Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Dear Friends, A very interesting case for study and comments. A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- madhyam nadi). Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair want to marry at any cost soon. Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. Regards, Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM For Kp consideration It is difficult to answer from birth Data alone. Question should have been posed with horary number from close relative of questioner, who may have genuine interest in girl or boy. My attempt by traditional method is pasted for just a glance.However it is appreciated If KP experts have a say otherwise. Question is from father of girl. Taken up on 10 May 2007 at 15:50:27 at 27N11 & 78E02. SNAPSHOT VIEW. Uday lagna is dwswabhav rasi in 16 th degree. It has no leaning toward char or fixed sign. Matter is difficult to settle. Lagna lord is in IX and VII Lord is in III. Jup as 7 th lord is Retrograde. Constellation of Moon Rises in lagna .Moon is placed in V th the house of love. Both have deep relationship already. There is exchange of Mars and Jupiter .In Navamsa Mars is debilated but Jup is with Sat and Mercury both. The planetary position speaks itself, that passion flow is to dominate .Only excuse is to take refuse in saying of prasna marg if There is deep love between prospective partners matching can be ignored only one should advice proper Muhurta for wedding to be successful and culminate into auspiciousness in life. ANALYSIS OF PRASNA CHART. Permisson from divine: Prasna Navamsa is Taurus . Natal lagan of Girl is Scorpio. It is opposite. So we can proceed. Intension Of posting. Full facts have not been given. Some vital information is missing. Lagna has aspect of Sat and Mars by grah dristi. Parents are in anger, in fact Answer should not be given. Question is posted on behalf of father by someone else, Therefore one can say , better is to let them decide issue of marriage socially instead of seeking answer to question posed by astrology. With best wishes. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - R Satish Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:41 PM Inter-community marriage Dear Friends,A very interesting case for study and comments.A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-madhyam nadi).Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair want to marry at any cost soon.Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.Regards,Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Dear satish,The boys 7th cusp RPare signified by sat,sun jup ketu mar ven matche girls RPs which are jup sun ven ketu .Boys sat is in sun and mar in ketu.in both charts 5th sub is in 10 (love in office) ending in marriage.Regards,sujata R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends, A very interesting case for study and comments. A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- madhyam nadi). Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair want to marry at any cost soon. Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. Regards, Satish Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Dear RCS, There is many a slip between the cup and the lip as they say. Hence an astrological query. This case is my friend's daughter,whom I know since childhood.All the practical advice necessary was given to the father,whom I had warned of love marriage,quite sometime ago.The matter was kept hidden,by the young people from ther parents, both sides. I have given the birth details of the two, for an unbiased KP answer,evaluation, in this forum. Que Sera Sera!! Regards, Satish Satish , <swami wrote: > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Hari OM > For Kp consideration It is difficult to answer from birth Data alone. > Question should have been posed with horary number from close relative of questioner, who may have genuine interest in girl or boy. > My attempt by traditional method is pasted for just a glance.However it is appreciated If KP experts have a say otherwise. > Question is from father of girl. Taken up on 10 May 2007 at 15:50:27 at 27N11 & 78E02. > > SNAPSHOT VIEW. > > Uday lagna is dwswabhav rasi in 16 th degree. It has no leaning toward char or fixed sign. Matter is difficult to settle. > > Lagna lord is in IX and VII Lord is in III. Jup as 7 th lord is Retrograde. Constellation of Moon Rises in lagna .Moon is placed in V th the house of love. Both have deep relationship already. > > There is exchange of Mars and Jupiter .In Navamsa Mars is debilated but Jup is with Sat and Mercury both. > > The planetary position speaks itself, that passion flow is to dominate .Only excuse is to take refuse in saying of prasna marg if There is deep love between prospective partners matching can be ignored only one should advice proper Muhurta for wedding to be successful and culminate into auspiciousness in life. > > ANALYSIS OF PRASNA CHART. > > Permisson from divine: Prasna Navamsa is Taurus . Natal lagan of Girl is Scorpio. It is opposite. > > So we can proceed. > > Intension Of posting. Full facts have not been given. Some vital information is missing. Lagna has aspect of Sat and Mars by grah dristi. Parents are in anger, in fact Answer should not be given. > > Question is posted on behalf of father by someone else, Therefore one can say , better is to let them decide issue of marriage socially instead of seeking answer to question posed by astrology. > > With best wishes. > OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > R.C.Srivastava > > ------------------------ > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > - > R Satish > > Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:41 PM > Inter-community marriage > > > > Dear Friends, > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > madhyam nadi). > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon. > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > Regards, > > Satish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM Dear R Satish,Nameste , Thanks for note.I should have answered here as per KP only . My posting on traditional basis was improper here, i admit. please understand, I did not mean to hurt your feelings. I stated what i read from planets but yes stating unpalatable part was not called for. .. I can still evualuate case By KP but I do not feel it is appropiate now FOR my friend Sujata dasa has already posted about the case. I accept I would have done the same as you did in this circuimstance.I appreciate your View point. To end Please permit me to think To error is human and to forgive is divine! OM TAT SAT. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - R Satish Friday, May 11, 2007 9:09 AM Re: Inter-community marriage Dear RCS,There is many a slip between the cup and the lip as they say. Hence an astrological query.This case is my friend's daughter,whom I know since childhood.All the practical advice necessary was given to the father,whom I had warned of love marriage,quite sometime ago.The matter was kept hidden,by the young people from ther parents, both sides.I have given the birth details of the two, for an unbiased KP answer,evaluation, in this forum.Que Sera Sera!!Regards,SatishSatish , <swami wrote:>> > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari OM> For Kp consideration It is difficult to answer from birth Data alone.> Question should have been posed with horary number from close relative of questioner, who may have genuine interest in girl or boy.> My attempt by traditional method is pasted for just a glance.However it is appreciated If KP experts have a say otherwise.> Question is from father of girl. Taken up on 10 May 2007 at 15:50:27 at 27N11 & 78E02.> > SNAPSHOT VIEW.> > Uday lagna is dwswabhav rasi in 16 th degree. It has no leaning toward char or fixed sign. Matter is difficult to settle.> > Lagna lord is in IX and VII Lord is in III. Jup as 7 th lord is Retrograde. Constellation of Moon Rises in lagna .Moon is placed in V th the house of love. Both have deep relationship already.> > There is exchange of Mars and Jupiter .In Navamsa Mars is debilated but Jup is with Sat and Mercury both.> > The planetary position speaks itself, that passion flow is to dominate .Only excuse is to take refuse in saying of prasna marg if There is deep love between prospective partners matching can be ignored only one should advice proper Muhurta for wedding to be successful and culminate into auspiciousness in life.> > ANALYSIS OF PRASNA CHART.> > Permisson from divine: Prasna Navamsa is Taurus . Natal lagan of Girl is Scorpio. It is opposite.