9th.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > leekha

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40>,

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > Leekha ji,

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> > > > > > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you

> confrim

> > > > > this.

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > Manni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> house

> > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40>

> > > > > > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear manni,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > > > > > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > > > > > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > upay for speeding up the process are,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is

> in south

> > > > > of your house, for 43 days.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > leekha s

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an

> idead what

> > > > > things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what

> colour, I

> > > > > wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up

> losing my

> > > > > job.

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> house

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear mani

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related

> to

> > > > > Saturn or rahu.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009.

> please

> > > > > get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought

> some

> > > > > painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > leekha s.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > MANNI

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> house

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months

> period)

> > > > > when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs,

> that was

> > > > > due to two reason

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it

> is not

> > > > > relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur

> parindo

> > > > > pey.........

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by

> deeds how,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2

> and half

> > > > > year prior to job loss)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0

> free of

> > > > > cost.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > please check and revert.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing

> it for

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein

> charo

> > > > > taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI

> KA HAAL

> > > > > HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI

> HOGI

> > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> MAIDAAN SAB KI

> > > > > KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE

> WALE KI

> > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> TARAH SE

> > > > > MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> UMADA

> > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> year.plus

> > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to

> harm one's

> > > > > job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to

> explain that

> > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets

> at will.

> > > > > it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we

> don't

> > > > > know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why

> you

> > > > > asked me

> > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> someone's

> > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam

> kundli mein

> > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> taraf maar

> > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your

> question of why

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's

> living, and

> > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60

> saal umda "

> > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets

> assume)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to

> rahu

> > > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can

> bring such

> > > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is

> 15 nov

> > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd

> year. even

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in

> house no

> > > > > 7 in

> > > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33,

> that

> > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as

> your chart

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> shows

> > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen

> people with

> > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> <manni7rehal@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32

> years of

> > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told

> that i

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age,

> that why

> > > > > i lost

> > > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and

> am very

> > > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

November 23, 2009

Punit ji, confirmation is the best test, kindly apply this method to your

horoscope and about 10-12 others. does it approves ?.

regards

kulbir

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji/ Leekha ji,

>

> Let us not treat it as controversy. I have seen that astrologers, especially

> in Lal Kitab, do have several methods for ascertaining nature of planets.

> Some of them are unconventional and may not be approved by other

> astrologers. But I appreciate that people are sharing their methods, which

> is the first step for scientifically and statistical verification of a

> method. I appreciate Leekha ji for sharing his method. Not all astrologers

> do have that courage to put something in front of public. I also appreciate

> Kulbir ji for questioning the method, as critical examination is the way for

> improving our knowledge. Let us keep improving our knowledge by discussion,

> critical examincation and sharing.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

>

> >

> > dear kulbir ji,

> >

> > this is my method of confirmation of placement of stars, we can get

> > confirmation by any means, Punit asked is this is mentioned in LK i said yes

> > it is there means when houses are fixed then you can also fix numbers also,

> >

> > ALPHABETS:- sirji, with this book when you can judge things by

> >

> > KADIYAN, DIRECTIONS, KONEY WALA Makaan , Band Gali ka akhri Makaan, what u

> > will call it,

> >

> > KADIYAN---ironbars astrology??,

> > DIRECTIONS- Direct astrology??

> > Koney wala makaan-MAP astrology??

> >

> > WAHAM Khada kerna it is related to upayas and its related results>..

> >

> > This is my nature or you can say method of judgement, (you can refer to

> > this group post where one member has taken lk astrology as an intuition) but

> > it is just or you can say complicated mathemetics not an intuition.

> >

> > WAHAM Khada kerna accha hota hai, atleast you get cure to it, one new waham

> > ki baat,

> >

> > The Well Checked or you can say well or continiously replied ID's

> > of manni and learn123 are very new (recently created) ID,s.

> >

> > What we should call it?? shall we say ki we only reply to newly created

> > id's or it is open to all.

> >

> > Now can i say manghadant ki batey waham paida karengey.

