Re:Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, understanding basic diagram.

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Dear Members; so now we can resume lalkitab lessons.

 

To understand the concept of aspects the first condition is to understand the diagram representing the horoscope.

Lalkitab follows the diagram which is generally known as North Indian Horoscope Chart or Diagram.

 

According to Lalkitab ;-

Horoscope represents a House with 8 Rooms (quarters);

4 Houses i.e. House no. 1,4,7 and 10 have 4 walls so they are in complete shape;

Other 8 houses i.e. 2,3,5,6,8,9,11 and 12 have three walls each so they are incomplete; these houses are part of other houses or compliment each other to make 4 complete houses.

 

Planets in the houses are to be considered as light emitting sources, they emit the light in the house in which they are posited; the houses have portions/doors from which this light is emitted outside and can be transferred to other houses.

 

This is very essential and important point. Understanding this concept will help i understanding many rules related to grammar of lalkitabRegardsKulbir Bains

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--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Ram Jaswal <rkjaswal (AT) tiscali (DOT) co.uk>RE: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Jilalkitab Date: Friday, 1 January, 2010, 3:14 AM

 

 

 

 

Namaste Kulbir ji

 

Many thanks – your explanation below regarding Chandra Kundali is more clear and explicit from before ….

 

Please continue with your lessons …..

Best wishes to everyone regarding New Year …….

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

 

 

 

 

lalkitab@ s.com [ lalkitab@ s.com ] On Behalf Of kulbir30 December 2009 07:09lalkitab@ s.comRe: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Ji

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ram Jaswal ji; the last Chandra kundali is correct as per lalkitab; basic principle is 1. the moon is to be placed in the house no. corresponding to the sign number in the ascendant as per natal horoscope.2. in this horoscope ascendant is libra so we place moon in house no.7 and other planets with respect to moon as per the natal horoscope.3. the house no.1 will always represent sign no.1 aries.please feel free to ask any querry any time;RegardsKulbir Bains.lalkitab@ s.com, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@.. .> wrote:>> Namaste Kulbir ji> > From your notes below which Chandra Chart is correct ?> > Traditional Natal Chart> House

no 1 ascendant sign Libra Tula, occupied by - vacant.> House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by - Saturn.> House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by - Moon Rahu.> House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. = occupied by - vacant.> House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by - vacant.> House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by - Mars.> House no 7 = sign / rashi no 1. = occupied by - Sun, Mercury.> House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by - Venus.> House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by - Ketu.> House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by - vacant.> House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by - vacant.> House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by - Jupiter.> > > Lalkitab Natal chart:> > House no 1 = Aries. occupied by - vacant.> House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn.> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Moon, Rahu.> House no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by - vacant.> House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by - vacant.> House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Mars.> House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Sun, Mercury.> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by Venus.> House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by Ketu.> House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by - vacant.> House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by - vacant.> House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Jupiter.> > Lalkitab Chandra Chart 1 (Moon moved to House 1 etc):> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Moon, Rahu (sign Gemini)> House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Cancer)> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Leo)> House no 4 = Cancer = occupied by Mars (sign Virgo)> House no 5 = Leo = occupied by Sun, Mercury (sign Libra)> House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Venus (sign Scorpio)> House

no 7 = Libra = occupied by Ketu (sign Sagittarius)> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Capricorn)> House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Aquarius)> House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Jupiter (sign Pisces)> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Aries)> House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Saturn (sign Taurus)> > OR Lalkitab Chandra Chart 2 (Moon moved to Traditional House 1 ie Libra Asc etc):> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Moon, Rahu (sign Libra)> House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Scorpio)> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Sagittarius)> House no 4 = Cancer = occupied by Mars (sign Capricorn)> House no 5 = Leo = occupied by Sun, Mercury (sign Aquarius)> House no 6 Virgo =

occupied by Venus (sign Pisces)> House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Ketu (sign Aries)> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Taurus)> House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Gemini)> House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Jupiter (sign Cancer)> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Leo)> House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Saturn (sign Virgo)> > OR Lalkitab Chandra Chart 3 (per Chart 2 though using Aries Sign as House 1) :> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Ketu > House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 4 = Cancer = occupied by Jupiter > House no 5 = Leo = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Saturn

gt; House no 7 = Libra occupied by Moon, Rahu > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Mars > House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by Sun, Mercury > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Venus> > Please let me know which Chandra Chart is correct per Lal Kitab?> > Many thanks ¢¢â€š¬¦.> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > lalkitab@ s.com [lalk

itab@ s.com] On Behalf Of kulbir> 23 December 2009 11:43> lalkitab@ s.com> Fw: Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Ji> > > Dear Dev ji;> you are more than welcome to ask any questions; anytime;> > planet direct or retro don't have any difference in lalkitab. it is only the placement that matters.> > you are following the right approach; one should not proceed to next step until and unless he is sure of the first step.> > Regards> Kulbir Bains> > lalkitab@ <lalkitab% 40. com> s.com, Dev Sarkar <sarkar_dbx@ > wrote:> >> > Respected Kulbir ji,> > >