> > So we can proceed.> > Intension Of posting. Full facts have not been given. Some vital information is missing. Lagna has aspect of Sat and Mars by grah dristi. Parents are in anger, in fact Answer should not be given.> > Question is posted on behalf of father by someone else, Therefore one can say , better is to let them decide issue of marriage socially instead of seeking answer to question posed by astrology.> > With best wishes.> > > > > > > > OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> > ------------------------ > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."> - > R Satish > > Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:41 PM> Inter-community marriage> > > > Dear Friends,> > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> madhyam nadi).> > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon.> > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > Regards,> > Satish> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Dear Satish, Please confirm Girl's bith details (date & time). Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. Boy 20 Mar,1980, 1403, Dadar, Mumbai. Girl 12 August, 1982, Vijayawada A.P Regards, tw , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear RCS, > > There is many a slip between the cup and the lip as they > say. Hence an astrological query. > > This case is my friend's daughter,whom I know since > childhood.All the practical advice necessary was given to the > father,whom I had warned of love marriage,quite sometime ago.The > matter was kept hidden,by the young people from ther parents, both > sides. > > I have given the birth details of the two, for an unbiased > KP answer,evaluation, in this forum. > > Que Sera Sera!! > > Regards, > > Satish > > Satish > > > , <swami@> wrote: > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari OM > > For Kp consideration It is difficult to answer from birth Data > alone. > > Question should have been posed with horary number from close > relative of questioner, who may have genuine interest in girl or boy. > > My attempt by traditional method is pasted for just a > glance.However it is appreciated If KP experts have a say otherwise. > > Question is from father of girl. Taken up on 10 May 2007 at > 15:50:27 at 27N11 & 78E02. > > > > SNAPSHOT VIEW. > > > > Uday lagna is dwswabhav rasi in 16 th degree. It has no leaning > toward char or fixed sign. Matter is difficult to settle. > > > > Lagna lord is in IX and VII Lord is in III. Jup as 7 th lord is > Retrograde. Constellation of Moon Rises in lagna .Moon is placed in V > th the house of love. Both have deep relationship already. > > > > There is exchange of Mars and Jupiter .In Navamsa Mars is debilated > but Jup is with Sat and Mercury both. > > > > The planetary position speaks itself, that passion flow is to > dominate .Only excuse is to take refuse in saying of prasna marg if > There is deep love between prospective partners matching can be > ignored only one should advice proper Muhurta for wedding to be > successful and culminate into auspiciousness in life. > > > > ANALYSIS OF PRASNA CHART. > > > > Permisson from divine: Prasna Navamsa is Taurus . Natal lagan of > Girl is Scorpio. It is opposite. > > > > So we can proceed. > > > > Intension Of posting. Full facts have not been given. Some vital > information is missing. Lagna has aspect of Sat and Mars by grah > dristi. Parents are in anger, in fact Answer should not be given. > > > > Question is posted on behalf of father by someone else, Therefore > one can say , better is to let them decide issue of marriage > socially instead of seeking answer to question posed by astrology. > > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------------------ > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > ------------------------ > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > - > > R Satish > > > > Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:41 PM > > Inter-community marriage > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > madhyam nadi). > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Dear Satish, I think the details below are okay since they give the same nakshatra Bharani, same 4 pada like the Boy. Girl's details: August 12,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. Regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > Please confirm Girl's bith details (date & time). > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > Boy 20 Mar,1980, 1403, Dadar, Mumbai. > > Girl 12 August, 1982, Vijayawada A.P > > > Regards, > > tw > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear RCS, > > > > There is many a slip between the cup and the lip as they > > say. Hence an astrological query. > > > > This case is my friend's daughter,whom I know since > > childhood.All the practical advice necessary was given to the > > father,whom I had warned of love marriage,quite sometime ago.The > > matter was kept hidden,by the young people from ther parents, both > > sides. > > > > I have given the birth details of the two, for an > unbiased > > KP answer,evaluation, in this forum. > > > > Que Sera Sera!! > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , <swami@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > > Hari OM > > > For Kp consideration It is difficult to answer from birth Data > > alone. > > > Question should have been posed with horary number from close > > relative of questioner, who may have genuine interest in girl or > boy. > > > My attempt by traditional method is pasted for just a > > glance.However it is appreciated If KP experts have a say otherwise. > > > Question is from father of girl. Taken up on 10 May 2007 at > > 15:50:27 at 27N11 & 78E02. > > > > > > SNAPSHOT VIEW. > > > > > > Uday lagna is dwswabhav rasi in 16 th degree. It has no leaning > > toward char or fixed sign. Matter is difficult to settle. > > > > > > Lagna lord is in IX and VII Lord is in III. Jup as 7 th lord is > > Retrograde. Constellation of Moon Rises in lagna .Moon is placed in > V > > th the house of love. Both have deep relationship already. > > > > > > There is exchange of Mars and Jupiter .In Navamsa Mars is > debilated > > but Jup is with Sat and Mercury both. > > > > > > The planetary position speaks itself, that passion flow is to > > dominate .Only excuse is to take refuse in saying of prasna marg if > > There is deep love between prospective partners matching can be > > ignored only one should advice proper Muhurta for wedding to be > > successful and culminate into auspiciousness in life. > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF PRASNA CHART. > > > > > > Permisson from divine: Prasna Navamsa is Taurus . Natal lagan of > > Girl is Scorpio. It is opposite. > > > > > > So we can proceed. > > > > > > Intension Of posting. Full facts have not been given. Some vital > > information is missing. Lagna has aspect of Sat and Mars by grah > > dristi. Parents are in anger, in fact Answer should not be given. > > > > > > Question is posted on behalf of father by someone else, Therefore > > one can say , better is to let them decide issue of marriage > > socially instead of seeking answer to question posed by astrology. > > > > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM TATSAT > > > ------------------------ > > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > > - > > > R Satish > > > > > > Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:41 PM > > > Inter-community marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > Mumbai. > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > from > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > nakshatra > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 HI A marriage outside community is seen. Although it is eka nakshatra matching can be done. Kuja dosha is matched. Rah / Ket afflictions also matched. However, I have not seen anyone saying " X " will marry " Y " . The indications go for outside community. Regards MK Viswanath , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > madhyam nadi). > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon. > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > Regards, > > Satish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Dear Sri RCS, Apologies not necessary at all,I respect your views. The distress is for the girl's father,who is finding it hard to reconcile.I have noted Ms Sujatha's observations too. Thank you for spending valuable time. Regards, Satish , <swami wrote: > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Hari OM > Dear R