> >

> > sirji it is simply how you see things, let me tell u one thing one person

> > came and was asking something i asked him to stand and walk few steps on

> > sand (as i was not able to judge his tewa), then i measured depth of his

> > foot print on sand, i found right feet deeper then left, i told him to do

> > some chander upaya...and it worked.

> >

> > it is not in book but let me tell u how it worked LK says if you have pain

> > in right arm or right part of body you should do chander upaya. if there is

> > pain in body simply the part will be heavier then other one.

> >

> > kar bhal to bhala ant bhaley ka bhala

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha

> >

> > -- In lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, " kulbir "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > S leekha ji, i protest,

> > > sarsari note point mo.4 1939. ''KITAB KE BAGAIR MANGHADANT BAAT WAHAM

> > PAIDA KAREGI''.

> > > THIS NUMEROLOGY statement of yours ''when the houses are fixed in LK so

> > the numbers also, nine stars and 9 numbers'' and you further assign these

> > numbers to english alphabets.

> > >

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, " sleekhas "

> > <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear punit ji,

> > > >

> > > > it is there how,

> > > >

> > > > saturn 10 will be bad if house no 4 melafic of occupied by enemies of

> > saturn i.e. sun,moon and/or mars.

> > > >

> > > > now,

> > > >

> > > > S is from numeric 1 (sun/mars)

> > > > K is from numeric 2 (shuker/brihspat) here this k reflectes nature of

> > chachi also (the aunt will always be busy in doing makeups etc, sara samaey

> > sajney sawareney mein lagati hogi)

> > > > M is from numeric 4 moon

> > > > N is from numeric 5 sun

> > > >

> > > > when the houses are fixed in LK so the numbers also, nine stars and 9

> > numbers.

> > > >

> > > > the person with saturn in 10th will only approach you when he will be

> > in trouble, then first we have to confirm placemnet by any way,

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > leekha

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit

> > Pandey <punitp@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Leekha ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving

> > somehwere

> > > > > in Lal Kitab?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear manni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing

> > work

> > > > > > which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th

> > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then

> > also

> > > > > > your saturn is in house no 10th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your

> > saturn is

> > > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your

> > saturn is

> > > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within

> > radious of 5

> > > > > > meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out

> > (means

> > > > > > ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th

> > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old

> > then

> > > > > > saturn is in 9th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > leekha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40>,

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear

> > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > Leekha ji,

> > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> > > > > > > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you

> > confrim

> > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > house

> > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40>

> > > > > > > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear manni,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > > > > > > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > > > > > > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > upay for speeding up the process are,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is

> > in south

> > > > > > of your house, for 43 days.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > leekha s

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an

> > idead what

> > > > > > things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what

> > colour, I

> > > > > > wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up

> > losing my

> > > > > > job.

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > house

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear mani

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related

> > to

> > > > > > Saturn or rahu.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009.

> > please

> > > > > > get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought

> > some

> > > > > > painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > leekha s.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > MANNI

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > house

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > manni ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months

> > period)

> > > > > > when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs,

> > that was

> > > > > > due to two reason

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it

> > is not

> > > > > > relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur

> > parindo

> > > > > > pey.........

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by

> > deeds how,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2

> > and half

> > > > > > year prior to job loss)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0

> > free of

> > > > > > cost.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > please check and revert.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing

> > it for

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein

> > charo

> > > > > > taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI

> > KA HAAL

> > > > > > HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI

> > HOGI

> > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> > MAIDAAN SAB KI

> > > > > > KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE

> > WALE KI

> > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> > TARAH SE

> > > > > > MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> > UMADA

> > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> > year.plus

> > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to

> > harm one's

> > > > > > job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to

> > explain that

> > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets

> > at will.

> > > > > > it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we

> > don't

> > > > > > know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why

> > you

> > > > > > asked me

> > > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> > someone's

> > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam

> > kundli mein

> > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > taraf maar

> > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your

> > question of why

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's

> > living, and

> > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60

> > saal umda "

> > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> > house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets

> > assume)

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to

> > rahu

> > > > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can

> > bring such

> > > > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is

> > 15 nov

> > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd

> > year. even

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in

> > house no

> > > > > > 7 in

> > > > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33,

> > that

> > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> > <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as

> > your chart

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> > shows

> > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen

> > people with

> > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> > <manni7rehal@ >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32

> > years of

> > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told

> > that i

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age,

> > that why

> > > > > > i lost

> > > > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and

> > am very

> > > > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

November 23, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,

I agree. We need to test it on real charts and see whether it works or not.