> > > > > With the revised details (extremely sorry the correction mail was overlooked),> > > > > > > > // As corrected by S Leekha ji; kindly change the date of birth to> > 10-5-1898 instead of 11-5-1898. Rest everything remains same. // > > > > > > > > The planets placements are as per the lesson which you have given us but my request clarification on doubts, Sir ji.> > > > > > > > // Kulbir ji, I have also noticed> > that there are 3 planets in retro which you have not shown any> > indication. Does it mean that whether direct or retro has no influence> > ? or it is just the planet placement in the various houses ?> > > > > > > > Sorry for asking too many questions but please allow me to clarify these doubts as it will haunt me with half baked knowledge

.. > > > > > > > > Eagerly waiting to hear from you and thanks for the clarification in advance. //> > > > Jai Maa Kaali,Æ’¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Devbrato Sarkar> > > > "Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making theÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ MAN while he is making money".> > > > --- On Sun, 12/13/09, Dev Sarkar <sarkar_dbx@ > wrote:> > > > Dev Sarkar <sarkar_dbx@ >> > Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1.> > lalkitab@ <lalkitab% 40. com> s.com> > Sunday, December 13, 2009, 11:25 AM> > > > Respected Kulbir ji,> > > > With reference to the Lesson 1, part 1; erected the chart with the following particulars given in your mail .> > > > birth data 11-5-1898 ; 05:43 pm; Jalandhar, Punjab> > > > Using Lahri Ayanamsa in the JHora s/w, I find a small difference in the 3 & 4th house as compared to what you have mentioned in your mail. Requesting you to correct me if I am wrong.> > > > Step no 1> > > > House no 1 ascendant sign Libra, occupied by - vacant.> > > > House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn ®.> > > > House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by - Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Moon.> > > > House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = sign / rashi no 1. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Sun, Mercury ®.> > > > House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by- vacant.> > > > House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Jupiter ®.> > > > > > > > Step no.2> > > > > > > > Remove the Signs;> > > > House no 1 = vacant.> > > > House no 2 = occupied by - Saturn®.> > > > House no 3 = occupied by - Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = occupied by - Moon.> > > > House no 5 = vacant.> > > > House no 6 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Sun, Mercury®.> > > > House no 8 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = occupied by - Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = occupied by- vacant.> > > > House no 12 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Jupiter®.> > > > > > > > Step no 3.> > > > > > > > House no 1. is fixed as Sign no.1 Aries.> > > > House no 2. is fixed as Sign no. 2 Taurus.> > > > House no 3. is fixed as Sign no.3 Gemini .> > > > House no 4. is fixed as Sign no.4 Cancer.> > > > House no 5. is fixed as Sign no.5 Leo.> > > > House no 6. is fixed as Sign no.6 Virgo.> >

> > House no 7. is fixed as Sign no.7 Libra.> > > > House no 8. is fixed as Sign no.8 Scorpio.> > > > House no 9. is fixed as Sign no.9 . Sagittarius.> > > > House no 10. is fixed as Sign no.10 Capricorn.> > > > House no 11. is fixed as Sign no.1 1 Aquarius.> > > > House no 12. is fixed as Sign no.12. Pisces.> > > > > > > > Step no 4.> > > > > > > > Apply Step 2 and Ste3 to Horoscope in Step.1.> > > > > > > > House no 1 = Aries. occupied by - vacant.> > > > House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn ®.> > > > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by Moon.> > > > House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Sun, Mercury ®.> > > > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by- vacant.> > > > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Jupiter ®.> > > > Kulbir ji, I have also noticed that there are 3 planets in retro which you have not shown any indication. Does it mean that whether direct or retro has no influence ? or it is just the planet placement in the various houses ?> > > > Sorry for asking too many questions but please

allow me to clarify these doubts as it will haunt me with half baked knowledge. > > > > Eagerly waiting to hear from you and thanks for the clarification in advance.> > > > Jai Maa Kaali,Æ’¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > Devbrato Sarkar> > > > "Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making theÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ MAN while he is making money".> > > > --- On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ > wrote:> > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@ >> > [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1.> > lalkitab@ <lalkitab% 40. com> s.com> > Saturday, December 12, 2009, 8:31 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Æ’¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > &g

t; > > > > > > > > > Janam Kundali according to lalitab.> > > > > > > > We will attempt to understand the method with the help of this example> > > > > > > > Step no.1.> > > > > > > > Erect a Kundali with the birth data 11-5-1898 ; 05:43 pm; Jalandhar, Punjab .> > > > we get a horoscope with ascendant sign no.7.> > > > i.e.> > > > > > > > House no 1 ascendant sign libra tula , occupied by - vacant.> > > > House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by - Moon Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied

by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = sign / rashi no 1. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Sun, Mercury.> > > > House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by- vacant.> > > > House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Jupiter.> > > > > > > > Step no.2> > > > > > > > Remove the Signs;> > > > We get> > > > House no 1 = vacant.> > > > House no 2 = occupied by - Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = occupied by - Moon Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = vacant.> > > > House no 5 = vacant.> > > > House no 6 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Sun, Mercury.> > > > House no 8 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = occupied by- vacant.> > > > House no 12 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Jupiter.> > > > > > > > Step.3.> > > > > > > > House no 1. is fixed as Sign no.1 Aries.> > > > House no 2. is fixed as Sign no. 2 Tau

rus.> > > > House no 3. is fixed as Sign no.3 Gemini .> > > > House no 4. is fixed as Sign no.4 Cancer.> > > > House no 5. is fixed as Sign no.5 Leo.> > > > House no 6. is fixed as Sign no.6 Virgo.> > > > House no 7. is fixed as Sign no.7 Libra.> > > > House no 8. is fixed as Sign no.8 Scorpio.> > > > House no 9. is fixed as Sign no.9 . Sagittarius.> > > > House no 10. is fixed as Sign no.10 Capricorn.> > > > House no 11. is fixed as Sign no.1 1 Aquarius.> > > > House no 12. is fixed as Sign no.12. Pisces.> > > > > > > > Step no 4.> > > > > > > > Apply Step 2 and Ste3 to Horoscope in Step.1.> > > > > > > > House no 1 = Aries. occupied by - vacant.> > > > House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Moon, Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Sun, Mercury.> > > > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by- vacant.> > > > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬" Jupiter.> > ab.> > > > > > > > House is referred to as Khanna and sometimes Horoscope; Kundali is referred to as Tewa also.> > > > > > > > Before proceeding to part 2 i.e. How to cast Moon Horoscope, Chandra Kundali according to Lalkitab, Kindly try to make this more simple. Check through the page and point out if there are any mistakes. Please send in your Suggestions.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot Kulbir jee ,

Here I have a small question : When you are saying " Planets in the houses are to

be considered as light emitting sources " are you taking about dristhi which we

call in our day to day language.

regards,

Ash

 

lalkitab , " kulbir bains " <kulbirbains wrote:

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> Dear Members; so now we can resume lalkitab lessons. To understand the concept

of aspects the first condition is to understand the diagram representing the

horoscope. Lalkitab follows the diagram which is generally known as North Indian

Horoscope Chart or Diagram. According to Lalkitab ;Horoscope represents a House

with 8 Rooms (quarters); 4 Houses i.e. House no. 1,4,7 and 10 have 4 walls so

they are in complete shape; Other 8 houses i.e. 2,3,5,6,8,9,11 and 12 have three

walls each so they are incomplete; these houses are part of other houses or

compliment each other to make 4 complete houses. Planets in the houses are to be

considered as light emitting sources, they emit the light in the house in which

they are posited; the houses have portions/doors from which this light is

emitted outside and can be transferred to other houses. This is very essential

and important point. Understanding this concept will help i understanding many

rules related to grammar of lalkitabRegardsKu

> lbir Bains Original message Priya Chunodkar< priyasuren24 >12

Jan 10 15:40:15RE: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev

Jilalkitab On Fri, 1/1/10, Ram Jaswalwrote: Ram Jaswal

RE: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev JiTo:

lalkitab: Friday, 1 January, 2010, 3:14 AM Namaste Kulbir jiMany thanks

– your explanation below regarding Chandra Kundali is more clear and

explicit from before ….Please continue with your lessons ….. Best

wishes to everyone regarding New Year ……. Jai Sita Ram Ram

lalkitab@ s.com [ lalkitab@ s.com ] On Behalf Of

kulbir30 December 2009 07:09lalkitab@ s.comRe:

[lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev JiDear Ram Jaswal ji; the

last Chandra kundali is correct as per lalkitab; basic principle is 1. the moon

is to be placed in the house no. correspo

> nding to the sign number in the ascendant as per natal horoscope.2. in this

horoscope ascendant is libra so we place moon in house no.7 and other planets

with respect to moon as per the natal horoscope.3. the house no.1 will always

represent sign no.1 aries.please feel free to ask any querry any

time;RegardsKulbir Bains. In lalkitab@ s.com, " Ram Jaswal " wrote:>>

Namaste Kulbir ji> > From your notes below which Chandra Chart is correct ?> >

Traditional Natal Chart> House no 1 ascendant sign Libra Tula, occupied by

vacant.> House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn.> House no 3 =

sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by Moon Rahu.> House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. =

occupied by vacant.> House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by vacant.>

House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by Mars.> House no 7 = sign / rashi

no 1. = occupied by Sun, Mercury.> House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by

Venus.> House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by Ketu.