Satish,Nameste , > Thanks for note.I should have answered here as per KP only . > My posting on traditional basis was improper here, i admit. > please understand, I did not mean to hurt your feelings. > I stated what i read from planets but yes stating unpalatable part was not called for. > . > I can still evualuate case By KP but I do not feel it is appropiate now FOR my friend Sujata dasa > has already posted about the case. > I accept I would have done the same as you did in this circuimstance.I appreciate your View point. > To end Please permit me to think To error is human and to forgive is divine! > OM TAT SAT. > > > > > OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > R.C.Srivastava > ------------------------ > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > - > R Satish > > Friday, May 11, 2007 9:09 AM > Re: Inter-community marriage > > > > Dear RCS, > > There is many a slip between the cup and the lip as they > say. Hence an astrological query. > > This case is my friend's daughter,whom I know since > childhood.All the practical advice necessary was given to the > father,whom I had warned of love marriage,quite sometime ago.The > matter was kept hidden,by the young people from ther parents, both > sides. > > I have given the birth details of the two, for an unbiased > KP answer,evaluation, in this forum. > > Que Sera Sera!! > > Regards, > > Satish > > Satish > > , <swami@> wrote: > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari OM > > For Kp consideration It is difficult to answer from birth Data > alone. > > Question should have been posed with horary number from close > relative of questioner, who may have genuine interest in girl or boy. > > My attempt by traditional method is pasted for just a > glance.However it is appreciated If KP experts have a say otherwise. > > Question is from father of girl. Taken up on 10 May 2007 at > 15:50:27 at 27N11 & 78E02. > > > > SNAPSHOT VIEW. > > > > Uday lagna is dwswabhav rasi in 16 th degree. It has no leaning > toward char or fixed sign. Matter is difficult to settle. > > > > Lagna lord is in IX and VII Lord is in III. Jup as 7 th lord is > Retrograde. Constellation of Moon Rises in lagna .Moon is placed in V > th the house of love. Both have deep relationship already. > > > > There is exchange of Mars and Jupiter .In Navamsa Mars is debilated > but Jup is with Sat and Mercury both. > > > > The planetary position speaks itself, that passion flow is to > dominate .Only excuse is to take refuse in saying of prasna marg if > There is deep love between prospective partners matching can be > ignored only one should advice proper Muhurta for wedding to be > successful and culminate into auspiciousness in life. > > > > ANALYSIS OF PRASNA CHART. > > > > Permisson from divine: Prasna Navamsa is Taurus . Natal lagan of > Girl is Scorpio. It is opposite. > > > > So we can proceed. > > > > Intension Of posting. Full facts have not been given. Some vital > information is missing. Lagna has aspect of Sat and Mars by grah > dristi. Parents are in anger, in fact Answer should not be given. > > > > Question is posted on behalf of father by someone else, Therefore > one can say , better is to let them decide issue of marriage > socially instead of seeking answer to question posed by astrology. > > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OM TATSAT > > ------------------------ > > R.C.Srivastava > > > > ------------------------ > > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being > who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " > > - > > R Satish > > > > Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:41 PM > > Inter-community marriage > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > madhyam nadi). > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dear Satish ji, as per me: 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen. 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. regards Kanak BosmiaR Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Friends,A very interesting case for study and comments.A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-madhyam nadi).Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair want to marry at any cost soon.Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.Regards,Satish"A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 CHART DETAILS 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-09, Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. MATCHING RESULTS 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as shown below.) 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which JUP is the cuspal sublord. 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. 4.4. In 4-Step Method, PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. + No planet in JUP star E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role of star. 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p + No planet in MOO star * VEN in own star 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, Regarding No planet in MOO star: i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal sublord. PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep + No planet in MOO star * VEN in own star 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4, i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of step 1 and 2. 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of experience and expertise. 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord interlinks by Khullar). 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, getting dowry). 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as D-level significator related to the statement below. ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty, (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D- level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH- JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice. ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10- 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's 7 house. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Satish ji, > > as per me: > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen. > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > madhyam nadi). > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon. > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > Regards, > > Satish > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear Kanak, Perhaps we're talking about different charts of the Girl. Mine gives the same Bharani star with same Pada 4 like the Boy. Girls 7CSL RAH in star of RAH in Ge. 2CSL MER in star of KET which is in star of VEN in 8 l/o 7, 11, 12. 9CSL JUP in 11 l/o 2, 4 and no planet in star of JUP which is Sbl of 3, 9 houses. Regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Satish ji, > > as per me: > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen. > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > madhyam nadi). > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon. > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > Regards, > > Satish > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, No we are talking about same chart, In girl chart what you mention is right but what is my finding is when KPDP criteria no:10 is more then 51, even one chart( in this case only girls's chart show multi marriage) we can say GO AHEAD. in my work with 100 singla marriage data i found that even data is singla marriage most of chart show multipal marriage as per three rules, in all this chart KPDP criteria no: 10 is more then 51 and no multipal marriage happen. same way in multiple marriage data if not show multple marriage by rule but data is multiple marriage, in this case I found that KPDP crateria np:10 is bellow 51.this criteria No:10 is change as Dasa Bhukti change. so many time we see that after marriage couple live with very much happiness but after 2-3 year they take divorce.In this case chart are same but only criteria No:10 change, Todya's criteria No:10 show 58.33 ( as per KPAstro2.7) Girls Dasa change on Sep 2008 at that time:criteria No:10 show same 58.33 . boy's dasa change in 2011.at that time criteria No:10 show 50.00 but soon after in march 2011 it show again 58.33. like this i do not found any problem, so not to go in all detiles i write only there is no multiple marriage at all. To pridict multiple marriage by only rules we have with us is not suficiant,we have to look other aspect too befor pridict multiple marriage. I have check nearly 500 singal marriage data and most of case show multiple marriage, so I do not like to pridict only checking of this three rules and let me say still i am not happy with what i mention above, my work is continue going on this subject, becouse this is my favourite subject. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,Perhaps we're talking about different charts of the Girl. Mine gives the same Bharani star with same Pada 4 like the Boy. Girls 7CSL RAH in star of RAH in Ge. 2CSL MER in star of KET which is in star of VEN in 8 l/o 7, 11, 12. 9CSL JUP in 11 l/o 2, 4 and no planet in star of JUP which is Sbl of 3, 9 houses.Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Satish ji,> > as per me:> 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen.> 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> madhyam nadi).> > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon.> > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.>"A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear TW & Kanakbhai, Thank you both for your comments, but trust we are talking of the same birth details of the boy and girl. To repeat. BOY March 20,1980 1403hrs, Dadar Mumbai Girl August 12,1982, 1424hrs , Vijayawada. AP. Using Kuppu ganapathi's rules, which of the nos have a predominance,or Importance. Is there a priority or do we take the total percentage and say 65% is good, irrespective of 0% in some . Timing of the marriage would be also a good astrological exercise. Thank you all again for all the trouble. Regards, Satish -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > No we are talking about same chart, > > In girl chart what you mention is right but what is my finding is when KPDP criteria no:10 is more then 51, even one chart( in this case only girls's chart show multi marriage) we can say GO AHEAD. in my work with 100 singla marriage data i found that even data is singla marriage most of chart show multipal marriage as per three rules, in all this chart KPDP criteria no: 10 is more then 51 and no multipal marriage happen. same way in multiple marriage data if not show multple marriage by rule but data is multiple marriage, in this case I found that KPDP crateria np:10 is bellow 51.this criteria No:10 is change as Dasa Bhukti change. so many time we see that after marriage couple live with very much happiness but after 2-3 year they take divorce.In this case chart are same but only criteria No:10 change, Todya's criteria No:10 show 58.33 ( as per KPAstro2.7) Girls Dasa change on Sep 2008 at that time:criteria No:10 show same 58.33 . boy's dasa change in 2011.at that time > criteria No:10 show 50.00 but soon after in march 2011 it show again 58.33. like this i do not found any problem, so not to go in all detiles i write only there is no multiple marriage at all. > > To pridict multiple marriage by only rules we have with us is not suficiant,we have to look other aspect too befor pridict multiple marriage. I have check nearly 500 singal marriage data and most of case show multiple marriage, so I do not like to pridict only checking of this three rules and let me say still i am not happy with what i mention above, my work is continue going on this subject, becouse this is my favourite subject. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > Perhaps we're talking about different charts of the Girl. Mine gives > the same Bharani star with same Pada 4 like the Boy. Girls 7CSL RAH > in star of RAH in Ge. 2CSL MER in star of KET which is in star of > VEN in 8 l/o 7, 11, 12. 9CSL JUP in 11 l/o 2, 4 and no planet in > star of JUP which is Sbl of 3, 9 houses. > > Regards, > > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > as per me: > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > Santan yog is forseen. > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > madhyam nadi). > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear Kanak, Thanks to learn how KPDP criteria no:10 can overrule multimarriage rules. Thanks and regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > No we are talking about same chart, > > In girl chart what you mention is right but what is my finding is when KPDP criteria no:10 is more then 51, even one chart( in this case only girls's chart show multi marriage) we can say GO AHEAD. in my work with 100 singla marriage data i found that even data is singla marriage most of chart show multipal marriage as per three rules, in all this chart KPDP criteria no: 10 is more then 51 and no multipal marriage happen. same way in multiple marriage data if not show multple marriage by rule but data is multiple marriage, in this case I found that KPDP crateria np:10 is bellow 51.this criteria No:10 is change as Dasa Bhukti change. so many time we see that after marriage couple live with very much happiness but after 2-3 year they take divorce.In this case chart are same but only criteria No:10 change, Todya's criteria No:10 show 58.33 ( as per KPAstro2.7) Girls Dasa change on Sep 2008 at that time:criteria No:10 show same 58.33 . boy's dasa change in 2011.at that time > criteria No:10 show 50.00 but soon after in march 2011 it show again 58.33. like this i do not found any problem, so not to go in all detiles i write only there is no multiple marriage at all. > > To pridict multiple marriage by only rules we have with us is not suficiant,we have to look other aspect too befor pridict multiple marriage. I have check nearly 500 singal marriage data and most of case show multiple marriage, so I do not like to pridict only checking of this three rules and let me say still i am not happy with what i mention above, my work is continue going on this subject, becouse this is my favourite subject. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Kanak, > > Perhaps we're talking about different charts of the Girl. Mine gives > the same Bharani star with same Pada 4 like the Boy. Girls 7CSL RAH > in star of RAH in Ge. 2CSL MER in star of KET which is in star of > VEN in 8 l/o 7, 11, 12. 9CSL JUP in 11 l/o 2, 4 and no planet in > star of JUP which is Sbl of 3, 9 houses. > > Regards, > > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > as per me: > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > Santan yog is forseen. > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > madhyam nadi). > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule. ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: CHART DETAILS1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-09, Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.MATCHING RESULTS3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as shown below.)4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which JUP is the cuspal sublord. 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. 4.4. In 4-Step Method,PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. + No planet in JUP star E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role of star.5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p+ No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,Regarding No planet in MOO star:i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal sublord. PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep + No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of step 1 and 2.6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of experience and expertise.6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord interlinks by Khullar).6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, getting dowry).6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as D-level significator related to the statement below.¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH-JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10-2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's 7 house. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Satish ji,> > as per me:> 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen.> 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> madhyam nadi).> > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon.> > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.>"A person should not be too honest. 