If it works, it is good. If it doesn't, we need to leave it and move

forward. Astrology itself has tons of methods which doesn't work. We need to

put those methods on test and decide based on the outcome of the test.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Punit ji, confirmation is the best test, kindly apply this method to your

> horoscope and about 10-12 others. does it approves ?.

> regards

> kulbir

>

> lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> <punitp wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir ji/ Leekha ji,

> >

> > Let us not treat it as controversy. I have seen that astrologers,

> especially

> > in Lal Kitab, do have several methods for ascertaining nature of planets.

> > Some of them are unconventional and may not be approved by other

> > astrologers. But I appreciate that people are sharing their methods,

> which

> > is the first step for scientifically and statistical verification of a

> > method. I appreciate Leekha ji for sharing his method. Not all

> astrologers

> > do have that courage to put something in front of public. I also

> appreciate

> > Kulbir ji for questioning the method, as critical examination is the way

> for

> > improving our knowledge. Let us keep improving our knowledge by

> discussion,

> > critical examincation and sharing.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > dear kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > this is my method of confirmation of placement of stars, we can get

> > > confirmation by any means, Punit asked is this is mentioned in LK i

> said yes

> > > it is there means when houses are fixed then you can also fix numbers

> also,

> > >

> > > ALPHABETS:- sirji, with this book when you can judge things by

> > >

> > > KADIYAN, DIRECTIONS, KONEY WALA Makaan , Band Gali ka akhri Makaan,

> what u

> > > will call it,

> > >

> > > KADIYAN---ironbars astrology??,

> > > DIRECTIONS- Direct astrology??

> > > Koney wala makaan-MAP astrology??

> > >

> > > WAHAM Khada kerna it is related to upayas and its related results>..

> > >

> > > This is my nature or you can say method of judgement, (you can refer to

> > > this group post where one member has taken lk astrology as an

> intuition) but

> > > it is just or you can say complicated mathemetics not an intuition.

> > >

> > > WAHAM Khada kerna accha hota hai, atleast you get cure to it, one new

> waham

> > > ki baat,

> > >

> > > The Well Checked or you can say well or continiously replied ID's

> > > of manni and learn123 are very new (recently created) ID,s.

> > >

> > > What we should call it?? shall we say ki we only reply to newly created

> > > id's or it is open to all.

> > >

> > > Now can i say manghadant ki batey waham paida karengey.

> > >

> > > sirji it is simply how you see things, let me tell u one thing one

> person

> > > came and was asking something i asked him to stand and walk few steps

> on

> > > sand (as i was not able to judge his tewa), then i measured depth of

> his

> > > foot print on sand, i found right feet deeper then left, i told him to

> do

> > > some chander upaya...and it worked.

> > >

> > > it is not in book but let me tell u how it worked LK says if you have

> pain

> > > in right arm or right part of body you should do chander upaya. if

> there is

> > > pain in body simply the part will be heavier then other one.

> > >

> > > kar bhal to bhala ant bhaley ka bhala

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha

> > >

> > > -- In lalkitab <lalkitab%40> <lalkitab%

> 40>, " kulbir "

>

> > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > S leekha ji, i protest,

> > > > sarsari note point mo.4 1939. ''KITAB KE BAGAIR MANGHADANT BAAT WAHAM

> > > PAIDA KAREGI''.

> > > > THIS NUMEROLOGY statement of yours ''when the houses are fixed in LK

> so

> > > the numbers also, nine stars and 9 numbers'' and you further assign

> these

> > > numbers to english alphabets.