> > House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by vacant.> House no 11 = sign

/ rashi no 5. = occupied by vacant.> House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. =

occupied by Jupiter.> > > Lalkitab Natal chart:> > House no 1 = Aries. occupied

by vacant.> House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn.> House no 3 = Gemini =

occupied by Moon, Rahu.> House no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by vacant.> House no 5

= Leo.= occupied by vacant.> House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Mars.> House no 7

= Libra = occupied by Sun, Mercury.> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by Venus.>

House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by Ketu.> House no 10 = Capricorn. =

occupied by vacant.> House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by vacant.> House no

12 = Pisces = occupied by Jupiter.> > Lalkitab Chandra Chart 1 (Moon moved to

House 1 etc):> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Moon, Rahu (sign Gemini)>

House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign

Cancer)> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢â€š

> ¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Leo)> House no 4 = Cancer = occupied by Mars

(sign Virgo)> House no 5 = Leo = occupied by Sun, Mercury (sign Libra)> House no

6 = Virgo = occupied by Venus (sign Scorpio)> House no 7 = Libra = occupied by

Ketu (sign Sagittarius)> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by

¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Capricorn)> House no 9 = Sagittarius =

occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Aquarius)> House no 10 =

Capricorn = occupied by Jupiter (sign Pisces)> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied

by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Aries)> House no 12 = Pisces =

occupied by Saturn (sign Taurus)> > OR Lalkitab Chandra Chart 2 (Moon moved to

Traditional House 1 ie Libra Asc etc):> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Moon,

Rahu (sign Libra)> House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“

vacant (sign Scorpio)> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by

¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Sagittarius)> House no 4 = Cancer =

occup

> ied by Mars (sign Capricorn)> House no 5 = Leo = occupied by Sun, Mercury

(sign Aquarius)> House no 6 Virgo = occupied by Venus (sign Pisces)> House no 7

= Libra = occupied by Ketu (sign Aries)> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by

¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Taurus)> House no 9 = Sagittarius =

occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Gemini)> House no 10 =

Capricorn = occupied by Jupiter (sign Cancer)> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied

by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant (sign Leo)> House no 12 = Pisces =

occupied by Saturn (sign Virgo)> > OR Lalkitab Chandra Chart 3 (per Chart 2

though using Aries Sign as House 1) :> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Ketu >

House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no

3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 4 =

Cancer = occupied by Jupiter > House no 5 = Leo = occupied by

¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Saturn >

> House no 7 = Libra occupied by Moon, Rahu > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied

by ¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by

¢¢â€š¬¢â‚¬Å“ vacant > House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Mars

> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by Sun, Mercury > House no 12 = Pisces =

occupied by Venus> > Please let me know which Chandra Chart is correct per Lal

Kitab?> > Many thanks ¢¢â€š¬¦.> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > > >

lalkitab@ s.com [lalkitab@ s.com] On Behalf Of

kulbir> 23 December 2009 11:43> lalkitab@ s.com> Subject:

Fw: Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Ji> > > Dear Dev ji;>

you are more than welcome to ask any questions; anytime;> > planet direct or

retro don't have any difference in lalkitab. it is only the placement that

matters.> > you are following the right approach; one should not proceed to next

step until and unless he is sure of the first step.> >

> Regards> Kulbir Bains> > In lalkitab , Dev Sarkarwrote:> >> >

Respected Kulbir ji,> > > > > > > > With the revised details (extremely sorry

the correction mail was overlooked),> > > > > > > > // As corrected by S Leekha

ji; kindly change the date of birth to> > 1051898 instead of 1151898. Rest

everything remains same. // > > > > > > > > The planets placements are as per

the lesson which you have given us but my request clarification on doubts, Sir

ji.> > > > > > > > // Kulbir ji, I have also noticed> > that there are 3 planets

in retro which you have not shown any> > indication. Does it mean that whether

direct or retro has no influence> > ? or it is just the planet placement in the

various houses ?> > > > > > > > Sorry for asking too many questions but please

allow me to clarify these doubts as it will haunt me with half baked knowledge.

> > > > > > > > Eagerly waiting to hear from you and thanks for the

clarification in advance. //> > > > Jai Maa Kaali,Æâ€

> ™Â¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ > > > > Devbrato Sarkar> > > > " Wealth is not just about

making the money BUT making theÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ MAN while he is making

money " .> > > > On Sun, 12/13/09, Dev Sarkarwrote:> > > > Dev Sarkar > >

Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1.> > To:

lalkitab > > Sunday, December 13, 2009, 11:25 AM> > > >

Respected Kulbir ji,> > > > With reference to the Lesson 1, part 1; erected the

chart with the following particulars given in your mail .> > > > birth data

1151898 ; 05:43 pm; Jalandhar, Punjab> > > > Using Lahri Ayanamsa in the JHora

s/w, I find a small difference in the 3 & 4th house as compared to what you have

mentioned in your mail. Requesting you to correct me if I am wrong.> > > > Step

no 1> > > > House no 1 ascendant sign Libra, occupied by vacant.> > > > House

no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn ®.> > > > House no 3 = sign /

rashi no 9. = occupied by Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = sign / rashi no

> 10. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Moon.> > > > House no 5 = sign /

rashi no 11.= occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 6 =

sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Mars.> > > > House

no 7 = sign / rashi no 1. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Sun, Mercury

®.> > > > House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Venus.> > > > House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = sign / rashi no

4. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 11 = sign /

rashi no 5. = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Jupiter ®.> > > > > > > > Step no.2> > >

> > > > > Remove the Signs;> > > > House no 1 = vacant.> > > > House no 2 =

occupied by Saturn®.> > > > House no 3 = occupied by Rahu.> > > > House no 4

= occupied by Moon.> > > > House no 5 = vacant.> > > > House no 6 =

> occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Mars.> > > > House no 7 = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Sun, Mercury®.> > > > House no 8 = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Venus.> > > > House no 9 = occupied by Ketu.> > > >

House no 10 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 11 =

occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ "

Jupiter®.> > > > > > > > Step no 3.> > > > > > > > House no 1. is fixed as

Sign no.1 Aries.> > > > House no 2. is fixed as Sign no. 2 Taurus.> > > > House

no 3. is fixed as Sign no.3 Gemini .> > > > House no 4. is fixed as Sign no.4

Cancer.> > > > House no 5. is fixed as Sign no.5 Leo.> > > > House no 6. is

fixed as Sign no.6 Virgo.> > > > House no 7. is fixed as Sign no.7 Libra.> > > >

House no 8. is fixed as Sign no.8 Scorpio.> > > > House no 9. is fixed as Sign

no.9 . Sagittarius.> > > > House no 10. is fixed as Sign no.10 Capricorn.> > > >

House no 11. is fixed as Sign no.1 1 Aquarius.

> > > > > House no 12. is fixed as Sign no.12. Pisces.> > > > > > > > Step no

4.> > > > > > > > Apply Step 2 and Ste3 to Horoscope in Step.1.> > > > > > > >

House no 1 = Aries. occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied

by Saturn ®.> > > > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Rahu.> > > > House no 4

= Cancer. = occupied by Moon.> > > > House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Mars.> > > > House no 7 = Libra = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Sun, Mercury ®.> > > > House no 8 = Scorpio =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Sagittarius =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = Capricorn. =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 11 = Aquarius. =

occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Jupiter ®.> > > > Kulbir ji, I have also noticed

that there

> are 3 planets in retro which you have not shown any indication. Does it mean

that whether direct or retro has no influence ? or it is just the planet

placement in the various houses ?> > > > Sorry for asking too many questions but

please allow me to clarify these doubts as it will haunt me with half baked

knowledge. > > > > Eagerly waiting to hear from you and thanks for the

clarification in advance.> > > > Jai Maa Kaali,Æ’¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > >

Devbrato Sarkar> > > > " Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making

theÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡ MAN while he is making money " .> > > > On Sat, 12/12/09,

kulbirwrote:> > > > kulbir > > [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson

1, part 1.> > lalkitab > > Saturday, December 12, 2009,

8:31 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Æ’¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Janam Kundali according to lalitab.> > > > > > > > We will

attempt to understand the method with the help of this exampl

> e> > > > > > > > Step no.1.> > > > > > > > Erect a Kundali with the birth

data 1151898 ; 05:43 pm; Jalandhar, Punjab .> > > > we get a horoscope with

ascendant sign no.7.> > > > i.e.> > > > > > > > House no 1 ascendant sign libra

tula , occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by

Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by Moon Rahu.> > > >

House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ "

vacant.> > > > House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Mars.> > > > House no 7 = sign / rashi no

1. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Sun, Mercury.> > > > House no 8 =

sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Venus.> > > > House no

9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Ketu.> > > >

House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " v

> acant.> > > > House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by vacant.> > > >

House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ "

Jupiter.> > > > > > > > Step no.2> > > > > > > > Remove the Signs;> > > > We

get> > > > House no 1 = vacant.> > > > House no 2 = occupied by Saturn.> > > >

House no 3 = occupied by Moon Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = vacant.> > > > House no

5 = vacant.> > > > House no 6 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Mars.> > >

> House no 7 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Sun, Mercury.> > > > House

no 8 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Ketu.> >

> > House no 10 = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no

11 = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = occupied by

Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Jupiter.> > > > > > > > Step.3.> > > > > > > > House

no 1. is fixed as Sign no.1 Aries.> > > > House no 2. is fixed as Sign no. 2

Taurus.> > > > House no 3. is fixed as Sign no.3 Gemini .> > > > H

> ouse no 4. is fixed as Sign no.4 Cancer.> > > > House no 5. is fixed as Sign

no.5 Leo.> > > > House no 6. is fixed as Sign no.6 Virgo.> > > > House no 7. is

fixed as Sign no.7 Libra.> > > > House no 8. is fixed as Sign no.8 Scorpio.> > >

> House no 9. is fixed as Sign no.9 . Sagittarius.> > > > House no 10. is fixed

as Sign no.10 Capricorn.> > > > House no 11. is fixed as Sign no.1 1 Aquarius.>

> > > House no 12. is fixed as Sign no.12. Pisces.> > > > > > > > Step no 4.> >

> > > > > > Apply Step 2 and Ste3 to Horoscope in Step.1.> > > > > > > > House

no 1 = Aries. occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by

Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Moon, Rahu.> > > > House no 4 =