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and Kanakbhai for inputs. There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According to Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is being followed in this case. I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed towards this issue. Regards, Satish , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule. > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty, > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: CHART DETAILS > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22- 09, > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > MATCHING RESULTS > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as > shown below.) > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > 9. > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > + No planet in JUP star > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role > of star. > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > + No planet in MOO star > * VEN in own star > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal > sublord. > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > + No planet in MOO star > * VEN in own star > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4, > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of > step 1 and 2. > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > experience and expertise. > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > interlinks by Khullar). > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > getting dowry). > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty, > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D- > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of > sublord of planets or cusps. > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH- > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice. > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10- > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's > 7 house. > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > as per me: > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > Santan yog is forseen. > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > madhyam nadi). > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dear kanak,I am sharing my expierieces with you so that you become a good astrologer,so that you come to my help also.Sunil, alcoholic,mentioned,peviously,on'freedom from addictions' mail has dob of 15-9-53 at nairobi at 10=45 am. He was dismissed from army in aug 77 during vn-ven-sat period.sat is sub of 5th.No planats in 5th lord or house.sat is sublord.2 children born on 21-5-81 and 6-3-84 which involve sat as 5th sub.I hope you will find it educative.I am learning alot from this site.regards.sujataKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule. ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 > wrote: CHART DETAILS1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-09, Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.MATCHING RESULTS3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as shown below.)4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which JUP is the cuspal sublord. 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. 4.4. In 4-Step Method,PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. + No planet in JUP star E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role of star.5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p+ No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,Regarding No planet in MOO star:i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal sublord. PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep + No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of step 1 and 2.6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of experience and expertise.6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord interlinks by Khullar).6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, getting dowry).6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as D-level significator related to the statement below.¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH-JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10-2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's 7 house. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Satish ji,> > as per me:> 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen.> 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> madhyam nadi).> > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon.> > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.>"A person should not be too honest. 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Sujata ji, I check horoscope you have mention. 1) I found that 5th SL is KET, SAT is 6th SL. 2)Rule say's that "The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D," But in this case Moon and Ket are in Sat star. so they come in C, also Sat is second cusp sign lord and RAH is in 2nd cusp. so i think Rule mention by Tin Win ji is not applly in this case. Please mentionAsc and Moon value what you found? I found Asc 10 SC 12.04 , MOON: 16 SC 26.50 regards Kanak Bosmiasujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear kanak,I am sharing my expierieces with you so that you become a good astrologer,so that you come to my help also.Sunil, alcoholic,mentioned,peviously,on'freedom from addictions' mail has dob of 15-9-53 at nairobi at 10=45 am. He was dismissed from army in aug 77 during vn-ven-sat period.sat is sub of 5th.No planats in 5th lord or house.sat is sublord.2 children born on 21-5-81 and 6-3-84 which involve sat as 5th sub.I hope you will find it educative.I am learning alot from this site.regards.sujataKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule. ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 > wrote: CHART DETAILS1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-09, Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.MATCHING RESULTS3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as shown below.)4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which JUP is the cuspal sublord. 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. 4.4. In 4-Step Method,PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. + No planet in JUP star E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role of star.5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p+ No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,Regarding No planet in MOO star:i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal sublord. PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep + No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of step 1 and 2.6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of experience and expertise.6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord interlinks by Khullar).6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, getting dowry).6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as D-level significator related to the statement below.¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH-JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10-2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's 7 house. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Satish ji,> > as per me:> 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen.> 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> madhyam nadi).> > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon.> > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> "A person should not be too honest. 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Kanak, As already mentioned, this rule is not applied in the following examples: ---- only D-level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. If any example applying this example is found in KP Readers or KP litrature, please let me know. Thanks and regards, tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule. > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty, > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: CHART DETAILS > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22- 09, > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > MATCHING RESULTS > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as > shown below.) > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > 9. > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > + No planet in JUP star > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role > of star. > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > + No planet in MOO star > * VEN in own star > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal > sublord. > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > + No planet in MOO star > * VEN in own star > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4, > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of > step 1 and 2. > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > experience and expertise. > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > interlinks by Khullar). > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > getting