> > > >

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40>, " sleekhas "

>

> > > <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear punit ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > it is there how,

> > > > >

> > > > > saturn 10 will be bad if house no 4 melafic of occupied by enemies

> of

> > > saturn i.e. sun,moon and/or mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > now,

> > > > >

> > > > > S is from numeric 1 (sun/mars)

> > > > > K is from numeric 2 (shuker/brihspat) here this k reflectes nature

> of

> > > chachi also (the aunt will always be busy in doing makeups etc, sara

> samaey

> > > sajney sawareney mein lagati hogi)

> > > > > M is from numeric 4 moon

> > > > > N is from numeric 5 sun

> > > > >

> > > > > when the houses are fixed in LK so the numbers also, nine stars and

> 9

> > > numbers.

> > > > >

> > > > > the person with saturn in 10th will only approach you when he will

> be

> > > in trouble, then first we have to confirm placemnet by any way,

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > leekha

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40>, Punit

>

> > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Leekha ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving

> > > somehwere

> > > > > > in Lal Kitab?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or

> doing

> > > work

> > > > > > > which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th

> > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k

> then

> > > also

> > > > > > > your saturn is in house no 10th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then

> your

> > > saturn is

> > > > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your

> > > saturn is

> > > > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within

> > > radious of 5

> > > > > > > meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side

> out

> > > (means

> > > > > > > ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in

> 9th

> > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year

> old

> > > then

> > > > > > > saturn is in 9th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40><lalkitab%

>

> > > 40>,

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > Leekha ji,

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct

> 2008.

> > > > > > > > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can

> you

> > > confrim

> > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

>

> > > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > > house

> > > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40><lalkitab%

>

> > > 40>

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear manni,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > > > > > > > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > > > > > > > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > upay for speeding up the process are,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which

> is

> > > in south

> > > > > > > of your house, for 43 days.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > leekha s

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an

> > > idead what

> > > > > > > things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?,

> what

> > > colour, I

> > > > > > > wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up

> > > losing my

> > > > > > > job.

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > Many thanks

>

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in

> 9th

> > > house

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear mani

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing

> related

> > > to

> > > > > > > Saturn or rahu.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year

> 2009.

> > > please

> > > > > > > get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or

> bought

> > > some

> > > > > > > painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > leekha s.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of

> age.

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > MANNI

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in

> 9th

> > > house

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > manni ji

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6

> months

> > > period)

> > > > > > > when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their

> jobs,

> > > that was

> > > > > > > due to two reason

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement

> it

> > > is not

> > > > > > > relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu

> aur

> > > parindo

> > > > > > > pey.........

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by

> > > deeds how,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly

> 2

> > > and half

> > > > > > > year prior to job loss)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0

> > > free of

> > > > > > > cost.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > please check and revert.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am

> doing

> > > it for

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon

> mein

> > > charo

> > > > > > > taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI

> JHOLI

> > > KA HAAL

> > > > > > > HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS

> HI

> > > HOGI

> > > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> > > MAIDAAN SAB KI

> > > > > > > KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA

> TEWE

> > > WALE KI

> > > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL

> HAR

> > > TARAH SE

> > > > > > > MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> > > UMADA

> > > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> > > year.plus

> > > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to

> > > harm one's

> > > > > > > job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to

> > > explain that

> > > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> planets

> > > at will.

> > > > > > > it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> we

> > > don't

> > > > > > > know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure

> why

> > > you

> > > > > > > asked me

> > > > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> > > someone's

> > > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam

> > > kundli mein

> > > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein

> charo

> > > taraf maar

> > > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your

> > > question of why

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's

> > > living, and

> > > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback

> after

> > > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as

> " 60

> > > saal umda "

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he

> constructs a

> > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th

> (lets

> > > assume)

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due

> to

> > > rahu

> > > > > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can

> > > bring such

> > > > > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob

> is

> > > 15 nov

> > > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in

> 33rd

> > > year. even

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is

> in

> > > house no

> > > > > > > 7 in

> > > > > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in

> 33,

> > > that

> > > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> > > <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as

> > > your chart

> > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned

> instance

> > > shows

> > > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen

> > > people with

> > > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> > > <manni7rehal@ >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was

> 32

> > > years of

> > > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been

> told

> > > that i

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of

> age,

> > > that why

> > > > > > > i lost

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support

> and

> > > am very

> > > > > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

November 24, 2009

dear kulbir ji

one more method i can tell u,

tell a person to call for any one number from 1 to 12, the called no can be

taken as lagan's rashi no.