Cancer. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 5 =

Leo.= occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " vacant.> > > > House no 6 = Virgo =

occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Mars.> > > > House no 7 = Libra = occupied

by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Sun, Me

> rcury.> > > > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ "

Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ "

Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ "

vacant.> > > > House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12

= Pisces = occupied by Æ’¢¢¢â‚¬Å¡¬ " Jupiter.> > > > > > > > This is

the Natal Horoscope; Janam Kundali according to Lalkitab.> > > > > > > > House

is referred to as Khanna and sometimes Horoscope; Kundali is referred to as Tewa

also.> > > > > > > > Before proceeding to part 2 i.e. How to cast Moon

Horoscope, Chandra Kundali according to Lalkitab, Kindly try to make this more

simple. Check through the page and point out if there are any mistakes. Please

send in your Suggestions.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir> > > > > > > > >

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Dear Ashyad'

Yes it relates to aspects.

It helps in understanding as to how the effect of one planet posited at a particular house reaches another house.

This concept will further help when we study the colors ascribed to planets.

RegardsKulbir Bains

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Thanks a lot Kulbir jee ,Here I have a small question : When you are saying "Planets in the houses are to be considered as light emitting sources " are you taking about dristhi which we call in our day to day language.regards,Ashlalkitab , "kulbir bains" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Dear Members; so now we can resume lalkitab lessons. To understand the concept of aspects the first condition is to understand the diagram representing the horoscope. Lalkitab follows the diagram which is generally known as North Indian Horoscope Chart or Diagram. According to Lalkitab ;Horoscope represents a House with 8 Rooms (quarters); 4 Houses i.e. House no. 1,4,7 and 10 have 4 walls so they are in complete shape; Other 8 houses i.e. 2,3,5,6,8,9,11 and 12 have three walls each so they are incomplete; these houses are part of other houses or compliment each other to make 4 complete houses. Planets in the houses are to be considered as light emitting sources, they emit the light in the house in which they are posited; the houses have portions/doors from which this light is emitted outside and can be transferred to other houses. This is very essential and important point. Understanding this concept will help i understanding many rules related to grammar of lalkitabRegardsKu> lbir Bains Original message Priya Chunodkar< priyasuren24 >12 Jan 10 15:40:15RE: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Jilalkitab On Fri, 1/1/10, Ram Jaswalwrote: Ram Jaswal RE: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Jilalkitab: Friday, 1 January, 2010, 3:14 AM Namaste Kulbir jiMany thanks ¢¢‚¬¢€œ your explanation below re

garding Chandra Kundali is more clear and explicit from before ¢¢‚¬¦.Please continue with your lessons ¢¢‚¬¦.. Best wishes to everyone regarding New Year ¢¢‚¬¦¢¢‚¬¦. Jai Sita Ram Ram lalkitab@ s.com [ lalkitab@ s.com ] On Behalf Of kulbir30 December 2009 07:09lalkitab@ s.comRe: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev JiDear Ram Jaswal ji; the last Chandra kundali is correct as per lalkitab; basic principle is 1. the moon is to be placed in the house no. correspo> nding to the sign number in the ascendant as per natal horoscope.2. in this horoscope ascendant is libra so we place moon in house no.7 and other planets with respect to moon as per the natal horoscope.3. the house no.1 will always represent sign no.1 aries.please feel free to ask any querry any time;RegardsKulbir Bains. In lalkitab@ s.com, "Ram Jaswal"wrote:>> Namaste Kulbir ji> > From your notes below which Chandra Chart is correct ?> > Traditional Natal Chart> House no 1 ascendant sign Libra Tula, occupied by vacant.> House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn.> House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by Moon Rahu.> House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. = occupied by vacant.> House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by vacant.> House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by Mars.> House no 7 = sign / rashi no 1. = occupied by Sun, Mercury.> House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by Venus.> House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by Ketu.> > House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by vacant.> House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by vacant.> House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by Jupiter.> > > Lalkitab Natal chart:> > House no 1 = Aries. occupied by vacant.> House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn.> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Moon, Rahu.> H

ouse no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by vacant.> House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by vacant.> House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Mars.> House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Sun, Mercury.> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by Venus.> House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by Ketu.> House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by vacant.> House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by vacant.> House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Jupiter.> > Lalkitab Chandra Chart 1 (Moon moved to House 1 etc):> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Moon, Rahu (sign Gemini)> House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Cancer)> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡> ¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Leo)> House no 4 = Cancer = occupied by Mars (sign Virgo)> House no 5 = Leo = occupied by Sun, Mercury (sign Libra)> House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Venus (sign Scorpio)> House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Ketu (sign S