dowry). > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty, > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D- > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of > sublord of planets or cusps. > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH- > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice. > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10- > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's > 7 house. > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > as per me: > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > Santan yog is forseen. > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > madhyam nadi). > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > " A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first. " > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Kanak, This rule is from Msg#12760. Regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > As already mentioned, this rule is not applied in the following > examples: > > > ---- only D-level significator planet is found taken in example > charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and > KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. > > If any example applying this example is found in KP Readers or KP > litrature, please let me know. > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this > rule. > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > empty, > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > the > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > BLANK), > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > Lord > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22- > 09, > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > 16N31, > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as > > shown below.) > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > see > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > which > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > 9. > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > KP > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role > > of star. > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > * VEN in own star > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > cuspal > > sublord. > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > * VEN in own star > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4, > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > and > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of > > step 1 and 2. > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > sublord > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > signification > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > death, > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > experience and expertise. > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > by > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > getting dowry). > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > separation > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > at > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > as > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > empty, > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > the > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > BLANK), > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > Lord > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > house > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator > of > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D- > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > done > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > 7, > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH- > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of > 7, > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice. > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > (Likelihood > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14- 10- > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > possible > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > Girl's > > 7 house. > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > as per me: > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > Mumbai. > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > from > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, In this situation we take only that planet sub lord of which cusp. this rule I never consider, and so i think it is must to look in more detailes about this rule, i will do when i am free from my recent Gochar work. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,As already mentioned, this rule is not applied in the following examples:---- only D-level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. If any example applying this example is found in KP Readers or KP litrature, please let me know.Thanks and regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule.> > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,> (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: CHART DETAILS> > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-09, > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > MATCHING RESULTS> > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as > shown below.)> > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > 9. > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > + No planet in JUP star > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role > of star.> > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > + No planet in MOO star> * VEN in own star > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal > sublord. > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > + No planet in MOO star> * VEN in own star > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of > step 1 and 2.> > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > experience and expertise.> > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > interlinks by Khullar).> > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > getting dowry).> > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,> (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of > sublord of planets or cusps. > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH-> JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10-> 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's > 7 house.> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Satish ji,> > > > as per me:> > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > Santan yog is forseen.> > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > Mumbai. > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > madhyam nadi).> > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > Regards,> > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> Try the free Mail Beta.>"A person should not be too honest. 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear kanakji,The asc. is .215deg.42mts.The 5th house is 333deg,41mts.owned by jup.Sublord of 5 is sat.No planet in 5 or jup star.So, no significator at a,b,c.Moon's value is 226-19.I utilise the software on astrosage which is quite accurate.Aug 80-- I made a mistake.He resigned from bank during ve.-ve-sat period..regardssujataKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Sujata ji, I check horoscope you have mention. 1) I found that 5th SL is KET, SAT is 6th SL. 2)Rule say's that "The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D," But in this case Moon and Ket are in Sat star. so they come in C, also Sat is second cusp sign lord and RAH is in 2nd cusp. so i think Rule mention by Tin Win ji is not applly in this case. Please mentionAsc and Moon value what you found? I found Asc 10 SC 12.04 , MOON: 16 SC 26.50 regards Kanak Bosmiasujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear kanak,I am sharing my expierieces with you so that you become a good astrologer,so that you come to my help also.Sunil, alcoholic,mentioned,peviously,on'freedom from addictions' mail has dob of 15-9-53 at nairobi at 10=45 am. He was dismissed from army in aug 77 during vn-ven-sat period.sat is sub of 5th.No planats in 5th lord or house.sat is sublord.2 children born on 21-5-81 and 6-3-84 which involve sat as 5th sub.I hope you will find it educative.I am learning alot from this site.regards.sujataKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Tin Win ji, Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this rule. ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and unexpected signficatore seen. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 > wrote: CHART DETAILS1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-09, Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> 16N31, 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.MATCHING RESULTS3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as shown below.)4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl see Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for which JUP is the cuspal sublord. 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. 4.4. In 4-Step Method,PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. + No planet in JUP star E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per KP ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role of star.5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p+ No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,Regarding No planet in MOO star:i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is cuspal sublord. PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep + No planet in MOO star* VEN in own star 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 and 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of step 1 and 2.6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that sublord signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord signification of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or death, marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of experience and expertise.6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification by dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord interlinks by Khullar).6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, getting dowry).6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and separation after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger at the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house as D-level significator related to the statement below.¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is empty,(nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in the normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C BLANK), then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The Lord of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 house since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator of 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of sublord of planets or cusps. 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be done by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, 7, 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH-JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of 7, 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching (Likelihood of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10-2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is possible during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects Girl's 7 house. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Satish ji,> > as per me:> 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as Santan yog is forseen.> 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in Mumbai. > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition from > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> madhyam nadi).> > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > want to marry at any cost soon.> > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> "A person should not be too honest. 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Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Satish, Kanak, 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of parents due to some negative significators. 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. 10 in KP Matching. 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child). 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners and modernized Indian new generation? Thanks and regards, tw , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends, > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > Kanakbhai for inputs. > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According to > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > being followed in this case. > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions. > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed towards > this issue. > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win ji, > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this > rule. > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > empty, > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > the > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > BLANK), > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > Lord > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and > unexpected signficatore seen. > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22- > 09, > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > 16N31, > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d. > > > > MATCHING RESULTS > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9. > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as > > shown below.) > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > see > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > which > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > 9. > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method, > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10 > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9) > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > KP > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role > > of star. > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.) > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star. > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 ) > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > * VEN in own star > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star. > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2, > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star: > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses. > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > cuspal > > sublord. > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9) > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > + No planet in MOO star > > * VEN in own star > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008). > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4, > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2. > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > and > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of > > step 1 and 2. > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > sublord > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > signification > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > death, > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > experience and expertise. > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > by > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > interlinks by Khullar). > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > getting dowry). > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > separation > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > at > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > as > > D-level significator related to the statement below. > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > empty, > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > the > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > BLANK), > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > Lord > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨ > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > house > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator > of > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D- > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > done > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > 7, > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH- > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007). > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of > 7, > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice. > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > (Likelihood > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14- 10- > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > possible > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > Girl's > > 7 house. > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish ji, > > > > > > as per me: > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > Santan yog is forseen. > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart. > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage. > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments. > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > Mumbai. > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > from > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately. > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha- > > > madhyam nadi). > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > want to marry at any cost soon. > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar. > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dear Tin Win ji, Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail. 