then tell him to call any no between 1 to 108, the called no will be the

placement of star in that particular house where rashi no is situated. the list

would be like this jupiter/sun/ etc etc

the example is like this

one no called by person (1~12) say 5 then the lagan will be 5 according to that

give rashi nos to house i.e. house no 2 (6) house no 3 (7) like this

after that we have to place his star position tell him to call one no between

(1~108) say he calles 9 then jupiter will be placed in rashi no 9 means khana 5.

next star will be sun if he called 100 then divide 100 by 12 then the balance

result 4 then sun will be place in rashi no 4 means house no 12,

next star will be moon if he calls 108 then divide 12 the result will be 9 means

the moon is palced in rashi no 9 means house no 5.

now if u see then khann no 5 meing jupiter and moon fix ho gaye, like this if u

generate whole kundli, then try to tally this with, his varsh phal kundli, or if

u do reverse calculation then this will be very close to his janam kundli. this

is very effective when u donot have correct birth details or if u want to check

what the person is looking for.

how this idea have come,

two reasons....lk total of ridhi and siddhi is equal to 108 and mala puri hoti

hai. secondly it has given an four liner where it has said if you are not able

to judge any thing then calcuate the days in a month and place stars in that

particular house i.e. if monday in 4 times in a month then place moon in fourth

house. but////////lk has said it is not fool proof system but it can also be

checked. in this method one problem is there all the stars fall in fourth or

fifth house, but if add up all the dates of particular star and then divide it

by 12 and place star in balance no then it really works.

sirji there is too many things, but it is like, MAAH DI DAAL KISI NU BADI KISI

NU SWADI.....

the system is same and flawless it depends how we take it.

regards,

leekha

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> I agree. We need to test it on real charts and see whether it works or not.

> If it works, it is good. If it doesn't, we need to leave it and move

> forward. Astrology itself has tons of methods which doesn't work. We need to

> put those methods on test and decide based on the outcome of the test.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, kulbir <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> >

> > Punit ji, confirmation is the best test, kindly apply this method to your

> > horoscope and about 10-12 others. does it approves ?.

> > regards

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> > <punitp@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir ji/ Leekha ji,

> > >

> > > Let us not treat it as controversy. I have seen that astrologers,

> > especially

> > > in Lal Kitab, do have several methods for ascertaining nature of planets.

> > > Some of them are unconventional and may not be approved by other

> > > astrologers. But I appreciate that people are sharing their methods,

> > which

> > > is the first step for scientifically and statistical verification of a

> > > method. I appreciate Leekha ji for sharing his method. Not all

> > astrologers

> > > do have that courage to put something in front of public. I also

> > appreciate

> > > Kulbir ji for questioning the method, as critical examination is the way

> > for

> > > improving our knowledge. Let us keep improving our knowledge by

> > discussion,

> > > critical examincation and sharing.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > dear kulbir ji,

> > > >

> > > > this is my method of confirmation of placement of stars, we can get

> > > > confirmation by any means, Punit asked is this is mentioned in LK i

> > said yes

> > > > it is there means when houses are fixed then you can also fix numbers

> > also,

> > > >

> > > > ALPHABETS:- sirji, with this book when you can judge things by

> > > >

> > > > KADIYAN, DIRECTIONS, KONEY WALA Makaan , Band Gali ka akhri Makaan,

> > what u

> > > > will call it,

> > > >

> > > > KADIYAN---ironbars astrology??,

> > > > DIRECTIONS- Direct astrology??

> > > > Koney wala makaan-MAP astrology??

> > > >

> > > > WAHAM Khada kerna it is related to upayas and its related results>..

> > > >

> > > > This is my nature or you can say method of judgement, (you can refer to

> > > > this group post where one member has taken lk astrology as an

> > intuition) but

> > > > it is just or you can say complicated mathemetics not an intuition.

> > > >

> > > > WAHAM Khada kerna accha hota hai, atleast you get cure to it, one new

> > waham

> > > > ki baat,

> > > >

> > > > The Well Checked or you can say well or continiously replied ID's

> > > > of manni and learn123 are very new (recently created) ID,s.