agittarius)> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Capricorn)> House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Aquarius)> House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Jupiter (sign Pisces)> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Aries)> House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Saturn (sign Taurus)> > OR Lalkitab Chandra Chart 2 (Moon moved to Traditional House 1 ie Libra Asc etc):> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Moon, Rahu (sign Libra)> House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Scorpio)> House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Sagittarius)> House no 4 = Cancer = occup> ied by Mars (sign Capricorn)> House no 5 = Leo = occupied by Sun, Mercury (sign Aquarius)> House no 6 Virg

o = occupied by Venus (sign Pisces)> House no 7 = Libra = occupied by Ketu (sign Aries)> House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Taurus)> House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Gemini)> House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Jupiter (sign Cancer)> House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant (sign Leo)> House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Saturn (sign Virgo)> > OR Lalkitab Chandra Chart 3 (per Chart 2 though using Aries Sign as House 1) :> > House no 1 = Aries = occupied by Ketu > House no 2 = Taurus = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant > House no 4 = Cancer = occupied by Jupiter > House no 5 = Leo = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by Saturn >> House no 7 = Libra occupied by Moon, Rahu > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¢¢¢€š¬…¢€œ vacant > House no 10 = Capricorn = occupied by Mars > House no 11 = Aquarius = occupied by Sun, Mercury > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by Venus> > Please let me know which Chandra Chart is correct per Lal Kitab?> > Many thanks ¢¢¢¢‚¬…¡¬¦.> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > > > lalkitab@ s.com [lalkitab@ s.com] On Behalf Of kulbir> 23 December 2009 11:43> lalkitab@ s.com> Fw: Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1./ Dev Ji> > > Dear Dev ji;> you are more than welcome to ask any questions; anytime;> > planet direct or retro don't have any difference in lalkitab.

it is only the placement that matters.> > you are following the right approach; one should not proceed to next step until and unless he is sure of the first step.> > > Regards> Kulbir Bains> > In lalkitab , Dev Sarkarwrote:> >> > Respected Kulbir ji,> > > > > > > > With the revised details (extremely sorry the correction mail was overlooked),> > > > > > > > // As corrected by S Leekha ji; kindly change the date of birth to> > 1051898 instead of 1151898. Rest everything remains same. // > > > > > > > > The planets placements are as per the lesson which you have given us but my request clarification on doubts, Sir ji.> > > > > > > > // Kulbir ji, I have also noticed> > that there are 3 planets in retro which you have

not shown any> > indication. Does it mean that whether direct or retro has no influence> > ? or it is just the planet placement in the various houses ?> > > > > > > > Sorry for asking too many questions but please allow me to clarify these doubts as it will haunt me with half baked knowledge. > > > > > > > > Eagerly waiting to hear from you and thanks for the clarification in advance. //> > > > Jai Maa Kaali,†¢€> ™¢¢¢€š¬…¡ > > > > Devbrato Sarkar> > > > "Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making the†¢€™¢¢¢€š¬…¡ MAN while he is making money".> > > > On Sun, 12/13/09, Dev Sarkarwrote:> > > > Dev Sarkar > > Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1.> > lalkitab

> > Sunday, December 13, 2009, 11:25 AM> > > > Respected Kulbir ji,> > > > With reference to the Lesson 1, part 1; erected the chart with the following particulars given in your mail .> > > > birth data 1151898 ; 05:43 pm; Jalandhar, Punjab> > > > Using Lahri Ayanamsa in the JHora s/w, I find a small difference in the 3 & 4th house as compared to what you have mentioned in your mail. Requesting you to correct me if I am wrong.> > > > Step no 1> > > > House no 1 ascendant sign Libra, occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn ®.> > > > House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = sign / rashi no> 10. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Moon.> > > > House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > >

House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = sign / rashi no 1. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Sun, Mercury ®.> > > > House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Jupiter ®.> > > > > > > > Step no.2> > > > > > > > Remove the Signs;> > > > House no 1 = vacant.> > > > House no 2 = occupied by Saturn®.> > > > House no 3 = occupied by Rahu.> > gt; > House no 4 = occupied by Moon.> > > > House no 5 = vacant.> > > > House no 6 => occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Sun, Mercury®.> > > > House no 8 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = occupied by Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Jupiter®.> > > > > > > > Step no 3.> > > > > > > > House no 1. is fixed as Sign no.1 Aries.> > > > House no 2. is fixed as Sign no. 2 Taurus.> > > > House no 3. is fixed as Sign no.3 Gemini .> > > > House no 4. is fixed as Sign no.4 Cancer.> > > > House n

o 5. is fixed as Sign no.5 Leo.> > > > House no 6. is fixed as Sign no.6 Virgo.> > > > House no 7. is fixed as Sign no.7 Libra.> > > > House no 8. is fixed as Sign no.8 Scorpio.> > > > House no 9. is fixed as Sign no.9 . Sagittarius.> > > > House no 10. is fixed as Sign no.10 Capricorn.> > > > House no 11. is fixed as Sign no.1 1 Aquarius.> > > > > House no 12. is fixed as Sign no.12. Pisces.> > > > > > > > Step no 4.> > > > > > > > Apply Step 2 and Ste3 to Horoscope in Step.1.> > > > > > > > House no 1 = Aries. occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn ®.> > > > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by Moon.> > > > House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.&gt

; > > > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = Libra = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Sun, Mercury ®.> > > > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Jupiter ®.> > > > Kulbir ji, I have also noticed that there> are 3 planets in retro which you have not shown any indication. Does it mean that whether direct or retro has no influence ? or it is just the planet placement in the various houses ?> > > > Sorry for asking too many questions but please

allow me to clarify these doubts as it will haunt me with half baked knowledge. > > > > Eagerly waiting to hear from you and thanks for the clarification in advance.> > > > Jai Maa Kaali,†¢€™¢¢¢€š¬…¡ > > > > Devbrato Sarkar> > > > "Wealth is not just about making the money BUT making the†¢€™¢¢¢€š¬…¡ MAN while he is making money".> > > > On Sat, 12/12/09, kulbirwrote:> > > > kulbir > > [lalkitab] Lalkitab Course; Lesson 1, part 1.> > lalkitab > > Saturday, December 12, 2009, 8:31 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > †¢€™¢¢¢€š¬…¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Janam Kundali according to lalit

ab.> > > > > > > > We will attempt to understand the method with the help of this exampl> e> > > > > > > > Step no.1.> > > > > > > > Erect a Kundali with the birth data 1151898 ; 05:43 pm; Jalandhar, Punjab .> > > > we get a horoscope with ascendant sign no.7.> > > > i.e.> > > > > > > > House no 1 ascendant sign libra tula , occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = sign / rashi no.8. = occupied by Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = sign / rashi no 9. = occupied by Moon Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = sign / rashi no 10. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 5 = sign / rashi no 11.= occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 6 = sign / rashi no 12. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = sign

/ rashi no 1. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Sun, Mercury.> > > > House no 8 = sign / rashi no 2 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = sign / rashi no 3. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = sign / rashi no 4. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" v> acant.> > > > House no 11 = sign / rashi no 5. = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = sign / rashi no 6. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Jupiter.> > > > > > > > Step no.2> > > > > > > > Remove the Signs;> > > > We get> > > > House no 1 = vacant.> > > > House no 2 = occupied by Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = occupied by Moon Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = vacant.> > > > House no 5 = vacant.> > > > House no 6 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Mars.> > > > House no 7 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Sun, Mercury.> > > > House no 8 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Jupiter.> > > > > > > > Step.3.> > > > > > > > House no 1. is fixed as Sign no.1 Aries.> > > > House no 2. is fixed as Sign no. 2 Taurus.> > > > House no 3. is fixed as Sign no.3 Gemini .> > > > H> ouse no 4. is fixed as Sign no.4 Cancer.> > > > House no 5. is fixed as Sign no.5 Leo.> > > > House no 6. is fixed as Sign no.6 Virgo.> > > > House no 7. is fi

xed as Sign no.7 Libra.> > > > House no 8. is fixed as Sign no.8 Scorpio.> > > > House no 9. is fixed as Sign no.9 . Sagittarius.> > > > House no 10. is fixed as Sign no.10 Capricorn.> > > > House no 11. is fixed as Sign no.1 1 Aquarius.> > > > House no 12. is fixed as Sign no.12. Pisces.> > > > > > > > Step no 4.> > > > > > > > Apply Step 2 and Ste3 to Horoscope in Step.1.> > > > > > > > House no 1 = Aries. occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 2 = Taurus . = occupied by Saturn.> > > > House no 3 = Gemini = occupied by Moon, Rahu.> > > > House no 4 = Cancer. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 5 = Leo.= occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 6 = Virgo = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Mars.>

> > > House no 7 = Libra = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Sun, Me> rcury.> > > > House no 8 = Scorpio = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Venus.> > > > House no 9 = Sagittarius = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Ketu.> > > > House no 10 = Capricorn. = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" vacant.> > > > House no 11 = Aquarius. = occupied by vacant.> > > > House no 12 = Pisces = occupied by †¢€™¢¢¢¢¢€š¬…¡¬" Jupiter.> > > > > > > > This is the Natal Horoscope; Janam Kundali according to Lalkitab.> > > > > > > > House is referred to as Khanna and sometimes Horoscope; Kundali is referred to as Tewa also.> > > > > > > > Before proceeding to part 2 i.e. How to cast Moon Horoscope, Chandra Kundali according to Lalkitab, Kindly try to make this more simple. Check through the page and point out if there are any mistakes. Please send in your Suggestions.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Nontext portions of > this message have been removed]> >> > > Checked by AVG www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.117/2583 Release 12/23/09 08:28:00> > > > [Nontext portions of this message have been removed]>Checked by AVG www.avg.comVersion: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2595 Release 12/31/09 08:52:00The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage..,.Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (9)Recent Activity: New Members 27Visit Your Group Start a New Topic Free Lal Kitab Software and Resources:http://www.astrosage.com/lalkitab/ MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living Switch to: TextOnly, Daily Digest ¢€¢ Un ¢€¢ Terms of Use .,.,>

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