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin only, other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya Nadi have No dosha. 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry. 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika) 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra. what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system. for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have no child. BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as per kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i have to check all again) regards Kanak Bosmia tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Satish, Kanak,1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of parents due to some negative significators.2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. 10 in KP Matching.3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would be 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases of Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are around 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for Diana and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a child).4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, passion, and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for Westerners and modernized Indian new generation?Thanks and regards,tw , "R Satish" <rsatish1942 wrote:>> > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According to > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection( > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach is > being followed in this case.> > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed towards > this issue.> > Regards,> > Satish> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in this > rule.> > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does > not > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > empty,> > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > the > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > BLANK), > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > Lord > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you check > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this subject. it > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found failore and > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-22-> 09, > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-26d> > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > 16N31, > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, Moon > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching Percentage is > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) Criterion > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies 2, 7 as > > shown below.)> > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star (Pl > see > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses for > which > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER in 8 > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, > > 9. > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 are > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are also > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not signified > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as per > KP > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the role > > of star.> > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th cuspal > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in 2 l/o > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. RAH's > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > + No planet in MOO star> > * VEN in own star > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > cuspal > > sublord. > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > * VEN in own star > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in 4.4,> > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a decider for > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also considered as > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in step 3 > and > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to signification of > > step 1 and 2.> > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > sublord > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in planet and > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > signification > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 signification by > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these significations > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life or > death, > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test of > > experience and expertise.> > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 signification > by > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable Cuspal > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage by > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 (love > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial life, > > getting dowry).> > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > separation > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from danger > at > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the solely > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st house > as > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house does not > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house is > empty,> > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its stars. > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator in > the > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the practice, > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > BLANK), > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub as D. > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of the > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, since the > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. The > Lord > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of 6 > house > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take as a > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as significator > of > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, only D-> > level significator planet is found taken in example charts in KP > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP Readers > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further consideration of > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can be > done > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs signifying 2, > 7, > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage is RAH-> > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary Significator of > 7, > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, a > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate choice.> > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th cuspal > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET indicate > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > (Likelihood > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to 14-10-> > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > possible > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > Girl's > > 7 house.> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > as per me:> > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for marriage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins and > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl in > > Mumbai. > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is opposition > from > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same nakshatra > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying separately.> > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > Try the free Mail Beta.> >>"A person should not be too honest. 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