> > > >

> > > > What we should call it?? shall we say ki we only reply to newly created

> > > > id's or it is open to all.

> > > >

> > > > Now can i say manghadant ki batey waham paida karengey.

> > > >

> > > > sirji it is simply how you see things, let me tell u one thing one

> > person

> > > > came and was asking something i asked him to stand and walk few steps

> > on

> > > > sand (as i was not able to judge his tewa), then i measured depth of

> > his

> > > > foot print on sand, i found right feet deeper then left, i told him to

> > do

> > > > some chander upaya...and it worked.

> > > >

> > > > it is not in book but let me tell u how it worked LK says if you have

> > pain

> > > > in right arm or right part of body you should do chander upaya. if

> > there is

> > > > pain in body simply the part will be heavier then other one.

> > > >

> > > > kar bhal to bhala ant bhaley ka bhala

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > leekha

> > > >

> > > > -- In lalkitab <lalkitab%40> <lalkitab%

> > 40>, " kulbir "

> >

> > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > S leekha ji, i protest,

> > > > > sarsari note point mo.4 1939. ''KITAB KE BAGAIR MANGHADANT BAAT WAHAM

> > > > PAIDA KAREGI''.

> > > > > THIS NUMEROLOGY statement of yours ''when the houses are fixed in LK

> > so

> > > > the numbers also, nine stars and 9 numbers'' and you further assign

> > these

> > > > numbers to english alphabets.

> > > > >

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40>, " sleekhas "

> >

> > > > <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear punit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it is there how,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > saturn 10 will be bad if house no 4 melafic of occupied by enemies

> > of

> > > > saturn i.e. sun,moon and/or mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > S is from numeric 1 (sun/mars)

> > > > > > K is from numeric 2 (shuker/brihspat) here this k reflectes nature

> > of

> > > > chachi also (the aunt will always be busy in doing makeups etc, sara

> > samaey

> > > > sajney sawareney mein lagati hogi)

> > > > > > M is from numeric 4 moon

> > > > > > N is from numeric 5 sun

> > > > > >

> > > > > > when the houses are fixed in LK so the numbers also, nine stars and

> > 9

> > > > numbers.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the person with saturn in 10th will only approach you when he will

> > be

> > > > in trouble, then first we have to confirm placemnet by any way,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > leekha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40>, Punit

> >

> > > > Pandey <punitp@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Leekha ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving

> > > > somehwere

> > > > > > > in Lal Kitab?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or

> > doing

> > > > work

> > > > > > > > which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k

> > then

> > > > also

> > > > > > > > your saturn is in house no 10th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then

> > your

> > > > saturn is

> > > > > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your

> > > > saturn is

> > > > > > > > in 10th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within

> > > > radious of 5

> > > > > > > > meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side

> > out

> > > > (means

> > > > > > > > ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in

> > 9th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year

> > old

> > > > then

> > > > > > > > saturn is in 9th.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40><lalkitab%

> >

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > Leekha ji,

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct

> > 2008.

> > > > > > > > > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can

> > you

> > > > confrim

> > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > Many thanks

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> >

> > > > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40><lalkitab%

> >

> > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear manni,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > > > > > > > > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > > > > > > > > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > upay for speeding up the process are,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which

> > is

> > > > in south

> > > > > > > > of your house, for 43 days.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > leekha s

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an

> > > > idead what

> > > > > > > > things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?,

> > what

> > > > colour, I

> > > > > > > > wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up

> > > > losing my

> > > > > > > > job.

> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks

> >

> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in

> > 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear mani

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing

> > related

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > Saturn or rahu.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year

> > 2009.

> > > > please

> > > > > > > > get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or

> > bought

> > > > some

> > > > > > > > painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > leekha s.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ'Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of

> > age.

> > > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ'Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ'Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > MANNI

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in

> > 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > > > > > > > > >

ÃƒÆ'Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ'Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > manni ji

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6

> > months

> > > > period)

> > > > > > > > when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their

> > jobs,

> > > > that was

> > > > > > > > due to two reason

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement

> > it

> > > > is not

> > > > > > > > relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu

> > aur

> > > > parindo

> > > > > > > > pey.........

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by

> > > > deeds how,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly

> > 2

> > > > and half

> > > > > > > > year prior to job loss)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0

> > > > free of

> > > > > > > > cost.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > please check and revert.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > leekha

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am

> > doing

> > > > it for

> > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon

> > mein

> > > > charo

> > > > > > > > taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI

> > JHOLI

> > > > KA HAAL

> > > > > > > > HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS

> > HI

> > > > HOGI

> > > > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> > > > MAIDAAN SAB KI

> > > > > > > > KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA

> > TEWE

> > > > WALE KI

> > > > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL

> > HAR

> > > > TARAH SE

> > > > > > > > MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> > > > UMADA

> > > > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> > > > year.plus

> > > > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to

> > > > harm one's

> > > > > > > > job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to

> > > > explain that

> > > > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> > planets

> > > > at will.

> > > > > > > > it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> > we

> > > > don't

> > > > > > > > know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> > <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure

> > why

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > asked me

> > > > > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> > > > someone's

> > > > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam

> > > > kundli mein

> > > > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein

> > charo

> > > > taraf maar

> > > > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your

> > > > question of why

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's

> > > > living, and

> > > > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback

> > after

> > > > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as

> > " 60

> > > > saal umda "

> > > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he

> > constructs a

> > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th

> > (lets

> > > > assume)

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due

> > to

> > > > rahu

> > > > > > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can

> > > > bring such

> > > > > > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir "

> > <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob

> > is

> > > > 15 nov

> > > > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in

> > 33rd

> > > > year. even

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is

> > in

> > > > house no

> > > > > > > > 7 in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in

> > 33,

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > could be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> > > > <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as

> > > > your chart

> > > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned

> > instance

> > > > shows

> > > > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen

> > > > people with

> > > > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> > > > <manni7rehal@ >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was

> > 32

> > > > years of

> > > > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been

> > told

> > > > that i

> > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of

> > age,

> > > > that why

> > > > > > > > i lost

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support

> > and

> > > > am very

> > > > > > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 25, 2009

While doing Prasanna, my Father advised to go with number of 120 which

represents the vimsodri years, the number indicates the running of present dasa

and bukthi.and the prediction goes well.

Similarly the number 243, the number of 9 * 27 as per KP gives the lagna

position

madhavan parthasarathy

-

November 26, 2009

dear madhavan ji,

there are plenty of methods like this. some where people use dice for

ascertaining star placement.

these methods are very good for doing predictions or clearing present

doubts.

the major task is how to corelate this prasna kundli with birth chart.

in lk there are few very tedious methods which can be used

i) taking parsana kundli as the day kundli and doing reverse calculation

and reaching to birth chart.

ii) taking the help of lines and signs on palm/feet.

iii) and the best way to considering major happening of past.

now the question is how to pen it (scientific reasoning)for this, where

as all this depends or differ from person to person.

Infact no scientific reasoning have been found for :versh phal: calender

given in lk, but it is effective.

in kp system, we reach to a conclusion where it says that this star

will be in this mood(position) at this particular time,

after this

it is user brain who corelate the start or finish of problem with that

time result, afterward it is user who suggess the remedy which depend

upon his own ability.

where as in LK it gives very broad idea or result of particular star

in particular position, like saturn in 8th it will say the fear of

accident is there but it wont says " when " but in KP it replies to " when "

if you deepen the study of lk it will/can tell you the day and time

of accident also. The time of death calculation is there in LK but

KP doesnot say about it. because KP is continious mathemetics which

goes upto infinity, whereas lk is starmetics which ends with stars

life.

regars,

leekha

lalkitab , " Madhavan " <chims45 wrote:

>

> While doing Prasanna, my Father advised to go with number of 120 which

represents the vimsodri years, the number indicates the running of present dasa

and bukthi.and the prediction goes well.

>

> Similarly the number 243, the number of 9 * 27 as per KP gives the lagna

position

>

> madhavan parthasarathy

>

> -

>

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